Raiders will lower seating capacity

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The Raiders are taking a page out of the Jaguars’ playbook, not on the field but in the stands.

In what is being termed a “capacity adjustment,” the Raiders are planning to block off many upper-deck seats, CSNBayArea.com reports. The move is reminiscent of the tarps the Jaguars have put up in their stadium, blocking off thousands of seats that they’re unable to sell.

Although it is not yet known how many seats the Raiders will block off, it will likely give the Raiders the NFL’s lowest seating capacity. The Raiders already had the second-lowest capacity at 63,132, higher only than the Bears, who can seat 61,500 at Soldier Field.

The Raiders are expected to close “Mount Davis,” the upper deck addition that was part of the deal that got the Raiders to move back to Oakland from Los Angeles in 1996. That addition, which blocked the view of the Oakland hills that was long considered one of the nicest features of the Oakland Coliseum, has long been controversial, and the “Mount Davis” nickname was a shot at the late Raiders owner Al Davis.

The Raiders have frequently struggled to sell tickets in Oakland, and most of their home games have been blacked out. In 2012 they had only one blackout, thanks in part to the new NFL rule that allowed teams to lift blackouts while selling only 85 percent of their tickets.

78 responses to “Raiders will lower seating capacity

  1. If they close Mount Davis, then they should just take responsibility and remove it because the A’s never asked for that addition, don’t use it either, and would prefer it gone anyways.

  2. Mnt. Davis ruined the Colosseum for A’s games. It closed off the open area of the stadium and turned it into a dark concrete bowl. And now it’s going to be closed yet still ruin the experience for both Raiders and A’s fans? I hope the A’s get out of there soon.

  3. In any proposed stadium redesign, I would love to see Mt Davis removed altogether. That said, I’ve seen many games on the Mountain [most memorably 2002’s Mud Bowl versus KC] and my times in the upper deck will never be forgotten.

  4. 2010 and 2011, there were no black-outs, so I don’t agree with the ‘most of their home games have been blacked out statement’. I do agree that they have struggled to sell tickets which I think has to do with the product on the field. It is worth noting that the Raiders have lower ticket prices overall.

    Michael David Smith: Most of their home games have been blacked out. That is a fact, not an opinion. And you are wrong about 2010 — there were multiple blackouts that year.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/26/raiders-blacked-out-in-bay-area/

  5. I still don’t get it. The NFL is supposed to be as popular as it’s ever been yet many teams have a hard time selling out games. Hey NFL owners maybe it’s because the tickets and everything (parking,consessions,etc.) that comes along with it costs too much.

  6. themagicman1223 says:Feb 6, 2013 2:16 PM

    They’ll probably draft someone with character issues with the 3rd overall pick.
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    You think they’ll wait that long?

  7. When will the NFL realize that ticket prices are too high?

    It’s not that a majority of people don’t want to go to games, it’s just so damn expensive to justify going. I’ll take my 65 inch HDTV, fridge beer, and theater couches any day of the week.

  8. I still don’t get it. The NFL is supposed to be as popular as it’s ever been yet many teams have a hard time selling out games. Hey NFL owners maybe it’s because the tickets and everything (parking,consessions,etc.) that comes along with it costs too much.

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    What’s not to get? The NFL is more popular, but that doesn’t mean hometown teams want to pay high prices (tickets, food, parking, etc.) to watch their team LOSE. Let’s not forget having to deal with dumb drunks.

    Dumb Oakland drunks are borderline dangerous.

  9. That’s taking the bull by the horns! And anyone who thinks they should move to LA to solve their problems is forgetting that they already tried that and then moved back to Oakland.

    You can build the world’s biggest stadium in LA. You can put two teams there. What you can’t do is force the locals to support a football team when they have always been basketball and baseball-oriented.

    Three teams have moved out of LA; the Rams, the Chargers and the Raiders… you have to be an eternal optimist to think they’ll support one NFL team, much less the two that the NFL has openly daydreamed about.

  10. Supply and demand…take away some seats so ticket prices can remain the same.

    Which brings to question: I wonder if the Raiders will drop some of those tickets prices for the lower decks since the “cheaper” seats are no longer available.

  11. When the Raiders were half way decent in 2011 they sold out every game. When the Raiders looked like a joke in 2012 no one showed up. Funny how that happens.

    Moving to LA isn’t going to help the Raiders if they keep putting a hot mess on the field.

  12. delions00 says:
    Feb 6, 2013 2:26 PM
    When will the NFL realize that ticket prices are too high?

    It’s not that a majority of people don’t want to go to games, it’s just so damn expensive to justify going. I’ll take my 65 inch HDTV, fridge beer, and theater couches any day of the week.

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    Bingo. I really like going to games, but for the cost of (Baltimore) PSL’s I could buy a new gigantic TV every season and still come out ahead.

    Sunday Ticket is also a racket. I can go to a bar every Sunday, see the game AND eat and drink for the same price.

  13. Well it’s hard to look forward to going to games with coaches like Dennis Allen and Tom Cable. At times the product isn’t even professional grade.

