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Tim Ryan kept Megatron from unanimous All-Pro recognition

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Of the 50 voters on the Associated Press panel that chooses the All-Pro team, 49 of them selected Detroit’s Calvin Johnson at wide receiver. The one who did not was Tim Ryan of FOX Sports and SiriusXM NFL Radio.

The AP confirmed to PFT that Ryan, a former NFL defensive tackle who played for the Bears from 1990 to 1994, was the lone voter who left Megatron off his All-Pro ballot.

Why didn’t Ryan consider Johnson — who set a new single-season record for receiving yards — as one of the two best receivers in the NFL last year? I don’t know. I left a voicemail with Ryan and sent an email to FOX Sports’ PR department seeking his reasoning, but I have not heard back.

As a FOX analyst, Ryan worked the Lions’ games against the Rams, Seahawks and Cardinals in 2012. Those were not his best games — he averaged 93 yards a game in those three, compared to 130 yards a game in his other 13 games — so perhaps that colored Ryan’s voting.

Still, a voter should consider the entire season, and not simply the games he personally attended, and on that standard it’s hard to see how there were two better receivers than Johnson. No one else in the NFL even came within 350 receiving yards of Johnson last season, so it’s tough to make a statistical case that there was even one NFL receiver better than Johnson in 2012. We hope to hear from Ryan, so he can explain why he thinks there was not just one receiver better than Johnson, but two.

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99 Responses to “Tim Ryan kept Megatron from unanimous All-Pro recognition”
  1. lilpuppy says: Jan 12, 2013 3:30 PM

    he played for the Bears…says it all there

  2. benroethlisberger7 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:30 PM

    Do we laugh at him?

  3. daknight93 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:32 PM

    I do agree with this article, but the reality is that everyone can’t be pleased despite Megatron’s great season.

  4. sportsmeccabi says: Jan 12, 2013 3:33 PM

    He goes to cris carter for advice!

  5. 1phd says: Jan 12, 2013 3:33 PM

    He’s still an all Pro so what’s the issue? It’s bogus that you outed the one person that didn’t vote for him for headline grabbing purposes and a violation of confidentiality that the AP disclosed that information to you. You must have gotten it from a weekend intern that didn’t know better. What does it serve other than to intimidate voters?

    Michael David Smith: There is no expectation of confidentiality in the voting. I got it from Barry Wilner, the AP’s longtime top NFL guy.

  6. bamalion3 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:34 PM

    My question is who did Tim Ryan think was better than Calvin?

  7. Stiller43 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:34 PM

    Granted nobody came within 350 yards of him, but perhaps some WRs had more touchdowns? More impact plays in big games? More explosive plays?

    I think megatron is the best in the game…but maybe this guy considered some of the above (idk any of the answers, or his opinions on the matter)…and the fact he has ties to a division rival hurts as well.

  8. salventuri says: Jan 12, 2013 3:34 PM

    He did vote for Optimus Prime however.

  9. tomnickle says: Jan 12, 2013 3:36 PM

    I would vote Brandon Marshall and Calvin Johnson…..with Marshall as my #1.

    The Lions played a lot of prevent defenses this season and Johnson picked up huge garbage time catches and yards.

    Brandon Marshall went to a new team, a new offense and was absolutely dominant. Imagine Marshall’s numbers if Cutler had thrown as many passes as Stafford?

    There wouldn’t be a single season WR record left without the name Marshall beside it if that were the case.

  10. benihanagt says: Jan 12, 2013 3:37 PM

    He probably did it so that he’d get the attention you’re giving him now, and apparently plan to increase in the next couple hours.

  11. mriversjr23 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:37 PM

    What a complete TOOL! Smh…

  12. peopletrains says: Jan 12, 2013 3:38 PM

    I guess he thought the quickest way to get his 15 minutes of fame was to look like an idiot. Unfortunately, that usually works.

  13. bender4700 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:38 PM

    Just like the lone guy who voted against Dan Marino making the Hall of Fame.

    Some guys just want to be “that guy”.

  14. cowboysallday says: Jan 12, 2013 3:41 PM

    He should lose his job

  15. bolts0621 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:41 PM

    Good call by Ryan. Nothing All-Pro about piling up meaningless stats in blowout losses.

  16. edwinmoses says: Jan 12, 2013 3:44 PM

    Way to ostracize and try and ruin a guys career just b/c he didn’t agree w/ you that Megatron was top 2 in the league.

