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Russell Wilson proves he’s the rookie of the year

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Two weeks ago today, we declared Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson to be the PFT offensive rookie of the year, based on the regular season.  Plenty of you disagreed.

Two weeks later, no one should.

With his performance on Sunday in Atlanta, the hometown of Fran Tarkenton, this neo-Tark showed that, in a class of great rookie quarterbacks, Wilson is in a class of his own.

We know, we know.  Robert Griffin III is the greater overall talent.  But Wilson has what Griffin lacks:  An indispensable instinct on how to avoid and/or absorb contact in a way that doesn’t cause injury.  When Griffin runs, there’s a subtle recklessness that now has his short-term and long-term future murky.  When Wilson runs, there’s a Barry Sanders-style awareness on how to take a hit and when to hit the ground.

Wilson’s intangibles extend beyond his own health.  When the Seahawks fell behind by 20 points in the first half, I mentioned on Twitter that Wilson becomes Seattle’s greatest asset in that situation, because he will never give up.  And while many quarterbacks have that same quality (plenty don’t), the difference is that Wilson doesn’t get flustered or frustrated in the face of adversity.  He just keeps doing what he does, unaffected by the circumstances.

That calming presence helped his teammates forget about the deficit and focus on doing what they do.  And do it they did.  And they did everything in their power to win the game, except maybe leaving too much time on the clock when they finally took the lead.

When the Associated Press finally pulls the sheet off the 2012 awards in 19 days, Wilson likely won’t be named the rookie of the year.  Sunday’s game bolsters the argument that the votes shouldn’t be taken right after the regular season ends.  Though delaying the process until the completion of the Super Bowl likely would skew the results of multiple awards toward members of the freshly-crowned NFL champion, maybe the voting should be postponed until after the conference title games or, at a minimum, until after the divisional round.

Regardless, if the votes were being cast today, Wilson would be the clear winner.  And whoever wins the actual award will know it.

And Wilson will have even more focus and quiet motivation to prove that he’s the best of the bunch.

And next year, he’ll be even better.

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  1. S.Nevada says: Jan 14, 2013 8:47 AM

    *Rookie of the last 2 months

  2. fuglyflorio says: Jan 14, 2013 8:48 AM

    He’s the best of this years fad … running QBs. But only time will tell if it’s going to last. ‘New things’ become ‘old things’ quickly in the NFL. Like they say, ‘the other guys get paid too’.

  3. gpatrick15 says: Jan 14, 2013 8:51 AM

    Rookie of the Year is a regular season award. Since that is the rule, the award could easily go to RG3 instead of Wilson. 4 Rookies have a case, so regardless of if it goes to Luck, RG3, Wilson, or Morris, the winner would have deserved it. Playoff results should have no bearing on regular season award results.

  4. bjs79 says: Jan 14, 2013 8:52 AM

    Andrew Luck turned a 2-14 team into a 11 win playoff team. The Seahawks already had a good defense and a strong running game. The Colts have neither. Luck is the clear choice in my opinion.

  5. thrillomania says: Jan 14, 2013 8:53 AM

    or maybe its a regular season award and what happens in the playoffs shouldn’t matter so the vote should be after week 17.

  6. bunkerhillbob says: Jan 14, 2013 8:57 AM

    What a great game and what resilience by the Seahawks. I thought they were going to pull off another miracle. You gotta love Wilson. Congrats to Seattle on a fine year.

  7. aceinthehole12 says: Jan 14, 2013 8:58 AM

    RGIII, Luck and Wilson all had fantastic seasons but Wilson was always my pick for ROY. Hard to say since I’m a Niners fan but I can’t hate when someone is ballin. Kid came out of nowhere and got(with help from the defense of course) Seattle back into the playoffs and legit contenders next season.

  8. hatesycophants says: Jan 14, 2013 8:59 AM

    I don’t think there’s any question about it. If there were, his presser after the loss should erase all doubt.

  9. thejabronisayz says: Jan 14, 2013 8:59 AM

    Logical voice disagrees.

  10. cooklynn17 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:00 AM

    Really, you mean with taking that sack at the end of the 1st half? Listen, the kid is awesome but that was a big mistake.

    BTW, the voting is all done before the playoffs begin.

  11. yarnadroj says: Jan 14, 2013 9:03 AM

    I completely get it if you prefer Wilson or RG3 over Luck. There’s arguments to be made for all three and their amazing first seasons, and admittedly probably better ones for Wilson..

    But to have an article about Rookie of the Year and literally not even mention Luck? o.O

  12. pacificnw7722 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:04 AM

    Living here in Washington State I get to listen to Russell Wilson interviews quite a bit. The kid is a pure winner in EVERY aspect of his life, he doesn’t dwell or live in the negative.

    It would be a damn shame if he doesn’t win ROY.

  13. karpsta says: Jan 14, 2013 9:06 AM

    I agree completely. Aaron Rodgers could learn a lot from watching Wilson. When Wilson was down he didn’t just start throwing wildly downfield like Rodgers has now been prone to do. He keeps the team calm and works the entire field picking up yardage and eventually a score. He’ll find his checkdowns and not just focus on home run balls and then mope when walking off the field after a quick 3 and out.

  14. jnewby74 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:13 AM

    Regardless of who should win the award, yesterday’s game should have no bearing. They are REGULAR season awards. Anything done in the postseason is irrelevant.

  15. hisgirlgotburrelled says: Jan 14, 2013 9:14 AM

    MVP’s and ROY’s are regular season awards. Why would you allow post season games to influence the votes?

  16. sakatak says: Jan 14, 2013 9:15 AM

    Well said Mike, I have said it before and I will say it again. Russell is the second coming of Tarkenton. Seattle is lucky to have him.

  17. timbuttrum says: Jan 14, 2013 9:15 AM

    As an RGIII fan and a Redskins fan, I say this is a no brainer. Wilson is special and deserves ROY.

  18. huhsj says: Jan 14, 2013 9:16 AM

    So his play in the playoffs should change someone’s opinion on a regular season award? Sure, that makes sense

  19. FinFan68 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:18 AM

    Wilson deserves that award. Luck will probably be great long term and RG3 is the most dynamic of those 3 but Wilson was solid and willed his team to wins. As for a running QB, I also noticed his ability to avoid hits. He just seems to play smarter in that regard. He will clean up those rookie mental issues and the Seahawks have found their long term solution at QB.

  20. discosucs2005 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:19 AM

    I think it’s best to cut the voting off after the regular season. Wouldn’t it get old have the Super Bowl MVP also named the MVP every year? Same goes for all the other awards.

    The RoY award particularly should be regular season only: many high draft picks end up on bad teams, and few would get a shot to compete for the award because no one would be talking about them once they were eliminated from playoff contention.

    I’m not saying Russell doesn’t deserve to win (I’m reading good arguments on all sides (Morris included)), I’m just saying it makes more sense to have the award be a regular season award. Winning in the post season is a reward all on its own.

  21. metalhead65 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:22 AM

    Wilson had a great year no doubt but did he take over a 2-14 team an lead them to the playoffs like Andrew Luck? was he the focus of the entire offense or did have have a solid running game to take the pressure off him? Name the colts running back or a receiver not named Reggie Wayne. Not a cots fan but Luck deserves it and should have apologize if he gets it.

  22. andyb053 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:23 AM

    Wilson’s ability to avoid injury makes him much more likely to enjoy a longer, and thus a potentially more successful, career than RG3. But it doesn’t make him better.

  23. raidmagic says: Jan 14, 2013 9:23 AM

    Sorry but it’s Luck. Did you see how bad that team was last year?
    Also they should promote their OC they were winning when he was coaching

  24. rodgers419 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:26 AM

    Open up RG3’s stats in your web browser. Then create a new tab and open up Wilson’s stats. Switch back and forth between them.

    Anyone who thinks Wilson is the ROTY over RG3 is a fool. Anyone who thinks Luck even deserves a mention is an even bigger fool.

  25. cowboyhater says: Jan 14, 2013 9:27 AM

    Hands down Wilson is the ROY. Luck had a good season, but showed some of youth with those picks, and RG3 just couldn’t stay healthy. Wilson persevered through training camp competition, and showed his worth all the way up to last nights game. The kid is a very good QB. Being a skins fans I can even see that. My order would be 1-Wilson, 2-RG3, 3-Luck, 4-Alfred Morris, and 5-Doug Martin

  26. pixelito says: Jan 14, 2013 9:28 AM

    Now that the RG3 fad is all but history, Wilson deserves the honors.

  27. jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says: Jan 14, 2013 9:29 AM

    Tough call, I really do like all of these rookie QB’s, they all seem like stand up guys and will provide a positive influence on the game for years to come. I think the way that Luck turned that team around and into the playoffs with a mediocre supporting cast at best, you have to consider him as the most valuable rookie, but the same could be said for Wilson and RGIII as well. Wouldn’t want to be the one making the decision. Cool to have these guys playing so well so fast, very exciting to watch.

  28. joecool16280 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:30 AM

    Isn’t this game about the end results? My vote goes to Wilson… and this is coming from a somewhat fearful Niner fan. He’s got the intangibles.

  29. rayphinkle says: Jan 14, 2013 9:31 AM

    I don’t want to take anything away from Russell Wilson, as he has definitely been the biggest suprise of all the rookie QB’s this year.

    However, like many have already said, this is a regular season award and RG3 has him beat in almost every catagory (with the exception of total passing TDs). And let us not forget that these numbers were put up by a guy that hasn’t been anywhere close to 100% for the 2nd half of the season.

    As far as Andrew Luck goes, I honestly can’t see someone win the ROTY award while nearly leading the entire NFL in turnovers. I applaud all of the 4th quarter comebacks he’s had this year but more times than not, it was his turnovers that put them in that position to begin with.

  30. oldschoolomen says: Jan 14, 2013 9:32 AM

    Didn’t Tarvaris Jackson take this same Seahawks team to the second round of the playoffs two years ago?

    Andrew Luck took a 2-14 team to the playoffs with an old defense, no viable running game, Reggie Wayne and two rookie tight ends. The only QB taken 1 overall to lead his team to the playoffs in the first year.

  31. seeptermean says: Jan 14, 2013 9:32 AM

    It’s amazing watching guys like Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson run the ball. They look so much more graceful than RG3 does.

