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	<title>Comments on: Tim Brown&#8217;s allegations about Super Bowl XXXVII fade, but questions remain</title>
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		<title>By: raiderapologist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raiderapologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Florio agrees with King Peter? Tim Brown thinks that&#039;s crazy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florio agrees with King Peter? Tim Brown thinks that&#8217;s crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: surran70065</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[surran70065]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do people who have never taken a snap in their lives hold so much sway over who gets into the HOF, or not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do people who have never taken a snap in their lives hold so much sway over who gets into the HOF, or not?</p>
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		<title>By: ironmike778</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ironmike778]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wake me when Peter King is done talking.  Such a blowhard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake me when Peter King is done talking.  Such a blowhard.</p>
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		<title>By: radrntn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[radrntn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gotta love the haters comments.....bottom line even when former raiders who played in that game defended coach callahan, none of them questioned that they kept the same  &quot;Gruden&quot; playbook, but why they didn&#039;t change the name of the play that gruden used.  I mean when Gannon was calling out , the  play, there is no doubt about it that the Tampa Bay D knew exactly what play they were running.  

So if everybody wants to retract from saying &quot;sabotage&quot; so be it, but nobody can deny that is one of the greatest coaching blunders ever. I personally have no problem saying Callahan made one of the dumbest decisions ever bu a coach, on the grandest of stages, and could  easily  be perceived as sabotage.  I just wonder why this all resurfacing now at a larger scale then it did right after the super bowl.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gotta love the haters comments&#8230;..bottom line even when former raiders who played in that game defended coach callahan, none of them questioned that they kept the same  &#8220;Gruden&#8221; playbook, but why they didn&#8217;t change the name of the play that gruden used.  I mean when Gannon was calling out , the  play, there is no doubt about it that the Tampa Bay D knew exactly what play they were running.  </p>
<p>So if everybody wants to retract from saying &#8220;sabotage&#8221; so be it, but nobody can deny that is one of the greatest coaching blunders ever. I personally have no problem saying Callahan made one of the dumbest decisions ever bu a coach, on the grandest of stages, and could  easily  be perceived as sabotage.  I just wonder why this all resurfacing now at a larger scale then it did right after the super bowl.</p>
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		<title>By: hkdaddyo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hkdaddyo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How &#039;bout sparing us the supercilious (yet, amusingly enough, almost always wrong) opinions of the great Peter King?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How &#8217;bout sparing us the supercilious (yet, amusingly enough, almost always wrong) opinions of the great Peter King?</p>
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		<title>By: 8drinkminimum</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[8drinkminimum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does Tim Brown have to gain by lying?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Tim Brown have to gain by lying?</p>
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		<title>By: mjbulls45</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mjbulls45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[im investing part of my life to get to the bottom of this,

that game set me back a few years.

i think tim brown and jerry rice were onto something...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im investing part of my life to get to the bottom of this,</p>
<p>that game set me back a few years.</p>
<p>i think tim brown and jerry rice were onto something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wayne1693</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wayne1693]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Ludicrous&#039; is too strong a word to use when a Pro&#039;s Pro like Jerry Rice goes out on a very long limb to back Tim Brown&#039;s theory. Perhaps there is a middle-ground here: We all know people who have done seemingly bad or weird things, perhaps not fully consciously, but when you closely examine the complicated emotional history involved...you discover that the perpetrator was at least reckless in letting that bad or weird thing happen. Like, for example, not changing audible calls that he knows, on some level, the opposition knows...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Ludicrous&#8217; is too strong a word to use when a Pro&#8217;s Pro like Jerry Rice goes out on a very long limb to back Tim Brown&#8217;s theory. Perhaps there is a middle-ground here: We all know people who have done seemingly bad or weird things, perhaps not fully consciously, but when you closely examine the complicated emotional history involved&#8230;you discover that the perpetrator was at least reckless in letting that bad or weird thing happen. Like, for example, not changing audible calls that he knows, on some level, the opposition knows&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mullman76</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mullman76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever.  As a RAIDERS fan this does not sit well.  

Worst case scenario Callahan is corrupt, best case scenario Callahan is incompetent.  
He did not change the calls, it&#039;s obvious.  Whether that equals sabotage is irrelevant.  This act alone is an indicment on Callahan.

