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Chip Kelly’s quarterback vision may bode poorly for Vick

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Eagles observers are currently in guessing-game mode about the future of the quarterback position under rookie coach Chip Kelly. Michael Vick is on the roster with a bloated, $15.5 million base salary. Nick Foles was a rookie in 2012, and his performance generally underwhelmed in six starts. Third-stringer Trent Edwards is a 29-year-old journeyman.

Rich Hofmann of the Philadelphia Daily News has compiled some relevant Kelly quotes on his vision for quarterbacks. One theme stands out: Kelly does not like quarterbacks who take sacks.

“In our attitude, every sack is the quarterback’s fault,” said Kelly. “It’s not a sack if the quarterback throws the ball away. Nobody ever lost a game on an incomplete pass. Throw the ball away, and give us another opportunity to make a first down.”

As an Eagle, Vick has absorbed an unwieldy 85 sacks in 36 starts.

“The job of a quarterback is simple,” added Kelly. “He has to ‘let it happen’, and not ‘make it happen.’ We want to move forward. … The cardinal sin at our place is the quarterback sack. We want the ball out of the quarterback’s hands in 1.5 seconds. That does not mean holding the ball until 2.5, waiting for someone to get open.”

Kelly has also stated that he prefers quarterbacks who have big hands. Foles’ hands measured bigger than any quarterback at the 2012 Scouting Combine. Vick’s hands are more than two inches smaller than Foles’.

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29 Responses to “Chip Kelly’s quarterback vision may bode poorly for Vick”
  1. 123makarov says: Jan 29, 2013 2:05 PM

    In related news, note that Vick’s roster bonus of $3M due on Monday, Feb 4, is fully eligible for offset.

    This means while the Eagles will owe Vick $3M guaranteed on Monday, if he is subsequently traded or released and earns $3M+ this season with any team, the Eagles are off the hook for all of it.

  2. jackblackshairyback says: Jan 29, 2013 2:13 PM

    ever lost a game on an incomplete pass? Tell that to Jackie Smith.

  3. halohonk says: Jan 29, 2013 2:14 PM


  4. coltzfan166 says: Jan 29, 2013 2:17 PM

    In other words, Alex Smith is the perfect QB for the Eagles.

  5. mfish2248 says: Jan 29, 2013 2:17 PM

    “Nobody ever lost a game on an incomplete pass. Throw the ball away, and give us another opportunity to make a first down.”

    please check week 16 vs the redskins where foles throws the ball away for an intentional grouding game losing penalty

  6. blackandbluedivision says: Jan 29, 2013 2:18 PM

    There’s a such thing as Intentional Grounding.

  7. nineroutsider says: Jan 29, 2013 2:23 PM

    It is crazy to me how fast the Birds have fallen. In 2010, I was harassed by Bird fans (not in a text ‘Bad Fan’ way) at the Stick laughing at how putrid my 9ers were that day and season. That was the “We Want Carr” game. I think the Eagles lost to the Packers in the playoffs that year in a very close game.

    Now the Birds look up to the 9ers and want to emulate them; Bird fans wish they were 9er fans. Remember to enjoy the good times while you have them (instead of always crying for more); because in the NFL things can turn on a dime…

  8. mactimo says: Jan 29, 2013 2:30 PM

    2 points: #1 Kelly is completely unrealistice with his 1.5 seconds to throw the ball BS. #2Mike Vick is definitely not his man:

    In 2012, Vick has been averaging 3.12 seconds to throw, longer than every quarterback except for Seahawks rookie Russell Wilson (3.14). The league average is 2.83 seconds. Tom Brady clocks in at 2.48; Peyton Manning goes 2.51.

  9. hankhillspropanetank says: Jan 29, 2013 2:30 PM

    As an outsider I say draft a development qb to run chips offense, geno smith would actually be great if they can trade down to say 10 and still grab him, and still keep Vick restructured for a year and use the CRAP out of him, he is the ultimate Kelly qb in theory, then dump him after next year, Vick has one more productive year especially in that offense

  10. reasonableeaglefan says: Jan 29, 2013 2:36 PM

    Doesn’t Alex Smith have small hands? Wasn’t that trotted out to explain some of his early career struggles? How many teams would chose Foles’ and his monster grip over Alex Smith right now? This seems like a weird talking point, maybe the 4th Chip Kelly has a QB decision article of the day will be better than the this one…

  11. alewatcher says: Jan 29, 2013 2:44 PM

    1.5 seconds to throw the football? Who is going to be open in 1.5 seconds?