  32. circuscivics says: Jan 14, 2013 9:33 AM

    To those who look at simple stats that claim that RG3 or Luck deserves the award, might i enlighten you. Firts, the claim that RW had such an awesome defense and running game, it was the same awesome defense that allowed chicago to get into field goal range in about 20 secs for a game tying FG, the dolphins in under a min for a game winning TD, and most recently atlanta in under 31 secs. Great defenses don’t allow that. Since RW got so much help from his team, point me to a pre-season pronagstication that had seattle being dominant? Tell me who said prior to the season that seattle was going to be a really good team. Lynch had his best year ever, but if you think it’s coincidence and not because of the threat of Wilson, then your thinking too shallow.

    As for Luck, maybe his defense was so bad because he kept them on the field so much. He had over 20 turnovers. over 20! Any defense will struggle under that much pressure. Also, can I mention he played one of the easiest schedules, which will certainly help improve your wins.

    The funny thing though, is that RG3 acutally had it easier than even Luck. He played slighlty better teams than Luck, but faced much worse defenses. (see footballoutsiders).

    I can go on and on, but if you can’t get pass your bias and stop being mesnerized by marketing and media, and look at the quality of play by these QB’s, then i concede that there is nothing I can say to change your mind. I’m an Eagles fan and come with a totally objective point of view. RW is clearly the class of this rookie class.

  33. stillers6 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:33 AM

    This is no knock on Wilson, the guy is really something. The bottom line is the Seahawks are a really good team, and he certainly adds to that, but what luck did with a far less talented team + taking into account the coaching situation in Indy still makes me side with luck. Lets not all think Bruce Arians steadied that ship, it was Andrew luck and that has to count a ton.

  34. rarelyclever says: Jan 14, 2013 9:33 AM

    Russel Wilson had a very impressive year for a rookie QB. In maybe any other year, he, Robbert Griffin, and Alfred Morris would all be serious contenders for rookie of the year.

    This year, however, I don’t think you need to look any further than the first pick in the draft. Andrew Luck took the worst team in the league (and boy, the Colts were the worst by a wide margin) and transformed them into a playoff team. Sure, those other rookies made the playoffs, but they each played for better teams with weapons around them. The Colts were so terribly worse off before they had Luck that it makes it all the more obvious how valuable he is.

    That’s what the rookie of the year award is about; essentially the MVP among first-year players. That’s Luck this year.

  35. beastmode5150 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:33 AM

    It’s a shame that those of you that don’t think Russell deserves it only got to watch him in the playoffs, and just read box scores. Hawks fans know exactly what Florio means, and he is correct. Quit hating and look at all of the rookie records he broke. We have EASILY the best leader the second youngest team in the NFL could ever ask for. The hawks will be a force for a decade. Keep hating, we love having the best young QB, best young team and the city voted year after year as one of the best places to love and raise a family in the country. Taste it.

  36. skinsfan28 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:35 AM

    Wilson won 1 rookie of the week (Same as Kirk Cousins, Doug Martin and Trent Richardson). Andrew Luck won 3 Rookie of the week awards, same as Alfred Morris. Robert Griffin III won 7 and didn’t play in 1.5 games or he likely would have won even more. All of these rookies had great years, but Griffin should win RoY!

  37. tcmiller30 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:35 AM

    Wilson’s defense won them a lot of games early on. He had a GREAT year, no doubt about it, and I’d say he is definitely the most improved QB of this class by a landslide.

    That said, I’d still give the award to RG3. He was one of the most efficient QBs in the league, putting up points, keeping his team in games, and not turning the ball over. He brought a much worse WAS team to the playoffs, especially after injuries took away two of their best defensive players.

    Playoffs have no bearing on this award, so what Seattle did in Atlanta, though impressive, doesn’t matter.

  38. onearmsteven says: Jan 14, 2013 9:36 AM

    bjs79 says:
    Jan 14, 2013 8:52 AM
    Andrew Luck turned a 2-14 team into a 11 win playoff team. The Seahawks already had a good defense and a strong running game. The Colts have neither. Luck is the clear choice in my opinion.

    a very similar team had 10 wins the season before they won 2 games, too. they had 2 wins because freaking dan orlovsky was their qb

  39. bkostela says: Jan 14, 2013 9:38 AM

    We know, we know. Robert Griffin III is the greater overall talent.
    __________________________

    if “talent” is measured only by 40-yd dash time, then yes. however, russell is a more poised passer and is capable of running an entire playbook, not just read-option plays. when he scrambled away from the blitzing linebacker who had him dead to rights in the 4th quarter yesterday, he demonstrated that he can match griffin’s athleticism. to top it off, he finished the game with all of his knee ligaments in tact.

  40. httredskins says: Jan 14, 2013 9:40 AM

    Aren’t these types of awards regular season only and not post-season? If it’s only regular season, I would say Luck is going to get it. In which case, Wilson’s performance yesterday would not have an impact on the ROY outcome

  41. dolphins4 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:41 AM

    Wilson is the reason the Seahawks made the playoffs and won a round in the playoffs.If they wouldn’t have had him they probably would have been 5-11.

  42. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Jan 14, 2013 9:43 AM

    1 Wilson – Did most with least help. He had the best natural winning ability of all the rookies. I seen him take the team on his back and lead them to one win in the playoff. Very Impressive. – 2 Luck – turned around a 2-14 team. With a few additions he can lead this team to a Superbowl – 3 Morris – Ran for good yards even though the opposing teams were expecting the run bc the Skins had no passing QB. If the Skins can find a good pocket QB, which i think they have in Cousins then they will be contenders but if they try the Michael Vick project 2, they will fail miserably. – 4 Richardson – Again ran well on a team with poor passing but there is not promise for the Browns – 5 T.Y. Hilton – Nice receiver, good routes and quick – 6 Kuechly – Good prowess and tackling, great reader of the game. – 7 RG3 – decent running back behind Morris but cannot pass for over 200 yards in a game was far more impressed by his backup in the Ravens game saving their season. RG3 is the reason they did not seed higher in the devision hence having to face a team with a far superior QB injuring him. . . . again.

  43. someidiotfromouthereintheprojects says: Jan 14, 2013 9:43 AM

    some of you people are truly prisoners of the moment.

    andrew luck is the OROY and luke keuchly is the DROY. Period.

    And a lot of you bozos were squealing this same argument last year about andy dalton after the bengals backed into the playoffs.

    the players who had the biggest season, the biggest impact on their team, and biggest impact on the league are the ones who deserve ROY.

    it’s laughable to suggest russell wilson and the seattle wolfpack offense made a bigger impact than luck or rg3.

  44. cowboyhater says: Jan 14, 2013 9:44 AM

    Just wanted to chime in on the RG3 “fad” haters. First of all, if you saw the Niner game, this style of play is not a fad, and secondly RG3 is a QB first. He just happens to be very athletic. Time will tell, but as a skins fan, I know we have our “franchise” QB, and he will prove his worth in the pocket, and not using that “pistol” offense. It’s funny how I continue to see the venom being spewed on this site just because RG3 is a redskin. You guys keep that trash talking, and it will bring out that same trash talk from the skins fans that get on here and talk sh*t. Keep feeding fuel to the fire.

  45. klownboy says: Jan 14, 2013 9:47 AM

    I’m guessing RG3 will win it, but he should give that award to Wilson.

  46. snowpea84 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:48 AM

    Post season is not included.

  47. crush22 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:53 AM

    No mention of Luck in the entire article…..you know, the one who took a 2-14 team to 11-5…..the one who broke all of the rookie records?

  48. 618t says: Jan 14, 2013 9:54 AM

    Russell Wilson is the ROY. Here’s why. For goodness sakes the kid is no more than 5’8 playing with
    Goliaths! No one no one expected this kid to do what he has accomplished!

  49. udontknowjacku says: Jan 14, 2013 9:54 AM

    stats say it all…..RG3

  50. earvinmagicjackson says: Jan 14, 2013 9:57 AM

    All three of the rookie quarterback phenoms are excellent talents and ambassadors of the sport. I would have ZERO problem if ROY was a “co” affair this year.

  51. detroitrollin22 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:57 AM

    Ryan Broyles for ROY12….. Oh wait, he had a torn ACL coming into the Draft & then Torn his other ACL during this season.

    Way to Draft, Mayhew.

  52. S.Nevada says: Jan 14, 2013 9:59 AM

    Looks like Luck will win ‘Rex Grossman impersonation of the year’ Congrats!

  53. madpunter88 says: Jan 14, 2013 9:59 AM

    After yesterday’s game I am literally at a loss of words to describe Wilson. I do not intend to sound melodramatic either. You cannot adequately describe the skill and confidence he brought to that game in willing that team to come back from a 20 point 4th quarter deficit.

    RG3 will win ROY of the year and probably should based on the regular season since he got more attention earlier and had slightly better numbers.

    It is inaccurate to lump him in with other run-first quarterbacks. He can run and uses it to great skill. But he is not running with abandon or recklessly. In fact, the Seahawks largely avoided the read-option plays yesterday and shredded the Falcons secondary with a passing attack.

  54. redskinsfan424 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:00 AM

    I will concur with what RG3 said earlier this year, that the ROY should be Alfred Morris

  55. gnorules says: Jan 14, 2013 10:00 AM

    All three, Wilson, Luck and RG3 were brilliant this year. As an Eagles fan I don’t like RG3 in the division, but he is just so impressive to watch play. If I could have picked one of the three QB’s to draft for the long term it would be Luck. But in naming the rookie of the year I think I would have to pick Wilson this year. The reason why I would have to pick him is that, unlike RG3 and Luck who were handed their starting job, Wilson had to earn it. He played solid, smart ball all year long and everyone banged on him before the draft saying that he was too short to play the position effectively. It’s no knock on any of these guys, but I think Wilson is the ROY.

  56. stillers6 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:01 AM

    While I made an earlier post saying that I believe Luck should win the award, and I still side with that, the real story should simply be how incredible this rookie qb class is and that is really the end of it. Too many times people get caught up in trying to put another player above another or maybe more so trying to put down a certain player for whatever reasons. The winner here is the NFL and their fans because not only did 3 rookie qb’s have incredible rookie seasons, they all carried themselves like 10 year veterans after the game and off the field as well. It’s a fun argument to have about ROY but lets all remember that no matter how you slice it these 3 really need to be celebrated no matter who wins the award.

