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	<title>Comments on: Talk in New England that Welker, Lloyd could both be gone</title>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/talk-in-new-england-that-welker-lloyd-could-both-be-gone/#comment-2330989</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I typed out a long non nasty response yesterday and today it&#039;s gone. That gets old, since there is  no guideline of what is acceptable for us to follow.

Anyway, WW is not a system player. He is a player whose skills are used perfectly in the Pats offense. There&#039;s a difference. System players I think of as decent players whose systems mask their lack of top level skill. Pats had one of those (Adalius Thomas). 

Adn TB&#039;s air yards traveled per pass were higher than Stafford&#039;s and Flacco&#039;s. So while the Pats offense does revolve mostly around the intermediate pass, it&#039;s not like TB stands there and throws smoke routes and bubble screens all day. His best passes are the intermediate ones where you have to be quick to read the D and very accurate. Why not do most of what your QB/other skill players are good at?

What they  need to do regardless of WR corps is  get their RBs more involved in the passing game,  more like they did with Weis. The Pats have Vereen who looks promising there and possibly Demps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typed out a long non nasty response yesterday and today it&#8217;s gone. That gets old, since there is  no guideline of what is acceptable for us to follow.</p>
<p>Anyway, WW is not a system player. He is a player whose skills are used perfectly in the Pats offense. There&#8217;s a difference. System players I think of as decent players whose systems mask their lack of top level skill. Pats had one of those (Adalius Thomas). </p>
<p>Adn TB&#8217;s air yards traveled per pass were higher than Stafford&#8217;s and Flacco&#8217;s. So while the Pats offense does revolve mostly around the intermediate pass, it&#8217;s not like TB stands there and throws smoke routes and bubble screens all day. His best passes are the intermediate ones where you have to be quick to read the D and very accurate. Why not do most of what your QB/other skill players are good at?</p>
<p>What they  need to do regardless of WR corps is  get their RBs more involved in the passing game,  more like they did with Weis. The Pats have Vereen who looks promising there and possibly Demps.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerben</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t Brian Hartline going to be a free agent?  And there is Edelman and Woodhead, as well.  If the Pats are looking for a small, quick slot guy, those are all cheaper options than Welker.

Replacing Lloyd won&#039;t be overly difficult.  He&#039;s only ever really produced under McDaniels and hasn&#039;t always been stellar at that.  There will be options third or fourth round in the draft that will be as productive.

Going out and over spending on someone is not something the Patriots ever do.  No chance they are going to let Welker walk and then spend the kind of money it is going to take to land a Bowe or Wallace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Brian Hartline going to be a free agent?  And there is Edelman and Woodhead, as well.  If the Pats are looking for a small, quick slot guy, those are all cheaper options than Welker.</p>
<p>Replacing Lloyd won&#8217;t be overly difficult.  He&#8217;s only ever really produced under McDaniels and hasn&#8217;t always been stellar at that.  There will be options third or fourth round in the draft that will be as productive.</p>
<p>Going out and over spending on someone is not something the Patriots ever do.  No chance they are going to let Welker walk and then spend the kind of money it is going to take to land a Bowe or Wallace.</p>
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		<title>By: pillowporkers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pillowporkers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, people that think Welker was at fault for that drop in the Super Bowl are crazy as well. Brady hurt his shoulder on the Tuck sack. Everyone knew it. It was night and day after that, and he was seen grimacing on the sideline. Welker was WIDE OPEN and had to make a ridiculous adjustment to even have a chance at that ball. That is coming from a guy who has a lot of friends who are Patriots fans, who know that wasn&#039;t Welker&#039;s fault as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, people that think Welker was at fault for that drop in the Super Bowl are crazy as well. Brady hurt his shoulder on the Tuck sack. Everyone knew it. It was night and day after that, and he was seen grimacing on the sideline. Welker was WIDE OPEN and had to make a ridiculous adjustment to even have a chance at that ball. That is coming from a guy who has a lot of friends who are Patriots fans, who know that wasn&#8217;t Welker&#8217;s fault as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jgava19</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome to Indy, Wes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Indy, Wes.</p>
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		<title>By: charleythedinosaur</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charleythedinosaur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Ballard will be much more than a very good backup for Gronk or Hernandez when one gets injured. We&#039;ve seen how stale and lost the offense can look when one of them goes down. 

