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Pro Football Hall of Fame finalists announced

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The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced its list of 15 finalists Friday morning, a group which will be whittled to no more than five inductees the day before the Super Bowl.

The group includes four first-time eligible nominees: Guard Larry Allen, tackle Jonathan Ogden, defensive tackle Warren Sapp and defensive end Michael Strahan.

It also includes last year’s 10 finalists who missed the final cut: Running back Jerome Bettis, wide receivers Tim Brown, Cris Carter and Andre Reed, guard Will Shields, defensive end Charles Haley, linebacker Kevin Greene, cornerback Aeneas Williams along with Bill Parcells and Ed DeBartolo, Jr.

 The 15th finalist is former Browns owner Art Modell.

That means the 12 semifinalists (it’s normally 10, but two extras advanced on ties) who did not advance included: Kicker Morten Andersen, safety John Lynch, cornerback Albert Lewis, safety Steve Atwater, coach Don Coryell, running backs Roger Craig and Terrell Davis, tackle Joe Jacoby, linebacker Karl Mecklenburg, former commissioner Paul Tagliabue, special teamer Steve Tasker and executive George Young.

Two senior nominees — former Chiefs and Oilers nose tackle Curley Culp and former Packers and Redskins linebacker Dave Robinson— are voted upon separately, for a maximum class of seven.

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  1. prince5000 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:37 AM

    Larry Allen and Jonathan Ogden are no brainers.

  2. jhein23 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:38 AM

    It’s good John Lynch didn’t advance if he’s a HOF so is Leroy Butler and Darren Woodson who were better players.

  3. 1bbfan says: Jan 11, 2013 9:39 AM

    Andre Reed should get in.

  4. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator says: Jan 11, 2013 9:39 AM

    Goodell will never let Tagliabue in… Also Cris Carter and Tim Brown better make it this time.

  5. randysstraightcash says: Jan 11, 2013 9:41 AM

    Time to get CC into the hall. His numbers don’t lie, but those who talk against him because of his persona do.

  6. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 11, 2013 9:42 AM

    Sapp and Strahan are no brainers…

  7. bucrightoff says: Jan 11, 2013 9:43 AM

    If Warren gets in, do the repo men get his yellow blazer?

  8. dezmick says: Jan 11, 2013 9:43 AM

    If Art Modell gets elected, will he have the guts to return to Ohio and give an acceptance speech in open public?

  9. bartlettruss says: Jan 11, 2013 9:43 AM

    Haley, Parcells and Strahan belong in the hall of fame. I think Chris Carter does too. Sadly, these things are voted on by people with agendas.

  10. jagsfan1 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:45 AM

    Chris Carter deserves it.

  11. sirgrinsley says: Jan 11, 2013 9:45 AM

    Ogden and Haley are the only ones deserving. Jerome bettis? Really? Maybe belongs in Pitt HOF

  12. tpa43 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:45 AM

    Morten Andersen is the NFL’s all-time leading scorer and was thought to be a shoe-in and he didn’t get pass the first round? Who votes for this stuff? Are kickers not permitted to be in the Hall of Fame?

  13. dohpey28 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:47 AM

    boggles the mind how Andre Reed keeps making the cut. He was very good, but nowhere near great.

  14. mavajo says: Jan 11, 2013 9:50 AM

    My picks:

    Michael Strahan
    Jonathan Ogden
    Larry Allen
    Will Shields
    Bill Parcells

  15. flash1283 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:50 AM

    No way John Lynch should be in the HOF.

  16. Jimbo says: Jan 11, 2013 9:51 AM

    If Art Modell gets in, the HOF is a sham.

  17. riggo08 says: Jan 11, 2013 9:51 AM

    I know there are haters out there, but Modell deserves to be in the HOF. He did a lot to bring the game into the modern era and broke the race barrier with his hiring practices. The man is gone, let his legacy live on. Peace.

  18. hawkfanwtf says: Jan 11, 2013 9:53 AM

    Charles Haley, Cris Carter, Art Modell, Jonathan Ogden, Warren Sapp

  19. footballhistorian says: Jan 11, 2013 9:53 AM

    This is getting as bad as the “Rock & Roll” HOF. Of course that should be expected seeing as a bunch of ignorant writers are the ones that do the voting. The only ones I see as worthy are Coryell, Jacoby,Parcells and maybe Chris Carter. Sapp should NEVER be consider given the cheap shot artist that he was. DeBartolo should be given status of Capo Tutti in SF. The rest, while very good performers, didn’t stand out to the extent that they should be memorialized.

  20. Mitch Cumstein says: Jan 11, 2013 9:54 AM

    If the voters’ memories of Sapp the player are getting clouded by more recent memories of Sapp the analyst, that doesn’t bode well for his candidacy.

  21. chiefnofoldem says: Jan 11, 2013 9:54 AM

    There is one name that should be on that list and its completely wrong. That name is Steve Sabol.

    Without Steve Sabol and his father, the NFL would not be as popular as it is today. There is no reason for Steve Sabol to keep out of the Hall of Fame.

  22. Ashley says: Jan 11, 2013 9:54 AM

    What? Andersen should be in the hall.

