Comments on: London Fletcher may have played his last NFL game

By: jwreck

jwreck — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:33:55 +0000

moagecu says:
Jan 7, 2013 11:08 AM
I appreciated what London has done, but to compare London and Ray is stupid. in 12 less games, Ray has 242 more tackles, 4.5 more sacks, 8 more INT, 29 more PD, let’s see the difference if Ray plays same amount of games.
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Good point, but Fletcher has an NFL record 86 pick-sixes in his career. Wow, making up numbers is fun.

While Lewis does have 4.5 more sacks and more interceptions than Fletcher; Fletcher has 167 more tackles than Lewis, and four more passes defended (also one more forced fumble and one more safety, in case anyone cares). Don’t believe me? Look it up yourself.

Fletch and Ray Ray are both great players, and I’m not here to pass judgment one way or another, just keeping it straight. Well, maybe I’ll pass judgment on on moagecu. Lewis is a great player bro, I don’t see why you have to taint your argument with faulty numbers.

Moreover, I just don’t see how this is such an antagonistic rivalry. I’m a big Fletch fan and a big Ray Ray fan. I think most Fletcher fans genuinely like Lewis, and it should work the other way around as well.

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:21:33 +0000

golonger

Actually, 1999, the Rams had the #4 defense in the league for points and number 6 for yards. They were number 3 in 2001. Not too shabby.

Again, look at the numbers. Ray was obviously better than Fletcher ever was in the early part of his career. But Fletcher has been better over the last decade.

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:01:42 +0000

yeah – 2 Super Bowls carried by the offense..they werent there because of their defense which is partially why he wasnt kept by the Rams.LOL

By: nextyearchargers

nextyearchargers — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:55:35 +0000

Hey golonger – Fletcher has won a superbowl. He’s been to more superbowls than mighty Ray.

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:54:41 +0000

mack – and what has Fletcher won????nothing….running around making tackles on a bad defense doesnt make one great..sorry!

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:42:15 +0000

johntonio – making a lot of tackles does not make you a great linebacker…Ray MADE the Ravens D dominant, NOT the opposite…many players have come and gone and what is the main constant?..HIM. No linebacker calls the Defense and makes things go like he does. If you want to pretend Flethcer does, go ahead. Ask ANYONE remotely related to the NFL and they will tell you the same. You can continue your grade-school conjectures and waste your own time!

By: themackstrong

themackstrong — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:34:22 +0000

London Fletcher still brings it at 37. He has 5 Int’s and still a tackling machine this season. Even last game he made some open field tackles on Lynch that the young studs in NFL miss on regularly not to mention that helmet to ball fumble on 1 yard line. Class act, great professional and deserve to be mentioned with the best. Last 2-3 years he has been a far better player than Ray Lewis, years before Lewis will have the edge no doubt.

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:32:19 +0000

johntonioholmes…Lewis hasnt played many years with Suggs or Ngata and he won a SB without them! I could argue the reason Fletcher got his tackles is because he has always played behind a week line! Lewis is better period..if you dont think so you are clueless!

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:14:49 +0000

skinsfan87

You nailed it. Fletcher never played with a Suggs or a Ngata.

Just look at last nights game. Lewis had a ball tipped into his hands. If he would have held onto it and run it back for six, everyone would have ruined their pants saying how good he still is. The fact of the matter is, SOMEONE ELSE made the play for him.

He led the team in tackles yesterday because Luck was throwing right at him. He would have had 2 more tackles if Luck’s receivers could hold onto the ball. He wasn’t break up the passes though!

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:10:34 +0000

golonger

When you say Lewis’s average years, are you talking about every year after 2001 (with the exception of 2006, when he was actually really good)?

Look at the numbers.

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:08:45 +0000

It’s too bad Fletcher didn’t draw attention to himself with a lame dance before every game like Ray Lewis. Otherwise, he’d be a surefire HOFer. Easily, the most consistently good linebacker over the last decade.

By: bengalsucker

bengalsucker — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:52:15 +0000

I bet ESPN won’t be throwing the check book at him. Simply because he’s not a loud mouth “look at me dance” type. Too bad Ray Lewis is getting the attention. Guess you gotta be an accomplice to murder to get any attention ’round hea.

By: elitocruz

elitocruz — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:42:10 +0000

giants fan here, one of the most underated linebackers that i have ever seen play, def not on ray lewis’ level but one of the most durable and productive defensive players i have ever seen, can’t say that i’m sad to see him go as a gmen fan but they sure can use a linebacker like him

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:00:49 +0000

It’s amazing all these delusional Redskin fans thinking Fletcher is better than Ray Lewis. Not surprising as Redskin fans seem delusional about everything. Fletcher’s BEST years = Lewis’ average years. If you don’t believe me, ask ANY NFL player, including Lavar Arrington. This was brough up on his show one day and he laughed and said Ray Lewis is infinitely better..no comparison. Sorry Redskin fans. Get a clue. Also, your back-up QB isnt starter caliber either..sorry!

By: skinsfan87

skinsfan87 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:00:39 +0000

I hope Fletcher comes back for another year. He was the heart & soul of the Redskins defense.

