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Frazier thinks Harvin will be back

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As the Vikings embark on their 2013 offseason a week later than expected but four weeks sooner than hoped, they’ll need to figure out whether receiver Percy Harvin will be part of the team next season.

Coach Leslie Frazier believes Harvin will be back.

“I don’t see any reason why Percy wouldn’t be back with us,” Frazier said, via Sid Hartman of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.  “He should be.”

We’d expect Frazier to say nothing else.  Declaring an intention to trade Harvin isn’t the best way to build a trade market; any team that is trying to get him needs to believe that Harvin staying put remains a viable option.

The best piece of objective evidence regarding the team’s plans will come from whether they try to extend Harvin’s deal.  He entered the 2012 season thinking that it would be a contract year, and he was considered by some to be an MVP candidate before injuring his ankle in Seattle.

With one season remaining on his rookie deal, Harvin’s short-term future in Minnesota will secured only by a long-term extension.

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  1. shaggytoodle says: Jan 7, 2013 1:29 PM

    Maybe in attempt to get more offensive weapons, they could let Joe Webb play WR, cuz its pretty clear he isn’t a reasonable option at QB.

  2. gochargersgo says: Jan 7, 2013 1:32 PM

    They need an overhaul at WR. Their #1 would be a #3 or #4 on most other teams.

  3. steelernationisthepinnacleofexistenceyouarenothing says: Jan 7, 2013 1:41 PM

    Frazier will be looking for a new job at this time next year.

  4. whatjusthapped says: Jan 7, 2013 1:42 PM

    I think Harvin wants to play for big money and with Mr. Noodle Arm at QB, he can’t pile up the yardage stats when your QB can’t throw more than 15 yards downfield.

    Harvin must look across the locker room at Peterson and say to himself, “I’m not going to waste the prime years of my career playing for a franchise that is so dumb that they think Ponder is a real NFL QB”

    He’s outta there the first chance he gets.

  5. ill42 says: Jan 7, 2013 1:44 PM

    Vikes better pony up a new contract or I’ll think they’ll be looking at a long and nasty holdout

  6. lessfrazier says: Jan 7, 2013 1:44 PM

    shaggytoodle says:Jan 7, 2013 1:29 PM

    Maybe in attempt to get more offensive weapons, they could let Joe Webb play WR, cuz its pretty clear he isn’t a reasonable option at QB.

    *****

    Unfortunately, he catches the ball about as well as he throws it.

    Running back/option quarterback is about it for Joe.

  7. fballguy says: Jan 7, 2013 1:47 PM

    He’d look good in Ram horns.

  8. RedRuffensor says: Jan 7, 2013 1:47 PM

    He’s an outstanding talent who gives it his all on the playing field. So, the Vikings have to re-sign him, even if he’s a little high maintenance.

  9. titogetmesometissue says: Jan 7, 2013 1:48 PM

    Why wouldn’t he be back? I’m sure he saw the game, who wouldn’t want to play with a team that has Joe Webb as backup QB?

  10. blowpackblow says: Jan 7, 2013 1:49 PM

    I would go get a decent QB. Webb is not the answer and Ponder is about as tough as a wet paper bag. I still can’t believe he didn’t even suit up for the biggest game of his life. Even RGIII was battling for his team with a possible ACL tear. I hope Ponder’s little owie is ok.

  11. mcmeen0576 says: Jan 7, 2013 1:50 PM

    This made me think of the geico commercial about Pigs flying….

  12. e5again says: Jan 7, 2013 1:50 PM

    Just because you can’t play QB, it doesn’t mean you’re going to make a good receiver.

  13. justintuckrule says: Jan 7, 2013 1:55 PM

    too injury prone to be given an extension. If a dude like Victor Cruz with his numbers, less salary and better durability is made to play out his final year, Harvin better think again if he’s hoping for an extension.

  14. coolzog says: Jan 7, 2013 1:57 PM

    If this year was his “contract year”, I’d be happy to extend Harvin on the basis of those numbers, or the average of his seasons.

    The fact of the matter is: the guy can’t stay healthy, and hasn’t put together an entire season worthy of elite WR pay (which I assume is what he is looking for). He had a good season in 2011-2012, but still couldn’t get more than 1000 yards.