    Personally, I think he is, but I still recognize and respect others who put weight on the fact that a lot of CJ’s yards and production came when defenses switched to a zone defense once the game was over at half.

    Michael David Smith: You think me pointing out an All-Pro vote is going to ruin his career? You seriously believe FOX is going to say, “Michael David Smith disagrees with Tim Ryan’s All-Pro voting! We must fire him at once!” Yeah, I don’t think that’s going to happen.

  17. ty46 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:45 PM

    Next up:
    -the two guys who didn’t vote for Von Miller
    -the three snubbing Aldon Smith

  18. dwarftosser says: Jan 12, 2013 3:48 PM

    Who cared? These idiots voted manning over Rodgers too. The AP polls are dumb.

  19. timcast12 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:50 PM

    Haha Brandon Marshall.. To funny

  20. stew48 says: Jan 12, 2013 3:55 PM

    I think the comment on the comparison to the Dan Marino vote hits the nail squarely. Some human beings are just stuck with flaws, while others……..

  21. korikill says: Jan 12, 2013 3:55 PM

    Garbage time yards? WHY do people post when they don’t know jack?
    Watch the games, maybe then you’ll have a relevant opinion.

  22. objectivenflfan says: Jan 12, 2013 3:56 PM

    Tim Ryan and PK are the best football duo on the radio. Who cares if he didn’t vote for CJ.

  23. mungman69 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:00 PM

    Maybe Tim Ryan has brain damage, did you ever think of that?

  24. snowpea84 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:01 PM

    Oh well, at the end of the day Johnson has the record and Tim Ryan looks like an idiot.

  25. hayesair says: Jan 12, 2013 4:02 PM

    lost all respect for Ryan

  26. groess says: Jan 12, 2013 4:02 PM

    Same type of guy who puts a ‘thumbs down’ when someone states their condolences to another that may have lost someone. Just wants to be ‘that guy’.

  27. scrummymustard says: Jan 12, 2013 4:02 PM

    “I would vote Brandon Marshall and Calvin Johnson…..with Marshall as my #1.

    The Lions played a lot of prevent defenses this season and Johnson picked up huge garbage time catches and yards.

    Brandon Marshall went to a new team, a new offense and was absolutely dominant. Imagine Marshall’s numbers if Cutler had thrown as many passes as Stafford?

    There wouldn’t be a single season WR record left without the name Marshall beside it if that were the case.”

    Brandon Marshall had only 11 less targets at him compared to CJ (194 vs 205). So even if he had caught them all (which he wouldn’t) he would need to average 40 yards a catch on each to even tie Calvin Johnson.

    Please take your Bear’s homerism and bring it somewhere else, and this coming from a Saints fan, NOT a lions fan.

  28. steeltuff says: Jan 12, 2013 4:03 PM

    So what? It’s an individual vote for an individual award. He obviously had his reasons for excluding Megatron. Is there an unofficial rule that says certain popular players must be voted to the All-Pro team? Plus, why identify the voter? It will affect voters’ choices in the future who don’t want to be outed.

  29. tbtrojan says: Jan 12, 2013 4:03 PM

    The bigger question is how did he manage to get the 49 votes he did?
    When 29 other wideouts have more touchdowns, not 1 or 2 or even 10 but TWENTY NINE, there is no reason to vote for him.
    Sure he had all those yards but so what, games are won based on the points scored not yards gained. You have to factor in yards to a point but when you are behind 29 others for TDs at your position you shouldn’t even be in the debate.
    Marshall & Dez Bryant should have been the 1st teamers yet Bryant isn’t even on the 2nd team.

  30. larryboodry says: Jan 12, 2013 4:04 PM

    cowboysallday says: Jan 12, 2013 3:41 PM

    “He should lose his job”

    Are you serious?

  31. bombthreat27 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:06 PM

    This guy is a complete idiot and his vote should be given to someone who actually follows football.

  32. primetime666 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:07 PM

    Johnson scored 5 TDs all season and all 5 TDs were in losses… I agree with Tim Ryan.

  33. genericcommenter says: Jan 12, 2013 4:10 PM

    So, who were the other two? Isn’t that bit of information relevant?

  34. bricktop02 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:11 PM

    My question is who is Tim Ryan?

  35. newyorkfootballjets says: Jan 12, 2013 4:13 PM

    Manning over rodgers all day, and brandon marshall and aj green over calvin and his garbage yards in blow out losses , plus dont forget most pass attempts ever by stafford .

