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Ponder: Letting team down hurts more than his arm

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Today, Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder can hold a football and raise it to his chest.

That’s progress.

Ponder told reporters Monday there was no way his right arm would have allowed him to play in Saturday night’s playoff loss to the Packers, as he couldn’t physically throw a football.

“To know that we had a game like that in Green Bay, we had a very good chance of winning that game,” Ponder said, via Tom Pelissero of 1500ESPN.com. “For myself to let my team down, that’s what hurts the most.”

Ponder pulled back a protective sleeve to show reporters his badly bruised right arm. Shari Gross of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune got a picture of it, but Pelissero’s reaction to it might be as telling.

Ponder said he wouldn’t need surgery, that time to rest would allow it to heal properly.

He also said he knew there was no realistic chance of playing in the playoff game, that the surprise was getting through the regular season finale after Packers safety Morgan Burnett hit him in the arm.

“Once I left the game on that Sunday, it was pretty tough to even move it,” Ponder said. “We were optimistic. We put a lot of time and treatment and we saw progressions each day that maybe we had some hope that by 7 o’clock Saturday night I’d be ready to go. That just didn’t come into fruition.”

While there was some optimism that Webb’s mobility might have given the Vikings some degree of hope, their lack of anyone behind Ponder with the ability to throw the forward pass doomed them.

Addressing that this offseason will be important, should they want to give themselves a chance in this situation again.

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51 Responses to “Ponder: Letting team down hurts more than his arm”
  1. blackandbluedivision says: Jan 7, 2013 2:13 PM

    You let the city of Chicago down too. Why couldn’t you get hurt a week before?

  2. jimmysee says: Jan 7, 2013 2:14 PM

    Bring back Tavaris Jackson!

  3. fanofevilempire says: Jan 7, 2013 2:16 PM

    I hate that they faced the Pack the week before, I don’t think they would have won anyway.
    Once they saw the back up the Pack was going to key in on AD.

  4. hutch119 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:16 PM

    I know people are caught up in Ponders most recent game where he beat the Pack and played surprisingly well however have people not seen him play this year? Have been not seen his stats in outdoor games?

    Ponder is lucky he got to go out on a high and let Webb take that game for him because the results would have been the exact same.

  5. enochmh2 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:17 PM

    Before the game i thought Webb would play a decent game but after the first half i thou the vikings had a better with ponders left hand

  6. hurrayforyogapants says: Jan 7, 2013 2:20 PM

    Then suit up and play. Couldn’t have been any worse than Webb. RGIII played until his leg practically fell off, yet you can’t play because of a bruise and limited mobility?

  7. 7ransponder says: Jan 7, 2013 2:20 PM

    Those pics are very telling, they did the right thing in keeping him out of the game, but we REALLY need a viable backup, Webb ain’t it. Rosencopter would have been a much better option, sadly.

    Throw Webb on the WR corps, make Bethel Thompson compete with at least one other for the backup position and see what shakes out.

  8. hutch119 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:21 PM

    their lack of anyone behind Ponder with the ability to throw the forward pass doomed them.

    Ponder can’t throw a forward pass!

    I can’t believe how well this played out for him. Instead of a summer of scrutiny he will get a summer of praise.

  9. punkyqb says: Jan 7, 2013 2:22 PM

    Not a Vikings fan but I don’t think the outcome would have been different.

  10. Ponder This says: Jan 7, 2013 2:28 PM

    Webb should have been cut in training camp, like most people expected. Ponder is a warrior. Did you see that 65-yard pass he made after the arm got hurt? And the 3-yard TD to Jenkins in a window the size of Gerbschmidt’s brain? He did a great job bouncing back from a terrible run in the middle of the season. In hindsight, he probably would have done better kicking the ball than Webb did throwing it. Looking forward to next year!

  11. titogetmesometissue says: Jan 7, 2013 2:33 PM

    Ponder said he wouldn’t need surgery, that time to rest would allow it to heal properly.

    – Geez, do you think you’ll be ready for training camp next season? He got bruised, it’s not like he tore an ACL. Gimme a break.

  12. nfloracle says: Jan 7, 2013 2:33 PM

    Too bad Shanahan didn’t have the sense to use RG3’s back-up instead of possibly sacrificing some (or much) of the amazing potential of a young warrior too stubborn and too courageous to say “I’m too injured to play my best.”