  57. glazerh8er says: Jan 14, 2013 10:05 AM

    Morris drives a Mazda with over 100K miles on it. He gets the award in my opinion for being the first draftee to act like a legitimately humble and thrifty person with their money perhaps in football history. And he came out of nowhere FIU.

  58. jm91rs says: Jan 14, 2013 10:09 AM

    “When Wilson runs, there’s a Barry Sanders-style awareness on how to take a hit and when to hit the ground.”

    That’s a good way to put it. I really haven’t seen Wilson play much before the last two weeks, but I like the way he runs. When he tucks the ball he doesn’t look super fast (I think even tebow has a faster 40), but he’s fast enough. He avoids contact and gets down at the right time. When he does get tackled it seems that he spins out of it enough to fall forward and avoid a crushing hit. I won’t say he’s better than RGIII but it does seem like he might last longer in this league.

  59. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Jan 14, 2013 10:09 AM

    cowboyhater says: Jan 14, 2013 9:44 AM

    Just wanted to chime in on the RG3 “fad” haters. First of all, if you saw the Niner game, this style of play is not a fad, and secondly RG3 is a QB first. He just happens to be very athletic. Time will tell, but as a skins fan, I know we have our “franchise” QB, and he will prove his worth in the pocket, and not using that “pistol” offense. It’s funny how I continue to see the venom being spewed on this site just because RG3 is a redskin. You guys keep that trash talking, and it will bring out that same trash talk from the skins fans that get on here and talk sh*t. Keep feeding fuel to the fire.

    ____________________________________

    Nobody is hating on him. Everyone gave props to Morris, he’s a Redskin why don’t we hate on him? Point is we have seen Vick, who is essentially, the same QB as RG3, who in his first full season passed for just under 200 yards per game and only 8 picks. If RG3 is not a running QB then why do the? run an option/pistol offense? Why was he hurt when running against the Ravens? Why did he average under 200 yards passing this season? Why did he have 120 rushing attempts? Why did he have 12 Fumbles? (one of those fumble doesn’t hop into Garcons hands for a TD and you would be hating RG3 too right now). Why was he 25th in the league in Passing attempts? 33rd in the league in rushing attempts including Running backs! dude you need to be realistic, he will not last in the NFL. He’s had a career threatening injury.

  60. dirtyjersey9er says: Jan 14, 2013 10:10 AM

    Luck and Wilson are the two who should get the consideration. But Luck did far more with far less. And let’s not forget their Head Coach was out most of the season which would have crippled most teams considered to be rebuilding. Luck in Seattle I think has a similar result but I don’t know if Wilson could have done the same on a less talented roster as a rookie. I do think Wilson on a lesser roster would have asserted himself as one of the top of this class year 2 or 3 if drafted on a lesser team.

    Also playoffs aren’t factored because some of the more talanted rookies typically don’t see the playoffs in year 1 and they want all rookies considered.

  61. badguy711 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:15 AM

    oldschoolomen said:
    Didn’t Tarvaris Jackson take this same Seahawks team to the second round of the playoffs two years ago?
    —–
    That was Matt Hasselbeck, and the team was 7-9. Also 7-9 with Jackson last year.

  62. zaggs says: Jan 14, 2013 10:16 AM

    Also Wilson has not put his team in a bad position because of his pride. Unlike RGIII.

  63. skinsfaninnebraska says: Jan 14, 2013 10:21 AM

    For all you who are criticizing the Skins coaches for risking RGIII’s health by calling running plays for him: his concussion against ATL came on a pass-play scramble, and his knee injury against BAL came on a pass-play scramble. Designed runs are actually safer than scrambles, because the QB/ball-carrier has more of an idea where people are and how to avoid taking bad hits.

    Does he need to become smarter and maybe less aggressive when he does run the ball? Probably, and he’s a smart enough guy to learn that.

    BTW, the fan voting is still open for the NFL Rookie of the Year Award at NFL.com, so if you don’t think you’re guy has gotten a fair shake, then you can go vote for him there until Jan 29th or so.

  64. deddmunnie says: Jan 14, 2013 10:21 AM

    Let’s be real…. RG3’s injury is why Wilson was in the playoffs. And 80% RG3 wins that game.

  65. skinsfan28 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:24 AM

    I am not even sure where to start picking apart the ignorant statement by “Giantsfan…”

    “7 RG3 – decent running back behind Morris but cannot pass for over 200 yards in a game…”

    RG3 had 9 games with over 200 yards passing and the last 2 games against Dallas and Eagles the coaches chose to feed Morris the ball and hardly pass at all. Griffin is the protype dual-threat QB since in addition to his 3,200 passing yards he also added 815 rushing yards. Wilson had 3,118 passing yards and 489 rushing yards. Do the math as to who had the better year.

    “RG3 is the reason they did not seed higher in the devision hence having to face a team with a far superior QB injuring him. . . . again.”

    If you mean “Division”, the Skins won the NFC East and only the Falcons, Packers and Niners were seeded higher than Skins.

    Also Russell Wilson didn’t injure RG3, neither did the Seahawks strong defense, his knee just wasn’t 100% and he pushed it too much. See stats above as two who is the better QB, to your “Superior QB” nonsense.

    I don’t want to take anything away from the way the Seahawks played in the playoffs, but if Griffin hadn’t reinjured his knee in the first quarter of that game Skins could have taken that one (14-0 in 1st qtr!).

  66. musicman495 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:26 AM

    Wake up sheeple. The reason Seattle and San Francisco started running the offenses theya re now running with the players they are now using is that Washington and RG3 showed them the road map. NO ONE was running that offense in the NFL until he arrived. He is the Offensive Player of the Year for changing the league, as much as for any statistical accomplishment.

  67. dolphinsfan72 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:27 AM

    That makes it even better that Tannehill beat him mono e mono!

  68. countduku says: Jan 14, 2013 10:31 AM

    I’d still take Andrew Luck 7 days a week over Russell Wilson. If you put Luck on the Seahawks, they’d still be playing.

  69. 2difshoe says: Jan 14, 2013 10:32 AM

    As a Bear fan, I would swap Cutler for Wilson in a second….I just don’t think Seattle would be so foolish.

    This cat can play !

  70. rockthered1286 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:38 AM

    “…..the difference is that Wilson doesn’t get flustered or frustrated in the face of adversity. He just keeps doing what he does, unaffected by the circumstances.”

    Flacco has basically has gone about his business the same exact way (Joe Cool) for 5 years in the league now. He doesn’t get up in players faces. When the team gets down he goes out and gets it done. He’s calm. Collected. Cool. But instead of praise?? Joe gets smacked down by media for not being vocal enough, and hears “how can you be a leader if you don’t yell and scream and get pumped up all the time?”

    Interesting…

  71. rfoster75 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:43 AM

    Russel wilson has a hell of a team and defense behind him. It is still very debatable. RG3 has a lot less talent around him, and a very suspect defense. and his team won the NFC east.

  72. jeffesky says: Jan 14, 2013 10:46 AM

    well ROY is cool for any of these guys but in the end ,those of us that are Hawks,Skins and Colts fans we now have our Rogers,Manning and Brady, how cool is that! As a Hawks fan RW3 makes me feel like we can compete in the future for a possible SB win. As those of us that are fans of these guys saw this year ,all 3 got thier teams into the post season and with double digit wins. Awesome job by them. It hurts like crazy to loose the way we all did but at least we have our future QBs, GO HAWKS!!

  73. ndizzl says: Jan 14, 2013 10:52 AM

    Let RG3 have it, he probably wont play another snap for the rest of his life.

  74. fwippel says: Jan 14, 2013 10:53 AM

    No arguments here, not now or two weeks ago.

    True, RGIII and Andrew Luck had fantastic rookie seasons. All three QBs started from day one, and all three were equally valuable to their team’s success. All three deserve to be recognized, but there’s only one award.

    Hey, in a normal year, Thomas Davis of the Panthers would have won the comeback player of the year award this year. There aren’t three awards, and this wasn’t a normal year.

  75. cleminem757 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:53 AM

    Remember last season when people were questioning whether the Colts were trying to lose to obtain the #1 draft pick?? Reggie Wayne mostly disappeared for that season after being the best reciever since Harrison?? Magically Luck comes in and looks like a typical rookie, but his team somehow bails him out week after week. I think the question of them throwing their season away was answered. Russell Wilson is a great kid and his team also bailed him out a lot especially earlier in the season. So that leaves no question that the top 2 rookies this year were RGIII and Alfred Morris. Maybe they can share the ROY!!!

  76. nebster21 says: Jan 14, 2013 10:57 AM

    Lets see

    He beat a team where the opposing QB’s knee was pretty much mush.

    He LOST to a team where the opposing team chokes in the playoffs.

    The only thing he lead other rookie QB’s in is passing TDs. one of those which got around 50 people fired. Which also brings into consideration. if he is in the record books does there belong an * next to his name for the call that got the replacement refs fired?

  77. cmonelisha says: Jan 14, 2013 10:57 AM

    russell wilson should win ROY hands down. just like AmvP gets mvp

  78. cheddarrob says: Jan 14, 2013 11:02 AM

    Wilson has 3 days to throw the ball just about every time he drops back.

  79. pillowporkers says: Jan 14, 2013 11:03 AM

    We should not vote for the ROY based on the postseason. That’s why the votes are taken right after the season, and I should stay that way. One game in the postseason shouldn’t skew the voting for the regular season awards based on the combination of 16 games.

  80. beastmode5150 says: Jan 14, 2013 11:04 AM

    I guarantee 100% that skins fans if put on a lie detector right now would rather have Wilson than RGKnee.

  81. hendawg21 says: Jan 14, 2013 11:13 AM

    First the hit that RGIII took was just one of those things that happen in football, it’s not like to he took more hits than most other QB’s. That being said I don’t think part of the ROY voting process ask the question so who was able to avoid more hits??? I like Russell Wilson, however, his entire body of work over the season doesn’t match RGIII’s, Wilson’s has been over the last 2 months…and i’d really would have loved to seen the matchup between Seattle and Washington with a healthy RGIII vs the Seattle defense…as i’m sure that game would’ve really been a must see and probably better than the Atlanta vs Seattle game…of course the way both teams look i’m sure next years post season will have these two probably matching up once again.

  82. jbcommonsense says: Jan 14, 2013 11:14 AM

    Regular season stats are the ONLY fair barometer of a ROY evaluation. By that measurement RGIII is easily the ROY winner.