As for Welker I say let him walk and resign Edelman. Edelman can drop Super Bowl clenching passes just as well as Welker. Use the savings to sign Wallace, Bowe, or trade for Harvin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Ballard will be much more than a very good backup for Gronk or Hernandez when one gets injured. We&#8217;ve seen how stale and lost the offense can look when one of them goes down. </p>
<p>As for Welker I say let him walk and resign Edelman. Edelman can drop Super Bowl clenching passes just as well as Welker. Use the savings to sign Wallace, Bowe, or trade for Harvin.</p>
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		<title>By: ravenseattheirownpoop</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravenseattheirownpoop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 13:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe they should re-think the Patriot Way. They haven&#039;t won a Super Bowl in years and Brady isn&#039;t getting any younger. He&#039;s one good hit from retirement. 
They cheapest way isn&#039;t always the best way!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should re-think the Patriot Way. They haven&#8217;t won a Super Bowl in years and Brady isn&#8217;t getting any younger. He&#8217;s one good hit from retirement.<br />
They cheapest way isn&#8217;t always the best way!</p>
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		<title>By: oldcat157</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oldcat157]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, stop making references that because the Giants won the Superbowl therefore Ballard is good. Bad logic. They won without him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, stop making references that because the Giants won the Superbowl therefore Ballard is good. Bad logic. They won without him.</p>
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		<title>By: truetrue85</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/talk-in-new-england-that-welker-lloyd-could-both-be-gone/#comment-2330343</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truetrue85]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the stats Brandon Lloyd produced in Josh McDaniels&#039; system in Denver and St. Louis while catching passes from guys like Kyle Orton and Sam Bradford, he was very disappointing this season. The guy has either lost a step, or he and Brady just don&#039;t click... either way he&#039;s not worth the money he&#039;s due. Wes Welker on the other hand just seems to keep on ticking, so I have no problem with the Patriots giving him a nice 3 year deal for him to finish his career in Foxborough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the stats Brandon Lloyd produced in Josh McDaniels&#8217; system in Denver and St. Louis while catching passes from guys like Kyle Orton and Sam Bradford, he was very disappointing this season. The guy has either lost a step, or he and Brady just don&#8217;t click&#8230; either way he&#8217;s not worth the money he&#8217;s due. Wes Welker on the other hand just seems to keep on ticking, so I have no problem with the Patriots giving him a nice 3 year deal for him to finish his career in Foxborough.</p>
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		<title>By: reggiebush22</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reggiebush22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember, Belichick thinks he&#039;s the smartest guy in the room. How many Lombardi&#039;s has he won  recently? Brady only dinks and dunks his throws anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, Belichick thinks he&#8217;s the smartest guy in the room. How many Lombardi&#8217;s has he won  recently? Brady only dinks and dunks his throws anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Patskrieg dot com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patskrieg dot com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Welker situation is too close to call, and anyone who thinks they&#039;ve got the answer is kidding themselves. 