  23. shackdelrio says: Jan 11, 2013 10:00 AM

    The NFL Hall of Fame, or the Museum for Football Players That Were Friendly to Sports Writers. Guys like Charles Haley and Cris Carter should already be in.

    I am sure that Bettis and Strahan get in this year and Carter and Haley do not. Sapp has no chance.

  24. firstand4ever says: Jan 11, 2013 10:00 AM

    I am putting in Charles Haley,Bill Parcells, Aeneas Williams,Jonathan Ogden and Larry Allen.

    Those 4 players were dominant players. Arguably the very best at their positions when they were playing. The other finalists are all hall of fame worthy but they were never the best player at their position in any given year.

  25. stoogy says: Jan 11, 2013 10:01 AM

    They need to let all three WR get in. Get it over with.

  26. talkingproud says: Jan 11, 2013 10:01 AM

    As a Bills fan I would love to see Andre Reed finally make in the HOF. He deserves it!

    As a football fan I hope Warren Sapp does not get in. He was a good player but his mouth, attitude and actions, especially since retiring prove him unworthy of such a high honor. Be satisfied with just the nomination, Warren!

  27. paepae805 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:01 AM

    So does this mean we can hear Cris Carter cry one more year on why he wasn’t voted him. Some one better give him a tissue now.

  28. raysfan1 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:02 AM

    17 finalists total, and there are at least 10 less deserving than Ray Guy, who wasn’t even a semifinalist. Great.

  29. riverhorsey says: Jan 11, 2013 10:02 AM

    Coryell should of been in years ago.

  30. jbaxt says: Jan 11, 2013 10:03 AM

    Sapp is no 1st balloter in my book. Ogden, Strahan, Allen all are. Then add Shields and Reed.

  31. tcostant says: Jan 11, 2013 10:04 AM

    Where is Ray Guy?

  32. skunkgoosefly says: Jan 11, 2013 10:04 AM

    That’s a pretty even group to me. Completely subjective but for me I would definitely choose Carter, Strahan, Brown, and Green.

  33. eastcoastninerfan says: Jan 11, 2013 10:04 AM

    Ridiculous that Cris Carter isn’t in…there will be several great players that won’t make it this year but how can he be held out? There are some that I’m personally rooting for (Haley and Craig as I’m obviously biased as a Niner fan) but Carter should be in.

    Unless catching touchdowns was a bad thing

  34. mavajo says: Jan 11, 2013 10:04 AM

    Not sure Cris Carter belongs in the Hall anyway. In his 15 year career, he was an All Pro only once. The guy played for 15 years, and only one time was he even considered the best wide receiver in the league at that time. That’s Hall of Fame worthy? *shrugs*

  35. dcfan4life says: Jan 11, 2013 10:05 AM

    Id bet the class of 2013 is Michael Strahan, Jonothan Ogden, Chris Carter, and Bill Parcells. But guessing who makes it is as hard as picking lottery numbers…

  36. discosucs2005 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:06 AM

    With no other RB Bettis might have a shot (5th all time for yards when he retired). Larry Allen is one of the most dominating players of his era, and should get in. As a Niner fan, pulling for Ed Debartlo Jr.

  37. originalsteelcurtain says: Jan 11, 2013 10:09 AM

    I hope the overrated mental-midget Warren Sapp is left out..every year unil he fades into oblivion.

  38. tooz72 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:10 AM

    Tim Brown had like 8 different QBs and 10 different offensive coordinators and still put up all those numbers..he definitely belongs as does Carter

  39. jonasgrumbyoftx says: Jan 11, 2013 10:10 AM

    This long time Packer fan just wants to see CC get in.

  40. cjspiller12 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:10 AM

    I hope Reed finally get’s in this year. Also hoping one day if they take a special teamer that Steve Tasker get’s in………….best special teamer ever!! Bates for the Cowboys was a great special teamer too, but I would still take Steve Tasker over him. Good luck this year Andre!!!

  41. castleofcheese says: Jan 11, 2013 10:13 AM

    What does Leroy Butler have to do to get some love?

  42. dohpey28 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:15 AM

    Tim Brown was better then Cris Carter who was better then Andre Reed. Brown needs to make it before Carter, and Reed doesn’t deserve it.

  43. bullcharger says: Jan 11, 2013 10:15 AM

    They have to start letting in some WRs or taking them off the ballot… There’s a massive pile-up coming and it’s going to get worse. Maybe both Brown and Carter should go in. They both have the all time numbers.

    Owens, Moss, Harrison, Bruce, Holt, Ward… You could argue a few of those, but most should go in. Then you have Megatron, Johnson, Wayne, Fitzgerald and possibly Welker, all coming. I’m sure I missed some too. Lots of tough decisions coming and some of these guys will wait a long time.

  44. vmannj says: Jan 11, 2013 10:17 AM

    Some would argue that the reason Emmitt Smith is the all-time leading rusher is because he had one of the best O-lines ever. If that’s true, shouldn’t his best O-lineman be in the HOF?

    Larry Allen, 2013.

  45. jhein23 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:18 AM

    If Warren Sapp gets elected will they show his hit on Chad Clifton in his HOF video montage? And his ‘put a jersey’ on reaction after the game? They should

  46. timbuttrum says: Jan 11, 2013 10:21 AM

    As much as I dislike Chris Carter, he should have been in a long time ago.

