Comments on: Dungy suspects Wilson, Kaepernick helped change Chip Kelly’s mind

By: rodericksilva

rodericksilva — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:14:26 +0000

Here is a crazy thought. What if the future QB is expected to last as long as a RB?

The Redskins would have been smart to draft a backup QB. Oh wait, they did.

By: rodericksilva

rodericksilva — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:09:56 +0000

If you get a Manning or Luck you build your offense around them. If you get Wilson or Cam you build your offense around him. It’s not rocket science.

Chip Kelly will build an offense around Foles’ strengths unless he finds someone else.

By: stevedurbano

stevedurbano — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:28:10 +0000

hor2012- Do you really think Wilson has a long career ahead of him? He had a nice 10 game season, but do you really think he was responsible for that and not Lynch? Come on, the Seahawks had a really good defense and what looked like a one- dimensional offense- he was able to exploit that. Great for him, he was able to do it. But long term? No way. If defenses aren’t worried about Lynch then Wilson spends more time time on his ass than I do (and I spend a lot of time on my ass).

By: huskersrock1

huskersrock1 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 20:16:17 +0000

I suspect the offer going from 3 million per year to 5 million per year had more to do with his decision then one player or one game.

By: hank10

hank10 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:42:42 +0000

FWIW at his introductory press conference, Kelly was asked about implementing the Oregon offense in the NFL and he said he is open to developing an offense to fit the personnel he has, and, it doesn’t matter how points are scored. Of course time will tell, but it sounded encouraging that he is not a one-trick pony.

By: themackstrong

themackstrong — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:32:48 +0000

I don’t think Wilson, Kaep, RG3 and Cam are running QB’s as much as they are QB with the ability to beat you with arm or legs. Read option can be stopped but each of those guys can stand in the pocket and make any pass accurately with one less pass rusher or one less in coverage. The fact that each can run makes defenses to pick their poison. This is not the same as the Wild Cat.

By: judsonjr

judsonjr — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:32:13 +0000

Can an Eagles fan comment on this?

It seemed like the Eagles ran the shotgun read-option in 2010 with some success. Now what I don’t know, is if Vick was actually doing the “read” part, or how often it was run.

It also seemed like teams figured it out at the end of the year by maintaining discipline. I mean the Joe Webb led Vikings beat them at the end of 2010.

Vick did not have the pure QB skills that the younger guys do, but he was very good that year…but teams figured it out.

By: 4evrnyt

4evrnyt — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:31:20 +0000

Funny how impending sanctions to your school can cause a complete reversal in decisions.

By: norcalseahawkfan

norcalseahawkfan — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 19:00:10 +0000

Read Option, NFL Defences will find a way to stop it or at least slow it down. It is fun to watch but it may go the way of the Chuck and Duck (Run And Shoot) I could be wrong (most of the time I am)

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:45:43 +0000

stevedurbano says:

I assuming you watched the Seahawks this year. So, you know that Wilson doesn’t need to take a back seat to Luck or any other rookie out there throwing the football

By: aaroncurryisbust

aaroncurryisbust — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:28:15 +0000

That’s an insult to Wilson, who was running a true pro offense.

By: janvanflac

janvanflac — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:10:35 +0000

apparently he likes Foles. I’m sure he’s aware of who is on the roster.

By: oldfart49

oldfart49 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:01:46 +0000

In the past these running QB’s weren’t great passers. With the training they get, that’s no longer true. As Simms said, CK would be an elite prospect with his arm along. Ditto Wilson, RGIII, etc.

By: brassknuckles47

brassknuckles47 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:57:53 +0000

Cut the shine-ola. Chip took the Eagles job because he got wind of the sanctions that were coming down on oregon. Betcha there are lotz of telephone calls to Pete Carroll for advise.

By: dwarftosser

dwarftosser — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:56:41 +0000

I’m done listening to Tony Dungy. It seems like he cares too much about the interest and feelings of his friends and really doesn’t provide any unbiased analysis. He’s a great guy, but the networks need to stop paying him for being a mouthpiece for “his guys”… or at least label it what it is.