As far as Lloyd, I don&#039;t think too many people in New England would be crying if he left. He&#039;s a good wideout, but he left 100+ yards on the field but never (ever) trying for extra yards. At times you almost felt like he was inventing ways to get to the ground so he wouldn&#039;t have to try for RAC yards. The Patriot way involves a certain killer instinct that, sadly enough, Welker embodies to perfection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Welker situation is too close to call, and anyone who thinks they&#8217;ve got the answer is kidding themselves. </p>
<p>As far as Lloyd, I don&#8217;t think too many people in New England would be crying if he left. He&#8217;s a good wideout, but he left 100+ yards on the field but never (ever) trying for extra yards. At times you almost felt like he was inventing ways to get to the ground so he wouldn&#8217;t have to try for RAC yards. The Patriot way involves a certain killer instinct that, sadly enough, Welker embodies to perfection.</p>
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		<title>By: tunescribe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tunescribe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is pure speculation by a newspaper reporter without anything from the Patriots, the players&#039; agents, or even an anonymous source. Just his ideas on what he would do re., the 2013 cap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pure speculation by a newspaper reporter without anything from the Patriots, the players&#8217; agents, or even an anonymous source. Just his ideas on what he would do re., the 2013 cap.</p>
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		<title>By: yourmox</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yourmox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it really odd the author of this article is defending his reach of a statement that Ballard is a #1 TE on a lot of teams.  He wasn&#039;t the #1 TE on the Giants superbowl team - he was a backup who got in because of injury.  

He is a young TE who had a good 1/2 season 2 years ago and should have many more years in the NFL - but he&#039;s nothing more than a serviceable NFL TE.  Nobody is clamoring to get this guy compared to the  dynamic pass catching TE&#039;s like Gronk/Hernandez/Davis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it really odd the author of this article is defending his reach of a statement that Ballard is a #1 TE on a lot of teams.  He wasn&#8217;t the #1 TE on the Giants superbowl team &#8211; he was a backup who got in because of injury.  </p>
<p>He is a young TE who had a good 1/2 season 2 years ago and should have many more years in the NFL &#8211; but he&#8217;s nothing more than a serviceable NFL TE.  Nobody is clamoring to get this guy compared to the  dynamic pass catching TE&#8217;s like Gronk/Hernandez/Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: swagger52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[swagger52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why bother with a WR.  Brady can&#039;t throw the deep ball.  Brady&#039;s long passes are 5 yard slants or screens to Welker and Gronkowski with long runs after the catch.   If they lose Welker, they better find somebody with Steel balz to catch the ball over the middle.  Welker does all the dirty work, gets no credit, and has prolonged Brady&#039;s career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why bother with a WR.  Brady can&#8217;t throw the deep ball.  Brady&#8217;s long passes are 5 yard slants or screens to Welker and Gronkowski with long runs after the catch.   If they lose Welker, they better find somebody with Steel balz to catch the ball over the middle.  Welker does all the dirty work, gets no credit, and has prolonged Brady&#8217;s career.</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Welker, but what had previously set Welker apart from all others was his ability to make the &quot;must&quot; catch.

The past two years he&#039;s missed those catches when they counted most.

If Belichick feels the slot is well covered with 3 starting caliber TEs then it makes sense to put the money that would have gone to Welker and Lloyd to a true #1 deep threat WR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Welker, but what had previously set Welker apart from all others was his ability to make the &#8220;must&#8221; catch.</p>
<p>The past two years he&#8217;s missed those catches when they counted most.</p>
<p>If Belichick feels the slot is well covered with 3 starting caliber TEs then it makes sense to put the money that would have gone to Welker and Lloyd to a true #1 deep threat WR</p>
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		<title>By: nashz84</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nashz84]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be nice to see to what would happen if Tom hardy has a true #1 WR to throw to ,, o wait he did that one year when moss was a beast end they went 16-0 reg season , give Tom a WR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice to see to what would happen if Tom hardy has a true #1 WR to throw to ,, o wait he did that one year when moss was a beast end they went 16-0 reg season , give Tom a WR</p>
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		<title>By: kcchiefsfandave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kcchiefsfandave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Ballard was on a Giants team that won the Super Bowl.  I believe Kevin Boss was also and he probably wouldn&#039;t start over Tony Moeaki if he was healthy.

Point is Ballard wouldn&#039;t start over the majority of starting tight ends in the league.