  47. jjgmrg901 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:21 AM

    First off, Mr. Art Modell will not be giving any speeches anywhere of if he does then look out. Also Carter and Sapp are only on everyone’s radar because they are on tv all the time. Of course Strahan is in the same boat but he deserves it. Integral component of two Super Bowl teams and on winning on. Also not only a great pass russher but one of the best against the run.

  48. drtharrison says: Jan 11, 2013 10:25 AM

    And how many of these guys went to the Pro Bowl six times as an offensive lineman? And the first and last of those six were a decade apart, showing long term consistency…Jacoby? Nope. But Bob Kuechenberg got shafted all these years… pathetic.

  49. kingdm8 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:25 AM

    It blows my mind that some people let a player’s personality off the field dictate what they think of their HOF credentials. Warren Sapp should EASILY be in the HOF. He was as dominant a defensive lineman as there was in the league for a number of years. Yeah, he’s a pompous blowhard. That shouldn’t diminish what he was on the field, even though it will.

    Aeneas Williams, on the other hand, is the polar opposite of Sapp. He was a quiet superstar on HORRIBLE Cardinals teams. But, he was up there with Deion Sanders as one of the best cornerbacks of that era. He was an eight time Pro Bowler, four time first team All Pro, once second team All Pro, member of the NFLs team of the 90s, etc. That guy needs to be in this year.

  50. bartlettruss says: Jan 11, 2013 10:25 AM

    There is one name that should be on that list and its completely wrong. That name is Steve Sabol.

    Without Steve Sabol and his father, the NFL would not be as popular as it is today. There is no reason for Steve Sabol to keep out of the Hall of Fame.

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    I agree with you completely. Steve and his father may have meant more to the NFL than any other two people. They created the lasting mythology and grandeur with which the game is now associated. Ed is already in. Now that Steve is gone it’s time to induct him too.

  51. bcjim says: Jan 11, 2013 10:26 AM

    I can’t believe people think Strahan is HOF material. Seriously?

    And since FOuts, Joiner, and Winslow or HOFers, I think that is strong evidence Coryell should be too.

    Otherwise the 3 O-line listed should be in.
    Allen, Ogden, Jacoby

    Jacoby was in 4 SBs (won 3) for crying out loud…4x pro bowl 2x all-pro 1st team. NFL all decade team. What else does he have to do?

  52. isphet71 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:26 AM

    The HOF should have one induction set aside for either a kicker or punter every year. Just add it to the current process. That would let kickers/punters get in without making voters feel like they were “wasting” an induction on a specialty player.

    Carter, Strahan, and Anderson deserve to be in because they had long, productive careers AND great individual seasons AND hold meaningful records for their positions.

  53. jrebar88 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:26 AM

    Broncos getting snubbed, once again. No respect from anyone

  54. tombreck says: Jan 11, 2013 10:27 AM

    dezmick says:

    If Art Modell gets elected, will he have the guts to return to Ohio and give an acceptance speech in open public?
    _______________________

    Being that his carcass has been rotting in hell for a few months if he did show up I’d probably let him in.

    That said the only ones that were truly great and should be there are nonplayers, Parcells, Tagliabue and Coryell.

  55. john4psu says: Jan 11, 2013 10:35 AM

    I thought Dave Robinson played for the Packers. How many years did he play in Green Bay and in Washington?

  56. bkostela says: Jan 11, 2013 10:37 AM

    they should have a separate ballot for coaches, owners, and media personnel. or not even a ballot at all (if they are deserving just vote yay or nay to let them in) but how can ed debartolo take the place of the likes of cris carter? how many touchdowns did eddie have? take him off that list and put morten lava andersen in the mix.

  57. natesmith2013 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:38 AM

    To not put Will Shields in, who was an 8-TIME ALL-PRO, and a 12 time pro bowler, would be a joke.

  58. insanelomein2 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:38 AM

    Im suprised Lynch is on the ballot. Never saw him as HOF in my eyes.

  59. killitandeatit says: Jan 11, 2013 10:39 AM

    Wow, really seeing the East Coast Sports bias again. Charles Haley #1 pick ,#2 Tim Brown,#3 Chris Carter.
    These 3 individuals were in the dog house, for various reasons, with their teams but didn’t back down on who they were or how they played. Sad to see these rebels get screwed every year by the same ruling elite mentality of the NFL.

  60. southpaw2k says: Jan 11, 2013 10:43 AM

    chiefnofoldem says:
    Jan 11, 2013 9:54 AM
    There is one name that should be on that list and its completely wrong. That name is Steve Sabol.

    Without Steve Sabol and his father, the NFL would not be as popular as it is today. There is no reason for Steve Sabol to keep out of the Hall of Fame.

    ————————————————-

    Completely agree, though I wonder what the rules are in Sabol’s case as to when he would qualify for induction into the Hall of Fame. Are there any precedents similar to Sabol who could give an idea as to when he could be inducted?

  61. jaker1967 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:46 AM

    Jim Marshall passed over again! How long before the veterans committee can get him in?

