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Christian Ponder isn’t sure whether Percy Harvin will be back

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Vikings coach Leslie Frazier said Monday that receiver Percy Harvin will remain with the team in 2013.  Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder has somewhat less optimism.

“I’m not sure, I don’t know,” Ponder told Paul Allen of KFAN on Tuesday.  “We’ll see.  I mean, we’ll see how everything shakes out.  I’m not sure what Rick Spielman’s gonna be doing.  Obviously, it’d be nice to have [Harvin].  He’s a heck of a player.”

That’s a stunningly vague assessment of the status of the 2009 NFL offensive rookie of the year and one of the short-list candidates for league MVP based on his performances early in the 2013 season, especially since Harvin remains under contract for one more season.  But there always has been a quiet undercurrent of discontent when it comes to Percy Harvin.  Though he rarely acts out publicly, he apparently has done plenty of acting out privately — and it could be enough to prompt the Vikings to trade an arguably tired act out of town.

Indeed, Ponder opted, consciously or not, for the past tense when talking about Harvin.

“You know, he busts his butt all the time when he was here,” Ponder said of Harvin.  “When he was out on the field, no one worked harder than him.  Obviously, everyone saw how tough he was physically and mentally. And he had a lot of leadership qualities.  He was a good teammate.”

He was a good teammate.

Yep.  Percy’s gone.

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  1. broncobeta says: Jan 8, 2013 3:42 PM

    Oh man, I remember in high school when Percy Harvin punched a kid in the face during a basketball game and he got suspended from all sports for the rest of the year.

    It made it really hard for him to defend his 5 state titles in track.

  2. natelan69 says: Jan 8, 2013 3:43 PM

    Ponder won’t be too far behind.

  3. jbaxt says: Jan 8, 2013 3:46 PM

    He’d look good in an Andy Reid offense. And with his ability to make people miss you don’t need that good of a QB to make him work, right Ponder?

  4. mediasloppy says: Jan 8, 2013 3:47 PM

    This is the exact reason players from all sports should not talk to the media or plead the 5th. You can make any statement into propaganda.

  5. tindeaux says: Jan 8, 2013 3:48 PM

    kind of like “I don’t know if my coworker will continue to be back next year…” so if the one who asked the question, might as well as percy harvin… not a smart thing to ask christian ponder.

  6. ratbirdking says: Jan 8, 2013 3:49 PM

    always a solid fantasy pickup.

  7. lucasjaypauley says: Jan 8, 2013 3:49 PM

    Bears need a (quality) speed guy at receiver. Just saying.

    Sorry, just being a meatball.

  8. touchdown83 says: Jan 8, 2013 3:50 PM

    Or “when he was here” or “was out on the field” could be in another sense of the word, as in before he got injured and put on IR, and WAS no longer out there with the team.

  9. caseyinkc says: Jan 8, 2013 3:50 PM

    I didn’t realize Christian Ponder got a promotion from mediocre QB to manager of personnel!

  10. dabearsk says: Jan 8, 2013 3:51 PM

    Feel free to trade him to the Bears. We will happily give you Kellen Davis. Davis is a quality starting TE that Lovie Smith really believes.
    Davis was such a stud starting TE he ranked #44 out of all TEs. Good thing there are only 32 teams otherwise he would have been lowers

  11. daamgud says: Jan 8, 2013 3:52 PM

    Pretty sure Harvin wasn’t around the team much this season after his injury. You posted an article not long ago about how he’s rehabbing in Florida. Is it so hard to imagine that Ponder might think about Harvin in the past tense only because it’s been a couple months since they’ve played together?

    You might end up being right on this, but it certainly isn’t because Christian Ponder said “he was a good teammate” instead of “he is a good teammate.”

  12. sportsmeccabi says: Jan 8, 2013 3:52 PM

    He needs more time to ponder.

  13. nodaksportsfan says: Jan 8, 2013 3:54 PM

    If he doesn’t want to be there I say ship him out. Just make sure you get a a good return and you ship him to the AFC. The Vikings hold all the cards. He has one year left on his contract then they can franchise tag him.

  14. thegreatgabbert says: Jan 8, 2013 3:55 PM

    Lol, Ponder. Where did he get his degrees? Dumb as dirt.

  15. thechronicjoker says: Jan 8, 2013 3:57 PM

    I cant see the Vikings keeping him. He misses practices and games from migraine headaches. instead of injuries from playing football. You can’t count on him during game day if he has a headache. He will end up in Oakland for a second round pick

  16. ampats says: Jan 8, 2013 3:59 PM

    Harvin should come to Gators North and join his fellow Gators Spikes,Cunningham & Hernandez.

