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Eagles can carry over up to $23 million in cap space

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As the Eagles embark on a new era for the first time since 1999, coach Chip Kelly and company have an edge when it comes to their cap situation.

The Eagles may inflate their base cap number by up to $23 million in 2013.

That’s the amount the Eagles may carry over from 2012, if they choose to do so.  Under the current labor deal, teams may carryover over any, some, all, or none of their cap surplus.

The full list of available adjustments appears here, with both the Cowboys and Redskins losing cap space due to the penalties imposed last year after they were determined to be in violation of the spirit of the uncapped year in 2010.

The numbers don’t reflect total cap space for 2013; instead, it’s the additional amount that each team has, or doesn’t have, available under the unadjusted cap, which is expected to be in the range of $121 million per team.  For example, the Eagles will be able to bump the cap from $121 million to $144 million.

The fact that cap money is available to be carried over doesn’t mean it will be.  Last year, the Cardinals left $5 million on the books, and the Chargers and Texans carried over none of their excess cap space from 2011.

There’s no good reason to not carry over cap space, unless a team simply doesn’t want to spend the money.  Thus, fans should pay close attention to whether their favorite team is willing to spend its money on players, before the fans decide whether they’re willing to spend theirs on tickets, hats, and jerseys.

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  1. connorchew says: Feb 6, 2013 10:11 PM

    i’m assuming they won’t replicate the mistakes they made a few off seasons ago.. but i am hoping that we make a couple splashes. i’m praying for safety help.

  2. kvanhorn87 says: Feb 6, 2013 10:14 PM

    But what about all the articles about their impending cap doom for the last 2 years???

  3. icdogg says: Feb 6, 2013 10:15 PM

    They also have some very expensive players who are likely to be released.

  4. datpinoyboy68 says: Feb 6, 2013 10:19 PM

    They need to take that money and sign some real talent..we have too many holes on this team to compete..get it right Howie and Coach Kelly!

  5. wikidpissah says: Feb 6, 2013 10:24 PM

    Maybe they can put together a Dream Team. Oh, wait…

  6. nublar7 says: Feb 6, 2013 10:26 PM

    The problem for the Eagles is that before the carry over they are way over the projected 2013 cap. Once they carry over the $23 million they will only have $5 million in cap space to spend. The Eagles are still not in a good situation cap wise.

  7. cballlv11 says: Feb 6, 2013 10:49 PM

    If they carry over $$, does it also count toward the minimum % that they have to pay out? That rule kicks in this year, doesn’t it??

    That would be one reason not to carry over.

  8. vicksprman says: Feb 6, 2013 10:56 PM

    That 23 million really helped out last year, no back up safeties to replace the two worst starters in the league. No good reserves on the oline. Yep that 23 million leftover was money well spent.

  9. thehank15 says: Feb 6, 2013 11:01 PM

    So a teams choice not to carryover a cap surplus can only impact the next seasons salary cap? The Chargers and Texans 2012 salary cap was not impacted by their choice to pass on the extra cap space in 2011, correct?

  10. gumbogumbo says: Feb 6, 2013 11:04 PM

    The Eagles won’t be spending huge $ but they are in transition which requires some spending. The ’13 draft should be their primary focus once the DC is named.

  11. boopipes says: Feb 6, 2013 11:05 PM

    Make that 22.9 million with the Dennis Dix-in-your-mouth acquisition.

  12. donny1rodriguez says: Feb 6, 2013 11:10 PM

    Remember when Vince Young called the Eagles the “dream team”, and when saying why they were the dream team he cited himself….classic

  13. thekingdp says: Feb 6, 2013 11:45 PM

    Next season there’s the 89% salary cap “floor” that dictates each team must spend at a minimum of around $108m. It would be interesting to know if that 89% salary cap floor was for the actual $121m salary cap in 2013, or the potential adjusted cap for each team?

    For instance, if the Eagles have $23m to carry-over into 2013, their adjusted salary cap would be around $143m. Does that mean the Eagles would be forced to spend 89% of that $143m (around $127m)?

    Carrying the full $23m over into 2013 would potentially cause the Eagles to spend $6m over the actual salary cap as a minimum under those circumstances. That would be a good reason not to carry over the full allotment of salary cap space each season.

  14. jb0621 says: Feb 6, 2013 11:50 PM

    Of course they will. The Eagles ownership is the cheapest in the NFL

  15. hedleykow says: Feb 6, 2013 11:56 PM

    I think some of that is accounting for the extra space in the dining hall, now that Andy Reid won’t be bellying up to the buffet any longer.