  62. rayguyreturns says: Jan 11, 2013 10:47 AM

    Curley Culp should be in. He was a beast in his day.

  63. md228010 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:47 AM

    James Lofton made it in.. I can’t see why Andre Reed wouldnt. Remember the Bills on Super Tecmo Bowl.. Charles Haley has what, 5 Super Bowl rings.. Larry Allen was a beast too. Cris Carter caught a lot of TD’s and balls, might make it but doubtful. Ogden beast. Heck Morten Anderson was/is regarded as the best, let a kicker in.

  64. cometkazie says: Jan 11, 2013 10:47 AM

    Admission to the Hall of Fame is overrated.

    What is the difference between a really good player and one that made enough impact to be HoF?

  65. jhawkfan says: Jan 11, 2013 10:51 AM

    Curly Culp deserves to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He was a valuable member of the Kansas City Chiefs defense for several years.

  66. scoobies05 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:51 AM

    to all of you so called football experts….art modell passed away last year. might be nice for you all to have a clue as to what you are talking about before you post comments. and as far as him being in the hof…its a no brainer. he helped create tv deals and monday nite football.

  67. rhinosteel6 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:53 AM

    Welcome to the Hall Jerome. Bus’s last stop, Canton, OH .You are # 5 all time in Rushing for God’s Sake you better get in.

  68. jkmccrty says: Jan 11, 2013 10:54 AM

    Michael Strahan, Jonathan Ogden, Haley and Parcells are no brainers. Parcells may have to wait b/c of is abbrasiveness.

  69. thegregwitul says: Jan 11, 2013 10:57 AM

    I expect the ‘thumbs down’ to be clicked aggressively, but the truth is the truth; Warren Sapp was the most dominant defensive tackle of his generation, no DT possessed his speed and his overall skillset placed him at the very top of his position throughout the majority of his prime.

    If you don’t agree with this; you are blinded by lies and you don’t know football. Warren Sapp may be a clown, but he always played hard on the football field, he just happened to be a jerk off the field. But this is the Pro Football Hall of Fame, not the Human Being Hall of Fame, and because of that, Sapp is the very definition of a first ballot member (in fact, I’d say all of the first time guys are worthy of making it in right now). His body of work doesn’t lie; defensive player of the year, Super Bowl champion, sack machine, and yes, jerk.

  70. spellingcops says: Jan 11, 2013 10:59 AM

    cjspiller12 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:10 AM

    I hope Reed finally get’s in this year. Also hoping one day if they take a special teamer that Steve Tasker get’s in………….best special teamer ever!! Bates for the Cowboys was a great special teamer too, but I would still take Steve Tasker over him. Good luck this year Andre!!!
    —————————————————-
    Sorry to be “that guy”, but if you don’t know the proper application for apostrophes, don’t freaking use them. Get’s? Seriously? So you’re hoping that Reed finally get is in this year? Or that Steve Tasker get is in?

  71. greymares says: Jan 11, 2013 11:01 AM

    8to80texansblog says:
    Jan 11, 2013 9:42 AM
    Sapp and Strahan are no brainers———————————————————————————————for non induction.

  72. 3yrsnfl says: Jan 11, 2013 11:01 AM

    ESPN’s early programming included NFL Yearbooks produced by NFL Films. I would watch them for hours. Steve Sabol belongs in the Professional Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio.

  73. EJ says: Jan 11, 2013 11:02 AM

    dohpey28 says: Jan 11, 2013 10:15 AM

    Tim Brown was better then Cris Carter who was better then Andre Reed. Brown needs to make it before Carter, and Reed doesn’t deserve it.

    Are you kidding? Andre Reed was better than both Brown and Carter. He was a major factor in the Bills domination of the AFC in getting to 4 superbowls in a row.

    Tasker should have been voted in too!

  74. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 11:03 AM

    Cris Carter or take the name off the door. Guys like Parcells and Modell should be in a different category than players. And Parcells should go in today! I’m rooting for the Bus!

  75. pkrjones says: Jan 11, 2013 11:04 AM

    My picks:

    Kevin Greene (Compare his stats/impact to ANY OLB – he belongs)
    Jonathan Ogden
    Larry Allen
    Chris Carter
    Art Modell (impact on NFL growth/popularity was immense)

  76. rescuerob says: Jan 11, 2013 11:05 AM

    Anyone who thinks Lynch does not belong in the HOF either hasn’t seen him play or they just don’t like bone crushing hits. Lynch even knocked out his brother in law who played for the Bears as a tight end. You tube it. With the pansy rules now, just about all of Lynch’s big hits would draw suspensions or fines. He was awesome!

  77. steviaquinn says: Jan 11, 2013 11:05 AM

    First off , if Ray Guy is not in the Hall of Fame , then why even have a Hall of Fame?

    And if Karl Mecklenburg is nominated , why isnt Jesse tuggle?

  78. dexterismyhero says: Jan 11, 2013 11:10 AM

    Lynn Swann is in with less than 500 catches so no other Steeler should be allowed in ever!!!!

  79. jeffharwell3 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:12 AM

    Larry Allen,, Charles Haley, Tim Brown, Chris Carter, Debartolo Jr.

