Chip Kelly’s quarterback vision may bode poorly for Vick

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Eagles observers are currently in guessing-game mode about the future of the quarterback position under rookie coach Chip Kelly. Michael Vick is on the roster with a bloated, $15.5 million base salary. Nick Foles was a rookie in 2012, and his performance generally underwhelmed in six starts. Third-stringer Trent Edwards is a 29-year-old journeyman.

Rich Hofmann of the Philadelphia Daily News has compiled some relevant Kelly quotes on his vision for quarterbacks. One theme stands out: Kelly does not like quarterbacks who take sacks.

“In our attitude, every sack is the quarterback’s fault,” said Kelly. “It’s not a sack if the quarterback throws the ball away. Nobody ever lost a game on an incomplete pass. Throw the ball away, and give us another opportunity to make a first down.”

As an Eagle, Vick has absorbed an unwieldy 85 sacks in 36 starts.

“The job of a quarterback is simple,” added Kelly. “He has to ‘let it happen’, and not ‘make it happen.’ We want to move forward. … The cardinal sin at our place is the quarterback sack. We want the ball out of the quarterback’s hands in 1.5 seconds. That does not mean holding the ball until 2.5, waiting for someone to get open.”

Kelly has also stated that he prefers quarterbacks who have big hands. Foles’ hands measured bigger than any quarterback at the 2012 Scouting Combine. Vick’s hands are more than two inches smaller than Foles’.

29 responses to “Chip Kelly’s quarterback vision may bode poorly for Vick

  1. In related news, note that Vick’s roster bonus of $3M due on Monday, Feb 4, is fully eligible for offset.

    This means while the Eagles will owe Vick $3M guaranteed on Monday, if he is subsequently traded or released and earns $3M+ this season with any team, the Eagles are off the hook for all of it.

  2. “Nobody ever lost a game on an incomplete pass. Throw the ball away, and give us another opportunity to make a first down.”

    please check week 16 vs the redskins where foles throws the ball away for an intentional grouding game losing penalty

  3. It is crazy to me how fast the Birds have fallen. In 2010, I was harassed by Bird fans (not in a text ‘Bad Fan’ way) at the Stick laughing at how putrid my 9ers were that day and season. That was the “We Want Carr” game. I think the Eagles lost to the Packers in the playoffs that year in a very close game.

    Now the Birds look up to the 9ers and want to emulate them; Bird fans wish they were 9er fans. Remember to enjoy the good times while you have them (instead of always crying for more); because in the NFL things can turn on a dime…

  4. 2 points: #1 Kelly is completely unrealistice with his 1.5 seconds to throw the ball BS. #2Mike Vick is definitely not his man:

    In 2012, Vick has been averaging 3.12 seconds to throw, longer than every quarterback except for Seahawks rookie Russell Wilson (3.14). The league average is 2.83 seconds. Tom Brady clocks in at 2.48; Peyton Manning goes 2.51.

  5. As an outsider I say draft a development qb to run chips offense, geno smith would actually be great if they can trade down to say 10 and still grab him, and still keep Vick restructured for a year and use the CRAP out of him, he is the ultimate Kelly qb in theory, then dump him after next year, Vick has one more productive year especially in that offense

  6. Doesn’t Alex Smith have small hands? Wasn’t that trotted out to explain some of his early career struggles? How many teams would chose Foles’ and his monster grip over Alex Smith right now? This seems like a weird talking point, maybe the 4th Chip Kelly has a QB decision article of the day will be better than the this one…

  7. This guy is going to fail. Are you telling me that he expects the quarterback to throw the ball away in 1.5 seconds if no one is open even if there isn’t a defensive player near him?

  8. Most of those sacks came from him holding the ball waiting for the wideouts to get open which is more of the coaches fault. The offense mainly went verticle and ran the ball every once in a while so the defense knew what was coming. Oh don’t forget the O-line was horrible.

  9. I must though, dont most of Vicks problems happen when he hangs onto the ball? Injuries included? If he can change, and take a pay cut, hes still the right guy for that team.

  10. Someone needs to ask Chip how his vision has helped the pipeline of Oregon QB’s to the NFL that he was cranking out up there. Maybe

  11. Watch Mike Vick play. No more productivity left. Beat up, slow a foot and of mind from beatings. He has the heart of a Lion and body not much bigger than D-Jax. Ever see them stand side by side in huddle ? Mike needs to save himself physically and the Birds move on. Get used to dumb Eagles statements from Chip. He is not in NCAA anymore.

  12. I don’t see Vick returning to the Eagles and as such, it is time to let him go.

    Due to the contract amount, his injury history, his reputation in general, and his inconsistency of performance, I think it’s delusional to think his contract has any trade value.

    The Eagles need a fresh change.

    They should do away with the midnight green uniforms, too. They represent the Andy Reid era. Go back to Kelly green or get something new altogether.

  13. Nick Foles underwhelming, eh? Author makes us Eagles fans look forgiving. He was a mid-round draft pick, played without 3 of their starting offensive linemen, a majority of their skill players, and posted a QB rating higher than the ‘seasoned’ Mike Vick, Andrew Luck, Ryan Tannehill, and equal to Matt Stafford, who had more skill around him to work with. I wouldn’t say he’s a star in the making, but saying he was underwhelming is just unfair.

  14. jackblackshairyback says: Jan 29, 2013 2:13 PM

    ever lost a game on an incomplete pass? Tell that to Jackie Smith.

    —————-
    Please stop perpetuating the most idiotic myth in Super Bowl history. First of all, they lost by 4, so scoring a TD instead of a FG would have guaranteed nothing.

    Secondly, because it was an 18-point game and not a 14-point game, the Steelers played a different defense than they otherwise would have as Dallas dressed the window in the last two and a half minutes of the game.

    It’s sad what people think they know based on 5 second clips from NFL films.

  15. I have to kind of agree with @dennisund calling Foles “underwhelming” is off the mark. He did a decent job with the “tools” at his disposal. Also, he took a beating as Vick did and kept on going. While not an Andrew Luck, Foles is not another Kolb or Feeley.

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