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Adviser: Vince Young got a loan to throw himself a $300,000 party


If you’re wondering how a football player can sign a contract at age 23 that guarantees him more than $25 million and be broke by age 29, Vince Young’s spending habits may help you understand.

Young, the quarterback who’s currently out of the NFL but was the third overall pick of the Titans in the 2006 NFL draft, is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with his former financial adviser. And that adviser testified that Young once took out a loan because he didn’t have enough money to throw himself the kind of birthday party he wanted. That party must have been something a little fancier than the birthday parties I used to have at Chuck E. Cheese’s, because Young spent $300,000.

Ronnie Peoples, president and CEO of Peoples Financial Service Inc., said in a deposition that between the end of the 2010 season and the start of the 2011 season, Young decided that he had to have a huge 28th birthday bash. And when Peoples told Young that he didn’t have the money, Young instructed Peoples to place a phone call to take out a loan.

“I think we still would have been OK to go ahead and survive until the next season, but he had a birthday event coming up that he paid 300 and some thousand dollars for,” Peoples testified. “That’s what prompted that call.”

Young’s lawyer disputes Peoples’s accounting of the situation and accuses Peoples of mismanaging Young’s money. Young is openly lobbying for another shot in the NFL, but so far has found no takers.

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119 Responses to “Adviser: Vince Young got a loan to throw himself a $300,000 party”
  1. rr2000k says: Feb 12, 2013 7:29 PM

    And he hopes to get back into the NFL….right. The Wonderlic test was definitely right on this guy!

  2. tfbuckfutter says: Feb 12, 2013 7:31 PM

    Bet no one mentions his Wonderlic.

  3. mikebrownfaux says: Feb 12, 2013 7:31 PM

    Wow, I can’t even get the bank to give me $60,000 for a house.. I wish I had no money like Vince Young does.

  4. nyyjetsknicks says: Feb 12, 2013 7:32 PM

    My last birthday my friends and family paid for me to party. Apparently, Vince Young needs to buy his friends.

  5. f00sballfan says: Feb 12, 2013 7:34 PM

    It’s my party and I’ll splurge if I want to, SPLURGE if I want to, SPLURGE if I want to.

  6. polarbroncofan says: Feb 12, 2013 7:37 PM

    Here’s a great bit of advice from John Wooden that Vince Young apparently never heard and/or certainly never heeded:

    Talent is God-given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful.

  7. jw36969 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:37 PM

    Anyone ever notice that Vince Young and Jamarcus Russell have never been spotted together at the same time. Maybe they are like Clark Kent and Superman.

  8. dmartin17 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:39 PM

    It’s one thing to spend 300k on your birthday party. It’s another thing to take a LOAN for it!

  9. nomoreseasontix says: Feb 12, 2013 7:40 PM

    I guess advisors don’t actually give advice.
    I wonder if this financial services company only existed to separate Young from his cash?

  10. freemantowilliams says: Feb 12, 2013 7:40 PM

    Dang dude 300k for a party?!?! Couple handles of captain and 4 cases of brews is like 120 @ the most. Smh can’t believe I make 42k a year and probably have more money in my savings account Than vy. That’s pretty sad.

  11. clownsfan says: Feb 12, 2013 7:40 PM

    It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad….

  12. petehemlock says: Feb 12, 2013 7:40 PM

    Was JaMarcus invited?

  13. atwatercrushesokoye says: Feb 12, 2013 7:40 PM

    Vince Young and 16 year old girls….that’s the full list of people who throw themselves birthday parties.

  14. bobonmycob says: Feb 12, 2013 7:41 PM

    What an idiot

  15. jbaxt says: Feb 12, 2013 7:41 PM

    I’ve always had other people plan my parties. Who spends that on themselves?

  16. catquick says: Feb 12, 2013 7:42 PM

    I haven’t spent $100,000 partying in my entire life, and I used to be a career drunk

  17. ttommytom says: Feb 12, 2013 7:42 PM

    If I had made 25 mil in my lifetime, my grand kids would own homes before they were born…

    You can’t fix stupid…

  18. cometkazie says: Feb 12, 2013 7:44 PM

    His and Jamarcus’ IQs together might be double digits.