Ballard has a lot to prove if he ever gets a chance to catch a pass with the Pats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Ballard was on a Giants team that won the Super Bowl.  I believe Kevin Boss was also and he probably wouldn&#8217;t start over Tony Moeaki if he was healthy.</p>
<p>Point is Ballard wouldn&#8217;t start over the majority of starting tight ends in the league.</p>
<p>Ballard has a lot to prove if he ever gets a chance to catch a pass with the Pats.</p>
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		<title>By: patssteelersorgiants</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patssteelersorgiants]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone can be popped into BB&#039;s system with Brady. Welker will never be heard from again on another team. Lloyd is even more expendable. Can&#039;t wait to see Pats do first 5 TE set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can be popped into BB&#8217;s system with Brady. Welker will never be heard from again on another team. Lloyd is even more expendable. Can&#8217;t wait to see Pats do first 5 TE set.</p>
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		<title>By: ampats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As much as I would hate to see Welker leave he already turned down 8+ mill on a multiyear deal was reported.

I can definitely envision a sign and trade with Percy Harvin. Player needs a change of enviorment, and Belichick oves his Gator playmakers.

I just hope Tim Tebow does not also come to NE in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I would hate to see Welker leave he already turned down 8+ mill on a multiyear deal was reported.</p>
<p>I can definitely envision a sign and trade with Percy Harvin. Player needs a change of enviorment, and Belichick oves his Gator playmakers.</p>
<p>I just hope Tim Tebow does not also come to NE in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: der6495</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[der6495]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tavon Austin would also be a nice replacement for Welker. Quickness plus dynamic speed that their entire WR corps lacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tavon Austin would also be a nice replacement for Welker. Quickness plus dynamic speed that their entire WR corps lacks.</p>
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		<title>By: der6495</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[der6495]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lloyd was brought in to stretch the field, he didn&#039;t do that.

I think if they retain Edelman and let Welker go, take the money and sign or draft somebody that can stretch the field.

Having all these weapons that can only run routes &lt;10 yards won&#039;t get you past teams that dare you to throw deep.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd was brought in to stretch the field, he didn&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>I think if they retain Edelman and let Welker go, take the money and sign or draft somebody that can stretch the field.</p>
<p>Having all these weapons that can only run routes &lt;10 yards won&#039;t get you past teams that dare you to throw deep.</p>
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		<title>By: bartlettruss</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How long before you post that this was never a story at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before you post that this was never a story at all?</p>
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		<title>By: egomaniac247</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[egomaniac247]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To the dude that said Ballard &gt; Kyle Rudolph ......cmon maaaaan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the dude that said Ballard &gt; Kyle Rudolph &#8230;&#8230;cmon maaaaan</p>
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		<title>By: bigjimatch</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pats may let Welker go because of his age and contract demands, but I think people underestimate his contributions. Brady was a clutch, efficient passer before the Pats signed Welker, but after Welker came Brady became prolific. At first, I thought it was Moss more that Welker, but Moss hasn&#039;t done anything since his last year with the Pats and Welker has consistently continued to produce. As far as pluging any reciecer in with Brady, the Pats have burned through receivers doing that since Moss left, including Lloyd (who was supposed to have a breakout year with Brady and McDaniels), and none have had great success. In fact, I think getting Lloyd, who had success in the past, was and admission that they can&#039;t bring in any receiver to plug into the system. 

Despite a couple of high profile drops, Walker makes some amazing catches, hardly ever fumbles, and gets tremendous yards after catch. If you think Ballard is going to make up for that simply because he was the starter (but not a star) for the Giants when they won the Superbowl, well OK. You could pencil Welker in for 120 catches and 1200 yards - how close do you think Ballard, or any other generic &quot;system receiver&quot; will come to replacing that?

