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Mixed reports on length of Griffin’s rehab

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As Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III undergoes surgery this morning to repair, reportedly, both the LCL and ACL in his right knee, there are different accounts regarding the amount of time he’ll miss.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, who expanded the torn-ligament alphabet by adding ACL to the prior report of a torn LCL, says that Griffin will need six-to-eight months to recover.  The Washington Post, citing a doctor who hasn’t treated or evaluated Griffin, says that the rehab time on an LCL tear can cover eight to 12 months.

The reality is that no one knows for sure how long it will, or won’t, take for Griffin to be ready to play again.  In many instances, professional athletes heal differently, and far more quickly, than normal people.  But there are all sorts of potential complications that can arise.  Apart from the ever-present risk of infection (which slowed Tom Brady’s rehab in 2008), an effort by the athlete to push too hard can create setbacks.

Griffin surely will be tempted to duplicate the uncanny comeback demonstrated in 2012 by Vikings running back Adrian Peterson.  But for every Peterson, who came back better than ever after a 2011 ACL tear, there’s a Domonique Foxworth, who never was the same after ACL surgery in 2010, and who is now out of the game.

It’s important that someone take charge of Griffin’s rehab and manage his expectations and keep him from trying to do too much too soon.  His stubbornness will at times serves him well.  But it also has helped get him into his current mess.

Looking at Griffin’s situation more broadly, his rapid ascension to D.C. superstardom arguably has created an atmosphere in which his extreme popularity has made folks already unwilling to tell him anything he doesn’t want to hear.  At some level, maybe that’s why coach Mike Shanahan didn’t pull Griffin from Sunday’s game after he clearly reinjured the knee.

It’s time now for someone far older than 22 to assume control of the situation, and to protect Griffin from his own desire to slam through any and all obstacles in his path.  There’s a point where the warrior mentality must yield to common sense.  While there’s a chance Griffin has very recently learned that lesson the hard way, the Redskins desperately need people in place who can help protect Griffin from himself once he is cleared to resume his football career.

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  1. ndizzl says: Jan 9, 2013 9:43 AM

    Hate to see anyone get hurt but this couldnt have happened to a better fan base. Back to the cellar Washington, especially without a first round pick for next 3 years. Karmas a bitch huh?

  2. crj202 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:45 AM

    Strausberg tommy jon all over again.. See you in 2014 RG3.. Thanks Shanny..Smh

  3. maddenisfordorks says: Jan 9, 2013 9:46 AM

    Hope the kid bounces back quick

  4. waitingguilty says: Jan 9, 2013 9:46 AM

    We are not even 72 hours post injury and this website has already proven it can’t cover this story with any degree of sanity. See ya in September.

  5. ill42 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:46 AM

    Well, it was fun while it lasted.

  6. skoobyfl says: Jan 9, 2013 9:46 AM

    Shanny probably has him penciled in for Easter camp already.

  7. getyourownname says: Jan 9, 2013 9:47 AM

    Here’s a rule I have come to use, it’s not perfect but works most of the time.

    Take whatever the Skins say, and assume the situation is twice as bad/takes twice as long/benefit is half as good/you get the picture.

  8. mjbulls45 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:47 AM

    move the skins back to RFK

    the fedex crowd was weak,

    no way wilson comes back from 14 points in a playoff home game @ RFK

    snyder shouldnt have moved the team to the middle of nowhere in Maryland

  9. nfldtw says: Jan 9, 2013 9:47 AM

    And you wonder why the people up the street benched Stephen Strasburg. It’s not worth betting the franchise for the short term.

    By the way is it still “manly” to play hurt. Guess what tough guy’s now he can’t play at all. Real sad… I’m a huge RGIII fan.

  10. clw1906 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:48 AM

    Yep I agree he definitely wanted to sit out the browns game and let cousins start. Yep you are 100% correct. Somehow I remember reports from this site doubting AP and his aggressive rehab.

  11. madpunter88 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:51 AM

    The Redskins will gladly perpetuate the 6-8 myth right now when season-tickets and luury suites are up for renewal…as excitement for next season rests largely on RG3. And they don’t have to say anything differently until next year when PUP designations come out.

    Isn’t it ironic that the team criticized for rushing him back from the initial injury is touting a recovery time from full knee reconstruction surgery that would be faster than any player in history?

    I would wager Kirk Cousins will take the majority, if not all, of the starts for the Redskins in 2013.