  13. packer49ers says: Jan 7, 2013 2:37 PM

    Webb appeared physically unable to throw the ball also, so Ponder would have been fine too….

  14. pistolsmoke says: Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM

    7ransponder, we had a viable backup. His name was Sage Rosenfels, but he was cut to save $500K. Big mistake.

  15. beedubyatoo says: Jan 7, 2013 2:45 PM

    hurrayforyogapants says:Jan 7, 2013 2:20 PM

    Then suit up and play. Couldn’t have been any worse than Webb. RGIII played until his leg practically fell off, yet you can’t play because of a bruise and limited mobility?
    ——————–
    Redskins lost their game too. Would you like to reconsider your comment?

  16. wojowbk says: Jan 7, 2013 2:46 PM

    Favre would’ve played a preseason game with a broken arm if he could. I understand different people have different resistance to pain but sometimes you just have to question a guy’s toughness. Franchise QB’s don’t sit out games.

    But then again Ponder already has a noodle arm. Poor guy probably couldn’t throw over a yard.

  17. conormacleod says: Jan 7, 2013 2:46 PM

    hutch119 says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:16 PM
    I know people are caught up in Ponders most recent game where he beat the Pack and played surprisingly well however have people not seen him play this year? Have been not seen his stats in outdoor games?
    ————————————————-
    Yes, Ponder had several poor games this year. But, we can’t hardly overlook the fact that he lead the team to a 10-6 record, a 4 game winning streak to end the season, and a trip to the playoffs. The jury is still out on if he is the long term answer, but he played well enough in his first full season to deserve another shot at the start of next season.

  18. technovike says: Jan 7, 2013 2:47 PM

    as bad as Webb was, those receivers are even worse. jogging their routes, like a trainwreck in slowmotion.

  19. conormacleod says: Jan 7, 2013 2:48 PM

    So ridiculous that people are comparing Ponder to RGIII and stating Ponder should have played. Um, the Redskins lost their game, RGIII played terrible, and the man (or his coach) should have had the balls to sit him down. Oh ya, and RGIII may have to have surgery now. Yep, wise decision for him to play.

  20. dannymac17 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:48 PM

    You also let me down in Vegas with the 11 point swing this weekend.

    that hurt my wallet more than your girly feelings and weak arm, Ponder.

  21. seeyouinhelljohnny says: Jan 7, 2013 2:49 PM

    I’m sure MJD will be calling Ponder and RGIII out on twitter any moment now. Yep, ANY moment…

  22. lambeaufieldwest says: Jan 7, 2013 2:49 PM

    AP is a beast, but, the only reason the Vikes won the game in week 17 is that Ponder literally played the game of his life.

    He would have had to play the game of his life again to win at Lambeau. I can’t see that happening.

  23. purpleman527 says: Jan 7, 2013 2:56 PM

    “He also said he knew there was no realistic chance of playing in the playoff game,….”

    This quote shows me that the coaching staff did a HORRIBLE job of getting Webb ready. At first, I thought the vikes PR on Ponder playing all week, was a brilliant ploy to shock the packers at game time.

    But after seeing how Webb played, I think the coaching staff and their game plan was horrible. They only ran the read option on the first series.

    The whole vikings team looked totally unprepared.

  24. packmangamble says: Jan 7, 2013 2:57 PM

    “To know that we had a game like that in Green Bay, we had a very good chance of winning that game,” Ponder said.

    C’mon Ponder, you didn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of winning that game!

  25. nycheesehead420 says: Jan 7, 2013 3:01 PM

    How sweet it is! Not so much trash talk from Queen nation this week eh? That’s right…Pack still owns you. See ya next year Queens.

  26. tombradysponytail says: Jan 7, 2013 3:02 PM

    pistolsmoke says:Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM

    7ransponder, we had a viable backup. His name was Sage Rosenfels, but he was cut to save $500K. Big mistake.

    —-

    No, they PAID him the $500K and then dumped him.

  27. elliottcovert says: Jan 7, 2013 3:08 PM

    All the Ponder haters out there should take note of the toughness Ponder displayed to complete the Green Bay game after he got this injury. Whatever you say about Ponder, the fact that he finished the game displays great dedication and toughness.

