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Antonio Brown says the Steelers’ locker room was divided last year

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Steelers receiver Antonio Brown says his third year with the team was a lot different than his first two.

Brown said on SportsCenter today that Pittsburgh’s locker room was fractured in the 2012 season, in a way he hadn’t seen previously since being drafted by the Steelers in 2010.

“It was definitely different — guys weren’t really together,” Brown said.

Brown said Steelers safety Troy Polamalu was among the veterans who spoke out and tried to explain to the team that selfish behavior wouldn’t be tolerated. But that talk was apparently not enough.

“That’s when you know you’ve got issues and you’ve got to come together as a team. Because the reality of a team game is everyone on the same page, committed to the same thing, dedicated for one goal, and that’s winning,” Brown said.

Although he didn’t name any names, Brown said he thought he had teammates last year who cared more about their individual goals than about the team’s record. And he described going 8-8 as “a bitter taste” that he hopes will motivate all of his teammates to act differently in 2013.

“Everyone in our locker room in 2013 has to understand the value of being in there and what our tradition and history stand for,” Brown said.

Brown said he agrees with Steelers defensive coordinator that the Steelers could have done what the Ravens did and gone on a run to the Super Bowl.

“He’s right on — we definitely had the talent, the pieces in the right place to do some things,” Brown said. “But winning is not talent. It’s all about being on the same page, and each guy having the guy next to him’s back, and being committed to winning. You see a Ravens team that was committed to winning and togetherness, and that’s what it’s all about.”

For Pittsburgh fans, hearing a Steeler say the team needs to be more like the Ravens is, indeed, a bitter pill to swallow.

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  1. benroethlisberger7 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:03 PM

    We weren’t divided, he was an outsider.

  2. jagsfanugh says: Feb 20, 2013 1:05 PM

    Sounds like whining and out of touch with reality thinking. Either you do it or you don’t and they didn’t.

  3. cmdrsmooth says: Feb 20, 2013 1:05 PM

    Wait…only a Rex Ryan coached team can be fractured according to the media.

  4. Brad Smith says: Feb 20, 2013 1:06 PM

    Spoken by one of the bigger underachievers for the Steekers. I still feel he’s an overpaid player.

  5. azarkhan says: Feb 20, 2013 1:09 PM

    And yet still more unified than the Jets locker room.

  6. heyzeus143 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:10 PM

    Sometimes the tonic that is necessary though, I’d guess some or all of those selfish players are on their way to “greener” pastures

  7. dexterismyhero says: Feb 20, 2013 1:10 PM

    Sounds like the Jets!!!!

  8. ss376 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:11 PM

    A mediocre QB who missed a bunch of key games to injury, a backup QB who had no business even being in the league, a mess in the backfield, a one trick pony in Mike Wallace and Brown, who isn’t even good, and a bunch of injuries to key personnel on defense. The Steelers were going to make a run at what? The draft lottery?

  9. bullybirds says: Feb 20, 2013 1:11 PM

    The student has become the teacher.

  10. Stiller43 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:17 PM

    You had mendenhall spouting off about god knows what, and not showing up for games.

    You also had wallace who said he couldnt pay attention during games, when he got paid 3 million dollars to catch a job – a job he did very poorly. This what thought to have been because *maybe* he wasnt being targeted enough, when in fact, he was targeted more than any other time in his career.

    Good riddance to both of them. Hopefully whoever takes over their jobs will have the right attitude.

  11. charmcity17 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:18 PM

    The Ravens winning the Super Bowl seemed to hurt the ego of the steelers much more than they would like to have us believe. But let’s be honest there have been problems in the Steelers locker room since Hines Ward called out Big Ben as a drama queen. Furthermore, the Ravens practically gave the games away when the Steelers beat them in the Afc championship games. They were leaks when they bought in Todd Haley, this club is in trouble, and these problems have been brewing for years

  12. coltzfan166 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:18 PM

    And the turmoil begins….

  13. nattypoes says: Feb 20, 2013 1:19 PM

    Just because you could beat the Ravens doesn’t mean you could be Super Bowl champs. It’s a rivalry game. The difference is that the Ravens played teams outside of the rivalry better than the Steelers did, and that’s kind of important to win a Super Bowl considering you don’t get to play the Ravens every round of the Playoffs.