    When he’s on the field, he’s one of the Viking’s best (and few) weapons. That being said, if someone gives up a first rounder for him, I wouldn’t be that sad to see him leave.

  15. tjacks7 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:00 PM

    Pay the man. Then pay another man who can line up across from him. Then pay another man that’s capable of throwing them the ball. I should be a GM.

  16. percybowl says: Jan 7, 2013 2:02 PM

    Boy I love me some Percy. He’s got to be frustrated though. Imagine the #’s if he had even an average quaterback and a non-idiotic coordinator. Don’t think he gets, Vikes passing game is him.

  17. jessethegreat says: Jan 7, 2013 2:02 PM

    Vikes would be better served finding a receiver with his head on straight. Harvin needs to go to a team with a dictator as a coach who can keep him under wraps. I think frazier is a fine coach but hes too much of a players coach to get the most out of harvins abilities. Dudes got great physical ability but he needs someone to crack the whip. If harvin lands with that kind of coach, he might start to live up to his true potential like Moss did with Belichick his first year in new England. Also, Tom Brady would help

  18. purpleguy says: Jan 7, 2013 2:03 PM

    His beef can’t be about: (1) offensive useage or scheme since he was up there in all catagories and getting MVP consideration before he was hurt, or (2) playing for a lousy team, since the Vikes made the playoffs. So either it’s about money or he’s not thinking rationally, neither of which I’d be too surprised to hear is the reason. The Vikes can keep him this contract year and franchise him if they want to keep him, so retention isn’t the issue.

  19. fwippel says: Jan 7, 2013 2:04 PM

    The Vikings need to re-up Harvin, unless he’s got a bad attitude. On the field, Harvin has been money, and this injury is the first of his career that has been significant. He’s also the best KO return man the franchise has ever had.

    That said, if Harvin does not want to come back, the Vikings might as well trade him now and get something for him. He’s worth a top-12 first round draft pick easy. The team needs to overhaul it’s WR group anyway, and either an established go-to WR or a high draft pick would at least soften the blow of losing him.

  20. iamthefootballjerk says: Jan 7, 2013 2:06 PM

    How is Webb a backup QB in the NFL? You’re telling there are not 64 people on this planet to play QB better than that? Sad.

  21. bobby2478 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:06 PM

    I agree with the argument about Victor Cruz having to play out his contract before getting an extension. As far as why the Vikes would be wise to NOT offer Harvin a long term deal heavy on guarantees has to deal with Harvin’s obvious mental instability. The guy is a great player who gives it his all on every play, that’s never been the question. Mentally however he has issues. He’s liable to fly off the handle for little to no reason at all, and he’ll get into it with anyone. It should be concerning that he gets into it with one of the most calm and level headed coaches in Frazier. Harvin could disrupt the locker room and make lots of problems for a team that wants peace and quiet. He’s a blowup waiting to happen. Any deal has to be heavy on incentives, with options to unload him at certain points along the way with little to no long term cap hit of doing so (less guaranteed money unless he’s on the roster past a certain point every year).

  22. robert831 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:07 PM

    My Vikings need to resign him or take no less than a 1st round pick \ established #1 receiver in return. The Vikings need Harvin back is the reality. They also need to play Joe Webb at receiver; he is not accurate enough to play QB, but the guy could be a playmaker. Drafting several WRs, resigning Simpson for cheap (maybe he will get healthy), and cutting Jenkins & Aromashodu already would be great. We need to have enough young talented guys to battle at the postion in training camp. Harvin, Simpson, Wright, Webb, Burton, Childs(if he can walk), and several rookies would be a good start.

  23. acdc84 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:08 PM

    I’m not looking forward to seeing Greg Jennings in that awful purple uniform next year…

  24. jimmysee says: Jan 7, 2013 2:11 PM

    Percy Harvin is a talent — but way too fragile to be given a long term deal unless it is heavily heavily (did I say “heavily” enough?) loaded with perf0rmance incentives.