  28. hurrayforyogapants says: Jan 7, 2013 3:09 PM

    pistolsmoke says:Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM

    7ransponder, we had a viable backup. His name was Sage Rosenfels, but he was cut to save $500K. Big mistake.

    ======

    Brett Favre also mentioned on several occasions how helpful it was to have Sage Rosenfels to consult with during games and in practice. But, apparently, somebody who Favre sought out for guidance and advice wasn’t good enough to tutor our young QBs….

  29. 7ransponder says: Jan 7, 2013 3:11 PM

    pistolsmoke says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM
    7ransponder, we had a viable backup. His name was Sage Rosenfels, but he was cut to save $500K. Big mistake.

    —————————

    I agree, that’s who I was referring to when I said “Rosencopter” ;)

  30. hurrayforyogapants says: Jan 7, 2013 3:12 PM

    @beedubya, conormc

    That’s Shanahan’s fault. And RGIII likely has a torn ACL, Ponder has a bruised arm. Hardly the same thing.

  31. kevinwi says: Jan 7, 2013 3:20 PM

    Sage wasn’t cut to save $500K….that was his bonus…he doesn’t give that back.

  32. jrmbadger says: Jan 7, 2013 3:24 PM

    Ahh, Tom Pelissero. His opinion on any subject is about is relevant as the toilet paper I flushed this morning.

  33. filthymcnasty1 says: Jan 7, 2013 3:32 PM

    It’s not like any of the other Vikings showed up for that game. What a bunch of gutless quitters.

  34. eaststsfb says: Jan 7, 2013 3:34 PM

    Listen to all the Vikings fans that were clamoring for Webb to play instead of Ponder. You all said that Webb was better and that they would beat GB with Ponder on the bench. Now you all say he sucks and he should have been cut in training camp. Figure it out boys. Ridiculous.

  35. skittlesareyum says: Jan 7, 2013 3:37 PM

    wojowbk says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:46 PM
    Favre would’ve played a preseason game with a broken arm if he could. I understand different people have different resistance to pain but sometimes you just have to question a guy’s toughness. Franchise QB’s don’t sit out games.

    ——————-

    Favre did some things that no one should emulate (in addition to his fun with cellphones). Favre would claim he could play, then proceed to go 2/15 for 9 yards and 6 INTs. After that he would still claim he could play. At some point you just can’t play. Ponder’s arm looked so swollen even if there was no pain at all he probably physically couldn’t throw properly.

    As a Packers fan, I was disappointed Ponder didn’t play. He would have done better than Webb and I enjoy games more when teams are at full strength. I’m glad we won, but it wasn’t as enjoyable to watch as the week 17 game, even though we lost that one.

  36. purpleguy says: Jan 7, 2013 3:41 PM

    Ponder’s presence likely would have meant the Vikes still lost but beat the spread. However, it may have been the way they were playing Webb, but as open as the WRs were because the Pack sold out to stop AP, even an average QB could have had luck in the passing game. At least all the idiots that chant for Webb to start will now shut up. Releasing Rosencopter was a mistake.

  37. indyseriesnick says: Jan 7, 2013 4:00 PM

    I just wish we could keep Webb in a different way. He seems like an incredible athlete!

  38. thestrategyexpert says: Jan 7, 2013 4:16 PM

    You didn’t let the team down unless you are going to tell us you were able to play. Which is it?

    The GM of the team and the HC let this team down. They are your 2 weakest people. Replace them with good football men and you guys would have won the division and been the best team in the Conference, and probably the league. It’s easy to win when you have Adrian Peterson and a handful of other great players here and there. What a shame.

    Minnesota is like Detroit of the 90’s, just going to waste away a legendary RB for NOTHING!

  39. purplekoolaid1 says: Jan 7, 2013 4:20 PM

    I guess you have to have extreme confidence to be an NFL player. He actually thought they would have won with him in there? Yeah, yeah, he had a good game the week prior to help get them into the playoffs. Does he not understand that without Peterson he would be horrible?

    This is a QB who had 6 games throwing for under 200 yards and 3 games throwing for under 100 yards. And that’s with Peterson almost breaking the single season rushing record. That is flat out embarrassing.

    It was a loss either way. Face it.