As for Brown making it to the HOF- he is a RAIDER the chances are slim.  It just speaks to the anti-RAIDER sentiment that is prevalent in the league- mostly by bitter owners and ignorant fans- sometimes by &quot;journalists&quot; with a HOF vote, right Gantt?

Go RAIDERS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever.  As a RAIDERS fan this does not sit well.  </p>
<p>Worst case scenario Callahan is corrupt, best case scenario Callahan is incompetent.<br />
He did not change the calls, it&#8217;s obvious.  Whether that equals sabotage is irrelevant.  This act alone is an indicment on Callahan.</p>
<p>As for Brown making it to the HOF- he is a RAIDER the chances are slim.  It just speaks to the anti-RAIDER sentiment that is prevalent in the league- mostly by bitter owners and ignorant fans- sometimes by &#8220;journalists&#8221; with a HOF vote, right Gantt?</p>
<p>Go RAIDERS</p>
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		<title>By: tblitz25</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tblitz25]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the two questions that continue to be ignored are: 

1) Why would Bill use all the same plays that Gruden used?  If your a head coach you implement your own plays, schemes, and philosophies. ie. Jim Caldwell isn&#039;t running the exact same plays as his predecessor Cam Cameron. Todd Bowles didn&#039;t run the same exact defense that Juan Castillo ran. These two coaches took over in the middle of the 2012 season. Peter King actually expects us to believe that Bill Callahan changed nothing with regards to the offense used by the Raiders that season? He was the Head coach all throughout the season and coached in Oakland one year beyond the super bowl. 

2) If you loose your starting center you don&#039;t switch the game plan from Run heavy to Pass heavy with a back up center. Coaches &quot;dumb down&quot; the game plan for backups. That typically equates to a more conservative game plan (running the football). It&#039;s easier for OL to Run block then to pass protect and in this case a back up Center calling out O Line adjustments. 

Just something to ponder. NFL teams do so much research when they Invest in players, I find it very difficult to believe that the Raiders didn&#039;t know about Robbins Bi-polar condition. 

I&#039;m equally skeptical as to why Brown waited a decade before voicing these sentiments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the two questions that continue to be ignored are: </p>
<p>1) Why would Bill use all the same plays that Gruden used?  If your a head coach you implement your own plays, schemes, and philosophies. ie. Jim Caldwell isn&#8217;t running the exact same plays as his predecessor Cam Cameron. Todd Bowles didn&#8217;t run the same exact defense that Juan Castillo ran. These two coaches took over in the middle of the 2012 season. Peter King actually expects us to believe that Bill Callahan changed nothing with regards to the offense used by the Raiders that season? He was the Head coach all throughout the season and coached in Oakland one year beyond the super bowl. </p>
<p>2) If you loose your starting center you don&#8217;t switch the game plan from Run heavy to Pass heavy with a back up center. Coaches &#8220;dumb down&#8221; the game plan for backups. That typically equates to a more conservative game plan (running the football). It&#8217;s easier for OL to Run block then to pass protect and in this case a back up Center calling out O Line adjustments. </p>
<p>Just something to ponder. NFL teams do so much research when they Invest in players, I find it very difficult to believe that the Raiders didn&#8217;t know about Robbins Bi-polar condition. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m equally skeptical as to why Brown waited a decade before voicing these sentiments.</p>
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		<title>By: stull60060</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stull60060]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There would be no hard proof of it, and none of the voters will risk their vote by proclaiming publicly that they sabotaged Brown’s candidacy in part because of his claim of sabotage.  