  36. meurah says: Jan 12, 2013 4:13 PM

    Perhaps Tim Ryan was confused when he heard the name “Megatron”, and refused to put a super-human in the pro bowl?

  37. giantsfanlewis says: Jan 12, 2013 4:16 PM

    Geese a witch hunt for a person who doesn’t agree with you. I have a few reasons why Johnson didn’t get all the votes.

    1. Yards don’t win games, tds do. Johnson had yards but not touchdowns. Reverse records and I garentee you cj get it.
    2. Stanford set the record for attempts. That makes the yardage record look forced instead of earned.
    3. For all those yards he gained, they didn’t help the lions win games. Again if those yards were tds, the lions have more wins and cj is the best. Yards are overrated

  38. blchaney69 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:17 PM

    Tim Ryan is the ultimate football guy who knows more about football than anyone who reports for this website. And I’m sure he knows more than atleast 45 of the other voters who did vote for Johnson. Any of u folks that think he shouldn’t have a vote clearly knows nothing about football

  39. lroc20 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:20 PM

    Tim Ryan knows football like my daughter knows football

  40. sterling7 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:21 PM

    I’ll tell you something crazy, I just happened to be thinking about this as my favorite team is “desperate” for receiving help. I watch an awful lot of NFL as well a College football and I was just thinking about how much Calvin Johnson accomplished this year. But if you watch half as much football as I do then you saw lot of Calvin Johnson-count how many drops he had his year, it was incredible, I mean he dropped an awful lot of extremely catchable balls thrown to him this year-I still wish we had him though.

  41. mike106 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:21 PM

    who is Tim Ryan

  42. slaughterrt says: Jan 12, 2013 4:23 PM

    Yes…lets ostracize someone who stands up and votes against the majority. Better to be a sheep than the shepard.

    Why do you think there are 50 voters instead of just one guy? To get different opinions. Why give the guy the option to vote if you are gonna wig out when he votes differrntly than you?

  43. larryboodry says: Jan 12, 2013 4:24 PM

    korikill says: Jan 12, 2013 3:55 PM

    “Garbage time yards? WHY do people post when they don’t know jack?
    Watch the games, maybe then you’ll have a relevant opinion.”

    One could argue that on a 4-12 team, and with only 5 TDs, all of Johnson’s yards were garbage time yards…For all his gaudy stats, CJ did nothing to help his team win…So maybe Ryan has a point.

  44. tdubdizzle says: Jan 12, 2013 4:25 PM

    The only thing I can think of…Calvin Johnson didnt make the playoffs. Therefor, his stats are irrelevant in Tims mind…I dont know, who cares I dont think Calvin will lose any sleep over it.

  45. larryboodry says: Jan 12, 2013 4:26 PM

    And all 5 of Johnson’s TDs came in 5 different games, all of which Detroit lost.

  46. jscruisen says: Jan 12, 2013 4:27 PM

    To many head injuries during his playing days would explain it, or He’s just an IDIOT!

  47. brian1802003 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:30 PM

    T-Roc talk about it!!!!

  48. threedeep1998 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:31 PM

    Perhaps not enough people jumped on board and cranked out those phone lines.

  49. blchaney69 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:31 PM

    @brick top, if u don’t know, u should get Sirius radio. He knows his football and he is excellent on Fox games..

  50. Corey Jeppesen says: Jan 12, 2013 4:38 PM

    What is the big deal here? He still in an all pro, it just wasn’t unanimous.

  51. edwinmoses says: Jan 12, 2013 4:40 PM

    Michael David Smith: You think me pointing out an All-Pro vote is going to ruin his career? You seriously believe FOX is going to say, “Michael David Smith disagrees with Tim Ryan’s All-Pro voting! We must fire him at once!” Yeah, I don’t think that’s going to happen.
    ————————————————————————–
    Oh Michael. First off, I said TRY and ruin his career. Many mignons on this very popular site are easily persuaded especially w/ the headline put up.

    You highlight how CJ got a single season record but don’t provide the other side of the story on how he did. Let me ask you this, do you believe CJ is more deserving of the single season record or Jerry Rice?

  52. mattbydlon says: Jan 12, 2013 4:42 PM

    I don’t agree with his vote (or lack, thereof), but it seems silly to make such a big deal about it… I bet Megatron laughed it off and doesn’t even care.