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:50:29 +0000

I think Russel Wilson will be fine. He seems to move around more to by time then actually taking off and running. AL with the colts and RT will also be ok. I have some concerns with KP and RG3

By: lesterclan

lesterclan — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:47:30 +0000

You know, I used to love Tony Dungy. But since he has gone into broadcasting he has turned into just another hypocrite. For example, I remember him clearly tearing apart the “spread option” and how it would never, ever work at the NFL level. Now, he loves it? He has no problem ripping Tebow in the read option…hey, Tony, Tebow damn near invented that style. He certainly was most influencial in bringing it to the forefront.

Give credit where credit is due…

By: effjohntaylornorelation

effjohntaylornorelation — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:45:35 +0000

There’s that and then there’s the NCAA getting ready to lower the boom.

By: topwonk

topwonk — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:42:35 +0000

Dungy may be on to something here. The thing is, the rules of the NFL and the skills of the QBs coming out of college are now conspiring to make running the spread, or read option, offense feasible in the NFL. Legislating against hard hits and strengthening the rules that defenses must abide by is making it less dangerous for QBs to run this offense. Also, analyzing so called “running quarterbacks” from the past shows that virtually all of them had weaknesses in their ability to either throw the football, read defenses, or perform as pocket passers when needed (you can’t run all the time). The current crop of young QBs (Russell, RG3, Kaepernick) is showing that they are coming out of college now with a full range of skills and intelligence needed to make it work at the NFL level. This may be precisely why Chip Kelly backtracked and decided to come to the NFL, when he was not comfortable before. The offense is here to stay and will evolve further in the NFL with proponents, and the actual authors, of the offense coming into the NFL.

By: bobleblah

bobleblah — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:29:21 +0000

He realized that if he turned down the NFL now he might not get another chance.

By: baymac408

baymac408 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:29:14 +0000

Hawk you wouldn’t last in the bay either so don’t speak on it.. It’s nothing Nice here…

By: 1oldpro

1oldpro — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:25:54 +0000

I like that Wilson and CK7 throw well and run well, too. But I LOVE the fact that those two seem to know when NOT to run and dont put themselves in as dangerous a situation as RG3 amd Mike Vick do.

By: youknowwhatsgoodforshoulderpain

youknowwhatsgoodforshoulderpain — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:23:06 +0000

Yeah, sure. His decision had NOTHING to do with upcoming NCAA sanctions for the Ducks. This play was stolen from the Pete Carroll playbook.

By: dmoney8

dmoney8 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:21:02 +0000

am i the only person that doesnt care what tony dungy thinks?

By: salventuri

salventuri — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:20:46 +0000

Note To Chip Kelly…..

Wilson or Kaepernick doesn’t play for the Eagles.

End of note.

By: thesportsguru7

thesportsguru7 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:17:05 +0000

I’m hoping the Eagles suck this year, so they can draft Bridgewater next year, who will be a perfect fit for Chip Kelly and this offense.

*Crosses Fingers for Bridgewater*

By: onbucky96

onbucky96 — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:05:06 +0000

Eh, what? Oh, Dungy is evenutally compare Joe Webb to Wilson/Kapernick. Whatever Tony, stop being a network shill for your buddy coaches.

By: adantsa

adantsa — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:01:52 +0000

The problem with previous running QB’s were they were seriously handicapped when it came to throwing the football. Wilson, RG3, Luck and CK7 appear to be able to throw quite well. Big difference.

By: kisstherings

kisstherings — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:57:56 +0000

What does Dungy suspect about global warming and the price of peanut butter…

I could care about as much about that.

By: stevedurbano

stevedurbano — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:56:14 +0000

I suppose you could say his offense might work as long as he starts the season with 2 or 3 QB’s with better than average running ability and at least marginal passing skills (which pretty much sums up Kaepernick and Wilson) because very few of these guys are ever going to play a full season. The injury rates are just too high. And basically this is a gimmick offense that will be ineffective next year as defenses get coached up to stop it. Anybody remember “Wildcat”? That being said, I’m surprised that no team uses a “change of pace” QB in certain situations (3rd and 20, etc). These guys would be perfect for that.