The Pats obviously believe in Gronk and Hernandez, but that doesn&#039;t mean Gonk&#039;s injury history issues, both before getting drafted (which is why he wasn&#039;t drafted in the first round) and after, and Hernandez&#039;s general nontoughness are not big issues. If you think the Pats aren&#039;t concerned about injury issues with both contracts, your nuts. Also, the league is going to somewhat catch up with the pass catching TE with defensive personell as every team tries to emulate the Pats and Saints. That doesn&#039;t mean they wont be effective, but it not going to be as easy as throwing Gronk the ball and watch him barrel over 5&#039;11&quot; defensive backs. Also, how many tight ends is the team going to carry and how much cap space are they going to devote to it? As for ignoring the WR position and relying on a lot of three or four tight end set, the Pats basically ignored corners and defensive backs and its not like that has come back to bite the hoodie, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pats may let Welker go because of his age and contract demands, but I think people underestimate his contributions. Brady was a clutch, efficient passer before the Pats signed Welker, but after Welker came Brady became prolific. At first, I thought it was Moss more that Welker, but Moss hasn&#8217;t done anything since his last year with the Pats and Welker has consistently continued to produce. As far as pluging any reciecer in with Brady, the Pats have burned through receivers doing that since Moss left, including Lloyd (who was supposed to have a breakout year with Brady and McDaniels), and none have had great success. In fact, I think getting Lloyd, who had success in the past, was and admission that they can&#8217;t bring in any receiver to plug into the system. </p>
<p>Despite a couple of high profile drops, Walker makes some amazing catches, hardly ever fumbles, and gets tremendous yards after catch. If you think Ballard is going to make up for that simply because he was the starter (but not a star) for the Giants when they won the Superbowl, well OK. You could pencil Welker in for 120 catches and 1200 yards &#8211; how close do you think Ballard, or any other generic &#8220;system receiver&#8221; will come to replacing that?</p>
<p>The Pats obviously believe in Gronk and Hernandez, but that doesn&#8217;t mean Gonk&#8217;s injury history issues, both before getting drafted (which is why he wasn&#8217;t drafted in the first round) and after, and Hernandez&#8217;s general nontoughness are not big issues. If you think the Pats aren&#8217;t concerned about injury issues with both contracts, your nuts. Also, the league is going to somewhat catch up with the pass catching TE with defensive personell as every team tries to emulate the Pats and Saints. That doesn&#8217;t mean they wont be effective, but it not going to be as easy as throwing Gronk the ball and watch him barrel over 5&#8217;11&#8243; defensive backs. Also, how many tight ends is the team going to carry and how much cap space are they going to devote to it? As for ignoring the WR position and relying on a lot of three or four tight end set, the Pats basically ignored corners and defensive backs and its not like that has come back to bite the hoodie, right?</p>
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		<title>By: bigwii</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigwii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s been a long time coming the Patriots are run by some of the smartest people on the NFL they see everything coming way before any of us do especially with money it starts with Kraft down why do you think they have been good for so long anyway it&#039;s time for a new era it started with rebuilding the defense now they&#039;re going to rebuild the offense it started with the RBs now its the receivers they need to get younger so in a couple years when they replace Brady there will be young receivers to usher in the next young QB. He will have a good defense...yes I said that it will get better. They will have a strong run game and good receivers and TEs everything a young QB needs to be successful. So I think this is just the beginning the Pats were never going to go for a full rebuild like everyone else when they lose their star player like the Colts lol they are rebuilding slowly throughout time and still being competitive. I think a former Gator like Percy Harvin would be a great start and great replacement really the only legit replacement for Welker I think they should pick him up along with a receiver or 2  in the draft and resign Edelman and maybe a free agent. Also release Tebow he would be a good fit not at QB but if anyone can use him the right way it&#039;s Hoodie]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a long time coming the Patriots are run by some of the smartest people on the NFL they see everything coming way before any of us do especially with money it starts with Kraft down why do you think they have been good for so long anyway it&#8217;s time for a new era it started with rebuilding the defense now they&#8217;re going to rebuild the offense it started with the RBs now its the receivers they need to get younger so in a couple years when they replace Brady there will be young receivers to usher in the next young QB. He will have a good defense&#8230;yes I said that it will get better. They will have a strong run game and good receivers and TEs everything a young QB needs to be successful. So I think this is just the beginning the Pats were never going to go for a full rebuild like everyone else when they lose their star player like the Colts lol they are rebuilding slowly throughout time and still being competitive. I think a former Gator like Percy Harvin would be a great start and great replacement really the only legit replacement for Welker I think they should pick him up along with a receiver or 2  in the draft and resign Edelman and maybe a free agent. Also release Tebow he would be a good fit not at QB but if anyone can use him the right way it&#8217;s Hoodie</p>
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		<title>By: taintedsaints2009</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[taintedsaints2009]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Percy Harvin is the perfect fit for the Patriots offense.  Belicheck wanted to draft him. 