  80. powerandair says: Jan 11, 2013 11:20 AM

    The few mentions in the comments about W. Shields are eye raising. If an offensive lineman was ever worthy, it is him

  81. truthserum4u says: Jan 11, 2013 11:21 AM

    It’s difficult enough to compare players who played different positions and eras; so how in the world do you compare a player with a contributer like a coach or owner?

    They should have a seperate catagory for coaches, owners, GMs, announcers and guys like Sabol. Have it so that no more than one can make it per year, though you could have none. Then increase the number of players that can be selected per year by one or two. It doesn’t mean tou have to meet the maximum if there aren’t worthy players, but this would help clear out the log-jam that seems to be building.

  82. tatatoothy says: Jan 11, 2013 11:24 AM

    This whole process is in dire need of an overhaul

  83. slobmykolb says: Jan 11, 2013 11:30 AM

    If Art Modell gets elected, will he have the guts to return to Ohio and give an acceptance speech in open public?

    He died late 2012

  84. jimthebuilder27 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:33 AM

    It’s a travesty that Cris Carter and Tim Brown aren’t in yet. I remember when my team, the Packers, played against the Vikings. They’d have double, triple coverage on Carter and perfect coverage too. And he still came down with the ball! It was so maddening, but he was just that good!

    Get them both in. They’re well overdue.

  85. lechemas says: Jan 11, 2013 11:41 AM

    Without Larry Allen, there was no Emmitt Smith and without Emmitt Smith there was no play action for Irvin and Aikman, so no Super Bowls. Larry Allen should be a 1st ballot all the way. Then Ogden.

  86. gaadr says: Jan 11, 2013 11:42 AM

    What constitutes a HOF-worthy career is certainly subjective, but something that I believe should be considered is whether a given player defined his position. Thinking of a player’s qualificantions in this context helps evaluate not just the player himself (i.e. his statistics) but in relation to his peers.

    This works in favor of Sapp’s case. He defined the smaller, quick and disruptive 4-3 DT. Randle was certainly a worthy contemporary, but teams often look for “Warren Sapp-type” players when drafting DTs. Sapp should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame.

  87. crj202 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:48 AM

    What idiot just asked if Art Modell had the guts to give a speech in open public if elected? He’s dead.. If he did give a speech, we’d be having a completely different conversation.

  88. granadafan says: Jan 11, 2013 11:49 AM

    The football writers are becoming as bad as the douchy baseball writers in who they select for the Hall of Fame. Cris Carter and Haley were/are major D-bags, but their play and numbers give them a place in Canton. The writers and journalists who vote need to get off their ivory tower and stop this vindictive “payback” campaign just because they were snubbed during interviews a few years ago.

  89. bolts0621 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:50 AM

    Ridiculous Don Coryell didn’t make it.

  90. cpo187 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:51 AM

    5 I think should get in:

    1. Cris Carter – 2nd best WR in NFL history (stats)
    2. Will Shields – If anyone saw him play, they would know
    3.Michael Strahan – Don’t care for the guy personally, but he was a baller.
    4. Bill Parcells – He was the coach you didn’t want to face for a long time
    5. Tim Brown or Charles Haley – couldn’t decide between these 2

  91. glazerh8er says: Jan 11, 2013 11:51 AM

    Anyone who thinks Sapp should be out is saying that the 2nd best (behind Derrick Brooks, but IMO the most important player) in a defense that gained its own nickname Tampa 2 and was tried and mimicked and only closely resembled in Chicago, should be out. A defense that took the Bucs to the NFC championship with Shaun King at QB and held “the greatest show on turf” to 12 points. Shaun King, 3rd string talent, NFC championship. Is there another defense credited to a single team? No, because it took HOF personnel to make it great.

  92. jr4real says: Jan 11, 2013 11:51 AM

    No way does Sapp deserve it. but since he is on TV now he will get in. Just like Steve Young. he never deserved it.

  93. jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says: Jan 11, 2013 11:54 AM

    Ravens will have 3 first ballot HOFers inducted over the next 5-7 years (J.O., Ray, Reed). Great time to be a Purp fan and drop a roman helmet on Peyton Manning. Caw.

  94. sc5000 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:54 AM

    Atwater isn’t a hall of famer? Joke

  95. autumnwind999 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:54 AM

    1. Tim Brown
    2. Cris Carter
    3. Charles Haley
    4. Larry Allen
    5. Michael Strahan

    Jonathan Ogden, Parcells, Aeneas Williams and Kevin Greene would be the next, in that order. And if they were in over any of the guys 3-5 I could live with it.

    It’s getting silly that Brown and Carter are still waiting. Some of the guys who have gone in the last few years should not be ahead of them.

  96. jmoxley9 says: Jan 11, 2013 11:56 AM

    Chris Carter and Tim Brown need to get into the HOF this year. I am shocked that those guys are out but guys like Lynn Swann and John Stallworth are in. Its ridiculous. They have less then half the catches, no where near the same amount of yards, and arent even close in TD’s yet they are in. Its stupid. Check the stats. I dont care that they made a couple catches in the playoffs, its a career award.

    Ogden and Allen will be first ballot.

  97. salutethis says: Jan 11, 2013 12:09 PM

    Gee what do you know? East coast bias strikes again. Color me shocked.