    Talk about stuck on stupid.

    Good in the college game but unsuited for the pros, even on a dream team.

  19. loadofwashmother says: Feb 12, 2013 7:45 PM

    Education proves to be worthless ! Oh wait he was a athlete not a student Athlete
    Then never Mind

  20. vegaskid21 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:45 PM

    Huh…? My birthday meant I got a stuffed crust pizza with an extra topping instead of plain pepperoni.

  21. vltrophy14 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:49 PM

    Stupid is as stupid does.

  22. bharr170 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:50 PM

    You can’t fix stupid.

  23. skoobyfl says: Feb 12, 2013 7:50 PM

    It was probably his 18th B-day knowing these advisors.

  24. mrlaloosh says: Feb 12, 2013 7:51 PM

    More like Clark Kent and Lois Lane.

  25. teal379 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:51 PM

    Who’s the idiot that signed off on that loan and gave him the cash?

    I was living in TX when he came out of college – so many were sure he was gonna blow up the league. Some fans, smarter fans, realized that when he scored lower than a ham sandwich on the Wonderlic – he was destined for this EXACT outcome…

  26. minnesotablizzard says: Feb 12, 2013 7:53 PM

    When do we as a country start questioning the system that year after year keeps producing these guys? When do we have a conversation about changing the environment, culture and education systems that continue to produce individuals like Vince Young and countless other athletes?

  27. dawgpoundmember says: Feb 12, 2013 7:54 PM

    Neither one is superman.

  28. kd75 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:54 PM

    He must think he’s Vince Chase instead of Vince Young. Vince Chase got his birthday party sponsored and made $100k…

  29. alecanthony says: Feb 12, 2013 7:55 PM

    Well it definitely wasn’t a success party

  30. footballfan12345 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:57 PM

    completely unreal – what to blow $300,000 on – I don’t think a party would make the list

  31. peytonsneck18 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:57 PM

    shouldve just went to dave and busters, SMH!!! maybe vince and jamarcus should make their own show on CBS, 2 broke fools!!!

  32. packfaninvikeland says: Feb 12, 2013 7:58 PM

    300,000+ for a party? Yea you know you have issues then..

  33. filthymcnasty1 says: Feb 12, 2013 7:59 PM

    Yeah, but who among us hasn’t blown $300K on our 28th birthday at one time or another?

  34. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:01 PM

    I’m not sure there are enough ways to say stupid to describe Vince Young.

    Mentally deficient chipmunks everywhere are thanking Young for making them look like rocket scientists.

  35. dowhatifeellike says: Feb 12, 2013 8:04 PM

    My birthday was last week and it consisted of a couple sushi rolls and some $5.50 tickets to a minor league hockey game with some friends who paid for my beer. C’mon, son.

  36. washstnative says: Feb 12, 2013 8:07 PM

    The fortunate thing is that college ball is becoming increasingly complex like the pro game. Hopefully, this will wean out the stupid-athlete, and we’ll just have student-athletes.

  37. raiderssf says: Feb 12, 2013 8:12 PM

    This is like Brewster’s Millions.

  38. paul82461 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:18 PM

    Ill bet now he’s instructing his agent to call the bank back and tell them he’s bankrupt.

  39. siriusred67 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:19 PM

    How do you even spend that much money on a party??? Did he rent out a football stadium so he could pretend to be an NFL quarterback?

  40. packerman1968 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:21 PM

    300k on the 28th B-day. What the hell do you plan for the 30th?

    Oh I know he gets a cupcake at the soup kitchen.

  41. mullman76 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:23 PM


  42. chief67 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:29 PM

    That must have been one hell of a good party !

  43. sixjak says: Feb 12, 2013 8:30 PM

    His choice, his consequences.

  44. tfoz5150 says: Feb 12, 2013 8:42 PM

    He was chasing the dream…team

  45. rowdymon says: Feb 12, 2013 8:45 PM

    Please, please, please let someone have an itemized invoice for this party…

  46. cometkazie says: Feb 12, 2013 8:46 PM

    In all seriousness, who would lend him $300k in his circumstances?