  14. joshdh2687 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:19 PM

    A mediocre QB, really? Ravens fans got a big head these days I see.

  15. profootballwalk says: Feb 20, 2013 1:21 PM

    A Super Bowl run? Delusional.

  16. darthvoter says: Feb 20, 2013 1:25 PM

    Here’s the difference with the Steeler organization, both widely loved and equally reviled, and most other professional Sports organizations:

    Many teams would kill for an 8-8 record. For the Steelers and their demanding fan base, 8-8 is akin to going 2-14. Say what you will, they put quality on the field more often than not, the 80′s notwithstanding. So it will be interesting to see how Mr. Tomlin handles this “fork in the road”, this period of change, and we’ll see in fairly short time, just how good a coach he is, or isn’t. Overall, Kevin Colbert and the FO have done a good job on the personnel and drafting/scouting. Whether or not this can translate to good performance on the field is a completely different question.

  17. macgruber32 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:25 PM

    Antonio brown is the best reciever on the team. Mike wallace is overrated and overpaid and it will be a blessing for him to get shipped elsewhere

  18. jarvis1104 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:29 PM

    Everything he said was true and none of it was negative towards anyone but the Steelers. I hate hearing the locker room was divided…. What I don’t get is why people come up here and write stupid comments. I understand that some people hate the Steelers. I hate the Ravens and Bengals but don’t jump on every article just to bash them. Its so dumb.

  19. ognirrats1961 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:29 PM

    Coach Tomlin indirectly is/or was indirectly part of the problem. He can’t control the locker room as it was with Coach Cowher!!! He didn’t need to say anything to maintain the “team togetherness” cause he instilled it!!! Tomlin is a puppet with everything silver spooned to him!!! Now WHO IS the anonymous source?? It shouldn’t be that difficult!!! Now with all of this flowing information coming out…..it starting to make sense on How many dropped balls, fumbles, blown calls, missed tackles and so on. In ALL my years I have NEVER seen a disgruntled Steeler atmosphere EVER!!!

  20. pgh15212 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:31 PM

    I think Brown should worry about holding on to the ball and scoring tds. Neither of which he is very good at.

  21. volcom2143 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:32 PM

    Did you see the hat he was sporting on espn during the interview ? Wow . Bro it’s not the draft .

  22. scrp2 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:32 PM

    All I know is..

    Bruce Arians is now a head coach

  23. thepittsburghkid says: Feb 20, 2013 1:38 PM

    Mendenhall and Wallace will be gone, that should help with the off field garbage.

  24. guitarkevin says: Feb 20, 2013 1:42 PM

    The Steelers fell apart last year, plain and simple. Stop making excuses and fix it. Or not, I could care less being a Ravens fan.

  25. xcornell07 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:44 PM

    Time for brown to step up and be a leader of this team. When you lose players like Ward, Farrior, Smith, etc. You’re going to lose the locker room without that leadership. Troy is a leader of the team but he’s not very outspoken, he just goes out and does his job on the field. When you install a new offense, the first year will be rough. Before Ben got hurt he was having a career year, anyone who says he’s a mediocre qb can go back to their own teams news. We’ll be back next season.

  26. krank00 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:48 PM

    Excuse me sir….isn’t speaking out to to the media about a fractured locker room still bad mouthing the team and something that is not good for the fractured locker room?

  27. dickjagger says: Feb 20, 2013 1:50 PM

    First Lebeau, now Brown. “If we did this then they wouldn’t of done that”. Quit crying, man! Maybe if you guys didn’t lose to teams like the Raiders (Chief’s should have beat you too) – you could have made the playoffs? The seasons over and whining about it won’t help. It’s hard for good franchises to have one winning season, much less multiple one’s like the steeler’s, raven’s, and pat’s always do. It truly looks like this team is on the decline, hence the whining.

  28. thegreatgabbert says: Feb 20, 2013 1:53 PM

    There was the over 35 majority on one side of the locker room shuffling around and getting their liniment treatments, and the under 35 minority on the other side with their headphones on, dancing and singing.