As for the comparisons to Ray Lewis, he’s closer than people give him credit for. It was said earlier, RL was multi-year probowler, DFPOY, SBMVP on a dominant defense, etc. Ask yourselves this, IF RL wasn’t on a dominant team, would he still have those accolades? NO, You’d have London Fletcher…

By: goldrush4949

goldrush4949 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:00:06 +0000

I remember way back in 1998 I was watching a regular season game between the Niners and the Rams. John Madden was talking about this new undrafted free agent the Rams had playing linebacker named London Fletcher. 15 years and three Pro Bowls later he was one of the best mike linebackers of his era.

By: elliottcovert

elliottcovert — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:49:16 +0000

London Fletcher never had a flashy personality and didn’t generate a lot of headlines, but he was a consistent upper-level linebacker for a very, very long time in the NFL. Congrats on a great career, and best wishes going forward.

By: hjworton46

hjworton46 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:33:10 +0000

As great a player as Ray Lewis. It’s baffling that he was never voted into more pro bowls.

By: moagecu

moagecu — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:08:38 +0000

I appreciated what London has done, but to compare London and Ray is stupid. in 12 less games, Ray has 242 more tackles, 4.5 more sacks, 8 more INT, 29 more PD, let’s see the difference if Ray plays same amount of games.

By: rg3sus

rg3sus — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:55:09 +0000

By far the best free agent signing the skins have had during the Snyder era. Maybe the best ever. London is a class act, reliable as a rock, and a great player who gives it his all. The skins seem to be legit now so it would be sad for him to leave just after becoming contenders after years of being terrible

By: polo550

polo550 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:40:06 +0000

I’ve been reading these posts about how London Fletcher is better or equal to Ray Lewis and it’s plain b.s. I know that fans like to prop up their favorite players and measure them up to the greatest. But in this generation of MLBs Ray is the measuring stick. I really believe that London Fletcher is a Hall of Famer one day and that he was truly a solid MLB but nobody will mention his name after he’s really done. He won’t get mentioned with the all time greats. He most likely won’t get voted in to the HOF first ballot simply because he doesn’t have the credentials to do so. He has a Super Bowl ring and a ton of tackles but it’s not hard to rack up the tackles that he has after playing 17 years. Ask yourself how much of an impact has he actually had on his team or even on the league? Is he a generational player? Someone that when you get old you can say that you had the priveledge of watching. He’s played on some bad teams and bad defenses. He’s been in the league 17 years and has only gone to 3 Probowls. Obviously there were better MLBs in the NFC for 14 out of his 17 years. You can’t debate stats because they are facts. Lewis has a SB. 12 Probowls, 10 time All Pro, 2 time DPY, and SB MVP. Plus he’s been the leader of one of the most dominant defenses in the NFL over the last decade. So he’s consistant. So he garnered all of these accolades because he speaks out and hypes up his players? Even if he didn’t play for my team I would be typing this reply because it’s the truth and I don’t hate on players because everybody that claims that they have a beef with Ray would love to have had him be the leader of their teams defense the past 17 years.

By: jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson

jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:25:30 +0000

I haven’t watched much of London but know through my Skins fan friends that this guy is legit, just very quiet and humble, similar to Champ Bailey (Broncos still reaping the benefits of that moronic trade by the Skins).

By: metalman5150

metalman5150 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:02:13 +0000

Fletch is the consummate professional.
THANK YOU FLETCH! For all of your passion, integrity and patience that you have given to us.
Tremendous inspiration.

By: flakeybiscuits

flakeybiscuits — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:59:47 +0000

one of the biggest mistakes the bills ever made was letting this guy walk

By: rg3thetruth

rg3thetruth — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:55:11 +0000

I love Ray Lewis and he is def the greatest but to say London Fletcher isn’t even close??? Get out from under your bubble. Fletcher is the most underrated player in football. Always gets overlooked for Probowl which is a joke! Ray Lewis > Fletcher but it is only by the smallest of margins. Lewis is just more vocal than Fletcher and that makes the difference. He is more entertaining but when it comes to football, it is very close. Lewis and Fletcher should both be first ballot HOF!

By: wayoutmama

wayoutmama — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:52:52 +0000

Say it isn’t so, London! I think when the dust settles he’ll come around. I hope so. My favorite player, I did this song for him! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKJZrpOmJCs

By: gorilladunk

gorilladunk — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:20:54 +0000

Been a Cowboys fan all my life, but I have tremendous respect for Fletcher. What a player. “It ain’t the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog!”

By: jiggy3198

jiggy3198 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:13:55 +0000

no matter what the article is someone must bash the ravens. They are the most polarizing team in football. No matter what they have to compare London Fletcher to Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis is simply the best no doubt no questions.

By: nycheesehead420

nycheesehead420 — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:16 +0000

One of the most underrated players of the last decade. Dude is a beast…if he hangs it up this cheesehead will miss watchin him play.

By: steelerdeathstar

steelerdeathstar — Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:06:44 +0000

If London Fletcher does decide to hang it up, he’ll leave with the legacy of being one of the best, most consistent, and durable LB’s in NFL history; as well as one of the most underrated.
Good luck to him whatever he decides.