  12. fuglyflorio says: Jan 9, 2013 9:53 AM

    This is all terrible and sad. But it takes around 18 months to come back from this injury … and ‘back’ means a normal life. Not playing professional football.

    If they want to salvage RG3′s career then spend the time making him a pocket passer. Minimize his hits. Do the right thing. Because up to now the Redskins have done everything wrong.

  13. glennsyank13 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:54 AM

    Nice guy, but the hype is annoying. Just like Cam Newton last year before everyone decided he completely sucks. Can’t say I’m not enjoying this a little given how annoying the media is with overhyping players. And besides, the guy is set for life either way.

  14. ishallcomment says: Jan 9, 2013 9:55 AM

    6-8 months kinda sounds in the low-end for such a serious operation.

    The last thing you want to do is rush him back on before he’s ready….

    See what I did there?

  15. chaseutley says: Jan 9, 2013 9:55 AM

    Tebow time in Washington? C’mon, you know this is the type of thing Dan Snyder would do.

  16. tennesseeoilers says: Jan 9, 2013 9:59 AM

    Adrian Peterson’s return was absolutely stunning and unprecedented. That said, this injury is much worse than his. A complete LCL tear is more serious than a complete ACL tear and Griffin has both! Griffin’s entire 2013 could be shot even if he rehabs on schedule.

  17. gochargersgo says: Jan 9, 2013 9:59 AM

    Everyone needs to lose their title of “Captain Hindsight” and stop playing the blame game. Its a violent sport and injuries happen. There arent torn ACLs everytime someone plays in poor field conditions. Players play through injuries all the time and put themselves at further risk. Youd all be saying what a warrior RG3 is and what a ballsy decision it was by Shanny and the medical staff if they let him hang in there and the skins managed to win.

  18. dretwann says: Jan 9, 2013 9:59 AM

    It is clear no one in this organization is capable or has the testicular fortitude to do so. If they had it, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now. The coach is suppose to be the coach and make sure his guys are doing the smart thing and he is suppose to operate in a manner that is in the best interest of the team. I don’t know what his particular injury was but look at Ponder in Minnesota. They too were in a playoff game but he was hurt. Instead of forcing a bad situation, they played the backup. It didn’t work out but they didn’t sacrifice the future for the present. Shanny (and RG3) did. I am beginning to believe this team is cursed. Possibly out for an entire season?! And don’t know if that knee will be anywhere what it was before the injury? Cursed for sure.

    I wish I could pull for a different team. I really do. Living here in Bmore, it wouldn’t be difficult but I’ve been a Skins fan 35 years. I would as soon give up football before rooting for another team.

  19. slvrspec says: Jan 9, 2013 10:02 AM

    The skins will have him come back in less than 8 months saying “he’s good to go” only to get injured AGAIN during the season. I feel bad for the kid, he has a lot of talent but sadly he plays for an organization that doesn’t care much about the player’s health.

  20. dontouchmyjunk says: Jan 9, 2013 10:02 AM

    Fickle NFL. In 2011 the entire NFL culture was outraged and called Jay Cutler a … coward, I believe it was, for not adopting the warrior attitude in a playoff game. Now, those same name callers, including this site, are all indignant that RGIII did.

    You can’t have it both ways. It’s the culture of the chattering class that needs to change if you ask me. But nobody is.

  21. jwreck says: Jan 9, 2013 10:03 AM

    I coincidentally had an appointment with an orthopedist who consults with Andrews and the Redskins medical staff yesterday, and talked to him about the issue, a couple hours later, being a reliable authority on the subject, he went on the radio yesterday to discuss the issue and explained the situation exactly the same way.

    Though it is an extensive surgery, given the money that Snyder will spend on laser treatments, all-star physical therapy teams, and the best recovery options available, the Third’s recovery should be on the shorter side of six-to-eight months. Providing that Griffin follows doctors’ instructions and spends the next six months resting, rehabbing, and not trying to push himself too hard, his recovery time should be ready to go next season.

    Let’s hope one of those doctors’ instructions is “get out of bounds as soon as possible.”

  22. east96st says: Jan 9, 2013 10:03 AM

    “It’s time now for someone far older than 22 to take control of the situation, and to protect Griffin from his own desire to slam through any and all obstacles in his path.”

    Sounds like it’s time for dad to step in. As long as he still sees his son and not dollar signs, and all reports indicate that his dad is very well grounded, no one is going to be more concerned about his long term well being than his parents.

