Comments on: With McCoy out of mix, Cardinals’ job becomes murky http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Fri, 24 May 2013 01:00:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: redbirdsrising http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2267169 Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:25:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2267169 “The Bidwells have ALWAYS been cheap….and Haley knows it.”

Haley would recall that the Bidwills (correct spelling) paid him over 1 million a season as an OC to keep him from interviewing as a HC candidate with the Dolphins in 2008. At the same time they were paying Russ Grimm over 1 million just to be an average OL coach.

]]> By: dman54321 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2265077 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 23:16:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2265077 Public perception is “Cardinals are cheap” or “same old Cardinals” because of write ups like this. The Cardinals where going to go hard at Mike McCoy and wanted to interview him for the second time. But San Diego didn’t let him leave, they did what they where suppose to do and they got their guy. This doesn’t mean Cardinals are done searching or are going to settle for a poor candidate, it just means they didn’t get their guy and they have to move on. Tell me this if the Cardinals where so “cheap” why did the eat Ken W. 5 million dollar salary(with a year left in his contract)? Why did they re-sign core players like Calais Campbell, Daryl Washington, and Larry Fitzgerald to long term contracts recently. Why did they trade for Kevin Kolb and give him a large contract(in attempt to fix QB issues)? Don’t let public perception fool you; as it has to all of us
before. Make your own opinion and give others an opportunity to prove you wrong.

]]> By: randolph32 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264543 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:40:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264543 I’ve been following the Cardinals since they were in Chicago, and one thing you can count on with the Bidwell’s, is they will do whatever to keep the costs down….it made me a Bears fan many a year ago!!

]]> By: chillmodedlb http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264470 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 20:11:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264470 It would make me so angry to have been a Cardinals or Bengals fan where it is more about the bottom line than truly trying to win a championship. If I was an owner and I believed there was one guy who could really revolutionize the culture of my franchise and bring me a championship, I would not hesitate to spend the money it takes to do it. Clearly the Jones/Snyder/Ross model of spending whatever hasn’t panned out for those guys in terms of championships, but I would definitely rather the owner of my team placing championships as a higher priority than money. If it were me I would rather have those championship rings on my deathbed than my checkbook.

]]> By: somekat http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264247 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:41:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264247 Down to 4 teams left, and the only coach I may have been intersted in coming to Philly was McCoy (I cooled on him after finding a bit more about him, and every descrption beginning with “calm” and “laid back”, had enough of that).

Don’t see a rush of people wanting the Jax job (same issues that are apparently in Zona money wise). if the Cards are putting a cap on, the only team that may pick someone off from the Eagles is chicago. Since I want Bradley, and I haven’t heard anything about him going to chicago, this is good news for me.

I don’t think Chicago will even consider Bradley though, I think they want an offensive coach (for obvious reasons)

]]> By: TxGrown http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264181 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:12:04 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264181 Promote Horton! I mean with this franchise what could possibly go wrong?

]]> By: pjrhc http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264160 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:06:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264160 They should hire Whisenhunt – he’s a great guy who has gotten a team to the Super Bowl. Then they should get him a QB.

]]> By: azcards http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264114 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:47:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264114 All I can say is you get what you pay for. Same old cardinals. Smh.

]]> By: thetooloftools http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264074 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:28:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264074 Yea, because now is the time to get cheap with a head coach for a team nobody wants anything to do with.

]]> By: 4ever85 (aka Butch DeadLift) http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264063 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:24:33 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264063 Ever heard the saying, “You get what you pay for”?

With so many hungry coaches out there, you’d think ONE would want to coach a professional football team.

I know the Cards suck, but c’mon!

