Comments on: Manti Te’o looks like a first-round pick, but Alabama game will hurt

By: cometkazie

cometkazie — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 20:24:56 +0000

meanfastgood says:
Jan 12, 2013 3:31 AM

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JaMarcus failed as a pro because he didn’t have the intangibles – work ethic, IQ, leadership, determination, etc. – and he didn’t have enough talent to overcome these weaknesses.
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Just about every LSU fan knew this and the Raiders drafted him #1.

Why? I guess cuz they were the Raiders.

By: meanfastgood

meanfastgood — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:31:57 +0000

JaMarcus had a great game against a college team. Why? Because he was physically superior to college players.

JaMarcus failed as a pro because he didn’t have the intangibles – work ethic, IQ, leadership, determination, etc. – and he didn’t have enough talent to overcome these weaknesses.

Manti had a bad game against a great college team. Why? Because he didn’t have the physical talent to compete. He has the intangibles. But intangibles mean nothing if you don’t have the physical ability.

Best thing for Manti is to drop into the 3rd round. No expectations and he can build his confidence over time.

By: raideralex99

raideralex99 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:41:58 +0000

Hey remember when JaMarcus had a great bowl game against ND?
It’s only one game people.

By: ohiobears

ohiobears — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:30:03 +0000

If chicago keeps McClellin on the Edge opposite of Pep he won’t last past 20 replacing Urslacker.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:47:57 +0000

vincentbojackson says: Jan 11, 2013 4:05 PM

Is there a more tired response than those that use the word “hater” to describe someone that doesn’t agree with them?
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No, there isn’t. Tried hard to think of one, but there isn’t one currently in existence. Funniest is fans who are newfound to being in big games (this entire generation of Redskins fans whose lives have consisted of terrible teams, for example) who brag and gloat every day, then their teams lose or are eliminated and become so defensive that they call everyone who isn’t doing snow jobs on their teams a “hater”.

By: raiderredleg

raiderredleg — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:30:47 +0000

A name for anyone who “falls” in love with a MLB and wants your team to take him with a high pick:

Rolando McClain

I will admit I thought it was a good pick for the Raiders (and if I remember right several Giant fans wanted him also that year). Can’t remember what Mayock said about him, but it several draft experts bought into the crap that Saban said about him (team leader/film junkie) and for an Al Davis pick, several folks approved.

However it was a disaster for the franchise (not quite the JaMarcus Russell instead of Calvin Johnson, but close) and every bad 1st rounder take years to fix (see Kansas City Chiefs love affairs with taking DTs in the first round…Especially ones from LSU).

I was hoping Te’o would be there for the Raiders at #3 but now I thinking DT/DE or the stud OT from A&M if he falls that far (don’t think he will).

You can’t EVER have enough good OL or DL…Heck Nagata added five more productive years to the back end of Ray Lewis’ career and I am sure Peyton Manning is happy to have Clady watching his backside in Denver.

By: vincentbojackson

vincentbojackson — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 21:05:08 +0000

Is there a more tired response than those that use the word “hater” to describe someone that doesn’t agree with them?

By: rayguyreturns

rayguyreturns — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 20:06:14 +0000

The first ND game I watched was this BCS game. The guy looked like a deer in the headlights to me. He couldn’t tackle anything.
But of course the last “sure thing” from a BCS game I saw was JaMarcus Russell and Rolando McClain, and we know how those observations turned out.

By: whitdog23

whitdog23 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:41:42 +0000

ray maleluga cline. absolutely no difference… slow and late to everything. still better than some but not all

By: cometkazie

cometkazie — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 19:39:51 +0000

The Tide offensive people saw a weakness and exploited it.

Perhaps with NFL caliber people around him, he will do a lot better.

He seems to be a good kid with a lot of character. If so, he knows playing in the NFL is not an end in itself.

All the best to him.

By: franklamar

franklamar — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:50:32 +0000

I think he is a 4 round draft pick.he is a notch below average.The hype helped him and mayock is being kind to him.He will not go till the 3rd are 4th round…just watch

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:47:28 +0000

My fellow Giants fans, please stop it. There are several other LBs who are way better. And he is not going to usurp Blackburn to play Mike. Not fast enough to play Sam or Will. Reese will make the right move — i.e. the kid Jones from UGA or Vince Williams from FSU — if he drafts a LB.