  16. nyyjetsknicks says: Feb 6, 2013 11:58 PM

    I’m sure they cut their tickets prices to refelct the $23 million in cap saving…

  17. hockeyfan28 says: Feb 6, 2013 11:59 PM

    They’ve done such a bang up job with the likes of Andrews, Babin, Nmandi, Vick, Young, and Bell the last few years with Andy Reid what harm could come from letting a guy whose never coached in the league work with the gm and front office who made some of these decisions…6-10 here they come

  18. chiefnofoldem says: Feb 7, 2013 12:00 AM

    From a PR point of view it would look bad if the Eagles did not carry this cap space over since they raised ticket prices after a 4 win season. Then again the Eagles in recent years have not been good with PR. Just ask Mike Patterson and Brian Dawkins. Maybe someone needs to tell the Eagles that PR stands for public relations and not Punt Returner.

  19. myballsareonyourmomschin says: Feb 7, 2013 12:04 AM

    At least the Eagles won at something this year… Things are looking up!!!

  20. mazblast says: Feb 7, 2013 12:08 AM

    If the Eagles have this much extra cap space, John Mara will probably have his pal The Great Roger Goodell fine them that much. He’s already gotten his way with the Cowboys and Redskins, so why not invent a violation by Philadelphia? Get the matched set!

  21. commentmcface says: Feb 7, 2013 12:10 AM

    Plenty of cap space for one Ron Mexico.

  22. lennydpocketqb says: Feb 7, 2013 12:32 AM

    mazblast says:
    Feb 7, 2013 12:08 AM
    If the Eagles have this much extra cap space, John Mara will probably have his pal The Great Roger Goodell fine them that much. He’s already gotten his way with the Cowboys and Redskins, so why not invent a violation by Philadelphia? Get the matched set!

    _________________

    Cowboys & Redskins cheated. Giants & Eagles are pure. You will have to live with that for the rest of your life. For once New York & Philadelphia stands tall together!!!

  23. reasonablemindsays says: Feb 7, 2013 12:48 AM

    Giving Chip Kelly $23 million to play with is like giving Albert Einstein modern computer technology. It just isn’t fair.

  24. udub says: Feb 7, 2013 12:52 AM

    So I’m confused by this rule. They were $23 mil under last year, so they can be $23 mil over this year. I get that.

    But what about the year after?

    Do if they go $23 mil over this year wouldn’t they just have to slash all that salary to get under the cap?

  25. romoscollarbone says: Feb 7, 2013 12:59 AM

    The spirit of the uncapped year….Ugh, Not saying the 5mil was the make or break reason on the Cowboys season, but keeping Laurent Robinson and the rapport he had w/ Tony wouldve been nice.

    And, a simple thought: It’d be great if teams could sell their cap surplus to another team for the next year. Similar to how the Gov’t allows companies to share/sell pollution credits. It would benefit the players by keeping money in the pool, and it would help shrewd smaller market teams be more fiscally competitive. By installing a cap floor as is coming next year, you keep things fair.

  26. goldenperspective says: Feb 7, 2013 1:16 AM

    Mark Sanchez is awful.

  27. lambeaufieldwest says: Feb 7, 2013 1:50 AM

    Dream Team Part 3!

  28. fuglyflorio says: Feb 7, 2013 4:51 AM

    The Redskins and Cowboys didn’t get ‘a penalty’. They simply were told the money they spent over cap had to count against the cap … same as always.

    They tried to exploit a loophole and were told they couldn’t. Which is exactly what would have happened if there was a cap.

    That’s NOT a penalty. Nothing extra happened to them … they overpaid for bums and that money had to be treated same as always.

    Haynesworth Redskins … he’s your penalty.

  29. rodneyharrisonstruckstick says: Feb 7, 2013 4:51 AM

    The last paragraph is on point.