  29. keiselsbeard says: Feb 20, 2013 1:54 PM

    This is all the more reason that Tomlin’s job should be on the line this season. He didn’t recognize, or attempt to correct, problems that were painfully obvious to most fans. This idiot is turning the Steelers into the laughing stock all the other fans in the league want us to become. @ravenator, before U open ur uneducated yap, let me remind U, ur beloved ratbirds are still 4 Lombardi’s away from any of ur idiotic ramblings having any merit at all.

  30. citizenstrange says: Feb 20, 2013 2:00 PM

    Said the player who ran backwards for the last 45 yards for a TD …. and a flag of course.

  31. melikefootball says: Feb 20, 2013 2:02 PM

    By watching Brown on the tube today made me wonder where is Tomlin, I thought he was a great motivator. Being a plyers coach does not make you a leader. It starts with the head coach. They have had two very demanding coaches before Tomlin. As much as you hate to say it don’t ever count the Steelers out as we do other teams at 8-8.

  32. 11chambersj says: Feb 20, 2013 2:09 PM

    One of my favorite comments I just read was by “ss376.” I’m pretty sure you showed your lack of knowledge when you called a border-line hall of fame QB with two rings, mediocre. Wallace and brown are pretty good WRs who had a rough year under the worst OC I’ve ever seen. Its bad when most people watching the game can predict your play calling.

  33. 6superbowls says: Feb 20, 2013 2:10 PM

    joshdh2687 says: Feb 20, 2013 1:19 PM

    A mediocre QB, really? Ravens fans got a big head these days I see.
    ————————-
    Couldn’t be a more true statement.

    Wallace? Gone. Mendenhal? Gone. Good riddance! Need help packing? Word to Miami fans. Good luck with Wallace. He’s a selfish, selfish player with a questionable attitude and so so hands.

  34. atrophiedambitions says: Feb 20, 2013 2:14 PM

    Funny how vitriol and drama seem to follow Todd Haley around.

  35. reed20fence says: Feb 20, 2013 2:19 PM

    It’s called Super Bowl hangover.

    Players come toghether, especially after successive years of getting kicked out of the playoffs toghether, to make a final push and crown their careers off with something meaningful.

    Some retire, and others are left having already achieved greatness… so now what? Seems too much to ask to invest all that Herculean emotion and effort into things again only to achieve something you’ve already done.

    So why not just stick around, try “your best,” collect your paycheck, and go home?

    This is why you respect the Bill Walshs, Bellichicks, Lombardis, Bradys, Montanas, and Aikmans of the game.

    It requires an almost unhuman-like discipline to want to seriously do it all over again.

  36. CKL says: Feb 20, 2013 2:23 PM

    Anyone still wondering why is a pass happy league, a speedburner young WR like Wallace ( i am thinking he’s one of the guys Brown is talking about) had not a nibble last year when he was a restricted FA?

    Yeah…no. Sometimes Occam’s razor comes into play and the best explanation isn’t something like collusion, it’s that teams all knew exactly what this dude is about as a talent, attitude etc.

    As someone who has never thought much of Tomlin’s ability as a HC it’s nice to see Steelers fans starting to question him as well. I’ve always thought we wouldn’t know how good he is until he has to replace LeBeau.

  37. ravensallday2012 says: Feb 20, 2013 2:31 PM

    They were just upset watching the ravens dominate. And sorry steeler fans its all about the ravens in the afc north

  38. bobzilla1001 says: Feb 20, 2013 2:32 PM

    How was a deactivated Mendenhall not attending a game he wasn’t even going to play in determental to the team and worthy of a suspension?
    – No one outside the lockerroom even knew Mendenall wasn’t at that game… until Tomlin made it public.
    – Before Roethlisberger’s questionable injuries, the Steelers’ offense ranked 19th in scoring. Seems sad that an alleged “career year” was producing such paltry but (by the Steelers’ offensive standards) typical results.
    – Seems odd, at least to me, that the Steelers didn’t seem “fractured” when they defeated the Ravens in Baltimore with Batch at QB.
    – It seems just as odd, at least to me, that there was no “fractured” talk in 2011, when the 12-4 Steelers managed to beat just two teams (the Bengals and Patriots) that finished with winning records.
    – In both the 2011 and 2012 seasons, the Steelers’ offense finished ranked 22nd in scoring. Think how “fractured” things might be if the Steelers’ defense also ranked 22nd.