  53. pencepost says: Jan 12, 2013 4:51 PM

    The Lions were 4-12 and ranked 21st in passing game efficiency, so what help was it giving him a ridiculous number of targets? We judge quarterbacks by wins and all kinds of various efficiency stats, along with the “eyeball test”, perceived leadership, etc. If we only judged them by completions and yards, your All-Pro QB’s would be Stafford, Brees, or Romo. Maybe Tim Ryan saw some things besides yardage totals that he liked better about a couple other WR’s – perhaps 3rd down conversions, perhaps run blocking, perhaps other intangibles. Perhaps he simply only votes for players on teams with at least 5 wins. That’s his prerogative and that’s why 50 people vote on it, to get a lot of opinions.

  54. dolphins512 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:53 PM

    First, I’ll bet if you ask Tim Ryan, he will have a good logical explanation for his picks. Not everyone is going to agree, but T-Roc has a great football mind and will have his own logic.

    Second, I think this is much to do about nothing. This happens all the time. Why this particular vote or player is an issue, I have no idea.

  55. hoochbcs says: Jan 12, 2013 4:57 PM

    James Jones had a better season. Twice the td’s and directly led to at least five packers victories. Not sure if that is who Ryan voted for but, Jones deserves some recognition.

  56. larryboodry says: Jan 12, 2013 4:57 PM

    primetime666 says: Jan 12, 2013 4:07 PM

    “Johnson scored 5 TDs all season and all 5 TDs were in losses… I agree with Tim Ryan.”

    Good, there’s a few of us who agree…And here’s the thing – before this article, and all the hate thrown at Tim Ryan for his opinion, I hadn’t given CJ much thought, I figured he and Marshall were the top two WRs…But now I have changed my mind about CJ being #1…Dez Bryant did more to help the Cowboys in their late-season run and deserved to make the Pro Bowl.

  57. hoochbcs says: Jan 12, 2013 5:03 PM

    correction almost three times the td’s 14 to Johnson’s 5

    James Jones single handily won five games for the Pack this year

    Calvin Johnson led the Lions to 8 straight losses while racking up a ton of meaningless yards

    just saying

  58. theboondoggles says: Jan 12, 2013 5:03 PM

    The Jay Mariotti void must be filled…

  59. boondocksaint7 says: Jan 12, 2013 5:08 PM

    Wow a former Bear. That sounds like a completely unbiased opinion. Haha! Just saying…

  60. jessethegreat says: Jan 12, 2013 5:12 PM

    You can have all the yard guys you want. I will take the guys that catch the touchdowns. Receiving yards look nice on paper. Touchdowns help your team get to the post season or at least fight for a post season birth. Marshall had a much better season helping his team win games. Calvin had a great season on paper.

  61. georgeblanda says: Jan 12, 2013 5:17 PM

    I find it totally absurd that the sports media (including the author of this article) has any credibility covering, talking about or voting for any of these awards. All you have to know is that Willie Mays and Hank Aaron did not get 100% of the votes to get into the baseball hall of fame from the baseball writers. Enough said about sports journalists voting for awards.

  62. granadafan says: Jan 12, 2013 5:18 PM

    He’s like those idiotic baseball writers who NEVER vote in someone for the Hall of Fame on their first try as some sort of douchy statement.

  63. skolvikesskol says: Jan 12, 2013 5:27 PM

    Looking forward to all the hater comments when AP is named MVP. We will hear about how he wasn’t an MVP b/c he didn’t beat the pack in the payoffs. We will hear about ow an RB can’t win MVP because the qb is most important position and has the biggest impact. We will hear about how all the credit goes to his ol/fb. We will hear the dumbest argument about how the Manning, playing for a play off team, brought the Broncos to the playoffs (I never understand that argument). We will hear about how Manning runs the offense and is not only a qb, but a coach. Can’t wait!

  64. polapea says: Jan 12, 2013 5:28 PM

    Tim Ryan is a moron. Put that to vote and I’m sure it would be unanimous.

    He’s a tool being oppositional just to get his name out there.

  65. dlions18 says: Jan 12, 2013 5:33 PM

    @giantsfanlewis
    Stanford is a college. Stafford is the Lions’ quarterback.