  23. eagleswin says: Jan 9, 2013 10:03 AM

    An LCL tear is worse than an ACL tear in terms of recovery. The initial reports when the LCL tear news came out was that it didn’t matter if the ACL was torn because it wouldn’t had to the already long LCL recovery time (8-12 mo).

    Then when the ACL news they started reporting the ACL recovery time and ignoring the LCL recovery time. I think it’s more wishful thinking and that if they said that Griffin was going to miss the entire 2013 season (12 month recovery) that there would be rioting in Washington.

  24. jimmysee says: Jan 9, 2013 10:03 AM

    … Also Redskins fans’ desire that be slam through all obstacles in his path to recovery and return.

    That may be the most difficult of all.

  25. wludford says: Jan 9, 2013 10:04 AM

    While it would be a good move to talk to AP’s doctors and look at what his rehab schedule was like, everyone is different.

    Having had an ACL before probably doesn’t help, but in any case RGIII should not rush back onto the field.

    Redskins should plan on Kirk Cousins starting most games next year.

  26. whatnojets says: Jan 9, 2013 10:06 AM

    I spoke with my local sanitation pick-up man and he told me that his professional opinion is that rehab could take over a year if not longer

    Guess every pro has different opinions!

  27. pixelito says: Jan 9, 2013 10:07 AM

    Griffin is not playing in 2013, and his career is in serious jeopardy.

  28. packerbadger says: Jan 9, 2013 10:07 AM

    2014 season he should be about 90% if all goes well.

  29. jimmysee says: Jan 9, 2013 10:09 AM

    Time to bring back Brett Favre. He’s had a full season off to rehab!

  30. lightcleric says: Jan 9, 2013 10:10 AM

    I can hear logicalvoice already…”Mara and the National Fixed League will do everything they can to sabotage RG3′s recovery”…

  31. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator says: Jan 9, 2013 10:10 AM

    There are much much more Foxworth’s that Peterson’s. Hopefully he will take all the necessary time and precautions. He is fun to watch, and has a bright future. I wouldn’t want him to shorten in.

  32. themokoda says: Jan 9, 2013 10:13 AM

    I could hardly agree more. Mike Shanahan and Robert Griffin III together have put at serious risk the legacy and legendary status of the phenomenon known as RG3.
    I love watching this guy play and he has such a great attitude, but it has now been revealed that he also has a dangerous arrogant streak that may wind up costing him a stellar career. Telling the coach he’s not injured? Declaring that he didn’t hurt his team “IN ANY WAY” by being in the game? Declaring further that “I’m the best option for this team”, even while hobbling and limping and skipping all over the field, unable to run or pass effectively? That’s arrogance in its purest form.
    I also respect Shanahan’s accomplishments as a coach. But, you let a 23-year-old ROOKIE make a decision to keep playing when you SEE he’s being seriously ineffective, and his limp is getting worse as the game progresses? Then you wait until he CAN’T get up, and the team is down by 10 with 6 minutes to go and the defense is on a roll, to put in Cousins?? As a professional NFL coach, Shanahan should have known Cousins stood NO chance. Had Cousins been in late in the 1st quarter, he would have been able to warm into the game, stuck with the game plan since they were leading, and maybe been able to affect the outcome.
    This was utter and inexcusable stupidity on both Shanahan’s and Griffin’s parts. When Griffin tweeted, “Many will talk and criticize and think they have all the answers, but few have been in the line of fire in battle.”, I knew exactly where that came from. I’ve been there myself. It’s that immaturity and pride that, when you know you’re wrong, and everyone else does too, you say things like that because you aren’t yet able to admit you made a mistake, so everybody else must not know what they are talking about. Regardless how this turns out, I guarantee that in 5 years, maybe longer, he will admit that on January 6, 2013, he made a serious mistake that either cost, or almost cost, his career.

  33. djcologne says: Jan 9, 2013 10:15 AM

    Heath “Jumbo” Schuler is ringing D-Snyd right now….