  98. bunjy96 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:11 PM

    How did Lynch even get on the list.

    His pro bowl votes in Denver were on reputation, certainly not on his contribution.

  99. gn74 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:22 PM

    “If Art Modell gets elected, will he have the guts to return to Ohio and give an acceptance speech in open public?”

    ——————————–

    someone doesn’t follow the NFL that closely, evidently

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    “Being that his carcass has been rotting in hell for a few months if he did show up I’d probably let him in.”

    ———————————

    Wow, just mention that the man died and leave it at that. He doesn’t rank up there with bin Laden, Hitler or Stalin. Sorry to break that to ya.

  100. droyale3 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:22 PM

    No, No No No to Art Modell.

    Just because he died does not forgive what he did to Cleveland. In addition, we should not honor someone that actually lost money owning an NFL franchise to the point where after he took the money and ran .. he still needed to be bailed out a 2nd time and ended up losing the team anyway.

    No, No, No. Never.

  101. deadunicorn says: Jan 11, 2013 12:25 PM

    Eddie D???cheated in a year they won the SB and then banned for gambling. Not to mention punching an old man in the back of the head and sexually assaulting a waitress. They are really considering this??

  102. topwonk says: Jan 11, 2013 12:25 PM

    It is a travesty that Steve Sabol is not going in. He should have gone in with his Dad, and certainly should this year. Ed Sabol founded NFL Films and deserved to be enshrined. And, Steve had more to do with the NFL’s prominence in American culture, and place in Americans’ hearts, than any other single person. Steve built the image of the present and future NFL when he was alive, and preserved the history of the NFL, more so than any other person did for the NFL, or any other sport for that matter. If you polled every player in the NFL, and every former player, my guess is that Steve Sabol would win the vote this year – in a landslide.

  103. cjspiller12 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:26 PM

    @spellingcops says:Jan 11, 2013 10:59 AM

    GFY!!!!

  104. blacknole08 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:38 PM

    Steve Sabol wasn’t even nominated? Him and his father are partly responsible for the popularity of the NFL.

    But I say:

    Ogden – one of the GOATs at LT

    Shields – Allen had Emmitt Smith; Shields had Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson, even guys like Derrick Blaylock had a 100 yd, 4 TD game with Shields paving the way.

    Charles Haley – 5 rings!

    Parcells

    Cris Carter – at least put one wideout in this year

  105. southpaw2k says: Jan 11, 2013 12:44 PM

    droyale3 says:
    Jan 11, 2013 12:22 PM
    No, No No No to Art Modell.

    Just because he died does not forgive what he did to Cleveland. In addition, we should not honor someone that actually lost money owning an NFL franchise to the point where after he took the money and ran .. he still needed to be bailed out a 2nd time and ended up losing the team anyway.

    No, No, No. Never.

    —————————————————

    I sure hope that you feel the same way about the entire Irsay family then. Their handling of moving the Colts away from Baltimore was much, much worse than what Modell did to Cleveland.

  106. ijahru says: Jan 11, 2013 12:48 PM

    Charkes Haley-He has waited long enough
    Kevin Greene-He has waited long enough
    Jonathan Ogden-Top 1-2 Left Tackle of his era
    Warren Sapp-ultra quick d-lineman helped Tampa develop top defense
    Bill Parcells-Won 2 SB and has an impressive coaching tree

    Why do they even have a senior category? If you didn’t make it in when going up against your peers then you shouldn’t be in the HOF

  107. bigwayne75 says: Jan 11, 2013 12:52 PM

    I believe these stats deserves to be in the HOF, do you?

    7× Pro Bowl selection
    4× First-Team All-Pro selection
    2× Second-Team All-Pro selection
    Super Bowl champion
    2× NFC Champion
    2001 NFL Defensive Player of the Year
    2× NFC Defensive Player of the Year
    NFL Alumni Pass Rusher of the Year
    100 Sacks Club
    NFL 2000s All-Decade Team

  108. dukemarc says: Jan 11, 2013 12:53 PM

    How is Steve Atwater not a finalist??? I’m not saying he should get in the HOF this year but it’s laughable that he’s not at least in the running.

  109. dexterismyhero says: Jan 11, 2013 12:53 PM

    If Art Modell could speak today it would be very muffled because of all the dirt on top of him!!!!!

  110. damcmp says: Jan 11, 2013 12:54 PM

    What????? no J J Watt? Wade Phillips will be devastated!!!!!!!

  111. bucfan4lyfe says: Jan 11, 2013 1:06 PM

    Strahan
    Sapp
    Carter
    Ogden
    Parcells

  112. patssteelersorgiants says: Jan 11, 2013 1:13 PM

    And a special medal for Goodell for ruining the game.

  113. sullijo1 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:17 PM

    The Chiefs have more players in the HOF than they have playoff wins.

  114. gaadr says: Jan 11, 2013 1:18 PM

    I am kind of on the fence about Parcells. It just seems as if his legend exceeds his accomplishments. The two Super Bowl wins are certainly of note, but that puts him in company with Flores, Johnson, Seifert among others. His coaching tree is an intriguing argument and I am open to being swayed, but am not sure he is a Hall of Fame coach.