  47. Political Hippo says: Feb 12, 2013 8:55 PM

    This idiot deserves everything that’s coming to him…

  48. mangoldbond says: Feb 12, 2013 9:00 PM

    thats a lot of old english to do edward 40 hands with him and his friends

  49. necr0philia says: Feb 12, 2013 9:07 PM

    This man needs Dave Ramsey or Clark Howard in his life!! People wonder why all the other countries laugh at us Americans. Well this idiot is one reason why.

  50. canuck54143 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:09 PM

    My first question is why in the heck didn’t his agent protect him? My second question is why the NFLPA doesn’t set up some type of trust fund players can opt into to protect their money and set NFL players for life? Aren’t Unions suppose to protect their members? You would think the Union would certify financial advisors to prevent players fro getting robbed. I understand its our individual responsibility to keep our finances in order, but history and stats prove a very good portion of professional athletes are bankrupt 5 years out of the league. Between agents, and the players union you’d think someone would look out for their client.

  51. higbone says: Feb 12, 2013 9:11 PM

    Vince needs to stop watching that Sweet Sixteen show on MTV…

  52. n0hopeleft says: Feb 12, 2013 9:12 PM

    Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

  53. upperdecker19 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:14 PM

    There’d better be a bouncy house at this party!

  54. joelvis72 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:20 PM

    And I bet that party was full of sweaty, shirtless black guys, just like Vince’s party from a few years back.

  55. granadafan says: Feb 12, 2013 9:26 PM

    To be fair, no one, including Vince, sadly, thought he’d live to see his 28th birthday.

  56. maiphatdong says: Feb 12, 2013 9:28 PM

    He even lost the shirt off his back….oh wait, that WAS the party!

  57. eagleswin says: Feb 12, 2013 9:37 PM

    He actually borrowed 1.9 mill at 20% interest. The real crime is that interest rate. Don’t forget that Bryant McKinnie of the Vikings borrowed 4.3 mill from Pro Player Funding also and never missed a paycheck to the lockout but somehow spent it all.

    Yea the players are idiots, no doubt but Pro Player Funding is definitely a predatory lender.

    I have no doubts that having a $300,000 birthday party was more important to Vince Young than being fiscally responsible.

  58. firestarter0728 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:38 PM


    From now on, stupidity is going to be graded on a curve because of Vince Young.

    He’s far more entertaining off the field than he ever was on it.

  59. watchdawg1103 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:42 PM

    I thought one of the jobs of a financial adviser is to prevent stuff like this from happening?

  60. truths4all says: Feb 12, 2013 9:43 PM

    Young is the proven disaster that many clueless and totally ignorant Cardinal fans desperately wanted the team to sign him during last season in order to bring his brand of cancer to the team.

    Its a good thing the Cardinals resisted the demands and pleas of the dumbest segment of their fan base.

  61. 3fingerlenny says: Feb 12, 2013 9:48 PM

    VY is just living the dream baby

  62. bengalsmofo says: Feb 12, 2013 9:49 PM

    Where is his father? Somebody needs to slap some sense into this dude? Does “you don’t have a job” mean anything to you?

  63. shadow1018 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:50 PM

    Another over hyped over rated and over paid athlete without much between the ears. What else is new??

  64. Canyonero says: Feb 12, 2013 9:51 PM

    A whole new way to spell dumb

  65. tmb333 says: Feb 12, 2013 9:52 PM

    Two Broke Fools would be a great idea except neither star could read or remember their lines.

  66. ravenator says: Feb 12, 2013 9:55 PM

    Party on Wayne

  67. arizonahusker says: Feb 12, 2013 9:57 PM

    I think he’s overqualified for political office.

  68. beerbudsnbevo says: Feb 12, 2013 9:59 PM

    “shouldve just went to dave and busters, SMH!!! maybe vince and jamarcus should make their own show on CBS, 2 broke fools!!!”


    Dave and Busters?

    That place is overpriced on the games and the beer is stale…

    And they don’t even have any good games like Defender, Joust, Donkey Kong, Galaga, Star Gate, Karate Champ or Missile Command…

    But usually a bunch of drunk cougars on Friday after happy hour…

    Oh yeah and Vince Young, although you bought one home for my Longhorns, you my friend are a knucklehead

  69. beerbudsnbevo says: Feb 12, 2013 10:02 PM

    And I forgot Asteroids…

  70. 6250claimer says: Feb 12, 2013 10:04 PM

    That’s a LOT of hookers & blow.