  83. cincyorangenblack says: Jan 14, 2013 11:15 AM

    So you’re saying he should win it based on the exact criteria from last year that allowed Andy Dalton to not win the award, and instead Cam Newton got it….?

  84. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Jan 14, 2013 11:24 AM

    am not even sure where to start picking apart the ignorant statement by “Giantsfan…”

    “7 RG3 – decent running back behind Morris but cannot pass for over 200 yards in a game…”

    RG3 had 9 games with over 200 yards passing and the last 2 games against Dallas and Eagles the coaches chose to feed Morris the ball and hardly pass at all. Griffin is the protype dual-threat QB since in addition to his 3,200 passing yards he also added 815 rushing yards. Wilson had 3,118 passing yards and 489 rushing yards. Do the math as to who had the better year.

    “RG3 is the reason they did not seed higher in the devision hence having to face a team with a far superior QB injuring him. . . . again.”

    If you mean “Division”, the Skins won the NFC East and only the Falcons, Packers and Niners were seeded higher than Skins.

    Also Russell Wilson didn’t injure RG3, neither did the Seahawks strong defense, his knee just wasn’t 100% and he pushed it too much. See stats above as two who is the better QB, to your “Superior QB” nonsense.

    I don’t want to take anything away from the way the Seahawks played in the playoffs, but if Griffin hadn’t reinjured his knee in the first quarter of that game Skins could have taken that one (14-0 in 1st qtr!).

    __________________________________
    Im an Eagles fan due to losing a bet fist of all.

    Yes RG3 had 9 games over two hundred but what about the remaining 7? He couldn’t even pass for over 200 yards against the woeful giants. Cousins came in against the Ravens and embarrassed RG3 by winning the game RG3 couldn’t.

    Russel Wilson didn’t injure RG3 but Wilson finished the game and went through the season healthy.

    Yes I meant division, excuse the typo Hemingway. Still the Skins were the lowest seeded Division winner.

    Please reply to my second post..

    Why did he average under 200 yards passing this season? Why did he have 120 rushing attempts? Why did he have 12 Fumbles? (one of those fumble doesn’t hop into Garcons hands for a TD and you would be hating RG3 too right now). Why was he 25th in the league in Passing attempts? 33rd in the league in rushing attempts including Running backs! dude you need to be realistic, he will not last in the NFL. He’s had a career threatening injury.

  85. JackAcid says: Jan 14, 2013 11:24 AM

    Seahawk fans better hope he doesn’t Mirer/VY/Cam/Bradford next year (look great in rookie year then regress.)

  86. cieronjhamblin says: Jan 14, 2013 11:30 AM

    I love how everyone remembers that the 2011 Colts only won 2 games but the same people never acknowledge that in 2010 they won 10 games and the year before that they went to the Superbowl. They weren’t your average 2 win team and had they wanted to they could have plugged in any reasonable backup and won maybe 6 or more games. The Colts sabotaged their season by sticking with Curtis Painter to get themselves a high draft pick.
    Andrew Luck didn’t singlehandedly turn a 2 win team into an 11 win team, they were already pretty decent. Besides he also played one of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year, Russell Wilson played the 2nd hardest.

  87. stevenkramer619 says: Jan 14, 2013 11:30 AM

    Playoff stats don’t even count to NFL player’s career statistics so why should the Playoffs count towards Rookie of the Year and MVP. If they did, you’d have what baseball has, which means means best player on best team.

  88. 106reasons says: Jan 14, 2013 11:49 AM

    Given that this is based entirely on the regular season, the award goes to RG3.

    You could argue if it included the playoffs, but it doesn’t. RG3 was statistically dominant and took a 3-6 team with a terrible defense to 10-6…on an injured knee. Along the way, he put together a perfect game (which he followed by two more quarters of perfection). He put together the best rookie QB season ever, statistically speaking — and if you want to take statistics out of it, the case for him is just as strong as any others.

    Wilson’s last few games of the regular season were good, and he certainly deserves to be applauded and deserves RG3’s pro bowl spot. I love RW and hope he has a long, successful NFL career. I also hope the same for RG3, and I can’t wrap my mind around the people wishing him ill.

  89. frozen0ne says: Jan 14, 2013 11:55 AM

    I have loved watching them all, but could we quit the 2-14 argument. Curtis Painter took a 10-6 team to 2-14…Andrew Luck just took them back to where they’d been for 10 years.

  90. unlost1 says: Jan 14, 2013 11:55 AM

    I vote for either LUCK (over 4000 yds) or RG3 (over 300 yds, 5 INT) for sure.
    Sincerely,
    Matt Flynn

  91. joetoronto says: Jan 14, 2013 11:59 AM

    It’s Andrew Luck all the way, not Wilson.

    How can you give it to a QB that threw for less than 180 yards per game?

  92. cpo187 says: Jan 14, 2013 12:01 PM

    I wish Matt Kalil would get consideration, but understand why he doesn’t.

    Why do you think AP suddenly had his best season ever? Kalil was a quiet BEAST every game this season.

  93. bigbluenationdb says: Jan 14, 2013 12:02 PM

    I have watched all three (Luck, Wilson and RGII) play plenty of games this year. My vote still goes to Luck for ROY. People in the above post want to comment on the turnover by Luck. He threw the ball over 200 more times then Wilson and RG3.

    Luck came out the gates running a pro-style offense with no running game and no defense. He did throw 18 INTs but 7 of those came in his first 5 starts (3 in his first game start against Chicago). Chicagos defense was making every QB look like a rookie early in the season.

    In his first 5 starts he threw the ball over 40 times in four of those games. Wilson or RG3 was baby set for the most of the season. RG3 still hasn’t been given the full playbook by the Skins. Wilson got more of the offense as the season went on. Lets not forget Wilson lost on Arizona, Miami and St. Louis.

    Luck, Wilson, Alford Morris and RG3. That is how I see the ROY voting.

  94. sandersmarcus10 says: Jan 14, 2013 12:03 PM

    Award is for regular season if not AP would have broken the rushing record. But MOBILE Qbs are not a fad that will fade away I think there will be more QBs that are mobile but if you look at RG3 and Russel Wilson they just dont run first they look to use there arm and there there skills and use there legs to get out of the pocket.

  95. shlort says: Jan 14, 2013 12:14 PM

    Wilson did alright, but he didnt get near the press coverage that Griffin and Luck recieved.

    Who should be the rookie of the year? Who cares? One season doesnt make a career in the NFL. Lets see which of these QBs fades into obscurity next season.

    Players make plays on a team. Lose a couple play makers and your Rookie of the Year guy is all the sudden the biggest draft bust in history. It is that simple and it happens all the time. Lots of “One year wonders” have come and gone since I started watching the game.

  96. thegreatgabbert says: Jan 14, 2013 12:14 PM

    Russell is out to prove that a 5 foot 7 inch quarterback CAN succeed in the NFL.

  97. shlort says: Jan 14, 2013 12:23 PM

    sandersmarcus10 says:Jan 14, 2013 12:03 PM

    Award is for regular season if not AP would have broken the rushing record. But MOBILE Qbs are not a fad that will fade away I think there will be more QBs that are mobile but if you look at RG3 and Russel Wilson they just dont run first they look to use there arm and there there skills and use there legs to get out of the pocket.
    ________________________________

    It is a fad if you look at it for what it is. Eventually these players will have to be willing to throw as their primary option.

    Wilson isnt a “Runnig QB” at all. They dont use read option stuff there. it is a pro-style offense he is running.

    Another thing about these fad guys. Where are all these “Mobile QBs” going to come from? There arent too many that can do what some of these players can do. Not to mention, the size of that style of QB makes it impossible do build a franchise around them. Gotta replace them every few years and hope you can get another one just like them?

    Throwing the ball is what the NFL is all about. If the NFL turns into 32 teams using the run option, it will go out of business. No one will want to watch that. We will start seeing games with final scores of 3-0 because no one can pass and the D stacks the box. Run 3 times and punt. The Punter will be the teams most valuable player. We just wont see 32 guys coming out of college that can throw and run and be durable enough to take a beating. Parity will be done because 3 or 4 teams will have guys that can win and that is who will always be in the SB. Goodell would make a rule to keep QBs from running if it ended up catching on. He knows the NFL would be done. That is why it is a fad.

  98. manhorse69 says: Jan 14, 2013 12:23 PM

    Biggest difference between Wilson and RGIII and the reason he takes fewer hits is that Wilson is much more of a pass first QB with good accuracy and a good deep ball. Many of his runs are set up by the fact that he’s a heavy threat to pass it first, opening up the field in front of him which he then takes in big chunks. He’s essentially getting coverage first downs rather than coverage sacks. RGIII seems to run to set up his passes and has more designed runs, making his threat of running enough to freeze the LBs allowing him to complete more intermediate passes. Not saying either style is better but Wilson’s seems to be more sustainable. Griffin can certainly get there though by leaning on Morris and doing less of the zone read stuff that forces him to run.

  99. qdog112 says: Jan 14, 2013 12:26 PM

    Clearly Wilson is the ROY and should get votes for the MVP. The football world is just seeing what I have witnessed for 6 years.

    I have said all along that Wilson does everything better than Luck and only RG3’s deep pass is better. If you’re totally objective, you have to admit, THE COMMANDER is better on the field and in preparation.

  100. justintuckrule says: Jan 14, 2013 12:26 PM

    I hope defensive coordinators around the league meet for a summit and figure out a way to stop the read-option already. Once they do, then we’ll see which of these flash in the pan QBs are worth their salt.

  101. djcologne says: Jan 14, 2013 12:33 PM

    RGIII Deserves it….he took a hapless, bumbling Redskin team that couldn’t win in any facet of the game and turned them into a playoff team.

  102. 88ibis says: Jan 14, 2013 12:38 PM

    RW got better almost every week. His best game was the divisional round of the playoffs. He was the most improved rookie of the year. If there was a rookie of the half season, he’d get it. If there was an award for leadership skills by a rookie he’d win it. If there was an award for rookie surprise of the year he’d get it.

    Plain old rookie of the year? Top 3.

  103. themackstrong says: Jan 14, 2013 12:40 PM

    It’s funny listening to Redskin fans talk about Pepsi rookie of the week. There was one week where Wilson threw 4 TD’s against the 49ers (1 rated defense at the time) in a beatdown, RG3 scored 2 on terrible Eagles team and Skin fans stuffed the box and got RG3 Rookie of the week.