By: bobwheel

bobwheel — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:40:28 +0000

Mayock asks the observer to examine T’eo’s body of work over the past 4 years. He was impressive at times, but against usually inferior opponents. He played like he was wearing cement shoes against Alabama, which has the type of players he will see at the next level. I think his performance the other night greatly hurt his position in the draft.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:33:13 +0000

And I am a Yankee fan, and I hate many Yankee fans because they’re like you.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:32:46 +0000

I have no envy. I am a Florida State fan, and no, you don’t get to bring up the 1940s and 50s to try and counter it. Have no reason to envy Notre Dame. The Stepfan Taylor was in the end zone and that was no pass interference on Pitt on 4th and 10 against Eifert. Then again, facts are often lost on Notre Dame fans who are still coming to grips with their program being relevant for the first time in 20 years.

By: ihatelogicalvoicesays

ihatelogicalvoicesays — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:31:55 +0000

let him fall to the Giants we need an actual lb caughlin will coach this kid to be a solid player

By: egomaniac247

egomaniac247 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:29:19 +0000

No one’s noting that the irony of all this is that dropping in the late 1st round is actually a blessing for some guys.

Going in the top 10 means you’re going to the bad teams. Teams where you can be exposed because of the lack of talent elsewhere on the roster.

Now imagine dropping to the Ravens, Packers, Patriots, Steelers, 49ers, Giants of the league.

Better coaching, better talent, and better chance to succeed.

By: thepftpaperchase

thepftpaperchase — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:26:31 +0000

weekendatberniemadoffs says: Jan 11, 2013 12:55 PM

Te’o < Kuechly
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And it's not even close.

By: justintuckrule

justintuckrule — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:23:55 +0000

We haven’t drafted a diesel MLB since Harry Carson a generation ago. I’ll take him.

By: bengaltillidie

bengaltillidie — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:18:40 +0000

eventhorizon04 and Mr. Wright you confirm what I said about envy. The media loves ND and that is hard for a lot of people to take. Just like the Yankees, easy to love or hate.

By: cebig

cebig — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:15:54 +0000

I would love to see him in black and yellow!

His d-line did nothing to eat up blockers. Nobody on the line commanded two ‘bama linemen.

By: theralph2012

theralph2012 — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:15:23 +0000

I’d take him in Buffalo, the Bills linebackers couldn’t cover anbody this year, and Te’o had 7 picks. With our D-line, the tackles will come, I’m for it.

By: jdoberman

jdoberman — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:08:11 +0000

Saw this on twitter seems like it belongs here:

“Manti Te’o translated to English means Brian Bosworth.”

By: sactogary

sactogary — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:58:34 +0000

Maybe Spurrier was right…

By: weekendatberniemadoffs

weekendatberniemadoffs — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:55:28 +0000

Te’o < Kuechly

By: getweird4u

getweird4u — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:47:07 +0000

“widely regarded as the best defensive player in college football” rotflmao not by anyone who has a clue! Clowney is the best Defensive player in NCAA i think that everyone knows that hell he isn’t even the best LB coming out this year Jarvis Jones UGA

By: andyoursistertoo

andyoursistertoo — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:40:44 +0000

It’s hard to say , his job was easier with the big boys up front . Linebackers jobs are easy when you have really good defensive tackles in front to keep the lineman off you. So really your performance is solely judged in instincts and tackling which he had a really bad game against nfl type competition. That being said he had the right intangibles leadership and football iq you want from a teammate. If still draft him high but not top 15 . Give bamas offensive line credit they were the real reason he looked bad

By: tatatoothy

tatatoothy — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:40:28 +0000

I really don’t mean to bash, but aren’t all Notre Dame players over the last 10-15 years overrated?

By: pooflingingmonkey

pooflingingmonkey — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:39:34 +0000

He’ll be the next Rey Maualuga. Overrated.

By: steelerben

steelerben — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:37:44 +0000

I think that him dropping to a low first round pick is the best thing that could happen to him. Low picks mean competitive teams. Bring him into sit behind someone that is a shining star but on their way out of the league. Get him strength training and conditioning at the NFL level with a good LB coach and then let him loose on the league in his second season.

I could see him plugging into the Steelers behind Larry Foote, but there are too many other needs on the team to take him in the first round.

Baltimore, Dallas, Buffalo, and New York (Jets) would all benefit from having a MLB with his level of talent and leadership.