    When Hue was here we had not problem selling the stadium out.

  14. Unless they are doing 2 for 1 tickets again this next season, it’s going to be Oakland blackout season again in the East bay. Hopefully Mt Davis will be removed, it’s an eyesore and frankly serves no purpose other than to create the illusion of larger unused capacity.

  15. I am sad to say that I have been a Raider fan forever and have been somewhat saved recently because my interst in football in general has waned a bit. But, I agree with posts here that they have become too pathetic to really deserve paying fans. This is an organization run into the ground by a once genius turned senile—just check the deals/draft picks over the past 10 years and look at the record…………Still a little sad but totally understandable–who wants to pay good money to see abject failure.

  16. Raider Nation!
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    Just wait in a few years there won’t be any Raiders with the way this is going. But hey at least you can start to rebuild huh? I feel as though when the Raiders draft they should have an IQ test that comes with that.

  17. The Raiders need a new stadium the league is well aware of that and it will get done.Raider fans are the most loyal fans and before other teams in any major sport starting referring to their fan base as a Nation the Raiders were the first team to acknowledge their fans as a Nation. Raidernation Baby

  18. Its funny how the majority of the post that bash the Raiders, fail to represent their team in there username or state their team in their comment.

  19. caldwellsinnerstache says: Feb 6, 2013 2:45 PM

    as a jags fan all i can say is hahahahahahhahaha!!!!!

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    Even Jaguars fans are laughing at you.. Think about that.

  20. OK, I get it . . . for some fans, actually being at the event is as big (if not bigger) as the game itself . . . tailgating, camaraderie, seeing live action, etc. But I’ve always been surprised why so many fans choose to pay for tickets, parking, and concessions rather than watching it at home on HD TV — where your bathroom is right down the hall and the fridge is right in the kitchen; plus you’ve avoided the freeway, the parking congestion and the belligerant, drunk fans at the stadium.

  21. blancanieve00 says:

    The Raiders need a new stadium the league is well aware of that and it will get done.Raider fans are the most loyal fans and before other teams in any major sport starting referring to their fan base as a Nation the Raiders were the first team to acknowledge their fans as a Nation. Raidernation Baby.

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    How can you call your fan base loyal when they are lowering the capacity of the stadium because of a lack of demand for tickets? The last time there was a demand for tickets was in the early 2000’s when the team was good. That is not loyal, that is bandwagon. The Raiders were the first to call their own fan base “nation” though. I will give you that.

  22. The poor Jaguars always get picked on for blocking off seats while the Redskins get a pass. But they Redskins went as far as to remove part of their stadium to avoid possible black-outs down the road. Please include the Redskins in all future jokes about downsizing stadium seating.

  23. Finally, we can remove the Jags from the poster children for poor attendance! A stadium that holds 78,000, reduced to 67,000…and not needing the 85% option…Right, even Jaguars fans are laughing at you!

  24. Honored to be a Raider fan through the dismal era… it’s no fun, but it builds character and keeps life in perspective. Greater days lie ahead… in the meantime, most of the teams in the NFL will not see the Superbowl before the Raiders get there again. Confident of that.

  25. I know a lot of Raider and 49er fans don’t agree to this but I would no have problems with the Raiders renting the 49ers new Stadium for a few years. Help get the organization get stable again and gain some revenue and then look into building a new Stadium in the East Bay.

  26. zerole00 says: Feb 6, 2013 2:33 PM

    What’s not to get? The NFL is more popular, but that doesn’t mean hometown teams want to pay high prices (tickets, food, parking, etc.) to watch their team LOSE. Let’s not forget having to deal with dumb drunks.

    Dumb Oakland drunks are borderline dangerous.

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    Uh, so are dumb cleveland drunk fans, and baltimore drunk fans, and dallas drunk fans and… Well you get the point.

    It’s not like Oakland is the only stadium with drunk fans…

  27. raidersfolife says:
    Feb 6, 2013 3:01 PM
    Its funny how the majority of the post that bash the Raiders, fail to represent their team in there username or state their team in their comment.

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    Since when does that matter? I could like the Jags or the Patriots or any team in between but that doesn’t change the fact that Oakland is a bottom-5 franchise right now.

    Anyone who thinks they “represent their team” is a tool.

  28. madpunter88 says:
    Feb 6, 2013 3:16 PM
    The poor Jaguars always get picked on for blocking off seats while the Redskins get a pass. But they Redskins went as far as to remove part of their stadium to avoid possible black-outs down the road. Please include the Redskins in all future jokes about downsizing stadium seating.

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    what are you talking about? it had nothing to do with avoiding blackouts. They are putting in party decks. Besides with RGIII coming in and playing well, i’d imagine that the Skins are going to be a tough ticket for the next 10 years.

  29. The Cardinals never get a mention for their seats on rollers.

    Fiesta Bowl/BCS title game/Super Bowl gets 10k seats rolled out. Cardinal home games, those seats are hidden.

    Same concept as the Jaguars and Raiders but without the national media attention.