    People need to stop with the garbage yards mentality. For most of his yards the Lions were within one score of the other team. Hardly garbage yards. The focus of every defense the Lions faced was to stop Johnson. They couldn’t. He was stopped at the 1 yard line 6 times. All of which were converted into TDs. The Lions offense performed well this year. It was their special teams and their defense (which ranked 27th in points allowed) that lost the games for them.

  66. kevpft says: Jan 12, 2013 5:37 PM

    Maybe he decided to vote for receivers whose efforts helped their team win more than four games?

  67. koenig61 says: Jan 12, 2013 5:41 PM

    Unless Johnson gets some kind of bonus money for being a unanimous pick, this is a total non story. If Ryan’s vote kept him off the the team that’s one thing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion on who is and who isn’t an all pro. Ray Lewis keeps being selected as all pro and hasn’t played at that level for 2-3 years now. Possibly past 3-4 years.

  68. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Jan 12, 2013 5:42 PM

    Here we go again — some clued out meaningless nobody like Tim Ryan gets his name in the paper by defiling the honor of All Pro status.

    Just what exactly gave Tim Ryan the authority to determine who is or isn’t All Pro? Ryan should be stripped of his right to vote – a right he was never qualified to have in the first place.

    Would any self-respecting football fan ever want that moron having some sway in who does or doesn’t qualify as worthy? No. Get him out of there.

  69. countduku says: Jan 12, 2013 5:44 PM

    Tim Ryan should never be given a ballot again. Does not deserve it.

  70. realskipbayless says: Jan 12, 2013 5:48 PM

    Can Tim Ryan and bring in someone with some sense.

  71. bender4700 says: Jan 12, 2013 5:50 PM

    Not voting for a guy who broke a single season record held by one of the widely considered greatest NFL players EVER isn’t enough to get him fired, and it shouldn’t be, but it speaks to his mental state.

    Media members SHOULD be reporting and voting based on facts not personal bias.

    That’s why it’s an issue. A lone voter, who clearly was not voting for Megatron for other reasons than his on field play.

    THAT is the problem folks. This wasn’t a fan poll. It was voted on by people with higher expectations.

  72. gosuhgo says: Jan 12, 2013 5:52 PM

    I havent heard a good excuse yet. If he was the lions only good receiver, why doesnt larry fitz have as many yards? If its only because of volume, why did he break the record with less catches than rice? The lions lost 9 1 possesion games. They did not play prevent defenses. He had 80 yards when trailing by 14 or more. Please. Know your facts before spewing ignorance about megatron.

  73. shutupbrees says: Jan 12, 2013 6:02 PM

    I don’t agree with the vote, but its an objective system, and this is the result.

    So many of Johnson’s yards were garbage time. Even in the game he broke the record, Gruden kind of downplayed it. Gruden! A guy who never holds back off a superlative.

    That team was terrible, and I get the argument that these awards should go to players on winning teams.

  74. easynow59 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:02 PM

    Yeah, ok, Tim Ryan is a moron. Guy played in the league, does games every week for fox, has the best radio show on Sirius and watches film constantly. You’re right, he knows nothing about football. Yet these posters who see the network broadcast and maybe Epsn highlights are more qualified.

  75. stevied23 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:19 PM

    Please tell me where all these garbage time stats are coming from? Of the Lions’ 12 losses, only 4 were my more than 8 points.

  76. nashz84 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:20 PM

    Seriously ??? Sometimes guys jus over think things , the guy has an awesome year regardless if his team played poorly

  77. giantsfanlewis says: Jan 12, 2013 6:23 PM

    Dlions18

    Auto correct makes a fool of us all. I didn’t say his yardage was garbage time yards. I stated that yards are overrated and he didn’t score enough tds to help his team. If he had 500 yards and 24 tds I garentee that both the lions have more wins and he gets the votes. He had record yards but just 5 tds. His qb set the record for passing attempts and he sets the record for yards but just 5 tds is terrible.

    I wish people would stop using yards as a measuring stick for greatness. Its touchdown or bust

  78. ron69 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:25 PM

    Now I want a full explanation why Tim Ryan chose another player and his reasons, I imagine was Dez Bryant or Andre Johnson or even Vincent Jackson (he has my vote)

  79. stevied23 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:28 PM

    He dropped a couple of TD passes this year but his TD numbers are going to be lower when you are triple teamed on each play. Anyone who thinks that TDs are the main determining statistic, especially with someone who faces unprecedented coverages while putting up those kind of numbers, probably needs to find a new sport to watch.