  40. scfr44 says: Jan 7, 2013 4:23 PM

    What a sissy! Shoule’ve toughed it out! Loser let his team down! Did you see the look on his face on the sideline???? Oh wait, that was what was said about Cutler when he got hurt in the playoffs.

  41. matthewcarlson1 says: Jan 7, 2013 4:28 PM

    Vikings fans weren’t asking for Webb, they were asking for not Ponder. Webb just happened to be the only option. And the last time we saw him play he was much better than on Saturday. Why don’t you comment on your own teams stories if you hate the Vikings so much? Its getting really old.

  42. chillyp says: Jan 7, 2013 4:44 PM

    Yeah, Ponder should have gone out there and played and maybe aggravate his injury even more. ~RGIII out 14 to 18 months with MCL and PCL.

  43. purplekoolaid1 says: Jan 7, 2013 4:47 PM

    I find it funny that Vikings fans are asking for the team to get a viable backup QB. When in reality they need a viable starting QB too while they’re at it.

  44. bobnelsonjr says: Jan 7, 2013 4:53 PM

    Brett Favre played half a season with a fractured thumb on his throwing hand in 2003.

    Now 9 years later the vikings training and medical staff can’t treat a simple contusion and get a QB ready to play?!!!

    Why hasn’t the vikings medical and training staff improved since training camp 2001?

  45. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jan 7, 2013 6:33 PM

    “Ponder if you were a real man, you would have played injured anyway like RG”. Sincerely Mike Shanahan

  46. vikefan says: Jan 7, 2013 7:54 PM

    One of the biggest mistakes this un intelligent organization has done in the past 3 years is have all the talent/speed in the world in joe webb and relegate him to a backup qb job that he totally sucks at. special teams punt/kickoff return anyone? if u aint smart nuff to put the guy in the best situation for success dump him and make better use of the roster spot! he has been a total waste of roster space by the front office since he has been here because they are not using his best ability….speed!!

  47. luccabrazzi says: Jan 7, 2013 8:46 PM

    bobnelsonjr says: Jan 7, 2013 4:53 PM

    Brett Favre played half a season with a fractured thumb on his throwing hand in 2003.

    Now 9 years later the vikings training and medical staff can’t treat a simple contusion and get a QB ready to play?!!!

    Why hasn’t the vikings medical and training staff improved since training camp 2001?
    ———————————————

    Do you mean the same medical staff that got AP ready to go for this year only 8 months after tearing his ACL? C’mon, sometimes we need to think before we open our mouths dont ya think?

  48. zygizag says: Jan 7, 2013 10:42 PM

    Not all WEBB

    OC gets a lot of the blame.
    few read calls after the first drive.
    No screens when pressure started coming.
    No early short passes to get WEBB’s confidence up and in the groove.

    AD less than 100 yards.
    D no turnovers
    ST turnover and no great play
    = a healthy Ponder would have lost too

    (of couse one could argue that maybe with a 77 yards of pass in the first half from Ponder mayber AD wold have more yardage too.)

    PONDER 22 starts I believe 3-4 very good games
    WEBB 4 games 1 very good game

    Verdict is still out on both.

    If WEBB can improve in the pocket he has something has a great arm and legs.

    PONDER did show that he does have an OK arm by the long throw in his last game.

  49. vikefan says: Jan 8, 2013 7:33 AM

    neither one of these qb’s are starter NFL material. neither one can throw an accurate consitent deep ball or fade. 1 completion in 16 games & 0-10 (or so) just doesnt cut it in the NFL. you either have the arm strength/accuracy or u dont…..cant be taught. long term they are both NFL backups at best if you dont want to be looking at the same situation as sanchez, mitchell, etc.

  50. zn0rseman says: Jan 8, 2013 8:46 AM

    pistolsmoke says:
    Jan 7, 2013 2:39 PM
    7ransponder, we had a viable backup. His name was Sage Rosenfels, but he was cut to save $500K. Big mistake.

     ————-

    Agreed. The Vikings could have won that game with either Ponder or Rosenfels. Webb just doesn’t have the mental strength for the position. Bethel-Thompson would have been a better option than Webb.

    I like Webb. He’s a good athlete and a good guy but he can’t play QB and Fraisier has wasted his talent trying to shoe-horn him into that position.

  51. whatjusthapped says: Jan 8, 2013 2:17 PM

    What time do the Vikings play this weekend?

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