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No talks between Saints, Jimmy Graham

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Last year, two of the premier tight ends from the 2010 draft got long-term deals.  Neither is named Jimmy Graham.

For now, it looks like Graham won’t be getting a new deal this year, either.

Per a league source, the Saints and Graham currently are not talking.  And there’s no indication that they will.

In 2012, the Patriots were able to entice tight ends Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez to take long-term deals that paid much more than what they were due to make over the balance of their four-year rookie deals.  And if the Saints had offered such a deal to Graham last year, maybe he would have been inclined to bite.

Now, Graham is a year away from free agency.  As he gets closer to completing his rookie deal, Graham will want something closer to market value.

And while the Saints have the luxury of the franchise tag, a fight could be looming over whether Graham should be tagged as a tight end or a receiver.  In the end, the level will be determined by where he lines up the majority of the time in 2013.

Regardless of Graham’s official position, it’s easy to argue that he should be paid like a top receiver.

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30 Responses to “No talks between Saints, Jimmy Graham”
  1. thesmartest1 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:27 PM

    They would be nuts to not lock him up. He fits perfect.

  2. fuglyflorio says: Feb 14, 2013 5:29 PM

    Brees got all the cash.

  3. blacknole08 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:30 PM

    If they are playing Madden in the pic, I would beat them both…. playing as them.

  4. dat504 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:35 PM

    Don’t worry about Jimmy, we keep everyone we want to

  5. robf2010 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:36 PM

    They’ll get it done when they’re all ready. He’s not going anywhere.

  6. trevor123698 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:36 PM

    I would hope a couch potato can beat an NFL player in Madden but really you can’t even say that. they know alot about football and sucess in madden comes from having a good play calling mind

  7. dukemarc says: Feb 14, 2013 5:41 PM

    $14.7 million over the cap(including the carry over) and cutting Will Smith will only relieve half of that amount.

    Jimmy ain’t getting a new deal this year because Breesus sucked the team dry.($17.4 Million hit for 2013)

  8. sbc85 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:47 PM

    I let random media speculation such as this worry me regarding us losing Drew Brees and Sean Payton. I am not going to do it anymore. The Saints will get it done, when they get it done.

  9. thegreatgabbert says: Feb 14, 2013 5:50 PM

    “I’m open, Drew………… geez….you bonehead!”.

  10. coltzfan166 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:52 PM

    Exactly, Drew Brees got all the money. Now there’s no cap money left for other good players.

  11. aliowlsfalcons19 says: Feb 14, 2013 5:55 PM

    he’s going to somewhere they’ll pay the man, i hear there is gonna be a tightend opening in atlanta, especially if tonyg does come back for 1 more year

  12. justintuckrule says: Feb 14, 2013 5:57 PM

    They’re not playing Madden. They’re watching midget porn dvds and Brees is scrolling down to the aunt alice section.

  13. tommysaint1 says: Feb 14, 2013 6:03 PM

    Jimmy is great but inconsistent. He has a tendency to drop the ball a lot (led the league in 2012).

    Let him wait it out. He won’t leave Drew in FA. 2013 will be a deciding factor for his new contract.

  14. chattanola says: Feb 14, 2013 6:04 PM

    He’s not going anywhere, JG is Drew Brees’ little brother.

    The Saints have one year to plan and save up for re-signing Graham. He’s been a bargain these past few seasons and he’s due big money.

    Love that guy.

  15. mdd913 says: Feb 14, 2013 6:06 PM

    Yeah, that’s what you said in 2011, then they went and signed Darren Sproles and two starting DT’s, then you said it again last year and they went and signed Lofton and Hawthorne and Grubbs and Bunkley, so forgive me if I have to believe your knowledge of the Saints cap situation is somewhat uninformed.

  16. prmpft says: Feb 14, 2013 6:16 PM

    Thank you “mdd913″ – and for all of those who need to change their pants from the “excitement” which may (or may not) have been generated by this thread – JG will be doggin’ your secondary(s) w/ a fleur-de-lis on his hat for quite some time yet…BELIEVE DAT!

  17. chattanola says: Feb 14, 2013 6:24 PM

    JG play with a wrist injury (L) for most of the 2012 season–hence all the dropped passes. He would tape up both wrists so it wouldn’t be obvious during games.

  18. profootballwalk says: Feb 14, 2013 6:27 PM

    So a tight end should get MORE money because he doesn’t block?

    Seriously? Gronk is at least as good a receiver (I’m being generous here) and he blocks like a pulling guard. On running plays, Graham is wasted space.

  19. noring4youstill says: Feb 14, 2013 6:29 PM

    Unlike the FalCants the Saints have no worry at Tight End. He’ll stay a Saint.

  20. axespray says: Feb 14, 2013 6:43 PM

    trevor123698 says:
    Feb 14, 2013 5:36 PM
    “….and sucess in madden comes from having a good play calling mind.”
    ———————————-
    Hell to the Nah.

  21. prmpft says: Feb 14, 2013 6:48 PM

    well “profootballwalk” – that “wasted space” on running plays has 2-3 guys moving his way on that snap – I’d say that is as good as a block wouldn’t you?

  22. omniscient48 says: Feb 14, 2013 6:56 PM

    “Jimmy is great but inconsistent. He has a tendency to drop the ball a lot (led the league in 2012).”
    **************************************
    He was suffering from a wrist injury which required surgery after the season ended.

  23. uncletuna says: Feb 14, 2013 8:11 PM

    Who is Jimmy Graham’s agent of record?

  24. 67saintsfan says: Feb 14, 2013 8:25 PM

    There is no doubt Jimmy will be signed, probably at the last minute. Plus he will be signed at what he’s worth.

  25. vegasvinnie says: Feb 14, 2013 8:35 PM

    Loomis will make it happen. No worries.

  26. nzayir says: Feb 14, 2013 8:37 PM

    Graham isn’t as good as Gronk (Gronk had more touchdowns then him and he missed a large chunk of the season, plus Gronk may be the best blocking tight end in the NFL). But he’s better then Hernandez so his agent and the Saints should find common ground in the middle of those two deals with the money being closer to what Gronk is getting then Hernandez.

  27. scrummymustard says: Feb 14, 2013 9:11 PM

    “Graham isn’t as good as Gronk (Gronk had more touchdowns then him and he missed a large chunk of the season, plus Gronk may be the best blocking tight end in the NFL). But he’s better then Hernandez so his agent and the Saints should find common ground in the middle of those two deals with the money being closer to what Gronk is getting then Hernandez.”

    He is going to get more than both of them. They took extensions and if you average out their salaries as per year they are less than what you’d think. (gronk $6.9 mil a year, hernandez $5.8 mil)

    Graham will easily get more than that, especially if he hits UFA.

  28. rabbdogg says: Feb 14, 2013 10:37 PM

    Graham is wayyyyyy better than gronk…brees spreads the ball around to everybody equally …he doesn’t gorce feed the ball to jimmy like brady does gronk and welker…

  29. scrummymustard says: Feb 15, 2013 12:28 AM

    Also, I’m not going to get into who is better between Gronk and Graham. They are totally different players who play different roles on their own teams.

    I’d also assume that Jimmy will be looking for more money than Gronk because WR’s get paid more than TE’s. I’d guess that he plays more snaps out of the 3 point stance.

  30. meldrel says: Feb 15, 2013 1:19 PM

    In Loomis we (Saints fans) trust.

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