Comments on: Report: Russell Wilson rep asked for new contract

By: orivar

orivar — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 01:33:28 +0000

There’s a way around it, trust me. Wilson will be getting paid soon.

By: camron723

camron723 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:58:24 +0000

If your going to dog Ryan leaf which is deserving lets not forget get the jamarcus russells of the nfl

By: camron723

camron723 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:55:17 +0000

Weird how this is a race thing, unlike, Mike vick making 17.5 million and nike foles with a rookie contract taking his job

By: Canned Heat

Canned Heat — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:23:52 +0000

Can’t Subway sign him on for a good deal with RG3…?

I mean really, that defensive lineman for the Lions whose name was mentioned so little this year I forgot it is making some big bucks pushing subs for those guys.

It rhymes with Sue….hmmmm.

By: guy0nthec0uch

guy0nthec0uch — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:05:08 +0000

@kenowest If that’s how it works the Falcons want a refund on Ray Edwards. He was replaced by a white guy named Biermann that made way less money.

For that matter, 90% of the players in the NFL are black. Maybe we need a Welker rule so we can see more white players have an opportunity to start….

By: jrd78

jrd78 — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:09:37 +0000

Somebody out there can tell me if this scenario is plausible:

Paul Allen calls his good buddy the CEO of Starbucks and asks CEO to hire Wilson for some kind of commercial. CEO hires Wilson for, say, $5 million.

Paul Allen sees to it that some $$ comes to Starbucks somehow (investment $$, whatever).

Is something like this legal?

By: skytzo425

skytzo425 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 23:54:50 +0000

Wow, after 1 season this guys reps are all ready money hungry. Russell needs new reps badly and if I were the Seahawks I’d insist he find new representation. Even if it was him who asked for the raise his reps should have explained to him that it’s impossible and to just wait the 3 years patiently, pay his dues and Seattle will gladly give him what he deserves. The fact that’s not what happened says his reps don’t know the rules of the CBA and contract the rules of the contracts, and that is absolutely unacceptable. It makes Russell look greedy and could’ve possibly caused a rift between him and the front office. Anyone representing a profesional athlete needs to know every single guideline in the CBA that pertains to his duties and these morons should be fired immediately.

By: ticklemepickle77

ticklemepickle77 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:33:27 +0000

If any player deserves more, its Russell. But the new rookie structure was necessary to prevent the Ryan Leafs, and such from killing franchises for years. Could they give him a big extension without affecting the 1st 3 years?

By: buckybadger

buckybadger — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:29:24 +0000

jwreck, not exactly true about the contracts. There are partnerships and board deals all the time that make it impossible to get rid of someone. Board members sign deals very close to what GMs and coaches have all the time. Their contracts are also binding both ways. The only way they get fired is if they do something that would be called a breach of contract so your sleeping on your job might qualify as a breach in contract but these guys have deals far better than what NFL players have. These players can get cut even if they are performing and the team just didn’t manage their salary cap.

By: jwreck

jwreck — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 21:04:46 +0000

buckybadger says: Jan 20, 2013 3:35 PM
This actually isn’t uncommon if a kid is a top student coming out of Harvard or Yale. You think if a law firm hires a Rhodes Scholar they didn’t have to bid for him? This scholar also won’t be forced into something in a field that has a monopoly on what he does. He will have more options to him.

I understand the wage scale but it is against all things we hold as Americans. People scream socialism all the time but will force it on someone else with no issues. Can’t call yourself a capitalist if you agree with the wage scale. And just for the record I vote largely Democratic but nothing imposed by their party is more socialist than the Rookie Wage scale.
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Agree completely, but employees of normal companies don’t sign contracts with guaranteed pay and term of employment. If a company hires the Rhodes Scholar equivalent of JaMarcus Russell (not likely, but possible) they can sever ties with him the first time he falls asleep in a company meeting; unlike the Raiders, who had just signed him to the biggest rookie deal of all time.

Wage scales don’t make sense for any part of the free market driven by capitalism, but the NFL is not. Between the draft, guaranteed contracts, and a salary cap, the free market has little to no effect on the internal dealings of professional football.

By: buckybadger

buckybadger — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:35:38 +0000

FinFan68 “Name one industry where the new kid that goes to work for somebody gets the most pay.”

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This actually isn’t uncommon if a kid is a top student coming out of Harvard or Yale. You think if a law firm hires a Rhodes Scholar they didn’t have to bid for him? This scholar also won’t be forced into something in a field that has a monopoly on what he does. He will have more options to him.

By: seahawks4lyfe

seahawks4lyfe — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:07:29 +0000

It’s not Russell Wilson pushing the new contract it’s his agent. Im sure Russell Wilson wouldn’t mind extra money, but I think he’s more worried about getting ready for next year.

By: skrudumra

skrudumra — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:54:59 +0000

I like the idea of trading Flynn for a spectacular grabeverything indefensible wide out, but that isn’t Seattle’s most pressing need. We have decent enough receivers. We really need an omniscient pass rush.

By: jprcox

jprcox — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:52:32 +0000

What is tough about this is you have some players like Wilson that deserve more money, and other players who sign big contracts that don’t perform well (Shawn Alexander/Chris Johnson to name a couple).

When it works out against players its not fair and should be adjusted, when it works against the team, no one suggests a contract adjustment for the team.

In fairness Wilson deserves more money for sure. In fairness, Chris Johnson should give back a much of money. Life is not fair.

