The 40 yard dash is great for measuring pure speed. However, it can’t account for the speed of a player during an actual football game.

For instance, Mike Vick ran a 5.33 40 yard dash and look at him now.
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Even ignoring the typo, what is your point here? Mike Vick was pretty dang fast “in actual football game” when he entered the league. Though he has certainly slowed down over the last 12 years, he is still pretty fast “in an actual football game”. Just because old age and injuries have caught up to him and he is no longer a good player doesn’t mean he isn;t fast anymore.

For the record I’m not a Vick fan at all, pretty much the polar opposite, but I am a fan of arguments that make sense.

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You’re only off by a second on that one:

Griffin is the only quarterback other than Michael Vick to run faster than 4.4 at the combine (Vick was clocked at 4.33 seconds), according to ESPN Scouts Inc.’s Steve Muench.

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For instance, Mike Vick ran a 5.33 40 yard dash and look at him now.

Are there people who defy the probabilities? Yes, and of course 99.999999% of all NFL front office staff write-off those outliers on draft day because the people calling the shots have to go with statistical analysis to determine the probability of success for their draftees.

Polian is only giving one of MANY metrics he used when evaluating players. I think he is right, there should be cut-off scores applied to players, depending on the position they play. It is the only way you ensure to increase the probability of drafting a good player.

He isn’t saying 40 times are the end-all, be-all to his analysis. I mean, come one, he isn’t Al Davis!

Trindon Holliday ran a 4.29 and has poor hands at 5′ 5″.

It isn’t all about 40 times.

I’m sure Ozzie will use these to MOVE UP and steal some top talent.
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First off, have you seen this draft class? What top talent are you referring to?
Secondly, losing free agents doesn’t translate directly into compensatory picks, it’s a ratio of losses to gains (with playing time and team importance factored in). Between Jacoby Jones and Paul Kruger, it’s doubtful that Charm City will have any compensatory picks.

You can’t trade compensatory picks. So Ozzie will not have any “extra” picks to use to trade up.

I wanna know out of the last 10 to 15 years who had the top 5 40 times and out of those players who became a star?…
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Interesting question. They don’t pay me enough, so here you go: (06-12)
Stars: Calvin Johnson, Mike Wallace, Chris Johnson; is Darren McFadden a star? (my gut says yes, but my fantasy team says no)
Solid players: CJ Spiller, Tyvon Branch, DHB, DRC, Steroids (excuse me, I have a cold, I was trying to say LaRon Landry)
We’ll see: Josh Robinson, Stephen Hill, Travis Benjamin, Tommy Streeter, Chris “secretly curious” Culliver,
Bummer, dude: Johnny Knox, Jahvid Best
Journeymen: 4
Nobodies: 10, Remember Yamon Figurs? Yeah, he plays for the Edmonton Eskimoes now.
So the breakdown is
Stars and good players: 9
Journeymen and schmoes: 14
Oakland Raiders: 8

Other than having Manning fall into his lap, what has he done?

Are you kidding?
He put together the Buffalo Bills team that went to 4 straight SB’s?
Drafted the right QB in 1998 and not the bust?
Put together the pretty damn good looking Colts team with a SB win?
Ring any bells?

I would love to have Polian back in Buffalo. The reason behind him being let go was dumb. I’m also sure that 31 teams in the NFL would gladly hire him.

Speed is nice but it’s still about the total package.

wow. hear of mike wallace or torrey smith or steve smith? Run a fly route almost every catch.

I’m sure Ozzie will use these to MOVE UP and steal some top talent.
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First off, have you seen this draft class? What top talent are you referring to?
Secondly, losing free agents doesn’t translate directly into compensatory picks, it’s a ratio of losses to gains (with playing time and team importance factored in). Between Jacoby Jones and Paul Kruger, it’s doubtful that Charm City will have any compensatory picks.

They all have their dogma. And as ou know, today’s dogma is tomorrow’s dog crap.

I bet some of you feel so “supah smaht” pointing out examples of guys that run less than stellar 40′s and have turned out to have good careers.
You can ALWAYS find an exception to the rule in all things of life. In general (which overules occasional instances) you do not want a WR that runs a 4.63 40. No way, no how. Most of the time they will not get seperation or generate splash plays. But go ahead and respond to my post by saying “OH YEAH! well so and so ran a 6second 40 and he was good!!”

Yes, I know, before that came Dallas Clark and Bob Sanders, and yes, he also found Mathis in the 5th and Garcon in the sixth. But that doesn’t help my point.