  115. geniusesq says: Jan 11, 2013 1:35 PM

    Michael Strahan
    Chris Carter
    Jonathan Ogden
    Charles Haley
    Bill Parcells

  116. blogatron2000 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:36 PM

    sullijo1 says:
    Jan 11, 2013 1:17 PM
    The Chiefs have more players in the HOF than they have playoff wins.
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    So what’s your point?

    There have been plenty of great players who spent their careers on average or below average (or downright horrible) teams. The HOF is an individual honor. Will Shields and Curly Culp are more than deserving regardless of who they played for or when.

  117. csszrr says: Jan 11, 2013 1:40 PM

    Modell’s contributions, which were more of a group effort with the real genius , Pete Rozelle do not outweigh his deficiencies. He also followed Paul Brown’s example of egalitarianism. As for the Irsay’s, they deserve enshrinement for leaving Charm City.

  118. jerrykramer says: Jan 11, 2013 1:44 PM

    If Modell gets in and shows up for enshrinement, that would be a story……for the ages.

  119. ron69 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:46 PM

    I would Carter, Brown, Shields, Haley and Greene.
    They will, Strahan, Bettis, Parcells, Ogden and Shields

  120. buccaneers1979 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:48 PM

    talkingproud says:
    Jan 11, 2013 10:01 AM
    As a Bills fan I would love to see Andre Reed finally make in the HOF. He deserves it!

    As a football fan I hope Warren Sapp does not get in. He was a good player but his mouth, attitude and actions, especially since retiring prove him unworthy of such a high honor. Be satisfied with just the nomination, Warren!

    If behavior off the field “especially since retiring” were a reason to keep player out of the HoF then Lawrence Taylor should never have been voted in. The fact is Sapp on the field was a football machine… one-time Super Bowl champion, seven-time Pro Bowler, four-time All-Pro, 4 double digit sack seasons and 96 career sacks (second most by an interior defensive lineman). Dislike him all you want, but his performance speaks for itself.

  121. ultramegacritic says: Jan 11, 2013 1:49 PM

    NFL must really hate the Raiders. How can you even have a hall of fame and not have Ray Guy? Tim Brown is not even in the hall! He is the greatest WR ever to play in the NFL. Jerry Rice had Montana and Young throwing him the football. Brown had Jay Schroder, Todd Moronavich and Jeff George!

  122. theravenlives2 says: Jan 11, 2013 1:49 PM

    No, No No No to Art Modell.

    Just because he died does not forgive what he did to Cleveland. In addition, we should not honor someone that actually lost money owning an NFL franchise to the point where after he took the money and ran .. he still needed to be bailed out a 2nd time and ended up losing the team anyway.

    No, No, No. Never
    ==================================

    Ummm, its the Pro Football Hall of Fame, not the Greater Cleveland Hall of Fame. Maybe it’s time you folks in Northeastern Ohio figured that out. If you are gonna view everything in relation to how it effects the Browns then maybe the HOF should be moved somewhere else.

  123. purpleronin says: Jan 11, 2013 1:58 PM

    My picks from the 15 finalists: J. Ogden, Cris Carter, W. Sheilds, C. Haley and Art Modell. I think Aundre Reed, Strahan, Parcells, T. Brown and Larry Allen are deserving and should get in – eventually.

    From the list of semi-finalists, I think M Andersen Steve Atwater, Don Coryell, Roger Craig, Karl Mecklenburg and Tasker all deserve to get in as well. Especially Coryell, Atwater, and Craig.

  124. broncobrewer says: Jan 11, 2013 2:16 PM

    Mecklenberg and Atwater should’ve been in. They were the best at their positions during their time. The broncos need to do a better PR job for their ex players. These guys should get in before Lewis and Reed

  125. cincyorangenblack says: Jan 11, 2013 2:18 PM

    How on Earth is Ken Anderson NOT in the Hall?!?!?

    his name doesn’t even come up anymore and he’s got comparible, if not better career #’s than most of the 23 QB’s who are in…and better #’s than 3 of the 4 who never won a title…

  126. neer music says: Jan 11, 2013 2:26 PM

    carter deserves his recognition.

  127. cometkazie says: Jan 11, 2013 2:31 PM

    gaadr says:
    Jan 11, 2013 1:18 PM
    I am kind of on the fence about Parcells. It just seems as if his legend exceeds his accomplishments. The two Super Bowl wins are certainly of note, but that puts him in company with Flores, Johnson, Seifert among others. His coaching tree is an intriguing argument and I am open to being swayed, but am not sure he is a Hall of Fame coach.
    +-+-+

    Go by the effect he had on the game. I think that should be the main criterion for the hall.

  128. roadtrip3500 says: Jan 11, 2013 2:51 PM

    Allen, Strahan, Haley, and Parcells.

  129. bigwayne75 says: Jan 11, 2013 2:59 PM

    To me this stats look good enough for the HOF, so you agree?