  39. lennylyles says: Feb 20, 2013 2:33 PM

    This would not occur under Cowher. Tomlin’s leadership skills have to come under question. You bring Haley in you bring in problems.

  40. jedimasterbates says: Feb 20, 2013 2:34 PM

    I’d love to see a new head coach for the Steelers, Tomlin has never impressed me.

  41. iamedreed says: Feb 20, 2013 2:38 PM

    and this is the guy kevin colbert gave a 50million dollar contract to

    dude is at best a solid #2 WR, lets see how good he is when he gets all the attention next year with wallace gone

  42. southpaw2k says: Feb 20, 2013 2:43 PM

    benroethlisberger7 says:
    Feb 20, 2013 1:03 PM
    We weren’t divided, he was an outsider.

    —————————————————

    You do realize that if a player is an “outsider,” that constitutes a divided locker room, right?

  43. 3yardsndust says: Feb 20, 2013 2:46 PM

    Lifelong fan here and a supporter of Mike Tomlin, but this is serious: if Tomlin can’t crack some heads in the locker room and get these millionaires to fall in line, he’s got to go.

  44. stoogy says: Feb 20, 2013 2:50 PM

    This team will be looking at a 2-4 win season, due to thier lack of skill and washed up players. Number 7 fits both those bills. The are goig to be awful. i love it

  45. ravenator says: Feb 20, 2013 2:51 PM

    Oh my what a pathetic team. Enjoy many years of mediocrity losers. could not have happened to a more deserving team of overrated bums. everyone is laughing at you Pittsburgh cheers!

  46. ravenator says: Feb 20, 2013 2:59 PM

    Nice front office Pittsburgh. And what a hard nose coach hahaha

  47. engymass2 says: Feb 20, 2013 3:05 PM

    Steelers let too many veteran players go and didn’t fill the void, esp. on offense. Bruce Arians and Hines Ward left a void on that side of the ball that hasn’t been filled yet.

  48. yinzer7 says: Feb 20, 2013 3:39 PM

    So let me get this straight. If our old guys weren’t hurt, and the team wasn’t divided and the draft class wasn’t a bust….we could have made a run at the Super Bowl. Terrfic!

  49. bubbybrister/shovelpass says: Feb 20, 2013 3:40 PM

    So the Steelers go 8-8 with a fractured locker room, a lousy OC, a bombastic coach, and a moody, former Pittsburgh WR!?

    Heck, the Jets did all that last year!

    Enjoy your 6-10 season next year, Steeler fans!

  50. unbiased75 says: Feb 20, 2013 3:47 PM

    These types of things DID occur when Cowher was the head coach. Does anyone remember the fight breaking out in the locker room during mini-camp before the ’99 season?? Richard Huntley had picked up a chair to use WWF style on someone. BTW, Cowhers 1999 squad produced a 6-10 record. Does anyone remember the infamous Scott Shields whiffing tackles on Qadry Ismail in Three Rivers when Qadry had a career day with TONY BANKS (I think it was Tony) at QB for the Ravens? Cowher also coached a 7-9 team the year before the 6-10 debacle. I love Cowher but please stop saying he never had these issues because HE DID!

  51. ahostiletakeover says: Feb 20, 2013 3:53 PM

    Steelers fans saying their offense is predictable, just think if you had Cam cameron for the last 3 years…

  52. steelcurtainn says: Feb 20, 2013 3:58 PM

    This is more motivation for the steelers to regain the division,where their usually accustom too.

  53. matthewmtg45 says: Feb 20, 2013 4:22 PM

    I’ve always said that NFL football is never just all about skill. It isn’t.

    The reality is, is that skill is a huge part, yes, but also what I call “good fortune” or “luck” if you will.

    Injuries fall under the “good fortune” element, or lack there of. It’s just reality. Keep star players healthy, chances for team success improve.

    Not only is being able to succeed at high levels about skill and lack of injuries, but also simply having the ‘ball bounce your way’ periodically throughout the season. A play here, a play there, penalties, or lack there of, etc.