The statement in your article is an outright lie. Paul Zimmerman has stated publicly that he would never ever vote for Ken Stabler for the HOF. Is this slim ball still voting? I believe he is. One of the greatest quarterbacks to play the game is being black balled by Zimmerman and others. The people who vote for the HOF are corrupt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There would be no hard proof of it, and none of the voters will risk their vote by proclaiming publicly that they sabotaged Brown’s candidacy in part because of his claim of sabotage.  </p>
<p>The statement in your article is an outright lie. Paul Zimmerman has stated publicly that he would never ever vote for Ken Stabler for the HOF. Is this slim ball still voting? I believe he is. One of the greatest quarterbacks to play the game is being black balled by Zimmerman and others. The people who vote for the HOF are corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: marvsleezy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marvsleezy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter King has a job to keep and he needs to protect his access to league people.  Peter King is therefore bought and paid for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter King has a job to keep and he needs to protect his access to league people.  Peter King is therefore bought and paid for.</p>
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		<title>By: Keyser Söze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keyser Söze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Any chance that Tim Brown had of being enshrined was sabotaged when he made this statement so close to the Super Bowl. No way he gets in now. To be honest, I doubt that another Raider will ever be enshrined even if its well deserved. Such is the bias of the east coast media.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance that Tim Brown had of being enshrined was sabotaged when he made this statement so close to the Super Bowl. No way he gets in now. To be honest, I doubt that another Raider will ever be enshrined even if its well deserved. Such is the bias of the east coast media.</p>
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		<title>By: autumnwind999</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[autumnwind999]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brown should be the top rated guy among eligibles. If he doesn&#039;t get in, there&#039;s your answer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brown should be the top rated guy among eligibles. If he doesn&#8217;t get in, there&#8217;s your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Tampa knew their audibles, unchanged from previous games, wouldn&#039;t that indicate that they had compiled film on the Raiders and had analyzed audibles and play calling?

Although we know that even today, coordinators try to cover their mouths when calling in plays (which still doesn&#039;t prevent a telescopic mic from picking up the calls), there&#039;s a great many fans who have spent years convincing themselves that one and only one team in the NFL has ever filmed and analyzed play calling.

Of course there&#039;s no rule against this - Goodell simply would prefer to foster the perception that such &quot;cheating&quot; never occurs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Tampa knew their audibles, unchanged from previous games, wouldn&#8217;t that indicate that they had compiled film on the Raiders and had analyzed audibles and play calling?</p>
<p>Although we know that even today, coordinators try to cover their mouths when calling in plays (which still doesn&#8217;t prevent a telescopic mic from picking up the calls), there&#8217;s a great many fans who have spent years convincing themselves that one and only one team in the NFL has ever filmed and analyzed play calling.</p>
<p>Of course there&#8217;s no rule against this &#8211; Goodell simply would prefer to foster the perception that such &#8220;cheating&#8221; never occurs.</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised that the Raiders players and fans haven&#039;t somehow tried to blame this on the Tuck Rule, one year prior.

It seems they&#039;ve got a long list of reasons why its always someone else&#039;s fault that they lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that the Raiders players and fans haven&#8217;t somehow tried to blame this on the Tuck Rule, one year prior.</p>
<p>It seems they&#8217;ve got a long list of reasons why its always someone else&#8217;s fault that they lose.</p>
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		<title>By: umainebearman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[umainebearman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rich Gannon League MVP
Oakland Raiders #1 in total offense
Oakland Raiders #1 in passing offense
Oakland Raiders #18 in rushing yards per game
Yeah I&#039;m sure any coach with those stat lines would say before the biggest game of their career... &quot;Eh lets try and run it against the 5th ranked rushing D&quot;.  The Raiders had 16 TOTAL rushing yards at half time. Just a thought there Timmy, leave the dead horse alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich Gannon League MVP<br />
Oakland Raiders #1 in total offense<br />
Oakland Raiders #1 in passing offense<br />
Oakland Raiders #18 in rushing yards per game<br />
Yeah I&#8217;m sure any coach with those stat lines would say before the biggest game of their career&#8230; &#8220;Eh lets try and run it against the 5th ranked rushing D&#8221;.  The Raiders had 16 TOTAL rushing yards at half time. Just a thought there Timmy, leave the dead horse alone.</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joetoronto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peter King, really?

Mike, Nobody cares what Peter King thinks, nobody.

Why you keep talking about what he thinks is way beyond me. 

SMH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter King, really?</p>
<p>Mike, Nobody cares what Peter King thinks, nobody.</p>
<p>Why you keep talking about what he thinks is way beyond me. </p>
<p>SMH.</p>
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		<title>By: fuglyflorio</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fuglyflorio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crazy people don&#039;t belong in the Hall of Fame.  He should have kept his &#039;tin foil hat&#039; paranoia under wraps till he got in.  Too late now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy people don&#8217;t belong in the Hall of Fame.  He should have kept his &#8216;tin foil hat&#8217; paranoia under wraps till he got in.  Too late now.</p>
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