  71. phillyphever says: Feb 12, 2013 10:07 PM

    Gee, and to think I’m going to a family reunion on my birthday. VY’s gonna be flipping burgers until he’s 80 in order to pay that off.

  72. thetooloftools says: Feb 12, 2013 10:09 PM

    “The Eyes Of Texas” are no longer on you Vince.
    Wake up, grow up, or wilt.
    Right now I think your going to burn out rather then bust your head and get in shape and LEARN AND WORK.
    Nobody respects your game anymore Vince.
    You ain’t got none.
    You got money you never earned because of the system.
    I wish you all the best.
    You have no discipline and your busted.
    Sorry Vince.
    Your natural talent ran out and so did your $.
    Now you’ll have to earn it.
    I know you can… do you?

  73. mjkelly77 says: Feb 12, 2013 10:09 PM

    This guy’s about as smart as a bag of rocks.

  74. frydade says: Feb 12, 2013 10:12 PM

    Anyone else tried of these salaries pro’s make? People can not even afford tickets anymore and barely pay their bills… hopd they all go broke…then they can be like the rest of us!

  75. bensstinkyfingers says: Feb 12, 2013 10:14 PM

    $300 big on the 28th. B-day? Wow wait till you see the bash he throws when he turns 40, it will be epic.

  76. albertmn says: Feb 12, 2013 10:16 PM

    Maybe in the next CBA, the players union ought to ask that contracts be changed so that all of them include at least a portion of the money be deferred. While most players likely do okay, far too many find a way to blow millions of dollars (often while fathering way too many kids they can’t afford). If even a small portion of those contracts were deferred, they would be assured of having at least a little money going forward so they didn’t end up a drain on society.

  77. raiderinva says: Feb 12, 2013 10:16 PM

    Please imagine how different this story would be if that money was actually donated to the USO.

    Where it would have impacted an unknown amount of people who defend us everyday, there families, help them to recover, and help them to recover from there sacrifice.

    That is the real true sad story here.

  78. throw46 says: Feb 12, 2013 10:18 PM

    That does it, what team will step up and give this guy a QB slot?.
    Young certainly needs a high paying job to support the high level of entertainment he puts on.
    Come on now….!

  79. mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports says: Feb 12, 2013 10:19 PM

    300k on a party while people are starving on the streets. Sad really.

  80. djcologne says: Feb 12, 2013 10:23 PM

    And in other news….Jamarcus Russell ate Vince Young…

  81. sportsfrenzy says: Feb 12, 2013 10:24 PM

    And yet America bailed out the banks so they could give Vince young 300k? ‘Merica!

  82. randymossblewit says: Feb 12, 2013 10:24 PM


  83. west4420 says: Feb 12, 2013 10:27 PM

    kind of off topic but I’ve noticed that alot of you guys on blogs, Yahoo type comments sections, super bowl nation sections, etc don’t make a lot of money.

    There is no shortage of hot air coming out in these comment sections but apparently there is not alot of talent and ambition at this party.

    I’m not putting you guys down, it’s just weird that guys that talk the most smack about pro athletes seem to be the least successful guys in the country.

  84. bigalhebdman says: Feb 12, 2013 10:34 PM

    I still can’t believe that a team like Arizona or Kansas City didn’t at least give Vince Young a shot, even at the minimum with incentives, when they had nothing worthwhile throwing the ball. Larry Fitz really suffeed this year from inadequate QB play. Perhaps VY could have helped, even if it was temporary.

  85. jerseyshoregiant says: Feb 12, 2013 10:44 PM

    So here is what I don’t understand. This great, righteous guy People’s, the “financial advisor”, told Young he didn’t have the kind of money to throw the party he wanted but Young instructed this “financial advisor” to take out a 300k loan to cover the cost and this financial wonderkin People’s went ahead and secured Vince the loan. Is that what he is saying??

    I truly believe Vince wanted a ridiculously expensive party but People’s seems shady too.