  25. granadafan says: Jan 7, 2013 2:12 PM

    The guy is too emotional to be relied on. He coincidentally suffers “migraines” when things don’t go well or wants to quit the team because of an argument with a teammate. He was raised to be a diva with everything handed to him, especially at Florida when he assaulted a coach and got away with it by Urban Meyer.

  26. hurrayforyogapants says: Jan 7, 2013 2:13 PM

    He’ll be back to pick up his last paycheck, that’s all. Besides, we don’t need him. Got jarius and soon well have Greg Jennings!!!!

  27. macneil4025 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:16 PM

    The Vikings hold all the cards, he is under contract for the coming season, they could franchise him the next if they wanted too. Unless the Vikes get some crazy offer, AKA Larry Fitzgerald plus a 2nd round pick, he isn’t going anywhere. Ask Mike Wallace and D Jackson how easy it is too force a trade in the NFL, it never happens!! Sorry Percy, your going to wear Purple next year whether you like it or not!!

  28. mavajo says: Jan 7, 2013 2:19 PM

    Hey, you guys remember eight days ago, when the Vikings were jumping around like a bunch of jackasses in the Metrodome and carrying Peterson off the field, and then all their obnoxious fans were on every message board in the country talking about how Peterson was going to rush for 250 yards in Lambeau?

    Yeah, those were good times. That’s what teams like the Vikings have to do — celebrate regular season wins like it was the Super Bowl.

  29. matthewcarlson1 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:21 PM

    Do we even want a player who quit on his team? He’s a tremendous talent but a huge diva. He gets paid extremely well for what he does: play 6 out of 16 games.

  30. louisianafootballfan says: Jan 7, 2013 2:26 PM

    If he really wants another deal he should just feign retirement and move to a farm somewhere. The Vikings will be throwing cash at him then.

  31. Ponder This says: Jan 7, 2013 2:32 PM

    He’ll be back unless he’s a locker room cancer. Every team has to put up with difficult personalities if they have talent. If his presence doesn’t hurt the team, they’ll try to resign him.

  32. Ponder This says: Jan 7, 2013 2:34 PM

    whatjusthapped says:Jan 7, 2013 1:42 PM

    I think Harvin wants to play for big money and with Mr. Noodle Arm at QB, he can’t pile up the yardage stats when your QB can’t throw more than 15 yards downfield.

    Harvin must look across the locker room at Peterson and say to himself, “I’m not going to waste the prime years of my career playing for a franchise that is so dumb that they think Ponder is a real NFL QB”
    _______

    Isn’t Mr. Noodle Arm the guy who carved your defense to shreds last week? Just be thankful he couldn’t lift his noodle arm to his chest this week.

  33. packman331 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:36 PM

    Harvin scares me to death every time he touches the ball– which is not as often as he could.
    Randall Cobb is Harvin 2.0– maybe not as gifted, but with more reliability

  34. conormacleod says: Jan 7, 2013 2:36 PM

    jimmysee says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:11 PM
    Percy Harvin is a talent — but way too fragile to be given a long term deal
    ————————————————
    Fragile…except for the fact that he’s averaged 15 games played per season before for this season. And, what do you want to do with a guy that is one of the best return guys in the league, and missed 7 games but still lead your team in yards?

    Just like when somebody stated Ponder is too fragile. Except for the fact that he played every game this season before the playoffs.

    You know, there is a little something called the internet to actually look up facts before posting nonsense.

  35. technovike says: Jan 7, 2013 2:36 PM

    After saturday, it makes even more sense to go after Alex Smith, Jason Campbell or any other mediocre veteran QB, if ponder can beat out the veteran they bring in fine, he gets another chance. but if he doesnt he is the backup qb.

    id see what bethel-thompson has or otherwise spend a low draft pick on another hope.

    unfortunately for webb, the one game he played this year probably played himself out of the league. and he cannot play WR, they tried that, he cant catch or run a route.

    he looked uncomfortable as a pocket passer. most of the plays seemed to be shot gun passes, taking Felton (our 1 of 4 pro bowlers) out of the game. horrible coaching decision. terribly play calling and atrocious execution.

  36. elliottcovert says: Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM

    My guess is it might not be easy to trade him. If all of these issues had never gotten public attention, he might have gotten a trade, but now I think it’s more unlikley.

