C’mon. That includes the 5-11 season in 1995, the season Art Modell announced the move. No one was going to win under those conditions.

The year before that was the last time the Browns won a playoff game.

That’s why NOBODY (except Joe Ba) wanted him back here (or anywhere else, apparently).

It is not just Grossi in the Cleveland media who has expressed serious concerns about Lombardi’s credentials and ability. Terry Pluto and other old timers that were covering the team during Lombardi’s first stint have raised concerns as well.

Hell, the man even had to proclaim in his announcement presser that he is a “changed man” that has “learned from experience” and “all I ask is for a fresh start”. Sounds like he knows what we are talking about!

As far as people in Cleveland holding grudges…everybody involved in the Browns moving to Baltimore won, financially and on the field, except the fans of Cleveland. Modell, Lerners, Cleveland politicians, Belechick, City of Baltimore, the NFL..

Fans of Cleveland are still holding the bag for that whole fiasco. So to those of you who are ignorant of the entire story, but still choose to inanely comment, STICK IT UP YOUR ARSK.

That’s the facts, Jack.

Get outta here.

Oh Jim. You so do not sound arrogant.

I’m a Michael Lombardi fan, however, but when guys like tony Grossi look at track records with as much depth as possible he’s not making it a personal vendetta.

He’s a natural skeptic with the right to his own opinion. He formed his skepticism with facts and published it.

What’s next Jim?

Are you going to say “you know nothing about announcing” when I felt (and still do) that you never deserved football and basketball play-by-play duties?

Are you going to do it when there have been people in online and print media who felt Gus Johnson was more deserving of it than you???

Belichick’s record in Cleveland was just 34-44. Not real good. Marty Schottenheimer’s record was 44-27, pretty darn good.

Lombardi has been fired by four teams and spent the last 5 years in NFL purgatory. His picks were legendary busts, ESPECIALLY the ones he made with Bill Bellichick when they spent five years together in Cleveland. There are plenty of lists of Lombardi’s horrid draft choices over the entire span of his career that have been published on the internet in the last five days.

Lombardi didn’t have a paper cat’s chance of landing a job ANYWHERE other than with Joe Banner (for whom Lombardi served as best man at his wedding). Give it up, Nantz, every avid pro football fan in the US knows what a hopeless misfit Lomardi has been.

Similarly head-scratching is how the Jets wanted to retain Mike Tannenbaum for his cap salary knowledge when he’s absolutely crippled that team with the cap in the following few seasons.

with that kind of talent evaluation, it’s a wonder he got a job w/ NFL Network, let alone an actual NFL franchise!

I guess that last name carries some weight huh?

Floyd Reese deserved another shot before this clown, but hopefully for Brown fans, Banner who has a huge ego himself will keep him in the background. Don’t know if that’s a positive though, lol. He seems to operate best in that role where he’s part of a collective, which keeps him from putting his horrible personality on full display.

Never thought I’d see the day, two of the more horrid personalities in Lombardi and Trestman got back into the league well past when I thought their careers were over. Go figure. Guess it pays to have friends in high places.

They’ve only had success in Cleveland when Belichick, Ozzie Newsome and Lombardi were there… ane even then only marginally thanks to Art leaving.

Seriously? You really need to check your facts. They had little to no success with that trio. The 4 drafts that Lombardi was ultimately responsible for, 1992 – 1995, reads like a who’s who of bust outs. Tommy Vardell? Steve Everitt?Let’s not forget Eric Zeir… Oh, and let’s remember he was in charge of managing the cap also, and player personnel. This was when Modell had to take a personal loan so they could sign Andre Freakin Rison…. Tired of all the pro Lombardi crap. He has managed to take one good draft with the Eagles in the late 90′s and turn it into a career.

That would be like saying Dustin Diamond and Daniel Day-Lewis are the two best actors in show business.