By: 6thsense79

6thsense79 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:48:47 +0000

Players can never win. When Drew Brees played out his contract and was a free agent who held out until he got the contract he wanted I heard so many people on here bashing him for not jumping on the offer the Saints got him. Even as a free agent people want players here to just shut up and sign what ever is offered to them.

Free agency is the first time a player can truly negotiate his contract. He can’t do it comming into the league and he can’t even do it after playing out his rookie contract because he becomes a restricted free agent. Even when he becomes a true free agent he can’t do it because a team can franchise him up to 3 times and lay an exclusive franchise tag on him preventing him from negotiating with other teams.

When Wilson’s contract is up and if he plays hardball I just hope I don’t hear any of the honor your contract crowds on here complaining about his negotiation stance.

By: marcinhouston

marcinhouston — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:42:30 +0000

Maybe he can pick up some cash taking over all the endorsements of RG3 who he beat in the playoffs.

By: nashz84

nashz84 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:39:23 +0000

If there is one thing I could change in sports is that athletes get paid based on there performance, you have a great year it will reflect the amount of money you recive for that year , it will never happen but how I wish it could happen , crappy season = crappy pasta years end

By: tigerchim

tigerchim — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:38:07 +0000

The Seahawks could work out a deal with the Chiefs that they cut Wilson with the understanding that the Chiefs will claim him on waivers, then they trade Flynn to the Chiefs for Wilson, and then sign Wilson to a new contract. The Chiefs might be a potential trade partner for Flynn anyway.

By: bert1913

bert1913 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:31:28 +0000

This has to be a joke. Russell and his agent both read and re-read and re-read the cba.
I’m sure if Russell’s agent did this without his knowledge, Russell will be signing with a new agent very shortly .

By: mineallmine001

mineallmine001 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:28:36 +0000

it very likely that read option quaterbacks like rg3 wilson Kapernick will have much shorter careers. If I was one of them I would look for big money early while I was in my prime.

NO doubt wilson is looking at rg3 saying that could be me.

By: djjackson81

djjackson81 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:24:23 +0000

Cba that’s all that needs to be said. How about be great full for the money you got as a rookie and earn that ridiculous money u want in two years. Remember signing bonus already paid I believe and endorsements. Can’t tell me you don’t have a million dollar home paid for or your driving a Kia? I’m calling bs Wilson. Suck it up or go work for McDonald’s they give ya a raise.

By: 16ninersx5

16ninersx5 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:22:35 +0000

I find it hilarious that people think Matt Flynn has any value at all. He got beat out in training camp by a 3rd round draft pick who when the Seahawks began the year were terrified to open up the playbook for him. So its not like he walked in and played like he did in the last half of the year. That real doesn’t say much about Matt Flynn.

By: patssteelersorgiants

patssteelersorgiants — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:14:20 +0000

Just another option back trying to get his payday before his knee goes RG3.

By: tokyosandblaster

tokyosandblaster — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:12:01 +0000

I’d want to sign a contract for tons of money if I were a running, flash in the pan QB. In five years, this guys is a struggling backup, having two or three ACL surgeries.

By: budda6477

budda6477 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:08:41 +0000

The NFL has a pool of money that pays players for out performing their contracts. It can be as little 20 k up to a couple of hundred grand.

He will get paid plenty no matter what. This contract structure was made to protect teams from paying 60 million for mediocre play like is being done with Sam Bradford.

By: briang123

briang123 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:07:04 +0000

I have no doubt his wife is in his ear every day and that’s he knows how much every other starting quarterback in the league is making. I am sure Wilson has heard 100 times, “Tony Romo is making $15 million and I don’t see him in the playoffs”

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:06:13 +0000

There is no such thing as out playing a contract. He played well. All players expect to play well. His value has risen as a result of his play but his contract was signed with the expectation to play at a high level. I don’t see anything wrong with the rookie wage scale concept. Name one industry where the new kid that goes to work for somebody gets the most pay. He will benefit from endorsements and a huge contract when he is eligible. No issues.

By: stairwayto7

stairwayto7 — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:59:54 +0000

Too many people listen to ESPN and think they know everything. Hello THEY DO NOT! Let Wilson get put on waivers and see how quick he gets picked up. I say he is a bust next season, while ESPN has him in Hall Of Fame already.

By: kevinwi

kevinwi — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:58:06 +0000

Not much different that a player like K Blair Walsh selected in 6th round…sets NFL records, team scoring in rookie year…yet has 6th round pay for next 4 years.
Object of Rookie wage scale was “prove it” before payday…..and it makes perfect sense.
For every late round rookies like Russell Wilson or Blair Walsh, there are 10 high picks that wash out before their rookie contract expires.

By: lowriderfxr

lowriderfxr — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:57:19 +0000

Where was all the outcry when the Raiders paid all that money to Jarmarcus Russell?
I’m not blaming anything on this kid. I think he’s amazing. I don’t Flynn is that bad, I just think he’s that great. Every time I see him speak, he has an amazing attitude.
He’s a young man. He’s got many years left in him. When he’s Peyton Manning’s age he could sign for that kind of money. If he doesn’t last due to injury, no team can afford to pay someone for what they’ve done, in reality they have to pay them for what they can do.
And yes, I didn’t feel sorry for Breez when he was faced with the horrible prospect of playing for 16 million a year, and I don’t feel sorry for anyone making 900k. This kid will get his, he’s incredible!