    Russell Wilson had an amazing season with his 26 TD’S and took over some games at the end. Each Rookie shined in their own way but watching him bring his team back and throw for nearly 400 yards and rush for 60 was special. Class act kid and will be even better next year.

  104. thraiderskin says: Jan 14, 2013 12:41 PM

    I’m a Redskins fan, but I think Wilson’s post-season is the tipping point. In all honesty, I had a hard time thinking which rookie-QB stud deserved it, they all had their great moments and bad moments. Too me, they all were very deserving, but Wilson edges out RGIII and Luck.

  105. txnative61 says: Jan 14, 2013 12:41 PM

    The highest picks to the worst team argument holds for ROY being only regular season play. Its’ all opinion though, and I can presently consider anything I like. My person is the one that needs the most validation. Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson far exceeded expectations and seem content with their seasons. RGIII both needs and deserves to win simply because he may not have other chances for recognition.

  106. baywatchboy says: Jan 14, 2013 12:42 PM

    As a Redskins fan it bothers me that Morris doesn’t get more consideration for ROY. I’m not saying he should win it, but what he did, behind a not so great OL, is pretty incredible. With that being said, I would give the award to Luck.

  107. norcalseahawkfan says: Jan 14, 2013 12:42 PM

    Russell Wilson is the Seahawks ROY, and we dont care if he gets some title that everyone will say he does not deserve. He is ours, and I feel we are lucky to have him!
    This kid is going to be around for awhile.

  108. defscottyb says: Jan 14, 2013 12:43 PM

    Avg at best, fast runner though

  109. shlort says: Jan 14, 2013 12:47 PM

    justintuckrule says:Jan 14, 2013 12:26 PM

    I hope defensive coordinators around the league meet for a summit and figure out a way to stop the read-option already. Once they do, then we’ll see which of these flash in the pan QBs are worth their salt.
    __________________________________

    I bet they are working on something to out-scheme the scheme right now. One thing that will be gone is the 3-4 Defense. That Defense is useless against the run most of the time, and completely useless against the read option.

    Not to worry though. This “pistol” style offense and the like wont catch on this time either. It didnt catch on last time, or the time before that. Washington used it all season and may have lost their QB to a career ending injury. Teams will look at the value of that and compare it to the risk. Not to mention, it will be boring football to watch and it will start losing ratings to the info-mercial on the other station. hahaha.

  110. pizzon says: Jan 14, 2013 12:50 PM

    Alfred Morris should get the ROY award if not for his success running the ball the Redskins dont make the playoffs and RG3 would have been killed a long time ago.

  111. loxtuxderthemoox says: Jan 14, 2013 12:53 PM

    The whole “luck had a horrible defense and running game” argument is now resting in peace.. The seattle seahawks defense played horrible against atlanta, and beastmode? Must have left his skittles in seattle.. Russel wilson did somthing andrew luck couldnt hope to do in his rookie year.. Win a playoff game. Twice. 388 yards with two touchdowns.. Those are winner numbers.. Manning numbers.. Brady numbers.. He couldnt help that his defense couldnt hold on for 30 seconds. If I was coach I just may have let him play defense.. It couldnt hurt after all.. But enough about his ridiculouse poise when down twenty to zero, his never flinch attitude and all the numbers.. How about that defense?.. And not to mention marshawn lynch!!.. Uhh ohh yeah I forgot.. 2-14, 0-100 I dont care.. And neither should you.. Russel wilson ROY

  112. beavertonsteve says: Jan 14, 2013 12:55 PM

    Actually this year’s ROY voting should be extremely close since there are three or arguably even four very qualified candidates who stood out for different reasons. That’s what makes all the comments of “My guy is clearly/obviously/no doubt the winner and if you disagree you’re an idiot/moron/stupid” so hilarious. There won’t be a clear cut winner and votes will be split depending on how much each voter values wins, stats, surrounding talent, hype, etc.

  113. dukemarc says: Jan 14, 2013 12:55 PM

    Matt Ryan’s terribly thrown INT is the only reason this game got close….

  114. bigred0021 says: Jan 14, 2013 12:55 PM

    My vote is for Wilson, but to be honest he won’t care one way or another if he is honored. Either way he’ll spend this offseason doing everything in his power to be even better than next year. That is why I love Russell Wilson.

    Let RG3 have it – it very well be the only hardware the guy will ever have a chance at…

    As for Luck, I’ll agree the turnaround is pretty impressive but I think their schedule was extremely weak (as it should have been for the worst team last year). Put him in any NFC division and depending on his crossover games the Colts would be lucky to win 5 games this year.

  115. mojosmagic says: Jan 14, 2013 12:56 PM

    I sat screaming at the TV for the Eagles to draft this kid with one of their two second round picks. As always they didn’t hear me. Great kid, fantastic QB who is hands down rookie of the year. Good luck Russell!

  116. studio26seattle says: Jan 14, 2013 12:59 PM

    fuglyflorio says: Jan 14, 2013 8:48 AM

    He’s the best of this years fad … running QBs. But only time will tell if it’s going to last. ‘New things’ become ‘old things’ quickly in the NFL. Like they say, ‘the other guys get paid too’.

    ____________________________________

    You obviously don’t watch the Seahawks then, cause he is not a “running QB”. He creates time and space between him and the pass rushers, flushing the pocket is his last resort option. This kid is fantastic and will change minds even more next year.

  117. jwreck says: Jan 14, 2013 1:03 PM

    bjs79 says: Jan 14, 2013 8:52 AM

    Andrew Luck turned a 2-14 team into a 11 win playoff team. The Seahawks already had a good defense and a strong running game. The Colts have neither. Luck is the clear choice in my opinion.
    _______
    Though I don’t agree with you about Luck, and I do think Wilson is a tremendous talent, and had an unbelievable game yesterday, your point about team strength is very valid. Wilson is a great driver in a Formula One car, Griffin and Luck are geat drivers in 1997 Honda Civics. The simple fact is that this exact same team took Tarvaris Jackson the same distance in the playoffs last year: and that was against a healthy Drew Brees, not a crippled Robert Griffin. There’s no denying Wilson is a great quarterback, but given the quality of his team, it’s impossible to make an unquestionable case that he is the best of the three.

  118. seahawks19081 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:05 PM

    fuglyflorio says:
    Jan 14, 2013 8:48 AM
    He’s the best of this years fad … running QBs. But only time will tell if it’s going to last. ‘New things’ become ‘old things’ quickly in the NFL. Like they say, ‘the other guys get paid too’.

    ————————————————————

    Wilson has shown all season that he can play from the pocket. The game I watched yesterday, the Seahawks did not run much zone read, and Russell tore that defense apart, from the pocket.

  119. jicjak says: Jan 14, 2013 1:08 PM

    Too bad he can’t play defense too. The Hawks would be rolling into the Superbowl. Hands down rookie of the year.

  120. toonloonboon says: Jan 14, 2013 1:09 PM

    im voting for ryan lindley of Arz.

  121. jwreck says: Jan 14, 2013 1:11 PM

    Oh man, I knew this article would come: the most pointless debate of all time. Look, I hate today’s PC, we all tried hard, everybody gets a trophy mentality, but the simple fact is that all of these guys deserve trophies. Any other year in NFL history, Wilson, Luck, Griffin, or Morris is ROTY. Hell, in a down year like 2010, Tannehill could’ve taken the award.

    I know it’s not going to stop anybody, but arguing over ROTY is pointless. Everyone who has a stake in this knows that their guy is the one who really deserved the award, and nothing that any Washington/Indy/Seattle fan can say will ever convince them otherwise.

    On top of that, it’s just a title. Drew Brees was not a Pro Bowler this year, neither was Eli Manning. Are they bad quarterbacks? Obviously not. Similarly, while Wilson will most likely win the ROTY, and Colts and Redskins fans will gripe about how much more their guy deserved it, at the end of the day we all have terrific franchise quarterbacks and it really doesn’t matter who won what in the first season of their long and successful careers.

  122. weepingjebus says: Jan 14, 2013 1:13 PM

    I’d be more impressed with Luck if the Colts hadn’t openly tanked in order to get him. That was an 8-8 team that worked awful hard to get to 2-14.

  123. polapea says: Jan 14, 2013 1:29 PM

    Think you have to give it to Luck. He had much less talent in place compared to Wilson & RGIII.

    Think this going to go down as the best QB class ever.

  124. travisdinthedistrict170 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:29 PM

    Don’t understand why everyone thinks RG3 had more to work with than Luck. Indy has only missed the playoffs once in the last 10 years. The Redskins went twice . The number one receiver in Washington was a number two in Indy. RG3 changed a culture of losing in one season. Wilson inherited a playoff team, Luck turned the ball over way too much. Wilson, Luck, and RG3 all had great rookie seasons, I believe RG3 did more with less and along with his superior stats earn him ROY.

  125. rtant2013 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:29 PM

    Well apparently Pro football weekly and pro football writers of America disagree with you considering they just named RG3 rookie of the year. But hey, better luck next time, no pun intended: Wilson led the 27th ranked pass offense and came to a team that had more then Luck or Griffin. Not to mention that RG3 and Luck led their teams to the playoffs, while the Seahawks were already a playoff team. Switch Wilson with Luck or Griffin and he wouldn’t have even had a winning season. I like Wilson but to think he brought more to his team the Luck or Griffin is ridiculous. I would vote for Alfred Morris before I would Wilson.

  126. skins23 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:30 PM

    Sorry MF. I know you hate the Skins, but RG3 had a better regular season, and it’s a regular season award.

    Plus, the only reason Wilson was playing in Atlanta was because RG3 tweaked his knee the end of the 1st quarter vs. Seattle. Remember that 1st quarter? When RG3 was still effective and the Redskins were steamrolling Seattle?

    I like Wilson, but him having a great second half in a losing effort isn’t automatically going to win him an entire season award.

  127. lionsdraftguy says: Jan 14, 2013 1:34 PM

    Wait, I thought AJ Jenkins would have been, considering he was a #1 WR according to big mouth Jim Harbaugh.

    BUST!

  128. kozmo50 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:34 PM

    Really??????