    7× Pro Bowl selection
    4× First-Team All-Pro selection
    2× Second-Team All-Pro selection
    Super Bowl champion
    2× NFC Champion
    2001 NFL Defensive Player of the Year
    2× NFC Defensive Player of the Year
    NFL Alumni Pass Rusher of the Year
    100 Sacks Club
    NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
    The Top 100: NFL’s Greatest Players

  130. philvil41 says: Jan 11, 2013 3:23 PM

    Tim Brown had 9 consecutive 1000yd seasons with mostly subpar QB’s throwing him the ball{save for Hostettler and Gannon}|was a great punt returner his entire career.Andre Reed NEVER had back to back 1000yd seasons,and completely lost his composure in the Super Bowl vs.Wash.,he also contributed to the now documented off the field partying that haunted the Bills in the SB.Bruce Smith is on record saying they whooped it up too much at the SB more than once.Reed should ALWAYS be on the outside looking in and Tim Brown richly deserves induction with the best of all time.

  131. psousa1 says: Jan 11, 2013 3:26 PM

    How is Morten Anderson not in the hall of fame? He dominated his position for over 10 years. He was a true weapon. Oh wait, the fat slob writers like to say – “Kickers aren’t football players!” All because they heard some fat slob coach who also may have never played a down in the NFL say the same thing. They should go cover a kick on any level

  132. richc111 says: Jan 11, 2013 3:48 PM

    You know they should just have a year when they let all 3 WR in Brown , Reed and Carter all deserve it but from some reason they never get in. Hey, I know this will piss of all of the Cowboy fans so feel free to give the old thumbs down but if Irvin gets in all 3 of these guys deserved it. All there at top 10 in lifetime stats for WR going into this year. Irvin name can be found in the 30-40 range plus none of these 3 guys got suspended for drug use during their playing time. Every year that goes by another WR will be added who will deserve it so one of these guys will drop off.

  133. thegloriousone says: Jan 11, 2013 4:33 PM

    If Modell is elected into the Hall of Fame, it’s justice that he died before hand. He didn’t deserve the pleasure of that accolade.

    I wonder if his worthless cokehead step-son(since he wasn’t man enough to have his own kids) will be his presenter.

    if Modell makes it, I can only assume that Irsay is next.

  134. titansrst says: Jan 11, 2013 7:24 PM

    First, Strahan should never make it, especially with that stunt he and Favre pulled to get seasonal sack record. I think Sapp is overrated, too. My Picks:

    Chris Carter
    Larry Allen
    Curley Culp
    Kevin Greene
    Jonathan Ogden
    Bill Parcells
    Jerome Bettis

  135. titansrst says: Jan 11, 2013 7:33 PM

    This set of posts was most astute set I have ever seen in my years on the Internet. Many great points, whether I agreed with them or not. The most touching were comments about Steve Sabol. Absolutely correct. He should go in NOW, as should Ray Guy. I think Joe Klecko of the NY Jets belongs in the HOF, too. He was the greatest of the so-caled sack exchange and carried himself with pride. Sapp was overrrated, as is Terrell Owens and a number of others we’ll be forced to deal with in a few years. Tasker should also be in as one of the greatest special teamers ever.

  136. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 8:18 PM

    @cometkazie …

    Great post! The only criterion should be the impact these guys had one the game while they were active … not the number of championships they’ve won or how their stats compare to stats from players 30 years later. Using that standard would quell any argument about Lynn Swann … and ensure Bill Parcells is inducted on first ballot.

  137. Deb says: Jan 11, 2013 8:49 PM

    @cometkazie …

    Agreed! The only criterion for the Hall should be the impact these guys had on the game while they were active, not how many championships their teams won or how their stats compare to current players. You can’t compare backs from the 30s to backs from the 60s or receivers from the 70s to receivers today. The Parcells coaching tree is more relevant than his Super Bowl history–which is impressive enough.

  138. fsf7 says: Jan 18, 2013 2:09 AM

    dezmick says: Jan 11, 2013 9:43 AM

    If Art Modell gets elected, will he have the guts to return to Ohio and give an acceptance speech in open public?
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    Absolutely classless

  139. fsf7 says: Jan 18, 2013 2:21 AM

    I can’t believe people think Strahan is HOF material. Seriously?

    And since FOuts, Joiner, and Winslow or HOFers, I think that is strong evidence Coryell should be too.

    Otherwise the 3 O-line listed should be in.
    Allen, Ogden, Jacoby

    Jacoby was in 4 SBs (won 3) for crying out loud…4x pro bowl 2x all-pro 1st team. NFL all decade team. What else does he have to do?
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    Dermontti Dawson had to wait a # of years to get in as an OL – and he was better than Mike Webster. OL have to wait, none are 1st ballot guys.
    that means Allen, Ogden, Jacoby wait…one at a time.

    Coryell was 111-83 with a 3-6 playoff record. He doesn’t come near the Hall of Fame, maybe if one of his teams went to the Super Bowl from 79-81 and won it, then you have a case.

    Strahan was 7 time Pro Bowl and 4 time All Pro, 141 sacks, Defensive MVP, Super Bowl winner, all time single season sack record. Thats HOF dude.

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    sirgrinsley says: Jan 11, 2013 9:45 AM

    Ogden and Haley are the only ones deserving. Jerome bettis? Really? Maybe belongs in Pitt HOF
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    The 5th all time leading rusher and you say he doesn’t belong. Thank god you don’t have a vote

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