  34. hendawg21 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:16 AM

    And now everyone thinks they’re a doctor/journalist and experts on the healing time. You may have slept at a Holiday Inn last night but each every one of your opinions mean didily squat, everyone heals and recovers differently, everyone takes care of themselves totally different…so quit with all the over analyzing…if you remember all you so called journalistic doctors had AP’s recovery time all wrong…

    No matter the topic everything today is covered and reported in such high drama and negativity. Let it go just report the facts which were given to you, and not go out speculating on what your sources have told you because they aren’t doing the surgery, don’t truly know the case and are basing their opinions on medical journals etc.,

  35. Beezo-Doo-doo-Zippity-Bop-bop-bop says: Jan 9, 2013 10:17 AM

    mjbulls45, I noticed that too. The home crowd went silent as soon as the Hawks started coming back. Disgraceful. Back in the day RFK was the loudest, toughest place to go into and try to win a game. Hell, they didn’t even need seats as the crowd stood and screamed for three straight hours. Whatever happened to those fans?

  36. aaronmushrush says: Jan 9, 2013 10:18 AM

    RGIII tore both ligaments on December 9th. They were partially torn and Daniel Snyders personal physicians convinced RGIII the damage would not require surgery but that a revolutionary brace would stabilize the knee. The ironic thing is that if FedUP feild hadnt have been a circus feild for the last 9 years he may not have completley torn both ligaments. He should not have been out there in the first place. As an Eagles fan i know the skins have a very proud fan base and their current players and coaching staff with the exception of #23 are great guys. but their owner is a walking discgrace and the sight of him makes me sick. Skins fans deserve better and the NFC east deserves better. I am worried his greed is spreading as my Eagles are beginning to act very Snyder like.

  37. onereasonableman says: Jan 9, 2013 10:26 AM

    It is one thing to include this information in the news and rumors section, but really this is much more of an opinion piece. Florio, how do you know what is going on the inside of the organization?

  38. giants56 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:26 AM

    The Heisman QB Curse.

    Testeverde~ Disappointment
    Ware~ Bust
    Detmer~ Bust
    Toretta~ Bust
    Ward~ Bust~ Point guard
    Wuerffle~ Bust
    Weinke~ Bust
    Crouch~ Bust
    White~ Bust
    Leinert~ Bust
    T. Smith~ Bust
    Tebow~ Bust
    Bradford~ Bust
    Cam~?
    RG3~ Broken

    Need I say more?

  39. trojanwarrior007 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:29 AM

    time for him to learn to be a pure pocket passer. he can’t run around in the NFL with his body type. he’s not built like Cam Newton.

  40. oldirtyman says: Jan 9, 2013 10:30 AM

    I believe the injury started when the Steelers beat down the Skins early in the year, HAIL the Skins and their fair weather fan base

  41. isonic1 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:30 AM

    Lets not forget these guys are professional athletes. RG3 is only 22 years old (young recover quicker), he will have 7 days a week 8+ hours a day to rehab, and surrounded by the best* doctors / medicine money can buy. I believe the recovery estimates you read and hear are for the average citizen.

    RG3 will definitely be back next season, he may not start the season but he’ll be back to continue the his reign on the NFC East.

  42. h1ndrix says: Jan 9, 2013 10:32 AM

    It’s a shame. The Skins were well on their way to a complete dismantling of the Seahawks before he blew out his knee and they were let off the hook.

    He’ll be back for the 1st game next year and the Skins will dominate again.

  43. eatitfanboy says: Jan 9, 2013 10:32 AM

    First of all, the idea that their are “reports” about how long his rehab will take is silly. How can you report on something that hasn’t happened yet?

    No two injuries are exactly the same, and it is pointless to compare any two players recoveries.

    As for the injury itself, I am stunned by the amount of people who think it was OK to leave him in the game on Sunday. This is not hindsight. I told the people I was watching the game with that he was going to seriously injure it after I saw him come up about 10 yards short on that long pass he attempted early in the game. I predicted it would happen while he was running without even getting hit. I was close. And I am not saying I am any kind of expert- it was completely obvious that he was hurt pretty much from the beginning of the game.

    Unfortunately, he now becomes Robert Griffin III And His Surgically Repaired Right Knee. I hope for the best but fear the worst.

  44. jjb0811 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:34 AM

    gotta love that somehow a pro athlete has different muscle structure than a non athlete, not that gullible. It’s called ‘roids!

  45. timbuttrum says: Jan 9, 2013 10:34 AM

    Everyone is a doctor on here. It is what it is. AP came back from the same thing and RB is a far more stressful position on the body. Get well soon RGIII and don’t cut your rehab short to get on the field in September. Take the time you need to get to a full 100%.