    Teams generally don’t like to give huffy, uncooperative players trades because it will send a message to other players in the lockerroom that if they are unhappy for any reason, all they need to do in order to get a trade is to make themselves into a headache for the team and management will trade them. Giving into Harvin would just seem to encourage bad behavior, so maybe a trade is less likley than it seems unless they get an offer so rich that they just can’t pass it up (a la Carson Palmer last year).

  37. conormacleod says: Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM

    matthewcarlson1 says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:21 PM
    Do we even want a player who quit on his team? He’s a tremendous talent but a huge diva. He gets paid extremely well for what he does: play 6 out of 16 games.
    —————————————————
    More lies. Which part was Harvin quitting? Was it the tendon in his ankle that was injured or his emergency appendectomy this season? Also, feel free to just lie about the number of games played if you think it will make your argument look real. And, lord knows there isn’t any other “divas” out there playing. You want to know how people become “divas”? By being one of the best at what they do. I’ll take a “diva” Harvin over 99% of the WR’s in the NFL today.

  38. technovike says: Jan 7, 2013 2:42 PM

    my point being from the above post that If Ponder can beat out a veteran QB maybe Harvin will be more on board with his QB situation. not every nfl team is blessed with a pro bowl caliber quarterback.

    I’d give him a 3 year deal of some sort at least to keep him happy for another year, and see how that deal plays out with his attitude of late.

  39. shaggytoodle says: Jan 7, 2013 2:42 PM

    e5again says: Jan 7, 2013 1:50 PM

    Just because you can’t play QB, it doesn’t mean you’re going to make a good receiver.
    _____________

    Then they need to cut him now, because he is of no use to the Vikings.

  40. albertmn says: Jan 7, 2013 2:48 PM

    If Harvin doesn’t return it will be due to off field issues. He asked for a trade in the offseason, but then said he hadn’t asked for one. He reportedly didn’t show up for some practices while hurt. Even if hurt, players are usually expected to show up and watch, unless getting treatment. To those that site Ponder as the issue, Harvin was among the leaders, if not leading the league, in receiving when he got hurt.

    As Joe Webb, they tried him at WR, and it didn’t work. Personally, I think Webb’s long term most useful position would be as a return man, special teamer, and maybe a few gadget plays as a RB or WR, but not a full time QB or WR.

  41. moneey31 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:48 PM

    How is Percy a diva? He is clearly the best player on the team not named Adrian Peterson. He would be a top 10 wide receiver if he only had a quarterback to get him the ball, not to mention he may be the best kick returner in the NFL. The kid deserves a big time contract extension or they need to trade him. You put him anywhere with a descent quarterback and he is a 1,000 yard receiver annually. He has had migraines going back to Landstown High School, so it’s not like those are an excuse. Hell, we would love for him to take Miles Austin place in Dallas

  42. wludford says: Jan 7, 2013 2:57 PM

    The Vikings need to get Percy Harvin on-board. By that I mean two things:

    1) Get him the right attitude and be a team player.

    2) Give him a contract extension.

    At the end of the day, Harvin will be the featured receiver and kick-returner for the Vikings, will likely get the most receptions, and will be playing for a playoff team with a bright future. Nothing more he can ask for.

    I think Frazier and others with the Vikings organization will be able to hit those points home with Harvin and get him on-board.

  43. wludford says: Jan 7, 2013 2:59 PM

    packman331 says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:36 PM
    Harvin scares me to death every time he touches the ball– which is not as often as he could.
    Randall Cobb is Harvin 2.0– maybe not as gifted, but with more reliability

    —-

    How many games has Cobb missed? Isn’t he still not 100%?

  44. theqmaster says: Jan 7, 2013 3:01 PM

    D-I-V-A!

  45. fwippel says: Jan 7, 2013 3:04 PM

    All the Joe Webb detractors need to calm down. Webb was the Vikings best QB in 2011, minute for minute. Yeah, he stank on Saturday. He played like a QB who hadn’t thrown a pass all season, and no, he is not the Viking QB of the future.

    That said, the team could use his talent on the field at WR, where he’s got the size and 4.4 speed to be a difference-maker. It took Ponder the better part of two seasons to start playing like a legit NFL quarterback, so lighten the heck up.