    RGIII completed 258 of 393 passes for 3,200 yards, 20 touchdowns and only five interceptions during his rookie campaign, posting a passer rating of 102.4. He also carried the ball 120 times for 815 yards and seven touchdowns. Griffin’s 102.4 passer rating, his 1.3 interception percentage and 814 rushing yards all are NFL records for rookies.

  129. jeffshana says: Jan 14, 2013 1:39 PM

    Didn’t Tarvaris Jackson take this same Seahawks team to the second round of the playoffs two years ago?
    ________________________________

    Um, no. If you knew anything about the Seahawks, you’d know Jackson wasn’t there two years ago…in fact, most of their players weren’t there two years ago.

    But nice try. Thank you for playing.

  130. geniusesq says: Jan 14, 2013 1:44 PM

    This debate proves the short memory of NFL fans. RGIII is the choice. But, the last images of him and Wilson have people now leaning Wilson.

    RGIII played the last month of the season on 1 leg. And, still won the NFC East.

    Wilson is very good, but he’s no RGIII.

  131. shotgunnoblitz says: Jan 14, 2013 1:50 PM

    To all those luck fans… he led the league in interceptions. And yes he brought a 2-14 team to the playoffs, but would the colts have been a 2-14 team with half decent qb play? Put Tarvaris Jackson or John Beck on the colts last season and you will easily get more than 2 wins there.

    Griffin had a better early season, but Wilson absolutely won it by being the best rookie at the end of the year. Griffin played well all year long but Wilson played the best of them all, and tied the rookie passing record. He did more to give his team the wins.

  132. brindlegum says: Jan 14, 2013 1:52 PM

    For everyone saying it’s a regular season award – Mike Florio knows that. He said that is the reason Wilson will probably not win it.

    He is also saying that Wilson is the best rookie this year, and that he would have won if voters had more information about how good Wilson is. He doesn’t go into nitty-gritty details or stats, just his opinion based on the eye-ball test yesterday.

    Not that hard to understand. You aren’t adding anything to the conversation by stating things that everyone knows.

  133. hor2012 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:53 PM

    I think it has to be Andrew Luck. If you look at what he did over the entire season it’s hard to give it to him. But, if it’s Wilson it’s no big deal

  134. bestcoast7 says: Jan 14, 2013 1:57 PM

    lets talk about the Seahawk fans yapping the last 2 months. talking all that good stuff!!!

    the best part is that Carroll was the one to blame. he is still a poor game day coach.

    later weak beaks.

  135. papacrick says: Jan 14, 2013 1:57 PM

    I’m not buying Luck’s greatness. That team he supposedly turned around purposely tanked last year and were never that bad to begin with

  136. skins23 says: Jan 14, 2013 2:03 PM

    justintuckrule says:
    Jan 14, 2013 12:26 PM
    I hope defensive coordinators around the league meet for a summit and figure out a way to stop the read-option already. Once they do, then we’ll see which of these flash in the pan QBs are worth their salt.

    ________________________________

    LOL, such a bitter Giants fan. Sorry that your team is going to be left in the NFC East dust for the next 10 years, to be tortured by the likes of RG3, Wilson and Kaep while your coaching staff turns over, your defense crumbles, and your immobile inconsistent QB struggles to get back to the playoffs until he finally hangs them up.

    BTW, thanks for “giving us the division” this year, as you said in another thread. I’m sure that’s what the Giants were thinking when they cheated the Redskins and Cowboys out of cap space and then sat at home week 17 to watch them play for the division title.

  137. seahawkfan4evr says: Jan 14, 2013 2:07 PM

    Honestly as a huge seahawks fan i dont care if he is the rookie of the year. I think what all the rookies did was amazing. I do think that over time Russel Wilson will be the better quarterback. Due to rg3 being hurt or luck not having as strong a supporting cast in the mean time i think all factors must be taken into account in deciding the rookie of the year.
    Heres to a great year from russel and to many more.
    GO HAWKS!!!

  138. ravensfan19 says: Jan 14, 2013 2:10 PM

    I think Luck or RG3 should get it. They carried both their teams to the Playoffs with Nowhere near as Much help as Wilson had. Granted Wilson was great for the last 2 Month. Luck and RG3 had been Carrying their teams for the Whole year. Luck and RG3 were more valuable to their teams. Wilson had a Great Defense, Great run game and Great offensive Line, he wasn’t the Main reason Seattle won all those games.

  139. n0hopeleft says: Jan 14, 2013 2:27 PM

    Wilson and Luck most definitely deserve it over RG3.

    Regular season award, we all get that.

    The Skins beat the Giants twice last year. As much as Redskins fans would like to think that RG3 is their savior, Rex Grossman didn’t do as bad as the Colts and Hawks QBs.

  140. bigred0021 says: Jan 14, 2013 2:36 PM

    Seattle had a great “Statistical Defense”. They were definitely better than average, but nowhere near the elite defense all Wilson bashers want to annoint them with. An great defense wouldn’t have let Atlanta go 40+ yards in 2 plays with under 30 seconds to go in the biggest game of the year. They wouldn’t have let the hapless Lions drive the length of the field in a six minute drive and score with under a minute to go to lose a lead. They wouldn’t have allowed Miami to come from behind by two long drives at the end of the game. They may be elite in the next year or two, but I would not label them as a great defense. There were too many times they allowed a first down on third and long and could not get off the field.

    Wilson bailed them out more than a few times. Why do you think he had so many game winning drives? The defense tried to give the Chicago Bears game away and did give away the biggest game of the year – yesterday against the Falcons.

  141. thelastpieceofcheese says: Jan 14, 2013 2:42 PM

    I saw Tarkenton play and Russell Wilson is nowhere near his level…yet.

    However not only should he be ROY, he should also be MVP!

  142. jwreck says: Jan 14, 2013 2:42 PM

    jeffshana says: Jan 14, 2013 1:39 PM
    oldschoolomen:

    Didn’t Tarvaris Jackson take this same Seahawks team to the second round of the playoffs two years ago?
    ________________________________

    Um, no. If you knew anything about the Seahawks, you’d know Jackson wasn’t there two years ago…in fact, most of their players weren’t there two years ago.

    But nice try. Thank you for playing.
    ________
    Right, it was one year ago, not two, so therefore that guy is the idiot? There is no bigger sign of inadequacy and weakness than criticizing somebody else for mistakes in trivial details.

  143. jwreck says: Jan 14, 2013 2:48 PM

    n0hopeleft says: Jan 14, 2013 2:27 PM

    Wilson and Luck most definitely deserve it over RG3.

    Regular season award, we all get that.

    The Skins beat the Giants twice last year. As much as Redskins fans would like to think that RG3 is their savior, Rex Grossman didn’t do as bad as the Colts and Hawks QBs.
    _________
    Pretty sure the Seahawks got just as far in the playoffs playing against better teams with Tarvaris Jackson under center. Not saying he or Painter are good, just saying that last year’s Seahawks beat a healthy Drew Brees and co. in the playoffs, not a crippled RGIII and the NFL’s 31st ranked defense. Additionally, the Colts have been to two Super Bowls since the Redskins last won a playoff game, clearly there was something going on with the team last year apart from Curtis Painter.

  144. maatopdogg32 says: Jan 14, 2013 2:50 PM

    I disagree with Wilson as the ROY. Should he be in the mix for ROY? Yes but RGIII or Luck should win it. RW came into a situation where the team already acquired Matt Flynn as its QB and they already had a Solid RB, Good OL, decent receivers, and a good secondary. So, he didn’t really have a lot of pressure to come and turn the Seachickens around. He beat Flynn out and was told to just manage the game while the Lynch would pound out 100 yard rushing games and their D would create turnovers. When looking at Luck and RGIII they came into different situations. Both the Colts and Skins were bad teams that lack talent and won less that 5 games the previous year. The Skins and Colts defenses were suspect all year and both RGIII and Luck carried their prospective teams on their back and into the playoffs despite 1 reliable receiver, suspect OL’s, and lack of a consistent running game (in Lucks case). RW is also 2 years older that both and the other 2 QB’s are 22. RGIII despite the injuries to key players (Fred Davis, Garcon-missed most of the season, Orakpo, Carriker, Merriweather, Tanard Jackson and a secondary that ranked almost dead last) helped the Skins win the NFC title going on a seven game winning streak. Luck got his team into the PO with just Reggie Wayne, set a rookie passing record, had a head coach with cancer, and beat the Texans to secure a wild card berth. I think if you put RW in Luck’s or RG’s situation neither Colts nor Skins make it to the PO. RG can be a reckless guy sometimes but for PFT to base their decision to give RW the ROY over Griffin because Griffin is more of a straighline runner and is more reckless is over the top and media bias at its best. I do agree with you on this point “Wilson likely won’t be named the rookie of the year”

  145. weizdumm says: Jan 14, 2013 3:06 PM

    You can make an arguement for all 3 and whoever wins it will be deserving of it.

    What’s funny is there are 2 running backs, Martin and Morris, who put up pro bowl numbers and aren’t even in the discussion for ROY. Not that they should be, just illustrates what a great class of rookies there were this year.

    To me it’s too close to critize anyone’s opinion, there really isn’t a wrong choice. All 3 are deserving, only 1 will win, and all 3 (if healthy) will make their teams good for the next decade.

  146. qmcg296 says: Jan 14, 2013 3:19 PM

    Everyone here is crazy. Trying to determine who’s the better qb is going to be impossible. they all have a strong case. that is why alfred morris should win the award. think about it, he was drafted in the 6th round out of Florida Atlantic. he was second in the LEAGUE in rushing only behind AP and second in the LEAGUE in touchdowns only behind Arian Foster. To top it off, in his final regular (win or go home) season game against the cowboys(one of the biggest rivalries in football), he rushed for 200 yards and 3 touchdowns. all the nominees have great intangibles and are good people, but you will not find a person in the nfl thats more humble then morris, he doesn’t want the spot light, he just wants to win football games and drive his 1992 mazda. someone please argue against my case!

  147. slugbaitspace says: Jan 14, 2013 3:26 PM

    A lot of people keep arguing that Luck should be RoY over Wilson or RG3 because Luck turned around a 2-14 team into a playoff team, and the other two guys had decent teams to begin with.

    That argument is moot. If you don’t think so, please call Cam Newton and demand that he return last year’s RoY award…the Panthers didn’t even achieve a winning record, much less the playoffs, when Cam joined them.