  46. advocado5 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:37 AM

    So, RG3 = Joe Theisman. Except someone ended his career. RG3 had field conditions end his.

    Let’s ignore how long it will take for him to play. He won’t be the same.

    ever. again.

  47. rtant2013 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:41 AM

    This is all speculation, it went from partial tears to his ACL and LcL, to a torn LCL, to now a completely torn ACL and LCL. None of these media people were at Dr. Andrews office and none looked at his knee. Wait until someone actually knows what they’re talking about, instead of overhyping false reports. Just like the media to change stories 3-4 times in a 24 hour period. Get well soon Griffin.

  48. andyb053 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:43 AM

    ndizzl says:
    Jan 9, 2013 9:43 AM
    Hate to see anyone get hurt but this couldnt have happened to a better fan base. Back to the cellar Washington, especially without a first round pick for next 3 years. Karmas a bitch huh?
    ________________________________

    And why exactly did we “deserve” this? You think giving up a record amount of picks for a guy means that fans (or the franchise, for that matter) deserved to have him get hurt? I don’t get the reasoning.

  49. kev86 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:45 AM

    Eli Manning has 135 straight starts (146 if we are to include playoffs). I appreciate his durability and consider it an asset after seeing/reading bout this current injury to a highly drafted QB.

    The way Rodgers blends mobility with in the pocket accuracy/presence is very impressive even though I think he’s a little too arrogant. Hard to find.

  50. purpleguy says: Jan 9, 2013 10:48 AM

    A 6-8 month recovery on an LCL/ACL tear on a knee that previously had an ACL tear? Is the doctor that made that prediction still licensed?

  51. Stupid Raiders Fan says: Jan 9, 2013 10:54 AM

    Ask Peterson for his HGH hook up and he’ll be fine.

  52. 1oldpro says: Jan 9, 2013 10:55 AM

    Let him take as long as he needs. He is too valuable. You drafted Cousins to handle this kind of emergency.

  53. bolts0621 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:56 AM

    Bouncing back quicker generally works on a knee that suffered its first trauma – here you’re having to reconstruct a kne with trauma (an ACL tear) dating back 4 years that already had to be fixed….

    It’s 8-12 months.

  54. chattanola says: Jan 9, 2013 10:58 AM

    To me, it always better to take an optimistic view, but with torn ACL + LCL + total reconstruction, 6-8 months sounds overly optimistic.

    And dare anyone suggest that for the athletic activity Griffin is hoping to regain, the words “career ending” might apply here.

    Adrian’s performance didn’t involve repeatedly dropping back 5 steps then planting and throwing off of the injured leg.

    We could be watching a tragedy unfold…but I sure hope not.

  55. elliottcovert says: Jan 9, 2013 11:09 AM

    This is one of the advantages of stone-footed pocket passers like Tom Brady over dynamic playmakers like Griffin — although the loss of mobility is a real possibility and can definately hurt pocket passers, it’s not going to change the dynamic of their game or consequently the fortunes of thier team that much. With Griff on the other hand, it could really effect the offense they put in place this season.

  56. weizdumm says: Jan 9, 2013 11:10 AM

    Obviously his health and career far out weigh the feelings of we the fans. When it comes down to it, if this affects his career, he is the one that will have deal with the real life consequences of it.

    But from the perspective a life long Redskin fan, this is awful. With the draft picks the Skins gave up to get RGIII, if he can’t live up to the potential or standard he set in his rookie season because of this injury, the Redskins brief uprising to their past glory will be over and it will take years for the organization to recover.

    I can’t help but think of the Chicago Cubs of the early 2000s, when Prior and Wood were both coming on the scene together, pumping life and hope into an organization after years of losing, only to see both of their careers derailed by injuries.

  57. spartan822 says: Jan 9, 2013 11:11 AM

    There are times when an injury is minor enough that it doesn’t have to keep a player off the field. There are other times when an injured player has no business going back out on the field. Obviously the latter applies to RGIII’s situation.

  58. packerbadger says: Jan 9, 2013 11:16 AM

    MOST knee surgeries take about a yr to the day for most of the people I “know” for just basic arthroscopies. That medial meniscus and MCL are most likely pretty toasted as well. He’s having a reconstruct. Good thing is, is that he’s young and will have the best available rehab and be forced to do it; so his outcome will and should be quite a bit better than the average bear’s. Only thing is, is that that knee will NEVER be the same.