  86. egomaniac247 says: Feb 12, 2013 10:50 PM

    ” If you’re wondering how a football player can sign a contract at age 23 that guarantees him more than $25 million and be broke by age 29…….”

    I don’t think anyone wonders HOW money is spent, more like HOW someone can be so stupid.

  87. badintent says: Feb 12, 2013 10:55 PM

    CFL vince. Let’s see the top contract is $400K,so yo can pay your loanshark for that loan.

  88. steelcurtainn says: Feb 12, 2013 11:04 PM

    What an idiot!!!! Can’t wait to see if there is a team dumb enough to sign this wanna be qb to their roster. Steve Mcnair must be shaking his head right about now.

  89. dachozen1 says: Feb 12, 2013 11:08 PM

    It is his money so he should be allowed to do whatever he wishes. I just hope that party was everything he dreamed of…

  90. tampabayirish says: Feb 12, 2013 11:16 PM

    I kind of like the idea of requiring that in every NFL contract (or any pro sport) that something 5% of the money be withheld from the player and held in some kind of trust or annuity that would pay the player that money over the next 10 or 20 years. That way guys like Vince Young would have something left when their careers are over and the fat NFL player game checks are gone. If the NFLPA really wanted to help their membership they would work with with management and make this happen. But that will never happen because the NFLPA would have to admit that a significant percentage of their members can not manage their enormous wealth, even with professional help. If you have not seen ESPN 30 for 30 episode “Broke”, it is shocking how many athletes are truly broke.

  91. rubicon202 says: Feb 12, 2013 11:17 PM

    LOL…can’t throw, forgot how to run, and now remembered he’s broke…welcome to the regular Joe dummy…

  92. kane337 says: Feb 12, 2013 11:18 PM

    This guy spends like the President does.

  93. phillyphannn83 says: Feb 12, 2013 11:30 PM

    maybe now people will start to realize the whole “dream team” thing was Vince Young and Vince Young alone.

  94. shlort says: Feb 12, 2013 11:56 PM

    Vince knows his style is the future of the NFL. He’ll be starting somewhere this year and making 20 million a year soon. LOL. He must have been reading PFT and witnessed the hype of the sucess of Kaepernick and figured his style was the future.

  95. raider17 says: Feb 13, 2013 12:02 AM

    I’m trying to understand why Jamarcus Russell’s name is referenced in regards to this article. This article is about going broke. Call Jamarcus a lot of things, but I’ve never heard of him going broke.

    Just Win Baby!!!
    Al Davis Forever!!!

  96. jayquintana says: Feb 13, 2013 12:39 AM

    Major difference between Young and Kaepernick and RGIII is the latter two can actually THROW the football.

  97. duncanthecat says: Feb 13, 2013 12:45 AM

    The Dream Team, an all out open bar, and a bus load of hookers.

    What’s not to love!

  98. timegambit says: Feb 13, 2013 12:59 AM

    I really wanted an AFX race track for my 8th birthday…Should have looked into a loan instead of bother my parents.

  99. mrfrostyj says: Feb 13, 2013 1:04 AM

    Dumb…yes, Irresponsible…. yes, unbelievable…. not at all.

    People are thinking about this in the terms of what you and I make. This guy was at the end of his rookie first round pick contract meaning he was probably making more than $300,000 a game. Spending that much compared to what his yearly salary was is the equivalent to you and I getting a payday loan for a weeks pay (Keep in mind NFL players get paid weekly and not in lump sums outside of bonuses).

    If you want to find out why he’s broke you need to figure out where the other 24.7 million went. In this case if his financial advisers mismanaged his money he very well might have believed that he was financially ok to do all this when he really wasn’t. The advisers throwing this out there could very well be a smoke screen to make him look like he squandered all his money but one $300,000 party for someone who’s made as much as VY had shouldn’t bankrupt him. Especially if this is the only example they have of extravagant spending from that 8 month period (ask your local congressmen in Washington how much they spend to throw dinner parties, it’ll probably be much more than $300,000).

    The biggest issue is why exactly Young didn’t question his advisers the second they told him he couldn’t afford a $300,000 party coming off of making $6.25 million dollars a year for 4 years. According to this statement he wasn’t in any major debt (as they said they had enough to “survive” till the following season) so had he fired them all and got some better people to handle his money he could have banked the money he made in Buffalo and Philly instead of waiting till the well ran dry then crying fowl.