    In the end, I firmly believe that actually winning the super bowl, a team has to have the skill, surely, but also has to have these other element fall into place, as well.

    Just the way it, and has been.

  54. buckfigben says: Feb 20, 2013 4:26 PM

    Steelers fans ran Arians out of town and got Haley.

    They went 8-8, Arians won coach of the year.

    Steelers fans should stop talking.

  55. jimiinpa says: Feb 20, 2013 4:31 PM

    todd haley=the T.O. of coaches

  56. bobzilla1001 says: Feb 20, 2013 4:48 PM

    engymass2:
    Please explain to me how Arians’ departure left a “void”?
    Haley’s 2012 offense — as awful as it was — produced more points than Arians’ 2011 offense. Arians’ 2008 offense was the second worst in league history to win a Super Bowl.
    In that Super Bowl, No. 43, Haley’s Arizona offense outscored Arians’ Pittsburgh offense, 23-20.
    I’m getting a little tired of hearing and reading how indespensible Arians was. The man was replaced for a reason!!!

  57. unbiased75 says: Feb 20, 2013 5:08 PM

    I’m fine with Haley as our O.C. and we’ll have a better idea of how his offense will work out this coming season. What I don’t agree with was how Art Rooney II handled getting rid of Arians. Just tell everyone that you chose to not renew the man’s contract instead of that “he retired” bs. They looked like fools when he got hired a week later (or however long it was). Dan Rooney would’ve never handled that situation the way Art II chose to. Glad he’s coming back home!

  58. blackangold4life says: Feb 20, 2013 10:15 PM

    steelers will be fine just dont want to here about the standard untill tomlin sperates the seed from the chaff cant wait to watch the ravens try to stay on top as sloppy as things seam steelers have upside they no what it takes to come back blackbirds are in uncharted waters

  59. antibenapalooza says: Feb 21, 2013 6:07 AM

    Let’s begin by getting rid of the “mediocre QB”, Rottenberger!!!

  60. lombardiwinners2013 says: Feb 21, 2013 6:39 AM

    Steelers fans are the worst “fans” in all of sports. Anytime a player stirs something up, they say they don’t want him. Santonio, Wallace, Woodley, Harrison, Brown etc. True fans reside in Baltimore where we support our players through ups and downs. Lewis, Flacco, Suggs, Reed etc. Unfortunately, most Steelers fans do not live in or around the city they cheer for, so they’ll NEVER experience the level of pride and closeness we feel for our players. Get ready for years of misery,”Pittsburgh.”

  61. blasterpastor says: Feb 21, 2013 12:34 PM

    If true, sounds to me like the Rooneys need to step in and set the team straight. Arguing, not showing up, causing problems? You’re gone! btw: The coach has a big role here and he should be gone if he can’t control this mess!

  62. enoughofthatalready says: Feb 21, 2013 2:29 PM

    lombardiwinner……I do not know any Steelers fans that do not want Brown, Woodley or Harrison on the team. Santonio Holmes was a cancer and you can see that still in him. Wallace simply gave up the entire year last year. If true fans reside in Baltimore, why did you root for the Redskins after the Colts left and only accepted the Ravens when they started to play better than the Redskins in the late 90′s?

  63. enoughofthatalready says: Feb 21, 2013 2:32 PM

    antiben……..Mediocre as in AFC Championship appearance in his rookie year with a 13-0 starting QB record, a Super Bowl win in his second season as a number 6 seed in the playoffs with wins against the 3 best AFC playoff teams that year, a second Super Bowl win in his fifth season with a win over the Ravens in the playoffs, a third Super Bowl appearance in his seventh season with a win over the Ravens in the playoffs after being suspended for 4 games in the same year…….so mediocre.

  64. enoughofthatalready says: Feb 21, 2013 2:35 PM

    BTW, it was not Arians that made the Colts better this year. Andrew Luck was pretty good. The Colts rallied around Chuck Pagano, Chuck Strong. That is what made the Colts better….temporarily. Colts will be locky to finish 8-8 this year. Arians will be lucky to win 6 games in Arizona this year.