  59. dannyglover21 says: Jan 9, 2013 11:28 AM

    So James Andrews and Chris Mortensen are wrong, but Florio’s speculation is right? My fellow Redskins fans, please calm down. 20 years of futility has made us all very negative, but it’s time to stop being cynical. We’ve become accustomed to looking for the worst in everything, so it’s second nature to distrust. This kid is in the hands of one of the world’s best surgeons. He is a warrior, and he will be back.

  60. mungman69 says: Jan 9, 2013 11:31 AM

    RG3 should take the whole season off and be completely healed. This is his second injury to the same knee. It will take time to heal so he shouldn’t rush it.

  61. BeachBum46 says: Jan 9, 2013 11:33 AM

    waitingguilty says: Jan 9, 2013 9:46 AM

    We are not even 72 hours post injury and this website has already proven it can’t cover this story with any degree of sanity. See ya in September.
    ___________________________________
    LOL! Keep dreaming waitingguilty, this is his second ACL surgery since 2009. He’s not gonna be back by September.

  62. frenchy121212 says: Jan 9, 2013 11:38 AM

    Peterson set a standard that many other football players will live to regret. Fans and teams will say “Peterson did it and almost set rushing record. What’s wrong with player fill in the blank?”

  63. ndizzl says: Jan 9, 2013 11:40 AM

    andyb053: The reasoning is very simple. The redskins fan base is obnoxious and delusional. Anyone who reads this site knows that. When you talk as much smack as redskins fans do, you deserve everything that comes your way. I thought God was with the Redskins anyway. Hail to that losers.

  64. CowboyErik says: Jan 9, 2013 11:42 AM

    I wouldnt rush coming back; poor guy destroyed his leg and for his career speed and endurance is everything or he’ll be another Michael Vick

  65. jacobsladda says: Jan 9, 2013 11:44 AM

    poor kid he will never be the same

  66. jlove8128 says: Jan 9, 2013 11:45 AM

    I love how everyone talks out of their ass on this site. The lcl recovery is much shorter than acl recovery. The reason is the lcl has much better blood flow to it hence it heals much faster. Also when it comes to recovery for the acl, the surgery is the same it always was and he will have an excellent doctor. The advancement has come in the rehab over the last 12-24 months. This is why AP came back so quickly. So yeah he could be back in 8 months if everything goes as planned!

  67. hail88 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:03 PM

    Dizzy your real funny, you must be a cowgirl fan ! MJBulls
    Synder didn’t move the Skins to Landover, Jack Kent Cook
    did ! It is a shame what happened to Robert, hope he recovers ! Hail

  68. blueballz77 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:08 PM

    Umm any one hear from voiceofreason last report was that he was camped out in front of Dr. Andrews office with balloons and a teddybear

  69. solomon151 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:08 PM

    dontouchmyjunk says:
    Jan 9, 2013 10:02 AM
    Fickle NFL. In 2011 the entire NFL culture was outraged and called Jay Cutler a … coward, I believe it was, for not adopting the warrior attitude in a playoff game. Now, those same name callers, including this site, are all indignant that RGIII did.
    ————————————————–

    The difference is Cutler Quit. Plain and Simple. HE didnt want to get back out there in the fire. Thats a Coward. Griffin wouldnt quit. He wanted to be out there. Even when Shanny took him out he stood on the sideline. Cutler didnt. The problem is and i think most people on here feel the same way. A head Coach is suppose to protect their players. Make the hard choices. Griffin should not have been out there after half time. Period. Any player will tell you that their ok and can continue to play. But its on your coach to make a common sense decision to take him out.

  70. fearsome4 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:12 PM

    Hey, I heard the Rams are offering Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Isiah Pead, and a first round pick in the next two drafts for RG2.5. NOT. Man, the Rams look smart this morning.

  71. jwreck says: Jan 9, 2013 12:24 PM

    bolts0621 says: Jan 9, 2013 10:56 AM

    Bouncing back quicker generally works on a knee that suffered its first trauma – here you’re having to reconstruct a kne with trauma (an ACL tear) dating back 4 years that already had to be fixed….

    It’s 8-12 months.
    ____________
    Incorrect on just about every angle. LCL recovery, while longer than ACL recovery, is not an 8-12 month process. Medicine advances by leaps and bounds every year and Snyder will pull out all the stops in terms of getting Griffin the best treatments, the best physical therapy team, and the best continuing treatments (they can shoot lasers into your knee now to speed up the recovery process, I kid you not).