    That argument is great for deciding Team MVP…not National Football Leage RoY.

    In addition, Luck did NOT turn around a 2-14 team into a playoff team. Let’s recap what happened after Week 17 last season:
    – The Vice Chairman was given the ax.
    – The General Manager was given the ax.
    – The Head Coach, and over half the coaching staff, were given the ax.
    – Almost TWO of every three players were…you guessed it…given the ax.

    That 2-14 team did not exist in 2012. The person who turned the Colts around was…drumroll please…

    Jim Irsay.

  148. sweetnlow44 says: Jan 14, 2013 3:45 PM

    The Colt’s quest to win the Suck for Luck sweepstakes discredits any “he took a 2-14 team to the playoffs” argument.

    All 3 of these guys are deserving and it won’t be a shock to see the award go to any one of them.

    Everybody had the Seahawks in the bottom half or 3rd of their power rankings before the season started. So to say he inherited a much better team is somewhat of a stretch.

    If Carroll and Bevell didn’t restrict their offense so much in the first 5 weeks of the season and let Wilson play from the start, the expected ROY award winner would be a foregone conclusion at this point. But, as it is, all 3 are deserving and their teams’ fans’ should all be thrilled to have such promising franchise qb’s going forward.

  149. bry2j316 says: Jan 14, 2013 3:48 PM

    Didn’t Tarvaris Jackson take this same Seahawks team to the second round of the playoffs two years ago?
    ________________________________

    Um, no. If you knew anything about the Seahawks, you’d know Jackson wasn’t there two years ago…in fact, most of their players weren’t there two years ago.

    But nice try. Thank you for playing.
    ________
    Right, it was one year ago, not two, so therefore that guy is the idiot? There is no bigger sign of inadequacy and weakness than criticizing somebody else for mistakes in trivial details.

    _________________

    For the record it was two years ago, and the quarterback was Matt Hasselbeck.

  150. musicman495 says: Jan 14, 2013 4:37 PM

    beastmode5150 says: Jan 14, 2013 11:04 AM

    I guarantee 100% that skins fans if put on a lie detector right now would rather have Wilson than RGKnee.
    ——————-
    Since neither you or Mike Florio is his doctor, this Skins fan is fine with RG3.

    Last April, I actually wanted the Skins to take Russell Wilson and save the draft picks. But I also know there is more to playing QB for the Redskins than just talent. It is like being a starting pitcher for the Yankees. Griffin was ready to be the “savior of the franchise” from Day One. This is no knock on anyone else, but the job is not for everyone. I am very happy that Russell Wilson is becoming a legend in Seattle. But I am also happy with RG3, who will be playing QB for the Skins for years to come.

  151. ravensfan19 says: Jan 14, 2013 5:00 PM

    As Much as I hate the Seahawks I got to be honest, Russell Wilson has really impressed me, he gotten better week after to week, he is flat out beast, as much as I’ve tried to hate the Seahawks, I just can’t hate on Wilson, hes really improved and has a real bright Future. I really like his Style. At first I thought Luck and RG3 should get it for the way they carried their teams with less help but the More and More I think about I really don’t know because Wilson has made some big plays this Year . Btw Morris deserves to be in the Conversation, he was Second in Rushing yards behind AD and Second in Rushing TD’s to Arian Foster. It’s a really hard pick.

  152. trippymane says: Jan 14, 2013 5:27 PM

    Lmao to the guy that said tarvaris jackson took the same seahawks team to the divisional round 2 years ago lol! First off it was the old broken down matt hasselback with a horrible oline. Second the defense had lawer milloy,marcus trufant, and walter thurmond in the secondary.no sherman,browner,or chancellor. Third our lbs were leroy hill, lofa tatupu and aaron curry… Smh our recievers? Brandon stokely, mike williams,obamanu, and a rookie golden tate. So no jackson didnt take the same team to the divisional playoffs idiot.

  153. gizzmonic says: Jan 14, 2013 6:41 PM

    beginers luck

  154. jwreck says: Jan 14, 2013 6:53 PM

    trippymane says: Jan 14, 2013 5:27 PM

    Lmao to the guy that said tarvaris jackson took the same seahawks team to the divisional round 2 years ago lol! First off it was the old broken down matt hasselback with a horrible oline. Second the defense had lawer milloy,marcus trufant, and walter thurmond in the secondary.no sherman,browner,or chancellor. Third our lbs were leroy hill, lofa tatupu and aaron curry… Smh our recievers? Brandon stokely, mike williams,obamanu, and a rookie golden tate. So no jackson didnt take the same team to the divisional playoffs idiot.
    _______
    Didn’t Tarvaris Jackson take this same Seahawks team to the second round of the playoffs two years ago?
    ________________________________

    Um, no. If you knew anything about the Seahawks, you’d know Jackson wasn’t there two years ago…in fact, most of their players weren’t there two years ago.

    But nice try. Thank you for playing.
    ________
    Right, it was one year ago, not two, so therefore that guy is the idiot? There is no bigger sign of inadequacy and weakness than criticizing somebody else for mistakes in trivial details.

    _________________

    For the record it was two years ago, and the quarterback was Matt Hasselbeck.
    ________
    My fault. Also sorry to jeffshana for calling you out like that. I want to use the classic NFL standby “My twitter got hacked”, but the truth is, it’s just been a long day and I got 2011 and 2010 mixed up. Apologies all around.

  155. hatesycophants says: Jan 14, 2013 7:59 PM

    You don’t get credit for “turning around” a team that intentionally lost 14 games to secure the first pick. No way.

  156. orivar says: Jan 14, 2013 8:42 PM

    “Robert Griffin III is the greater overall talent.”

    I don’t know about that. Wilson like RG3 is fast. Wilson like RG3 is accurate. Wilson like RG3 can escape the pocket. However it’s not known how good RG3 is in tight pressure situations, especially playoffs as the injury due to their bad turf did hamper him, even though he did make quite a few mistakes to the end of the playoff game. Wilson on the other hand has shown in both playoff games, he lives for the pressure.

    His face is completely stoic. No smile, no frown, no nothing. It’s like he’s simply going to work.

  157. skinsdiehard says: Jan 14, 2013 8:53 PM

    RG3 is ROY. Period.

  158. ahmiller21 says: Jan 14, 2013 8:56 PM

    Tell me again who was going to win ROY???? Hail!!!

  159. nuwildcats says: Jan 14, 2013 11:24 PM

    We can all argue lots of points FOR RG3, Wilson and Luck. What about arguments AGAINST? One could argue against Luck due to his inferior stats compared to RG3 and Wilson. One could argue against RG3 due to his inability to stay healthy EVERY week. What argument could one use against Wilson? I don’t see any credible arguments here.

  160. rukkus1 says: Jan 15, 2013 2:10 AM

    Enough of the “Luck took over a 2-14 team and led them to the playoffs…”

    Lets not forget about all the circumstances behind Indy’s suck for luck campaign. They had curtis painter filling in for P Manning. Curtis Painter!!!! Of course they went 2-14. Plus they knew they needed the “next manning.”

    Andrew luck in 2012, had most of the same pieces intact as manning had in 2010.

    Luck is not R Dub or rg3 caliber. Maybe next year… Russell and Robert were studs this year. Luck was pretty good. Dont get it backwards.

  161. K says: Jan 15, 2013 3:44 AM

    I am a Seahawks fan, and I would harbor no resentment if RG3 got the award. He’s a special young player, like Wilson he is mature beyond his years.

    I would vote for Wilson, but as many have said, it’s pointless to elevate one excellent player over another based on the slimmest of differences.

    So instead, I’ll just say this. My quarterback put the team on his back to win a game in Chicago, a game nobody gave us a chance to win. He won the game with a heroic 97 yard drive that ended with less than 20 seconds left. Then his defense blew it the only way they could have, by allowing a 56 yard pass with almost no time left.

    Most QBs would have bitched or at least been pissed off, but Wilson just strapped up and got to work. He put his team on his back AGAIN and won the game on the first possession of overtime.

    Fast forward to the playoffs. Wilson all but completes the biggest 4th quarter comeback in playoff history. With the biggest statistical rookie performance ever in the playoffs, breaking a record set in 1937. Then his defense, again, finds a way to ruin it. And that’s the season. A real shot at being the first rookie to win it all, flushed away like it was nothing.

    A lot of QBs would not handle that situation well. But as Wilson ran off the field, he felt not anger but excitement. Excitement for his next game, just 8 months away.

    When reporters looked for Wilson during the Locker cleanout, he was strangely absent. They would later learn that he was already busy watching game film. Seriously.

    Keep an eye on this Wilson kid. He’s going to be in some rarefied air before it’s all over. And that’s all that really matters to us Seahawks fans.

  162. bigblackanvil says: Jan 15, 2013 9:26 AM

    I understand why is everyone is drooling over Kapernick. He’s fast and athletic and a stud QB but when RG3 and Wilson do the same they are labeled “running ” QBs? I like Kaep but I think it sucks he is praised for the same style of play as RW and RG3.