  65. blackangold4life says: Feb 21, 2013 3:08 PM

    41years of steelers pride anywhere in u.s.a.(w. tenn.) is just as as deep or deeper.than any bus ride to game.we don’t root for the tennessee oilers. never have/ never will

  66. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 21, 2013 3:20 PM

    Unfortunately, most Steelers fans do not live in or around the city they cheer for, so they’ll NEVER experience the level of pride and closeness we feel for our players. Get ready for years of

    What qualifies you to make such a ridiculous statement.i realize winning a Super Bowl is new for you, but almost every year a different team wins the game and their fan reaction is hardly as condescending as what you just posted. Act like a champ not a chump and people may stop laughing at raven fans.

  67. 66orioles says: Feb 21, 2013 3:34 PM

    Sorry Brown & LeBeau but the Steelers could not have made that run mainly because their depth was not as deep as the Ravens.

    Recently your Front Office, Scouting and Coaching Personnel have taken success for granted and has hurt the on field results.

  68. ravenator says: Feb 21, 2013 5:30 PM

    stop laughing at raven fans? Hahaha, the only joke here is you. Your own fan base hates you. One team just won the superbowl, the other is arguing like little children about their individual performances. What a joke of a franchise.

  69. bobzilla1001 says: Feb 21, 2013 5:44 PM

    enoughof:
    In 2004, the Steelers had the No. 1 defense in the league, they pounded the ball with Duce Staley and Jerome Bettis splitting time, and Roethlisberger threw a whopping 17 TD passes in 13 starts. Yet you are content to give the quarterback a 13-0 record.
    Oh, and those two Super Bowl wins you speak of: Two Super Bowl wins, one TD pass.
    As for that third Super Bowl appearance you mentioned: A pick-six (7) in a six-point loss.
    Sorry, but I’m thinking that’s all pretty a-v-e-r-a-g-e.

  70. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 21, 2013 6:11 PM

    ravenator says:
    Feb 21, 2013 5:30 PM
    stop laughing at raven fans? Hahaha, the only joke here is you. Your own fan base hates you. One team just won the superbowl, the other is arguing like little children about their individual performances. What a joke of a franchise.

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    Fan boy as someone who worships someone convicted of obstruction of justice calling the steelers a joke of a franchise is rich very rich indeed. Look at the thread of Ray going on ESPN hundreds of down votes and the steelers are a joke?……the joke is you and your fan base is embarrasses y you.

  71. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 21, 2013 6:16 PM

    Ah Ravenator you upset because I said everyone is laughing at raven fans…what are you the last to know…thought you knew everything… Don’t have a app that measures the scorn raven fans get from everyone? …make one up like the history you enjoy rewriting….

  72. scoobies05 says: Feb 21, 2013 6:41 PM

    i sure hope you arent of the belief that steelers and their fans are beloved. no one likes teams that win…and you sir are the most condescending of all. attacking ravens fans over ray but ignoring the fact that steeler nation worships ben….tsk tsk….very much dstorting of facts.

  73. rbk525 says: Feb 21, 2013 6:45 PM

    This is precisely what a new offensive coordinator who can;t hit the back of his butt with a 2″x4″ will do to a team. And, will continue to do to a team until they wake up & shuck him.

  74. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 21, 2013 7:56 PM

    Feb 21, 2013 6:41 PM
    i sure hope you arent of the belief that steelers and their fans are beloved. no one likes teams that win…and you sir are the most condescending of all. attacking ravens fans over ray but ignoring the fact that steeler nation worships ben….tsk tsk….very much dstorting of facts.

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    I appreciate your awarding the most of anything …wait you are just a raven fan boy so it doesn’t mean much… Skippy no proposals for any statue for Ben, but in Baltimore you want a shrine for an obstructor of justice ..please where is your morality,ethics, maybe reality even….please you are a joke that most of the US laughs at, but you just don’t realize it yet.