  80. kaveech says: Jan 12, 2013 6:28 PM

    I can’t believe it either, but I’m surprised how many idiots are trying to rationalize that Dez or anyone else is better. Even one moron said yards are overrated. So should I say Mikel LeShoure is better than Ray Rice cause he had more TD’s? So Dickerson and Rice’s records are merely “yards” categories. Like AP, Calvin amassed these yards in triple coverage with defenses keying in on solely stopping them, that’s why the record is so impressive. If you wanna argue that QB’s get meaningless yards in the 4th quarter cause of check-down passes, you might have a case, but in the situation where Calvin got most of his yards in the 1st half and seeing double to quadruple coverage all game, I’d say its the most respectable record any WR can achieve. Congrats Calvin, and clearly there’ll always be haters who think their guy (Marshall, who had more drops than Johnson and Bryant, who was irrelevant for half the season) is the best, but you have the record so they’ll always be chasing you……and both of them are enjoying the playoffs from the same view you are.

  81. rg3andthensome says: Jan 12, 2013 6:32 PM

    Tim…Be ready to defend yourself on Monday! I will be listening….Yikes…What a miss!?

  82. mmcdan13 says: Jan 12, 2013 6:32 PM

    Look at the game log. Calvin Johnson was wildly inconsistent until November 4th, at which point he went nuts for 8 weeks straight. Well guess what? His team was done and his entire season was basically him and Matthew Stafford compiling garbage time yards.

    Yeah, he’s a great talent and I probably would have voted for him myself, but I don’t think voting for AJ Green, Brandon Marshall or Andre Johnson is a ridiculous notion. They came up big in big games all year. Just depends on your criteria.

  83. zzr600guy says: Jan 12, 2013 6:48 PM

    I like Ryan but idk what he’s smoking to not think CJ is the best. I would probably put Fitzgerald at #2, his #’s would be great too if he had a QB.

  84. hawkforlife says: Jan 12, 2013 7:02 PM

    Garbage yards or not has nothing to do with it. Since when does racking up more yards than Jerry Rice in this day of no touch football have any merit.

    All the QB records and all the wide receiver records are tainted. Just imaging what Montana, Marino, Rice and others could have done in today”s game.

    I agree with Ryan who apparently wasn’t swayed by yards alone.

  85. funktron2x says: Jan 12, 2013 7:09 PM

    Gahh! For the last time… The Lions did not see a bunch of percent, and Calvin did not rack up a ton of garbage time yards. Stop the ignorance people!

  86. dkeyser says: Jan 12, 2013 7:11 PM

    If you really want to know how about you call his radio show on Sirius?
    I’m also pretty sure Tim Ryan has forgotten more about the game of football than you will ever know.

  87. prodigious1271 says: Jan 12, 2013 7:22 PM

    The Lions O had no run game this year, most games no clear #2 WR, sorry TE play, yet CJ set the single season record for yards. So how is it everyone knows where the the ball is going, yet no one can stop him? Answer is simple, beast. Drops? Very few drops in the end zone mind you, 5 td’s is the result of pathetic play calling not play making. TRoc is solid, missed the boat on this one. Wins are the measuring stick for greatness not TDs or yards. That said CJ will go down with Barry Sanders as one of the greatest players to play, nuetralized by the single most mediocre organization in the NFL.

  88. shutupbrees says: Jan 12, 2013 7:39 PM

    For the people harping on yards, and saying everyone who tries to rationalize Tim Ryan’s decision is an “idiot” …. Matt Stafford had like 4,800 yards and anyone who knows a lick about football would say he had a BAD season.

    Yards ARE overrated. Especially when your D is terrible, and you’re playing from behind every game.

    Calvin is the best WR in football, but its ok if someone thinks otherwise guys.

  89. z0inks says: Jan 12, 2013 7:57 PM

    Anyone who listens to his radio show on Sirius knows that Tim Ryan is an extremely intelligent and knowledgeable football guy, and a straight shooter to boot.

    If he voted two other guys in ahead of Calvin, he did so because he truly felt that they outperformed him. And I’ll guarantee you that Tim is perfectly willing to explain the reasoning behind his decision….even if it flies in the face of popular opinion.

    You may not agree with him….after all, most of his peers didn’t. But one thing is for sure….he won’t back down from it. He made his decision and cast his vote, and he’ll stand behind it all the way.