  163. gohawkz says: Jan 15, 2013 9:35 AM

    I read all these comments and I see a lot of valid arguments for each of the four players that should be considered. In reality, probably more people who shouldn’t be arguing their point because it’s obvious they spend more time eating hot dogs then watching the game & just don’t know enough about football to judge. First, what is the criteria for winning ROY? A winning record? Stats? Poise under pressure? Pure ability & talent? How hot their giflfriend/wife is? Perserverance? An outrageously awesome face guard? Making the players around them better? Progression? Maybe a combination of all?
    When you look at Luck, he started the season brilliant. But as the season progressed his completion percentage dropped signifactly. Now whether that was due to how much time he spent on his butt from the many many hits he was taking, who knows. But it happened. Yes, he turned that team around and probably did less with more, but he didn’t really make continual progress every week. He threw a lot of interceptions, but he also had thrown the most passes and was asked the most of himself by the coaches from the outset. How about that RG3!?! The guy is a stud. He is gonna sell a ton of shoes & Gatorade. He’s flashy. I’m surprised he doesn’t have a diamond studded gold grille when we see that gorgeous smile. Accurate as Robin Hood with his passes; he’s always on target. Oh, and the speed of the kid is off the charts. Some of the best runs by a QB ever and he makes it look easy. Only 5 INTs all season. Wow! But, his health is an issue. I sure hope he doesn’t end up like Vick, always injured because he plays just a little too loose and not smart. He needs to remember he is the franchise QB and not his other outstanding rookie teammate he is usually standing behind him. And how about that guy, Alfred Morris was a bear. He mauled opposing defenses and his power running ability was not only outstanding for a rookie, but it opened the door for some of those great RG3 runs downfield. That duo is gonna be real fun to watch for years. Now up in Seattle, they got one hell of a surprise. It’s like when you were a kid and you got a happy meal and got exactly the toy you were looking for. How stoked is Pete Carroll!?! Russell Wilson has poise. I mean real veteran poise. If you didn’t know better watching tape of him, you would think he’s been in the league for a decade. He started the season slow, but he was efficient. Then, half way thru, Pete unleashed DangeRuss. Things got crazy. Wilson led the Hawks on an unprecedented points bonanza the league hasn’t seen since way before the merger. His reads on the option were smooth as silk. Wilson has the best play action I’ve seen since Farve. Did I mention the poise in the pocket yet? If RG3 is Robin Hood, then RDub is John Wayne with football. Oh and he kinda tied Peyton Manning’s rookie TD record.
    So, who should get ROY? I’m going with Russell Wilson. Not because of any of those SHINFO football facts I just spit, but because Russell’s wife, Ashton, is smoking hot…. Even that whole exorcism face when he got drafted was off the charts. LoL. Now that was magical. Just like this past season has been for all these rookies. Go Hawks!!!!

  164. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Jan 15, 2013 9:56 AM

    Compare Wilson to Kaep as they are team players who don’t put themselves before the group by running into big hits and playing injured at 80% when 100% isn’t even good enough.

    Compare RG3 to Vick. Both only care about themselves. They run too early, read progressions too slow, fumble like crazy, play injured bc they are afraid of losing their job to the backup. Look at Vick’s stats for his second eerily similar to RG3.

    Kaep and Wilson = lesser versions of Steve Young and Mcnabb.

    RG3 = Well spoken Vick with a weaker arm.

    Mark my words RG3 is a cancer, playing injured in the playoff tells the rest of his team his vanity is his primary concern not winning at all costs which sometimes means sitting the bench.

  165. bigblackanvil says: Jan 15, 2013 10:38 AM

    Kaep and Wilson = lesser versions of Steve Young and Mcnabb.

    RG3 = Well spoken Vick with a weaker arm.
    ______________________________________
    These are the dumb comments that introduce race into the picture. Notice Kaep is naturally equated to HOF Steve Young and the Wilson/Griffin are equated to Mcnabb and Vick? Is this PFT or KKK central?

  166. bigblackanvil says: Jan 15, 2013 10:43 AM

    RG3!?! The guy is a stud. He is gonna sell a ton of shoes & Gatorade. He’s flashy. I’m surprised he doesn’t have a diamond studded gold grille when we see that gorgeous smile.
    ______________________________________
    WTF would RG3 want a ” diamond studded” grill?!?!

  167. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Jan 15, 2013 12:34 PM

    bigblackanvil says: Jan 15, 2013 10:38 AM

    Kaep and Wilson = lesser versions of Steve Young and Mcnabb.

    RG3 = Well spoken Vick with a weaker arm.
    ______________________________________
    These are the dumb comments that introduce race into the picture. Notice Kaep is naturally equated to HOF Steve Young and the Wilson/Griffin are equated to Mcnabb and Vick? Is this PFT or KKK central?

    __________________________________
    Race ? Who mentioned race? Wtf are you talking about? I was comparing Athletic QBs! Comparing Wilson to Steve Young, one is black one is white how is that racist? Are you serious? Take your race bull some where else, noone cares. I was making a legit statement based on playing style. For you to see racism in that is disgusting, you’re embarrassing.

  168. seahawksteven777 says: Jan 15, 2013 2:53 PM

    Considering the fact that Luck and Griffin were taken with the first two picks, isn’t it kinda to be expected that those two would have pretty good years?

    The thing with Wilson is that nobody even expected him to even win the starting job, let alone play at a high level in the NFL. He was taken in the 3rd round as opposed to the 1st and put up comparable numbers to Luck and Griffin.

    Another point worth mentioning is that Wilson didn’t even really come on until the second half of the season which should make it all the more impressive for Wilson.

  169. stevenray72 says: Jan 15, 2013 3:05 PM

    There needs to be an update story. It was announced last night that RG3 won.

  170. scraperking says: Jan 15, 2013 11:43 PM

    Here’s why I don’t buy the argument that “Luck took a 2-14 team to 11-5″ as a reason that Luck deserves the Rookie of the year.

    Think about it, with Payton Manning, the Colts were always 13-3, 12-4 or at worst 11-5, they were always a very good team. When he got hurt and was out last year, they fell to 2-14. So without a good quarterback, they fell to 2-14, but with Manning, a great qb, they were always great. So this year, you add Luck into the mix, who is definitely gonna be a very good to great qb, they were back to 11-5. So Luck didn’t take a 2-14 team to 11-5, he took a team that was ALWAYS at least 11-5 before Manning got hurt back to where they were. So obviously this team was always talented. If u put the Colts starter from last year, Painter I believe, as the starting qb on any of the top teams in the league, they’d be much worse, and it doesn’t mean those teams aren’t talented, they just had a whack qb.

    With that being said, and the fact that Luck led the entire NFL in turnovers this year, either RGIII or RW3 should be ROY. I’m a Seahawks fan so I’m biased and think Wilson should get it, but RG only had 4 int’s to go with 20-sumthin td’s and minus injury could’ve possibly ran for 1,000 yards too, so it’s definitely a tough one, but they should be 1-2 in the voting, no doubt in my mind.

  171. defscottyb says: Jan 16, 2013 12:21 AM

    I’m a Skins fan and I think Alfred Morris should be ROY or in the top 2 behind RG3. RG3’s style opened up big holes for Morris.

  172. qmcg296 says: Jan 16, 2013 12:35 AM

    Everyone here is crazy. Trying to determine who’s the better qb is going to be impossible. they all have a strong case. that is why alfred morris should win the award. think about it, he was drafted in the 6th round out of Florida Atlantic. he was second in the LEAGUE in rushing only behind AP and second in the LEAGUE in touchdowns only behind Arian Foster. To top it off, in his final regular (win or go home) season game against the cowboys(one of the biggest rivalries in football), he rushed for 200 yards and 3 touchdowns. all the nominees have great intangibles and are good people, but you will not find a person in the nfl thats more humble then morris, he doesn’t want the spot light, he just wants to win football games and drive his 1992 mazda. someone please argue against my case!

  173. bigalhebdman says: Jan 16, 2013 9:57 AM

    Too bad only one of them can win. There are actually 4 rookies (on offense) that had OUTSTANDING seasons, RGIII, Wilson, Luck and A Morris and it’s a shame only one of them will be picked. A case could be made for all.

  174. flsnupe says: Jan 16, 2013 12:51 PM

    The variation on this board proves to me that Russell Wilson did not prove anything. Fact is, this will be the toughest vote for ROY that I can remember, and Florios cheerleading will not change the publics mind. It will be a divided vote, and whoever wins it will deserve to win it.

  175. vailskier99 says: Jan 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    From listening to Wilson, SB is what he’s after so I won’t be surprised that he will take the Hawks to the SB and win it next year. The Hawks are very lucky to draft him. What a remarkable young man!!!

  176. bigblackanvil says: Jan 17, 2013 5:15 AM

    RG3 hurt his knee because of a freak hit from the fat draws in Baltimore. Ravens couldn’t stop him so he was targeted. All year he was targeted. That’s the only way they could stop him. I like Wilson but he kinda came on late. RG3 has played at a high level since game one. My opinion is R3 is 2012 NFL R.O.Y… HTTR

  177. humpofdc says: Jan 17, 2013 6:14 PM

    I always liked Wilson but RG3 is nothing but the truth!!!

  178. patssteelersorgiants says: Jan 17, 2013 7:35 PM

    Battle of the Option Backs. Call me when one of them wins a SB.

  179. bigblackanvil says: Jan 18, 2013 9:24 AM

    giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says:
    Jan 15, 2013 12:34 PM

    bigblackanvil says: Jan 15, 2013 10:38 AM

    Kaep and Wilson = lesser versions of Steve Young and Mcnabb.

    RG3 = Well spoken Vick with a weaker arm.
    ______________________________________
    These are the dumb comments that introduce race into the picture. Notice Kaep is naturally equated to HOF Steve Young and the Wilson/Griffin are equated to Mcnabb and Vick? Is this PFT or KKK central?

    __________________________________
    Race ? Who mentioned race? Wtf are you talking about? I was comparing Athletic QBs! Comparing Wilson to Steve Young, one is black one is white how is that racist? Are you serious? Take your race bull some where else, noone cares. I was making a legit statement based on playing style. For you to see racism in that is disgusting, you’re embarrassing.
    ____________________________________
    Dude read your statement. You wrote it. You didn’t compare Wilson to Steve Young . You said he was like McNabb. Maybe you meant that but I am not a mind reader. Always proof read. Here’s to me giving you the benefit of the doubt. HTTR

  180. jrogel1 says: Jan 19, 2013 2:39 AM

    Just give it to RGIII. He’s gotta win something before his football career ends.

  181. bert1913 says: Jan 19, 2013 2:25 PM

    who is ROY? and why is the award named after him?

  182. mrseaballs says: Jan 21, 2013 2:03 AM

    Thing is Wilson will have a long football life with Superbowl wins , pro bowls and a long coaching life after. RG will have 5 or 6 injury riddled seasons and then have a seat with Randell Cuningham and Michael Vick.

  183. pongonfl says: Jan 21, 2013 11:21 AM

    In the end, Wilson played in the best division in football. Partially thanks to him.
    For all the reasons that the author said, especially the calm and the leadership and the accuracy, I think Wilson is the rookie of the year.

  184. bartlettruss says: Jan 21, 2013 1:47 PM

    As has been pointed out the Rookie of the Year award is a regular season award, so the idea that the last two weeks should change people’s minds is invalid.

    We had a great crop of rookies this year, but I think the Seahawks improvement was across the board and not just at the QB position. Luck and Griffin gave the better individual contributions. Naturally these awards are often popularity contests and there’s no doubt that Griffin is the most popular and personally dynamic of the crop, so I suspect he’ll win.

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