  12. paperlions says: Jan 29, 2013 2:49 PM

    Apparently Kelly thinks that NFL DBs can’t cover any better than NCAA DBs.

  13. scrp2 says: Jan 29, 2013 3:01 PM

    Chip left Oregon to coach Nick Foles is basically where this is going.

  14. Ponder This says: Jan 29, 2013 3:02 PM

    This guy is going to fail. Are you telling me that he expects the quarterback to throw the ball away in 1.5 seconds if no one is open even if there isn’t a defensive player near him?

  15. vinceofdarkness says: Jan 29, 2013 3:10 PM

    Kelly said his QB has to be a good decision maker. That statement all by itself should eliminate the failed Michael Vick experience….please god!!!!

  16. jeff6381 says: Jan 29, 2013 3:16 PM

    Most of those sacks came from him holding the ball waiting for the wideouts to get open which is more of the coaches fault. The offense mainly went verticle and ran the ball every once in a while so the defense knew what was coming. Oh don’t forget the O-line was horrible.

  17. psuravens19 says: Jan 29, 2013 3:17 PM

    Dennis Dixon is on the Ravens practice squad… I wouldn’t be surprised if he was wearing an Eagles uni next year.

  18. ketch20too says: Jan 29, 2013 3:18 PM

    With tha O-Line 1.5 seconds could be a luxury

  19. alaricsrevenge says: Jan 29, 2013 3:26 PM

    Can’t lose a game on an incomplete pass huh…I think Joe Flacco and Lee Evans disagree.

  20. alaricsrevenge says: Jan 29, 2013 3:27 PM

    I was excited for this year before I read this article.

  21. Max says: Jan 29, 2013 3:29 PM

    lol This Chip kelly is going to horrible… let me see your hands Drew Brees, they too small you are terrrible! lol

  22. marvsleezy says: Jan 29, 2013 3:31 PM

    I must though, dont most of Vicks problems happen when he hangs onto the ball? Injuries included? If he can change, and take a pay cut, hes still the right guy for that team.

  23. vicksprman says: Jan 29, 2013 3:32 PM

    Someone needs to ask Chip how his vision has helped the pipeline of Oregon QB’s to the NFL that he was cranking out up there. Maybe

  24. kahunanc says: Jan 29, 2013 3:45 PM

    Watch Mike Vick play. No more productivity left. Beat up, slow a foot and of mind from beatings. He has the heart of a Lion and body not much bigger than D-Jax. Ever see them stand side by side in huddle ? Mike needs to save himself physically and the Birds move on. Get used to dumb Eagles statements from Chip. He is not in NCAA anymore.

  25. kahunanc says: Jan 29, 2013 3:48 PM

    Hang it up Mike.

  26. icdogg says: Jan 29, 2013 4:52 PM

    I don’t see Vick returning to the Eagles and as such, it is time to let him go.

    Due to the contract amount, his injury history, his reputation in general, and his inconsistency of performance, I think it’s delusional to think his contract has any trade value.

    The Eagles need a fresh change.

    They should do away with the midnight green uniforms, too. They represent the Andy Reid era. Go back to Kelly green or get something new altogether.

  27. dennisund says: Jan 29, 2013 4:58 PM

    Nick Foles underwhelming, eh? Author makes us Eagles fans look forgiving. He was a mid-round draft pick, played without 3 of their starting offensive linemen, a majority of their skill players, and posted a QB rating higher than the ‘seasoned’ Mike Vick, Andrew Luck, Ryan Tannehill, and equal to Matt Stafford, who had more skill around him to work with. I wouldn’t say he’s a star in the making, but saying he was underwhelming is just unfair.

  28. therealjr says: Jan 29, 2013 5:50 PM

    jackblackshairyback says: Jan 29, 2013 2:13 PM

    ever lost a game on an incomplete pass? Tell that to Jackie Smith.

    Please stop perpetuating the most idiotic myth in Super Bowl history. First of all, they lost by 4, so scoring a TD instead of a FG would have guaranteed nothing.

    Secondly, because it was an 18-point game and not a 14-point game, the Steelers played a different defense than they otherwise would have as Dallas dressed the window in the last two and a half minutes of the game.

    It’s sad what people think they know based on 5 second clips from NFL films.

  29. dshane71 says: Jan 30, 2013 10:07 AM

    I have to kind of agree with @dennisund calling Foles “underwhelming” is off the mark. He did a decent job with the “tools” at his disposal. Also, he took a beating as Vick did and kept on going. While not an Andrew Luck, Foles is not another Kolb or Feeley.

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