  17. Frazier28/7 says: Jan 8, 2013 3:59 PM

    Trade him to New England for Jerod Mayo.

  18. fringetastic says: Jan 8, 2013 4:02 PM

    This just in: Ponder is not the Viking’s GM. Back to you, Bob.

  19. deangelo23hall says: Jan 8, 2013 4:04 PM

    Come to Washington.

    Running that pistol with Harvin in motion? Yes, please. RGIII would never have to take off to run again.

  20. Ponder This says: Jan 8, 2013 4:08 PM

    It isn’t Ponder’s job to determine what players will be back next year. Frazier can comment on that, but Ponder didn’t because he shouldn’t.

  21. swagger91 says: Jan 8, 2013 4:09 PM

    Go to the patriots we need u

  22. chillyball says: Jan 8, 2013 4:12 PM

    Jacksonville Jaguars. You read it here first.

  23. shots732000 says: Jan 8, 2013 4:13 PM

    Keep on pondering

  24. hauts81 says: Jan 8, 2013 4:21 PM

    Hey Florio, what about Frazier’s statement that he sees no reason why Harvin wouldn’t be back with the team?

  25. zaggs says: Jan 8, 2013 4:23 PM

    Or he could be talking in past tense because the season is over.

  26. hurrayforyogapants says: Jan 8, 2013 4:27 PM

    Ironically, if we got rid of Ponder, he’d probably be back…

  27. tangysizzl says: Jan 8, 2013 4:45 PM

    A franchised tagged Greg Jennings for Percy Harvin straight up.

    Jones and Nelson on the outside Cobb and Harvin inside or one of them at RB in 3WR sets. That would be pretty hard to stop.

  28. demo1984 says: Jan 8, 2013 4:52 PM

    Maybe Ponder meant he WAS a good teamate this year. I hate the media, sports, news, weather it does not matter they twist everything to make a story aout of nothing.

  29. dbones750 says: Jan 8, 2013 4:52 PM

    He’ll get a new job if he migrates, not migraines.

  30. mnjoemama says: Jan 8, 2013 4:53 PM

    That article just have me a migraine !

  31. packownsu says: Jan 8, 2013 4:55 PM

    Viking sure know how to draft headcase WRs. They should get a trophy for this to put in their empty trophy case.

  32. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Jan 8, 2013 5:01 PM

    Don’t feel bad, Vike fans — You should feel good. That was one of the best games I’ve ever seen your team play. You had to amp it up because you were playing against a revved up Packer team. You had it going, People talk about that Adrian Peterson and he ran hard, he’s pretty good, but the difference was that Charles Woodson was in the game. So, that’s a little different than the last week. But, you did good, you did really good, you played really really hard and you should all feel good about yourselves. Be proud of yourselves. And the good news is you can all root for the Green Bay Packers as we go to San Francisco and we’re going to win that game and we’re going to win the Super Bowl. And we can all get in this together – GO NFC North and Go Pack Go!

  33. titogetmesometissue says: Jan 8, 2013 5:05 PM

    Ponder This says:Jan 8, 2013 4:08 PM

    It isn’t Ponder’s job to determine what players will be back next year. Frazier can comment on that, but Ponder didn’t because he shouldn’t.

    ————

    What are you talking about? Ponder did just comment on it? And, frankly, I would expect a (good) leader to handle the question a little more effectively than Ponder did, and not create a firestorm that now requires the coach to fix.

  34. Ponder This says: Jan 8, 2013 5:07 PM

    We feel fine, Carl. Our team has a bright future. We’ve already passed by your team, or maybe you missed the last legitimate game played between the two teams this year?

  35. Ponder This says: Jan 8, 2013 5:09 PM

    @tito –

    “I’m not sure, I don’t know. We’ll see. I mean, we’ll see how everything shakes out.”

    Yeah, that’s quite a controversial comment. I hope Frazier can put out this firestorm. Are you and Carl the same person?

  36. whatjusthapped says: Jan 8, 2013 5:15 PM

    How hard is it to figure this out? Harvin is as good as gone, mainly because Ponder can’t throw but also because Percy wants to win a Superbowl ring and that is never going to happen with the Vikings.

    So what if Ponder let it slip out of the bag, its universally known inside the Vikings locker room and the only people that don’t know are the loyal Viking fans, all 2 dozen of them.

  37. gatorprof says: Jan 8, 2013 5:23 PM

    Percy is a once in a decade type of talent, but unfortunately comes with a bunch of negatives (injury prone, temperamental, not very coachable, non-ideal teammate, loves his weed, etc.).

    As long as the talent remains elite, folks will want him around, but if he starts to break down, pull up lame and is not there for the team when they need him, he will find himself being more trouble than he is worth.