    After 3-13 season, to see this season finish with 10 wins, including 4 in a row, only the most ingrained pessimist Viking fan could be ticked off about the season overall.

  46. deeppurple85 says: Jan 7, 2013 3:15 PM

    Trade this kid while he’s still worth something great athlete terrible attitude don’t need that get all the picks u can for him we proved we can win without him time for Percy to move on

  47. wludford says: Jan 7, 2013 3:17 PM

    I should also add that for Percy Harvin, he needs to recognize that the Vikings:

    1) Had the faith in him to draft him despite his college incidents;
    2) Worked with him through his migraine and other injuries;
    3) Featured him and made him their leading receiver and kick-returner;

    If he is still willing to turn his back on a playoff team despite all the Vikings have done for him, he’s likely to be trouble wherever he goes. At that point the Vikings can then trade him to Jacksonville for some top draft picks and let him waste his career down there.

  48. nycheesehead420 says: Jan 7, 2013 3:20 PM

    Harvin is far to talented to be a queen. He’s long gone. Poor AP, one of the best ever stuck in such a pathetic franchise.

  49. jimmysee says: Jan 7, 2013 3:23 PM

    conormacleod says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:36 PM
    jimmysee says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:11 PM
    Percy Harvin is a talent — but way too fragile to be given a long term deal
    ————————————————
    Fragile…except for the fact that he’s averaged 15 games played per season before for this season. And, what do you want to do with a guy that is one of the best return guys in the league, and missed 7 games but still lead your team in yards?

    Just like when somebody stated Ponder is too fragile. Except for the fact that he played every game this season before the playoffs.

    You know, there is a little something called the internet to actually look up facts before posting nonsense.

    ————————————————-

    You must be his agent.

  50. shaggytoodle says: Jan 7, 2013 3:26 PM

    wludford says: Jan 7, 2013 3:17 PM

    I should also add that for Percy Harvin, he needs to recognize that the Vikings:

    1) Had the faith in him to draft him despite his college incidents;
    2) Worked with him through his migraine and other injuries;
    3) Featured him and made him their leading receiver and kick-returner;
    ________

    I agree with it all, and that’s why he doesn’t deserve the big contract as another person had stated.

    He has the most talent on the team not named Adrian Peterson. A few talented players don’t make teams great though.

    He misses too much practice. He would a top 5 receiver in the division if it wasn’t for that. Until he practices and continues to improve he will be a bit overrated in my eyes.

  51. dikhurtz says: Jan 7, 2013 3:43 PM

    Rumor has it that Ponder called Jay Cutler and Cutler told him he won’t play with anything more than an in grown toe nail.

  52. rmzthefirst says: Jan 7, 2013 3:44 PM

    Hook him back up with Tebow….! IN JACKSONVILLE………………………

  53. filthymcnasty1 says: Jan 7, 2013 3:45 PM

    Harvin quits as well as any of the Vikings. They love their off the field drama up in MN, and he is just the diva to give it to them.

  54. painsyndicate says: Jan 7, 2013 4:11 PM

    I love him as a Viking but you have to admit that he would be outstanding on a team like the Ravens.

  55. stevent92 says: Jan 7, 2013 4:18 PM

    Joe Webb does not have the skill set to compete at WR in the NFL. They have tried it, there is a reason he was moved back to backup QB.

    Just because you’re fast does NOT mean you can play WR at that level.

  56. judsonjr says: Jan 7, 2013 4:29 PM

    Thing with Harvin is that he’s not getting 10M+ like the top guys. Best he can hope for is the Stevie Johnson range of 7-8M a year, presuming he waits to become a FA.

    If you extend him would probably be 2 more years, essentially a 3yr/17M deal. At least that is what I think the Vikes would max out at wanting to give. The problem with that is that 2 years from now will come the whining about being underpaid compared to everyone else.

    Harvin has no leverage as the Vikes can just have him play one more year at the bargain price of 2M.