  30. bartlettruss says:
    Feb 6, 2013 2:34 PM
    That’s taking the bull by the horns! And anyone who thinks they should move to LA to solve their problems is forgetting that they already tried that and then moved back to Oakland.

    You can build the world’s biggest stadium in LA. You can put two teams there. What you can’t do is force the locals to support a football team when they have always been basketball and baseball-oriented.

    Three teams have moved out of LA; the Rams, the Chargers and the Raiders… you have to be an eternal optimist to think they’ll support one NFL team, much less the two that the NFL has openly daydreamed about.
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    You might want to get the facts straight. The Raiders and Rams left LA because of stadium issues (construction of luxury suites) and not because of low fan support.

  31. Excellent move. Been asking for this a few years now. Although most games were on local tv last year, around the league teams are blacked out locally. 45,000 raider fans are louder than 95% of the rest of the league. As the team gets back to its winning ways again in a couple years, then we can remove the tarps. Again, great move to get all games on local tv.

    RAIDER NATION!!!!!!

  32. The Raiders lease at the coliseum ends after this year. So its quite possible that its a prelude to them going to play at Santa Clara with the niners or . Them going back to play in LA .May guess is L.A since Mark Davis has said “there is a fractional chance” of them moving in with da niners.LA Raiders in 2014 and LA Rams in 2015

  33. iamjimmyjack says: Feb 6, 2013 4:37 PM

    Embarrassing. Should of never left LA.

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    They could never sell out in LA either. The LA Coliseum has 90,000 seats. Every game was blacked out. They were in negotiations to have a new stadium built and were having trouble securing a deal. That is why they left LA…

  34. Al Davis

    Raiders

    3 Superbowl wins

    1 AFL Championship

    13 AFC West Division Titles

    Raider Nation

    Not alot teams can say that

  35. Most of the home games since 1995, that is over 50% easily, have been sold out.

    Do some research. While there have been struggles. There Have been plenty of sellouts

  36. Raiders aren’t moving to LA people. The companies footing the bill for the Stadium want to have part ownership of the new team moving in….I can’t see Mark Davis selling the Raiders.

  37. I don’t believe this has anything to do with Ticket sales. I believe this was done to get the gang members and the losers who just go to games to fight and cause trouble. I call it the snoop dog fans. They wear Raiders jerseys but they cant tell you who plays TE or CB. They all buy cheap seats since they dont care about actually seeing the game, they go there to sell drugs and hopefully shoot someone. 9ers have this problem as well. As long as their are blacks we will have this problem.. Just be honest

  38. -Firstly I am from LA and after all these years it took me to realize the Raiders did the right thing by going back home to their birth place. It is their home town.

    -2nd I believe the Raiders will get a new stadium in Oakland. the A’s just extended their lease so so i think the raiders will follow suite. Example I believe in is they have some serious ideas and planning to make the coliseum complex top notch.

    -Third it is true the Raiders have had their issues but these things change over time and fans know this even if it takes a decade mediocrity.

    4th-The only team LA team to call home would be the Rams. There is no expansion in place, the Jags are lease locked until 2027 and the Chargers are 50/50 on a LA move. If the chargers do go to LA which I really don’t see happening would only be due to stadium negotiations falling apart in SD.

    -5th The Raiders should never leave Oakland again; they corrected their mistake when they went home.

  39. o.co is the single worst professional sports facility in north america. you can’t knock raiders for that. a great facility can override team performance deficiencies but no doubt, when a team isn’t playing well and when the live experience is basically a field trip to a penal institution, what the hell do you expect for attendance??

    i travel to alameda every year from canada for at least a couple games and yes, the crowd is extremely hostile towards opposing teams. sometimes its even hostile towards itself. i would not take my children to a game there until they were well into their teen years. i’m not making a judgement against anyone because i happen to enjoy the atmosphere (and i love the raiders) but i think thats as honest as you can get re: the o.co. you reap what you sow.

  40. I will laugh at every single one of these comments from my seats next year at a horrible Jets loss at a sold out Metlife Stadium, capacity 94,000. Now THATS loyal. The rest of you are bandwagon jokes.

  41. Your an idiot..get your facts straight.

    Jacksonville covers seats because our stadium was originally a college bowl that holds 85K.

    Do a little research next time…No one fills there stadium like we do based on a population of One Million people. Who else has 6% of there pop at every game?????

  42. veence69 says: Feb 6, 2013 3:05 PM

    caldwellsinnerstache says: Feb 6, 2013 2:45 PM

    as a jags fan all i can say is hahahahahahhahaha!!!!!
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    Even Jaguars fans are laughing at you.. Think about that.
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    Who cares? It’s the Jags. At least the game wasn’t blacked out when those two sorry teams played in Oakland last year. Raider fans should get some credit for hitting 85% on that game.

  43. Though I widely prefer the pro game to college, it always amazes me that a small town or midsized city can fill up an 80-100,000 seat stadium, but an NFL team in a major city can’t even get 60,000 to come to a game.

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