    If there ever was a player that will be a beast during his contract year, it will be Percy. He will have strong drive to get paid. After that, buyer beware.

    The Vikes need to figure out what to do, ride that one year of production, franchise him, etc. and deal with the b!tchiness, etc. or get some value for him via a trade.

    Tough call either way. If they don’t pay him like an elite player in the offseason, he will be a monster to deal with next season.

  38. gettingseattled says: Jan 8, 2013 5:24 PM

    I think there are plenty of teams that will line up with a 1st or 2nd round pick to snatch up the last year of Harvin’s contract, and the option to sign him to a long term deal. He’s one of the most explosive players to ever take an NFL field, I love this guy.

  39. tformation says: Jan 8, 2013 5:29 PM

    Hm. Guess there was something behind those trade rumors at the beginning of the year after all.

    From a football perspective, it’s a little surprising to me that he wants to leave. The Vikes made the playoffs this year after all, and could conceivably be better next year. Guess he feels underpaid, or the Vikes brass hurt his feelings or killed his dog or something.

    As a Bears fan, I’d love to see him on the Bears or at least out of the division. Percy on the Packers or Lions scares the hell out of me.

  40. FinFan68 says: Jan 8, 2013 5:30 PM

    Harvin is not worth the trouble.

  41. threedeep1998 says: Jan 8, 2013 5:37 PM

    “thechronicjoker
    Jan 8, 2013, 2:57 PM CST
    I cant see the Vikings keeping him. He misses practices and games from migraine headaches. instead of injuries from playing football. You can’t count on him during game day if he has a headache. He will end up in Oakland for a second round pick”

    He was diagnosed with sleep apnea and hasn’t had one since. Kid played all 16 in 2011. He’s missed maybe 2 games tops because of migraines between 09-11

  42. anarchopurplism says: Jan 8, 2013 5:38 PM

    Trade him for either:
    -Alex Smith
    -Larry Fitzgerald
    -Kirk Cousins
    -Dwayne Bowe
    -Mike Wallace
    -Matt Flynn

    In that order.

  43. filthymcnasty1 says: Jan 8, 2013 5:47 PM

    One guy who tapped out of a playoff game talking about another guy who also tapped out the 2nd half of the season.

    Maybe they need to interview some Viking players that actually suit up and play for a change.

  44. stellarperformance says: Jan 8, 2013 5:53 PM

    Javon Walker.

  45. fargovikesfan says: Jan 8, 2013 5:55 PM

    tangysizzl says:
    Jan 8, 2013 4:45 PM
    A franchised tagged Greg Jennings for Percy Harvin straight up.

    Jones and Nelson on the outside Cobb and Harvin inside or one of them at RB in 3WR sets. That would be pretty hard to stop.

    ————————————————

    Couple holes in your theory… 1st, Greg Jennings will not be franchised. The packers wouldn’t put that kind of money up for a WR when they have 15 of them on the roster to take his place.
    2nd, the Vikings WOULD NOT trade him to someone that they have to play twice a year.

  46. tjacks7 says: Jan 8, 2013 6:20 PM

    tangysizzl says:
    Jan 8, 2013 4:45 PM
    A franchised tagged Greg Jennings for Percy Harvin straight up.

    Jones and Nelson on the outside Cobb and Harvin inside or one of them at RB in 3WR sets. That would be pretty hard to stop.

     ——-

    Yea then maybe Joe Webb for Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews, straight up. See? I can say insanely stupid stuff too.

  47. Ponder This says: Jan 8, 2013 6:21 PM

    anarchopurplism says:Jan 8, 2013 5:38 PM

    Trade him for either:
    -Alex Smith
    -Larry Fitzgerald
    -Kirk Cousins
    -Dwayne Bowe
    -Mike Wallace
    -Matt Flynn

    In that order.
    ___________

    So you’d rather have Alex Smith than Larry Fitzgerald. Perhaps you shouldn’t be commenting on a football website.

  48. MichaelEdits says: Jan 8, 2013 6:41 PM

    Percy Harvin isn’t sure whether Christian Ponder will be back.

  49. dblockatl says: Jan 8, 2013 6:54 PM

    @Ponder This

    Ask the Arizona Cardinals how much they’d rather have a QB than Larry Fitz right now

  50. antalicus says: Jan 8, 2013 6:56 PM

    If they trade him they better get something more than garbage picks. He is clearly one of the best receivers in the league. Just look at his stats with Ponder throwing to him and that says enough.

  51. joeyashwi says: Jan 8, 2013 8:24 PM

    If I was a wide receiver I would avoid going to the Vikings like the plague until they find a QB. Ponder is timid and has one of the weakest arms in the NFL. He waits for his receivers to get open rather than throwing them open like a good QB does. That being said, if they can get Jennings and maybe a big receiver in the draft to line up with Percy, Wright, and Rudolph, maybe even Ponder can figure it out. You would think the Vikings can figure out how to get more plays out of play action with a beast like Adrian in the backfield.