  100. wwbbsay says: Feb 13, 2013 1:13 AM

    If I was broke and had the Impulsive behavior as VY does that he has to blow 300g’s, I would try to blow it on something I could enjoy for more than one night like a good couch, chances are that’s where the rest of his life will be spent.

    Imposter Vince Young should file suit for defamation, he is making him look bad.

  101. travel4football says: Feb 13, 2013 1:15 AM

    How did that guy pass the admission’s test at U of Texas?

  102. inkpad619 says: Feb 13, 2013 4:31 AM

    that’s nothing. you should see the bill for the after party

  103. whatjusthapped says: Feb 13, 2013 7:15 AM

    University of Texas must be proud. 4 years on their campus and this is the type of profound analytical thinking that they have produced.

  104. yyyass says: Feb 13, 2013 8:40 AM

    And my stock in Wonderlic soars!

  105. khennigan says: Feb 13, 2013 8:48 AM

    Young: I need $300,000.
    Loaner: For what?
    Young: A party.
    Loaner:What kind of party?
    Young: A birthday party.
    Loaner: For who?
    Young: Me. Wanna come?
    Loaner: Sure…waaaiiiittt a second, aren’t you the dummy who called the Eagles the “Dream Team”? I lost a lot of money betting on your team that year.
    Young: I’ll pay you to come.
    Loaner: How much?
    Young: $1,000.
    Loaner: Ok, I’ll be there.

  106. skoodsports says: Feb 13, 2013 8:50 AM

    Dream team, Dream party!!!

  107. itsfootballbaby says: Feb 13, 2013 8:54 AM

    Hmmmmm? I wonder why there’s a salary cap in the NFL.

  108. bobbybudnick says: Feb 13, 2013 9:08 AM

    I love this story. 20% interest on a 1.9 million dollar loan, for a 300k party? haha. Maybe you should have went to a finance class while you were at Texas, Vince.

  109. conormacleod says: Feb 13, 2013 9:11 AM

    I used to think if I won the lottery I wouldn’t know what to do with all that money. Now I know step 1 is to hire Vince Young. He’ll know what to do with it!

  110. glazerh8er says: Feb 13, 2013 9:32 AM

    This is dumb, but I don’t understand why people get so pissed off about it, lot’s of people got/are getting rich from Vince Young’s stupidity. It’s his money, he can do what he wants, and the lender stupid enough to give him the money must have collateral more valuable.

  111. tritan306 says: Feb 13, 2013 9:58 AM

    We should really encourage this behavior.. It’s stimulating the economy.

  112. enjoyincubus085 says: Feb 13, 2013 10:55 AM

    Sounds like Vince could benefit from a “Peoples Elbow”.

  113. drbob117 says: Feb 13, 2013 12:21 PM

    I guess those seminars that the NFL has for the players when they enter the league about how to save money didn’t take with VY. It sounds like one of the few guys that “got it” was that OL for the Cowboys( Tryon?), he kept his dough, and tossed all the money grubbers(including those in his family), out of the way.

  114. cantonbound13 says: Feb 13, 2013 12:29 PM

    Perfect example of why gm’s should pay attention to Wonderlick scores.

  115. azarkhan says: Feb 13, 2013 1:52 PM

    …but stupid lasts forever.

  116. mezanine10 says: Feb 13, 2013 2:31 PM

    Throwing yourself a birthday party and paying for it with money you don’t have???

    When did VY become one of the Housewives of Atlanta?

  117. fahmundamahbalsaq says: Feb 15, 2013 5:46 PM

    300K can buy a lot of Purple Drank!

  118. gregmorris78 says: Feb 17, 2013 11:00 PM

    I feel bad for him

    I’m sure the eagles dream team symphasizes too…

  119. defscottyb says: Feb 18, 2013 11:15 PM

    That is just sad… sad. I hate to kick a man while he’s down but c’mon. He probably thought he’d play well enough to milk another decent contract or two… and blow that. I don’t claim to be a saint, I lost well over $100K gambling in my life but I smartened up and found GA and AA too. Hope he learns alot from this. Good luck to him.

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