  75. scoobies05 says: Feb 21, 2013 8:22 PM

    i just love reading your misinformed posts. but at least you finally got something right. and since atlanta has ray lewis ever been connected to any trouble at all? answer is no. and if you lved here you would know how much good ray has done. is he a saint? of course not. but i love how you are so sick of him yet cant stop mentioning him. and who are you to judge anyone when you clearly dont know all the facts. and if ben has the career ray has had and they want to build him a statue im sure you would be first in line for donations. now why dont you try writing a post that isnt condescending or insulting. your name calling just makes you look small

  76. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 21, 2013 8:29 PM

    i just love reading your misinformed posts. but at least you finally got something right. and since atlanta has ray lewis ever been connected to any trouble at all? answer is no. and if you lved here you would know how much good ray has done. is he a saint? of course not. but i love how you are so sick of him yet cant stop mentioning him. and who are you to judge anyone when you clearly dont know all the facts. and if ben has the career ray has had and they want to build him a statue im sure you would be first in line for donations. now why dont you try writing a post that isnt condescending or insulting. your name calling just makes you look small

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    Yup small enough to look down on a worshiper of an obstructor of justice in a murder case…. Served in Viet Nam saw life wasted and don’t like to see it wasted and those doing the wasting go free. You are an innocent … You know little of the real world because you are protected, never risking your life, time, or future….but you are not alone

  77. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 21, 2013 8:40 PM

    Scoobie calling something as it is is not condescending, it’s not PC which you have been raised to follow or hide behind, but I was raised to call something that looks like a pig, smells like a pig, and is from Baltimore it’s a pig. Insulting ..? Please you support Ray Lewis and you talk insulting….come on listen to America dude!

  78. scoobies05 says: Feb 22, 2013 12:31 PM

    in all sincerity thank you for your service. i truly respect and appreciate you and anyone else who risks their life in service to our country. however you are extremely arrogant to presume you know anything about my life and condescending to assume what i know dont know or have experienced. you fought for your country. ray lewis went throught the legal system you fought to defend was judged and paid his penalty. here are facts. the men who died that night instigated the fight. the men that killed him were judged to act in self defense. no one said ray had anything to do with their deaths. he was a target because of who he is. and your blanket judgements of the city of baltimore make you seem bitter nad childish and you are probably better than that. again thanks for your service but stop taking yourself as judge and jury.

  79. Nofoolnodrool says: Feb 22, 2013 5:40 PM

    My respect for life and one’s right to live theirs out to the fullest is very important to me. Someone to be a party to directly or indirectly in some one losing their life is not to be made a hero especially when they refuse to answer question about the night in question. Self incrimination is a very powerful thing to hide behind so I understand his reluctance to comment which is the answer to it all along with a missing white suit you don’t care to explain. But I am done with this issue…he is your hero not mine and we both sleep at night knowing that.

  80. scoobies05 says: Feb 22, 2013 9:25 PM

    never claimed he was my hero. he is a football player. my hero is my dad who worked hard to support his family…again you dont know me. i too am done with this issue. my only point was to point out the facts of the case. i hope you are sincere when you say this and quit posting shots every chance you get. lets talk football and have good conversations….and remember your steeler nation holds ben in high regard too. and he is no choirboy

  81. scoobies05 says: Feb 22, 2013 9:28 PM

    oh…as far as the white suit….here is what i think. i already explained to you the details of the evening. i think ray got caught up in the fight…blood was obviously spilled…and it got on his suit. which doesnt mean that he had a knife or killed anyone. he panicked. he was 25 at the time and made a bad decision. he probably destroyed the suit. obstructed justice…guilty. served his time paid his fine.

  82. antibenapalooza says: Feb 23, 2013 7:01 AM

    enoughofthatalready,

    I am fully aware of his behavior on the field. It is his behavior off of the field that I will not accept. You only know about the two public accusations. I also know about several non-public accusations.

  83. ravenator says: Feb 23, 2013 8:56 AM

    Old man rivers, zip it or ill break your hip

  84. scoobies05 says: Feb 23, 2013 9:25 AM

    ray lewis is a football player. my hero is my dad…a man who worked hard f9r years to support his family. stop your arrogance in thinking you know me because you dont. i support ray because i am more in tune to the truth. the legal system you fought to defend decided on this case and ray wasnt involved in the murders. but you know more. the white suit probably had blood on it. ray got scared and probably trashed it. but that doesnt make him a killer. and i am sure tired of you trashing bmore when your fan base supports ben but you overlook that. i know you personally dont like him..your choice of course. but it has to go both ways. i am done arguing this too. as long as you dont bring up ray and trash bmore i wont argue this with you. lets just talk football. be well my friend. see you around

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