    Though people keep discussing AP in conjunction with Griffin, but a more relevant comparison may be Thomas Davis. The continually underestimated Panthers linebacker suffered three ACL tears and was seriously considering retirement before undergoing surgery by Andrews. Younger players heal faster, but even at a more advanced age Davis made a full recovery and is still going strong.

    Also let’s not forget, Andrews operated on Michael Jordan’s partially torn PCL in the early 90′s. I know it was a long time ago, but I think that guy did OK for himself.

  72. robdolphins says: Jan 9, 2013 12:26 PM

    I wish him a speedy & full recovery. But, this shows why you should not put so many draft picks in one basket. Any single player is 1 play from being done or at least missing a lot of games. Spread those picks out among several quality prospects to lessen the risk. I know some will say they want their team to go all in to land a great player, but I prefer landing 3 1st rounders with a chance to be quality players.

  73. cswilliams1906 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:26 PM

    i can not believe how many of yall and other people happy he got hurt. what the hell is wrong with people like yall. he runs to much but if andrew luck runs he is the best thing in the world this is so freaking rediculous. some of yall need to grow up. this remind me when Sean Taylor died there were stupid people like some of yall that was glad he died dont make sense to me. is it because he play for the redskins or because yall dont like him. this is so wrong in many ways but hey thats they way some of yall are….

  74. praetorian12 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:27 PM

    RGIII’s rehab is going to be irrelevant if they don’t fix that darn field. Imagine if Alfred Morris goes down with a ACL in week five.

    Best wishes to RGII’s recovery, but please fix that d#RN field!!!

  75. mogogo1 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:27 PM

    Wow, who to believe? ESPN’s Chris Mortensen citing somebody who probably can’t read an aspirin bottle …or an actual doctor?

    Highly bad form for the Skins to try and spin a quicker-than-possible recovery. First they let him play when he probably shouldn’t, then they press for him to come back sooner than he should? A grown-up needs to step in for the Skins and stop the madness.

  76. 25cuts says: Jan 9, 2013 12:30 PM

    I feel bad for him, as an eagles fan I enjoy watching him play. But I feel good about the obnoxious redskin fans lol at you. Oh and in all of this the lost fact is that with a 14-0 lead at home and a hobbled RG, the 2nd leading rusher in the league got 16 carries, TOTAL. Serves you right skins fans lol

  77. jwreck says: Jan 9, 2013 12:36 PM

    jwreck says: Jan 9, 2013 10:03 AM

    I coincidentally had an appointment with an orthopedist who consults with Andrews and the Redskins medical staff yesterday, and talked to him about the issue, a couple hours later, being a reliable authority on the subject, he went on the radio yesterday to discuss the issue and explained the situation exactly the same way.

    Though it is an extensive surgery, given the money that Snyder will spend on laser treatments, all-star physical therapy teams, and the best recovery options available, the Third’s recovery should be on the shorter side of six-to-eight months. Providing that Griffin follows doctors’ instructions and spends the next six months resting, rehabbing, and not trying to push himself too hard, his recovery time should be ready to go next season.

    Let’s hope one of those doctors’ instructions is “get out of bounds as soon as possible.”
    ________
    A number of folks seem not to believe me. Look it up for yourself: Dr. Matthew Levine, the interview was on WTOP around 3 PM yesterday, and repeated on WFAN later in the evening.

  78. crp63 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:39 PM

    mjbulls45 says: Jan 9, 2013 9:47 AM

    move the skins back to RFK

    the fedex crowd was weak,

    no way wilson comes back from 14 points in a playoff home game @ RFK

    snyder shouldnt have moved the team to the middle of nowhere in Maryland

    They were playing there before Snyder bought the team….another typical dumb PFT poster

  79. wopgenius says: Jan 9, 2013 12:46 PM

    He blew his knee out in the Ravens game. I believe that both ligaments were torn and the doctor told them he couldn’t do any more damage to the knee than what was there. Knowing this, both RG3 and Shanahan made the the decision to put a brace on it and make the push to win.

    He didn’t injure it further on Sunday, it just got to the point that the brace wasn’t helping anymore.

  80. montegmen says: Jan 9, 2013 12:46 PM

    Where is logicalvoice? the fool! One and done in playoffs and you are comparing the deadskins to the GMEN…LOL…now you have a QB that couldn’t even last one season! Eli rules…146 starts in a row..its not a sprint…slow and steady wins race!!!! GMEN!!!!!