  52. 16x8equal49ers says: Jan 8, 2013 9:13 PM

    Can’t take the hood out of his Hoodbrige days in Woodbrige VA.
    I hope he doesn’t get picked up by St Louis since they have an extra 1st rnd pick from the Skins.

  53. matthewcarlson1 says: Jan 8, 2013 9:57 PM

    Nfc north teams can quit dreaming, if he’s gone he’s never going to you. I think the Patriots would be the best fit for Percy at RB and slot. Don’t want to see that though. I want to trade him to KC for Bowe. That way he’ll be where he can’t hurt us and he’ll be irrelevant forever and we get what we need. Then sign Jennings if the Packers let him go. Even Ponder couldn’t screw that up.

  54. titogetmesometissue says: Jan 8, 2013 10:37 PM

    Ponder This says:
    Jan 8, 2013 5:09 PM
    @tito –

    “I’m not sure, I don’t know. We’ll see. I mean, we’ll see how everything shakes out.”

    Yeah, that’s quite a controversial comment. I hope Frazier can put out this firestorm. Are you and Carl the same person?

    —-

    What? Carl? Carl Gerbschmidt? He isn’t even a real person.

  55. johnnytarr says: Jan 8, 2013 10:42 PM

    Later in the show they talked to safety Jamarca Sanford, who is Harvin’s friend & has had contact with him since he has been in Florida says he has no reason to doubt he’ll be back.
    But reporting that would make this story less interesting.

  56. pillowporkers says: Jan 9, 2013 10:04 AM

    MatthewCarlson:

    As a vikes fan, I hate to agree with you but I’m pretty sure the Patriots would love to let Welker go and get Percy. That makes their offense extremely hard to stop. I don’t think it COULD be stopped. I just hope the vikes can get a good pick, or a bundle of decent picks for him. Player for player trades are rare in the NFL.

  57. pillowporkers says: Jan 9, 2013 10:17 AM

    All the Vikings fans who hate on Ponder, please just go root for another team. I’m sick of you. This guy beat two of the best teams in the NFL WITH HIS ARM in week 16 and 17 in must win games (Yes, Andy Dalton had -6 yards passing at half with AJ Green two weeks after Ponder beat HOU). I don’t know if these fans don’t watch the game or what but it’s annoying. I’ve enjoyed this year as a Vikes fan as much as any other because of the low expectations. Even the most pessimistic Vikes fan could be crying about this season.

    1. The Vikings found our Head Coach
    2. Adrian Peterson came back better than ANYONE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF PROFESSIONAL SPORTS from an ACL injury.
    3. The Vikings had THE BEST DRAFT IN THE NFL this year. We drafted 3 potential perennial pro bowlers and 5 potential perennial starters. What more do you want?
    4. Christian Ponder showed signs of excellence and improvement, and he did it in the biggest games of the season. The last 3 games of the season Ponder had no picks against top defenses IN MUST WIN GAMES with Mike Jenkins and Jerome Simpson on the outside. He was CLUTCH. Did Cutler, Eli, or Freeman win their last 4 games to get in this year? Go look at Eli Manning, Matt Ryan, or Drew Brees’ second year stats and tell me Ponder is garbage. Educate yourself. What about Rodgers? Oh yeah he sat behind one of the best QBs in league history for 4 years, he’s not even playing in his second year. Why are so many Vikings fans so reluctant to give the guy a chance? Do you want us to fail? It makes no sense.

    So go root for another team pessimistic Vikes fans if you are going to bash your own after one of the most successful seasons in Vikings history. Keep up the good work Vikings!!

  58. rickytheviking says: Jan 15, 2013 5:46 PM

    Get rid of Ponder and keep Harvin

  59. secretbonus1 says: Feb 10, 2013 4:44 PM

    You guys crack me up, Ponder was obviously talking about when Harvin WAS on the field as in (before injury), not when he “was a Vikings” lol.
    Spielman himself when asked about it recently and said “we don’t trade good football players like Harvin”. He said “we feel like with Adrian and Harvin we have 2 MVP candidates out there”.

    Unless he’s just saying that to try to bump up his trade value, I don’t think Harvin is going anywhere.

  60. secretbonus1 says: Feb 10, 2013 4:57 PM

    There are so many rumors that we’ve heard that simply don’t pan out. This site used to be top notch until it started reporting anything and everything just because more content on the website drove traffic even if whatever posted was just a bunch of BS hype.

    I miss e old profootballtalk before it was run by NBC.

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