  30. phillyphannn83 says: Feb 7, 2013 6:11 AM

    nublar7 February 6, 2013, 10:26 PM EST

    The problem for the Eagles is that before the carry over they are way over the projected 2013 cap. Once they carry over the $23 million they will only have $5 million in cap space to spend. The Eagles are still not in a good situation cap wise.
    ————————————
    I cant believe there are still people that comment here and just make stuff up. Before I address this idiocy, lets back it up and answer some other’s questions…
    First, the 89% rule is based off the league-wide cap, not your adjusted cap with carry-over included. Kingdp…even if they did have to spend 89% of the ~143 mil, it woudnt matter if that put them 6mil over the ~121 mil original cap because that number is not applicable to them anymore, they only have to be under their adjusted cap.
    Now back to numblar7…ok buddy, heres what happens when you do a little research before hitting ‘submit’…
    Your $5mil # is completely made up. Heres the facts…as of this very moment, the Eagles have exactly $15,661,051 in cap space after removing Demetress Bell. That is including the 23 mil carry-over. Right off the bat, you gotta take Vick off it because he wont be an Eagle next year. He has a cap # of $15.5 mil however, if he is cut, then he counts for 4.2 mil of dead money against the cap, but it still adds 11.3 mil onto our current cap, bringing it to $26,961,051. That is why the Eagles will NOT cut him, pay the $3mil roster bonus, and then find a trade partner. There is no dead money hit for a traded player, only a cut/waived one. So, if/when he is traded and if signed for less than $3mil, the difference will count against our cap(so substitute than number for the 4.2 to get our cap #) If he is signed for more than $3 mil, he will count as $0 against our cap, in which case you will add the $4.2 back onto our cap space, bringing it to $31,161,051.

    Sounds like pretty good cap space to me.

    p.s. heres a list of players i predict will be cut, adding more money to our cap space…
    QB Trent Edwards…..+$715,000
    WR Greg Salas………..+$555,000
    WR Ronald Johnson..+$405,000
    S Kurt Coleman………+$630,000
    DT Mike Patterson….+$4,064,000(though i dont want to see this)
    LBs Casey Matthews or Ryan Rau…+$555,000 or $480,000
    Thats an extra $6,924,000
    Possible cap space high…$38,085,051

  31. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Feb 7, 2013 6:35 AM

    They most likely will also carry over a 4-12 record for this season too ! Give them that annual CAP SPACE trophy that the so strive for !

  32. nickynick04 says: Feb 7, 2013 6:37 AM

    The eagles raised ticket prices on their
    ” knowledgeable ” fans…..while staying $23 million under the cap….meaning GEOFFRY Laurie put that $$ in his pocket..
    Eagle fans WAKE UP your owner can care less if you win…he s in it for the $$$
    E A G L E S…….pathetic franchise run by a ” shrewd ” business man…aka a rip off artist…
    I feel bad for the hard working Eagle fans who are being robbed…..

  33. fanofevilempire says: Feb 7, 2013 6:56 AM

    I hope they spend as they usually have the pass few years on those SB players.

    I hope everyone is noticing the Giants have been clearing cap room as they prepare to play in a
    NY SB.

  34. dcapettini says: Feb 7, 2013 8:00 AM

    This seems to put the Eagles in a very good position for the next few years. They obviously can’t spend this cap money the way everyone normally would or they would end up in total cap hell in 2014. But, they can take their signing bonus money all in 2013 and lower their cap obligations for years to come. It could also let them cut Vick and take his cap hit without crippling the team.

  35. uncletuna says: Feb 7, 2013 8:00 AM

    “There’s no good reason to not carry over cap space, unless a team simply doesn’t want to spend the money. Thus, fans should pay close attention to whether their favorite team is willing to spend its money on players, before the fans decide whether they’re willing to spend theirs on tickets, hats, and jerseys.”

    Spoken like a true lawyer or Washington politician…

    I want my team active to improve the squad; but I don’t want my team stuck with bad contracts or overpaying a player simply because he’s all that’s available…

    The Saints have overpaid Will Smith for years simply because he’s a starting defensive end; but he was no where near worth what he was paid and now the Saints have to cut that contract loose and take a big hit for same…

  36. sjoyner59 says: Feb 7, 2013 8:05 AM

    My team wins the salary cap bowl every year,they also chose to raise ticket prices after two 4-12 seasons…..it gets harder to write that check for season tickets every year

  37. stretech523 says: Feb 7, 2013 8:09 AM

    I’m shocked, because the national (code for half-assed) media was just reporting 2 months ago how with the Eagles tough cap situation it’s not an attractive place for a big name coach.

    Managing the cap is the only thing we’re the “gold standard” of.

  38. trrrblesircharles says: Feb 7, 2013 8:13 AM

    Just another victory for my Mighty Eagles. We are the best at the salary cap!!!! Suck on that “Super Bowl Champion Ravens!!”

  39. mojosmagic says: Feb 7, 2013 9:47 AM

    No way Vick see’s 16M so you can add that to the pot as well.

  40. philliampenn says: Feb 7, 2013 10:54 PM

    @phillyphannn83

    You say that if we keep Vick and trade him we will owe him nothing and won’t take a cap hit. That is true but you forget that no one in the league will take his massive contract paired with poor play. So that leaves us with the only option of cutting him. In doing so we will have to pay him the $3 million unless he is signed by another team for more than that.

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