Harvin is the best athlete in the league when he can make it on the field.  He is also a ticking time bomb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Percy Harvin is the perfect fit for the Patriots offense.  Belicheck wanted to draft him. </p>
<p>Harvin is the best athlete in the league when he can make it on the field.  He is also a ticking time bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: rockislander</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/talk-in-new-england-that-welker-lloyd-could-both-be-gone/#comment-2330153</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rockislander]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG this is just a stupid article. &#039;Talk in New England&#039; is just 1 reporter &#039;thinking&#039; what they should do. Some of his alternatives are just plain stupid. The Patriots are not going to let all of these guys walk. Some, yes I&#039;m sure. But all? No way.  It&#039;s just one reporter&#039;s opinion. Stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG this is just a stupid article. &#8216;Talk in New England&#8217; is just 1 reporter &#8216;thinking&#8217; what they should do. Some of his alternatives are just plain stupid. The Patriots are not going to let all of these guys walk. Some, yes I&#8217;m sure. But all? No way.  It&#8217;s just one reporter&#8217;s opinion. Stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: volcom2143</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[volcom2143]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey mr smith. I just wanna say your the man for writing replies to ignorant people who clearly have no clue what they are talking about . I respect that . Thanks for keeping it real on PFT .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mr smith. I just wanna say your the man for writing replies to ignorant people who clearly have no clue what they are talking about . I respect that . Thanks for keeping it real on PFT .</p>
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		<title>By: lunchbox92</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lunchbox92]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having two or three decent tight ends doesn&#039;t really matter if you don&#039;t have any receivers the defense has to worry about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having two or three decent tight ends doesn&#8217;t really matter if you don&#8217;t have any receivers the defense has to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: thestatsishere</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thestatsishere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say keep Lloyd for certain and try to make a reasonable contract with Welker. This team is THIS close to being in the Super Bowl again. And it took them so long to get a guy like Lloyd who can stretch the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say keep Lloyd for certain and try to make a reasonable contract with Welker. This team is THIS close to being in the Super Bowl again. And it took them so long to get a guy like Lloyd who can stretch the field.</p>
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		<title>By: hor2012</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hor2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a Pats fan but I think they should let both of them go. I agree with one of the earlier post, I think the Ravens exposed the Pats. When the Pats go to thier spread concepts if the braket the TEs and man up against the WRs you can slow the Pats passing attack. That&#039;s exactly what the Ravens did and except for one blow coverage that allowed Welker to get free down the field, the Ravens won ever man to man battle with the Pats. It is a absoulute must that the Pats get a true number 1 receiver are you going to begin to see the decline of Brady has a elite QB. My bet is BB already knows this. And, he&#039;s looking at Bowe in KC or the draft to find a WR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Pats fan but I think they should let both of them go. I agree with one of the earlier post, I think the Ravens exposed the Pats. When the Pats go to thier spread concepts if the braket the TEs and man up against the WRs you can slow the Pats passing attack. That&#8217;s exactly what the Ravens did and except for one blow coverage that allowed Welker to get free down the field, the Ravens won ever man to man battle with the Pats. It is a absoulute must that the Pats get a true number 1 receiver are you going to begin to see the decline of Brady has a elite QB. My bet is BB already knows this. And, he&#8217;s looking at Bowe in KC or the draft to find a WR</p>
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