  81. tcskins says: Jan 9, 2013 12:54 PM

    ndizzl says:Jan 9, 2013 9:43 AM

    Hate to see anyone get hurt but this couldnt have happened to a better fan base. Back to the cellar Washington, especially without a first round pick for next 3 years. Karmas a bitch huh?
    ——————————————-

    So the first comment out of the box comes from somebody who knows nothing. 3 years? Wow, who knew? I think you’d better check your “facts”
    So without TWO first round draft picks TOTAL in the next TWO years…that’s it, throw in the towel…I mean, ONE 2013 player acquired in the first round was everything the Skins needed…ONE rookie. Wow! It looks like all of those other teams who have a first round pick in 2013 will be Super Bowl contenders….of all of the stupid things said about this trade, that is the one which cracks me up the most.

  82. FeedtheOldtotheYoung says: Jan 9, 2013 12:54 PM

    6 to 8 months is optimistic.

    Disregard Adrian Peterson’s miraculous comeback, and it will take 9 months, minimum, to get to 90%. The last 10%, including psychological, takes up to 18 months.

    In addition, RG3 has already (a) had a previously torn RIGHT ACL, and (b) had the RIGHT patellar tendon was previously harvested. His articular (cartilage) surfaces isn’t going to look (or feel) very good by the time he’s 35.

    We’ll be reading about RG3 and microfracture, PRP, and/or Orthokine in the near future.

  83. jammer73 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:56 PM

    Yay, more news on RG Knee. Time to get some popcorn.

  84. bengals69 says: Jan 9, 2013 12:57 PM

    Actually from what I’ve read RGIII doesn’t have a torn ACL since his was replaced back in 2009 when it was torn and replaced with a tendon. So its possible that the tendon partially tore. An ACL on the other hand is fully intact or shredded due to the great tension it always has whether the knee is at rest or in motion.

    The question is would the surgeon stitch it back up or fully replace it?

    The other question is there meniscus damage to the knee cartilege and was his meniscus damaged in 2009? This will impact his return too because he can’t play any sports without a functioning meniscus.

    All in all a tragedy for RGIII. This should never have happened and all the signs were there that he was heading for a major knee injury long before it gave out. Given he already suffered an ACL tear in 2009 he and his parents should have known after his first knee injury a month or so ago that caution was the wise course.

  85. ndizzl says: Jan 9, 2013 1:21 PM

    Tcskins: At least get your facts straight when trying to correct someone. The redskins did in fact give up 3 first round picks to move to no.2 spot in the draft. So your point is?

  86. andyb053 says: Jan 9, 2013 1:26 PM

    @ndizzl

    Talking smack doesn’t mean people deserve bad things to happen to them, especially a good person like RG3. I might add that if you are specifically talking about Redskins fans who read this site, then you are talking about one particular obnoxious fan, not the entire group. I frankly question whether he is a Skins fan or a Cowboys fan trying to create the exact negative feelings you have towards our fan base. If so, it’s clearly working. Lastly, there’s no need to ever reference the whole “God is with the Redskins” comment ever again. Any reasonable person knows RG3 wasn’t serious when he said that.

  87. kurmudge says: Jan 9, 2013 1:49 PM

    The LCL would normally heal without surgery- if you are going in anyway, you can tack it down so that rehab doesn’t slow the healing process.

    The ACL can’t be repaired if it is “partially torn”- think of trying to stitch together the head ends of two mops with all the individual strands, and do it under aircraft cable tension, plus the fact that there is no real blood supply inside the joint capsule to help it heal.

    There is nothing about the surgery by itself that makes his recovery any worse, depending on the repair technique used. The trick is that he has had the surgery before, so if they did an autograft the first time using either the hamstring or the central third of the patellar ligament to replace the ACL, that tissue is no longer available this time around. Thus, I am guessing that they might use a cadaver donor for the ligament allograft- and that shortens the rehab time. The trick is getting the proprioception back for a guy who has running moves.

  88. wyobroncoboy says: Jan 9, 2013 1:58 PM

    He just needs to get A.P. to be his personal trainer. He will be ready for July Camps :)

  89. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jan 9, 2013 10:02 PM

    “He will play in the first regular season game no matter what”. Sincerely, Mike Shanahan

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