  90. 6thsense79 says: Jan 12, 2013 8:02 PM

    edwinmoses says: Jan 12, 2013 4:40 PM

    Michael David Smith: You think me pointing out an All-Pro vote is going to ruin his career? You seriously believe FOX is going to say, “Michael David Smith disagrees with Tim Ryan’s All-Pro voting! We must fire him at once!” Yeah, I don’t think that’s going to happen. ————————————————————————–Oh Michael. First off, I said TRY and ruin his career. Many mignons on this very popular site are easily persuaded especially w/ the headline put up.

    You highlight how CJ got a single season record but don’t provide the other side of the story on how he did. Let me ask you this, do you believe CJ is more deserving of the single season record or Jerry Rice?
    ———

    Let me get this one Mike Smith….

    Where do you get off even trying to determine if CJ is deserving of the single season receiving yards record? Did he not earn it? Then he deserves it.

  91. butkus54 says: Jan 12, 2013 8:18 PM

    49 of 50 voters thought Calvin deserved to be recognized as an All-PRO. The fact that one voter didn’t agree with them means nothing.
    In my opinion he is unquestionably deserving of the honor and if you asked every other team in the NFL if they would love to have Calvin on their team, I believe they would all say yes … and that vote would be unanimous.

  92. dlions18 says: Jan 12, 2013 8:24 PM

    Based off of this season and this season alone. If you could start the draft over and you could only draft WRs when would you draft Calvin Johnson? If you would draft CJ third then, in my book, you’re an idiot.

  93. canesfan56 says: Jan 12, 2013 9:19 PM

    As a medical doctor who listens to Tim and Pat frequently in the afternoons after a busy day at work, I believe it is quite likely that Mr. Ryan has forgotten more about professional football then Mr. Smith will ever learn. I agree with his Vote. The fact that you don’t, or 50 others don’t is not worth the time spent debating the issue..

  94. punkyqb says: Jan 12, 2013 9:28 PM

    I guess if megatron had that great of a year and helped his team that much he should also be voted MVP of the league.

  95. larryboodry says: Jan 12, 2013 9:59 PM

    Is CJ deserving of All-Pro honors for breaking the single-season receiving mark? Yes. Does doing so on a 4-12 team with only 5 Tds make him MORE deserving than Brandon Marshall, Dez Bryant, or Demaryius Thomas? No.

  96. pbizzy729 says: Jan 12, 2013 10:09 PM

    I wonder how many of you actually watched more than 1, the Thanksgiving game, of Lions games?

    If you did you would know that the Lions lost 3 games by more than 1 score. That means that they were in 9 of their 12 loses. Also did you know that Megatron was tackled on the 1 yard line like 5 – 6 times, which I believe all led to Lions TDs. And not to mention that every game he was double covered and sometimes even double covered with safety help over top.

    So don’t be a hater because you think he gets garbage time yards, he had 40 catches of 20+ yards and 92 First Downs. Yes he did everything in his power to help his team win, he doesn’t play Def or Special Teams which is the main reason the Lions lost, not their Offense.

  97. jeremycrowhurst says: Jan 12, 2013 11:04 PM

    If Cutler had thrown the ball even 600 times, then Marshall’s numbers extrapolate out to 158 catches for 2050 yards. Marshall’s numbers as a percentage of Chicago’s overall passing stats are absolutely sick, and certainly better than CJ’s (which, by the way, are outstanding in and of themselves).

    I get putting Marshall at #1. But I don’t understand how CJ doesn’t get the second slot.

    There have been any number of great receivers on lousy teams that threw the ball a whole lot late in their games, and none of them got anywhere near Rice’s record.

  98. butkus54 says: Jan 12, 2013 11:38 PM

    I honestly don’t know what the criteria is, but for 2013 the AP made Calvin Johnson and Brandon Marshall their 1st team All- PRO selections and named AJ Green and Andre Johnson to the the 2nd team.
    There are alot of guys worthy of consideration, including Dez Bryant and Demarious Thomas among others, but the voters felt these four were the most deserving of the honor this year?
    In Calvin’s case fair or not, leading the league in receiving yards probably had a big influence in their decision.

  99. metzgerf says: Jan 13, 2013 4:36 PM

    Tim Ryan should have his right to vote revoked. According to his logic, Anthony Johnson (RB, Carolina Panthers) was better than Barry Sanders because in 1996 the Panthers had a better record than the Lions. How asinine is this guy?? Get a clue, Ryan. Sheesh.

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