  57. fargovikesfan says: Jan 7, 2013 4:43 PM

    Why does everyone think we NEED to find a position on the roster for Webb? He’s proven he’s not a legit QB, apparently he’s not a legit WR either (can’t catch or run good routes). Good grief, he was a 6th round pick. its not like you drafted him in the first round and paid him Jamarcus Russell type money or something. Cut him, let him move on. If he catches on somewhere and makes something of himself, good for him. We aren’t out anything.

  58. pillowporkers says: Jan 7, 2013 4:50 PM

    I can’t stand listening to Packers fans. You could call me jealous in a way, but they honestly need to realize they are lucky to have the best player at the most important position. The Pack had 3 pro bowlers. And 1 is on the bench because he sucks (Jeff Saturday). Green Bay is literally a garbage football team, and there is no doubt without Rodgers this team goes 1-15 Indy Colts style. Then I have to listen to that fan base tell me how terrible the Vikings are. Talk about annoying!

  59. Ponder This says: Jan 7, 2013 5:01 PM

    Whether he’s back or not depends a lot on cap room. The Vikings need to get a big #1 receiver in free agency and they probably can’t give both Percy and a big-time free agent big money. They might trade him for draft picks and replace him with a free agent who can be more of a #1 guy.

  60. lordfletcher says: Jan 7, 2013 5:30 PM

    fballguy says:
    Jan 7, 2013 1:47 PM
    He’d look good in Ram horns.

    completely agree… even tho you are in the NFC, you would be a great fit for Harvin and your squad has SEVERAL draft picks. First team to throw a first rounder at the Vikes win’s Harvin… I am scared it will be the pats. Brady + Harvin, unreal

  61. stellarperformance says: Jan 7, 2013 5:39 PM

    Cancer by any other name is still cancer. Buy him a cane and let him walk.

  62. 10tender says: Jan 7, 2013 5:47 PM

    Where was brady drafted again? He was given a chance and won, Webb needs the same thing.

  63. jziii says: Jan 7, 2013 5:59 PM

    I ain’t no genius like so many of the commenters here, but I would like to hear something from Percy himself; would like to know what is bugging him. He is such a great player, and he plays like a Junior AP whenever he gets the ball. The Vikes need him.

    Everyone makes such a big issue about him being volatile, but other than that weird 24-hour dust-up during camp and that meltdown on the sideline this season, I haven’t seen much evidence of it, and a lot of it seems overblown. You never see or hear of T.O.-style antics or any of that baloney, so all of this stuff about him being a cancer may be a bunch of baloney.

  64. thejuddstir says: Jan 7, 2013 7:18 PM

    Trade Harvin to Belichek for one of his two TE’s as Pats have refused to give an extension to Welker because he’s getting up there in age. Free agent WR Jennings, Wright plays the slot, 2 elite TE’s with MVP RB and draft another WR and Vikes take a huge step forward, providing Ponder improves with an improved receiving corp.

  65. krazytrane says: Jan 7, 2013 8:37 PM

    If they make the same stride in their WRs next year that they made this with the DBs this year, the team will continue to have a better record than expected. When was the last time any Minnesota teams won 4 of 5 tough games in a row when needed. Frazier brings a calm confidence to Minnesota we never had before. Maybe TK but he never had the consistent chance with talent. Hopefully Frazier can be as accomplished.

  66. luccabrazzi says: Jan 7, 2013 9:03 PM

    justintuckrule says: Jan 7, 2013 1:55 PM

    too injury prone to be given an extension. If a dude like Victor Cruz with his numbers, less salary and better durability is made to play out his final year, Harvin better think again if he’s hoping for an extension.
    ———————————-

    Percy Harvin is a better football player than Victor Cruz. He’s faster, has better hands, MUCH stronger, and overall just a more dynamic football player. I aint knocking VC cuz he can play, but when Percy went out in week 9 he was in the conversation for MVP according to multiple NFL reports. Injuries are not the reason to NOT extend him, but his attitude is. A little humility would serve Percy well, no one player is bigger than the team, and it was never more evident than when the team went 5-2 over the last seven games to get into the playoffs without him. Hope to see him back, but I dont think it will happen…

  67. mediasloppy says: Jan 8, 2013 1:51 PM

    I don’t care what anyone says. Percy is one of the best players in the NFL and aside from a high 1st round draft pick, losing him will cost more than anything.

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