]]> By: clssylssy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264053 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:21:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264053 The NFL owes it to the fans to have some sort of “Quality Control” regulating ownership. The Cardinals are a great bunch of talented guys who are the hobby of a incompetent owner. Unless the franchise is sold or can become a publicly traded commodity like the Green Bay Packers (which is not possible under NFL guidelines) there is no accountability and little hope for this team. Young players have signed away their lives only to have the rug pulled out from under them leaving them no better off than endentured servants. Fans have spent money for season tickets in an economy that has forced sacrifices to support the life style of a greedy owner. In most businesses there is some sort of system of checks and balances that protect consumers and the NFL should be ultimately responsible for the quality of the franchises they oversee. What a mess!

]]> By: firstand4ever http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264051 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:20:55 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264051 Arizona shouldn’t have fired Ken Whisenhunt in the first place.

It may be a long wait now but I would target Josh McDaniels.

]]> By: daknight93 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264021 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:01:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264021 Fitz is a classy guy on and off the field, but he made a poor decision to be loyal to this franchise…he has been begging for a quarterback since Kurt Warner retired, just sad that this franchise can’t get it together..Fitz isn’t getting younger and his window will be closing fast as an elite receiver as he turns 30 in august.

]]> By: northshorejag http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2264001 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:50:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2264001 These are just more reasons Kurt Warner is a hall of famer.

]]> By: nflofficeadmin http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263999 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:50:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263999 Hire McDaniels. Bring in Tebow.

]]> By: panthernation45 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263932 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:27:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263932 why not give it to Ray Horton? I feel bad for Larry Fitz, this franchise is a mess.

]]> By: knucklesgrizfan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263903 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:13:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263903 hate to lose McCoy, but maybe we can get am OC with a little more of a killer instinct.

]]> By: beardinals http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263902 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:13:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263902 No one wants to walk into a situation with no capable QB on hand.

This seems like a classic catch 22.

Michael Bidwill has been looser with the purse strings since taking over, so we’ll see if that stands true for this hiring.

Keim being underpaid seems unlikely, as he had other opportunities for other teams.

]]> By: Kreedos http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263901 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:13:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263901 Same old Cards

]]> By: tannethrill http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263896 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:11:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263896 When do they trade away Fitz?

]]> By: djstat http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263889 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:06:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263889 Bidwells suck. NO QB makes it an unattractive job.

]]> By: eljefe322 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263888 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:06:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263888 They want the cheap options all around? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

]]> By: biggredbird76 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263841 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:52:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263841 Red Birds need to take this as a sign that Horton is the man. “F” Jay Gruden, lets go Horton and get it in. Horton will bring an edge to the team that the past 4 coaches have not. The one thing I do not want to see is them pay Todd Haley to come in here and screw us over, Red Birds all day lets get it in. Jay Gruden is a chump anyway, he is soft like Whiz.

]]> By: ravenmuscle http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263833 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:50:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263833 The Bidwells have ALWAYS been cheap….and Haley knows it.

The best way to make sure you don’t end up playing for the cheap Bidwells is to make them think you want a lot of money.

]]> By: riverhorsey http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263829 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:49:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263829 AZ would be a tough fix for anyone but if Bidwill really wants a fix he better pay the man Haley.

]]> By: thebigcaptain2011 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263812 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:42:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263812 Wow! $750,000 is great money in the ‘real world’ but for a GM thats really low in 2013. Are the Cardinals really that cheap? Billion dollar stadium with 2 cent management. I feel for Cardinal fans. I really hope your new GM is able to work miracles.

]]> By: musicman495 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263805 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:39:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263805 Larry Fitzgerald must be ready to drive into a cactus.

]]> By: 2difshoe http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263802 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:39:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263802 Where’s the love for Lovie ?

]]> By: kpow55 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263797 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:37:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263797 Cardinals losing out on quality FA/Front Office?

That’s less than rare.

Hate if you want but name one Quality FA that came from somewhere else.

Some stay for the $$$ but NO ONE wants to go go there after playing elsewhere.

]]> By: delusionalcardsfan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/15/with-mccoy-out-of-mix-cardinals-job-becomes-murky/#comment-2263795 Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:36:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1645255#comment-2263795 They should have let Whiz finish the contract with some healthy players. We suck again!!!

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