Comments on: Exclusive Flacco franchise tag would reverberate well beyond 2013

By: scoobies05

scoobies05 — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 20:28:23 +0000

other than being a superbowl mvp and never being in any sort of off or on field trouble….yeah. flacco and haynesworth are exactly the same. seriously where do people get this stuff

By: petedutcher

petedutcher — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:57:16 +0000

Joe is going nowhere. Next year the qb being debated will be Josh Freeman, not Rodgers…because there is no doubt Rodgers is worth the money.

Freeman will finally have consistent coaching and a healthy, consistent Offensive Line. He has a 90% rating when the line is consistent. Sullivan will fix the other issues this off season and by this time next year this very same argument will be made concerning Freeman…who ill have just completed a stellar 5th year.

By: jerryjonesmustdie83

jerryjonesmustdie83 — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:59:38 +0000

Let flacco go somewhere else, the ravens can always pick up Shane Falco for cheaper!

By: contract

contract — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:07:42 +0000

The Ravens can avoid all those problems by simply paying the man. Make him the highest paid QB in the NFL. He earned it.

By: causeisaid

causeisaid — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:36:51 +0000

Watch Ozzie work the magic. Ravens gamble and give Joe the “non-exclusive tag” the market will set the price and Joe will accept Balimore’s best offer to stay where he is at. Joe’s family is in NJ, a brief drive from Baltimore and his wife is pregnant with #2. Joe wants to stay and Joe wants to get paid. There is still enough leverage on both sides. Deal gets done before exclusive tag is ever played.

By: pghdc

pghdc — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:29:20 +0000

Flacco is just another Albert Haynesworth

By: scoobies05

scoobies05 — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:13:22 +0000

Flacco is getting paid by the Ravens…probably 100 million dollars. Joe Linta and Joe Flaco have already stated that they dont care how the deal is structured…and it will be structured to be cap friendly for the first 2 years until the cap goes up. The
ravens front office knows what its doing. And next year someone else will come along and get more than Flacco…probably Rodgers. and for all the people who seriously dont think Flacco is good based on his stats….the only stat that counts is wins…and he hwas more wins in his first 5 years then any qb in history…and as many rings as peyton brees and rodgers

By: ravenseattheirownpoop

ravenseattheirownpoop — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 01:40:02 +0000

Ha ha! I love it for Average Joe

By: mmmpierogi

mmmpierogi — Sat, 23 Feb 2013 01:32:23 +0000

pistolpete0903 says: Feb 22, 2013 5:51 PM

Flacco has to prove that he is consistently good to get elite money. Very good, but not yet at Brady or Rodgers level.

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I don’t get the denial among Raven fans re: Flacco — why do people thumbs down comments like the above as if they’re not true? At least respond and explain why it’s incorrect.

Year in and year out, Flacco **is** an above-average (albeit not always the most consistent) quarterback. That is not a bad thing to say — he’s better than a sizable chunk of other guys. That also doesn’t make him one of the top four or five over the period of a decade or more, which is what I would think the term “elite” should refer to — I don’t see how any of that is debatable. I don’t think anyone questions the value of resigning the guy, but that doesn’t mean he merits breaking the bank over.

By: petehimself2112

petehimself2112 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:46:55 +0000

So awesome that a regular dude like Joe can come win a Superbowl and MVP, a guy who played at Delaware. This isn’t Hollywood these aren’t celebrity’s…..this is football, Ravens football. Pay the man he already took us to the promise land.

By: bartlettruss

bartlettruss — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:38:24 +0000

What if they tagged him 9 straight years? Would he be making $3.2 Billion per year? What about for 10 years…

By: furious76

furious76 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:28:27 +0000

Flacco is not worth anywhere near $20 mil a year. Easy choice here. Non-exclusive tag and hope someone gives you two firsts for a QB with 1 good season under his belt and a history of inconsistent play otherwise.

Flacco is not top 10, probably not even top 15, top 10 money is a very bad idea.

By: pistolpete0903

pistolpete0903 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:51:25 +0000

Flacco has to prove that he is consistently good to get elite money. Very good, but not yet at Brady or Rodgers level.
Putting the franchise tag is a no-brainer for B’,more.

By: evrybdyhas1

evrybdyhas1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:49:48 +0000

A. They do the deal or
B. Ravens tag him nonexclusive and wait for either a deal to match or two first round picks.
C. No way the exclusive tag is used since the agent would look for 25million per year.
IMHO ravens can move on with 4 #1s over two years. By the way tyrod taylor was the fastest QB at the combine not colin k and he can run the read option. Just pointing out the ops.

By: ravenscaps48

ravenscaps48 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:20:31 +0000

I love all of these Steelers fans talking mad trash about Joe Flacco. Joe’s on the rise. Ben’s on the decline. Joe’s never missed a start. Ben’s becoming more and more fragile. Joe’s getting more clutch by the year. Ben is becoming Tony Romo of the North. Ben had 3 Touchdown Passes in 3 Super Bowl Appearances. Joe had 3 in one half of a Super Bowl.

The sooner you guys get that through your heads, the sooner you’ll realize that the Ravens have a GREAT QB for YEARS TO COME!

By: tannethrill

tannethrill — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:06:36 +0000

Bring in Elvis Grbac again to replace your SB winning QB, worked the last time…right?

I think there’s a middle ground that Flacco and Baltimore will find. Base numbers should put him in that top 8 QB range with incentives that can make him paid like a top 3.

By: pbastille

pbastille — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:51:27 +0000

Wait, Flacco’s a free agent?

(sarcasm font please)

By: ralphtherealravenfan

ralphtherealravenfan — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:50:53 +0000

A QB goes through the playoffs with 11 TD’s and no picks, tying Joe Montana in the process, and is not a legit Super Bowl quarterback? LOL! O_o If not for Lee Evans, Flacco would have had his team in the Super Bowl in back to back years. If he’s not your cup of tea, fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But don’t dismiss what he did this postseason as lucky or flukey. He balled out. For the third postseason in a row. Period.

By: bandzz

bandzz — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:49:52 +0000

I hear a lot about Joe Flacco being inconsistent. The offense under Cam Cameron has ALWAYS been inconsistent. There is not a single player, not even Ray Rice that has been consistent under Cam. As soon as he was removed Boldin explodes, Joe Flacco becomes a force to be reckoned with. Our running game becomes very solid. Joe has been the epitome of consistent under new OC Caldwell. The Ravens need to sign him asap or his price will drastically increase next year! Congrats Joe you earned it buddy!

By: bigbadal21

bigbadal21 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:47:37 +0000

Ravens will not pay him 20 plus million dollars. That you can take to the bank. If he doesn’t sign they will let the free market put a number on his value. And not a lot of teams will pursue him. 2 first rounders and a big contract? No way.

By: codiablo

codiablo — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:39:41 +0000

He’s not a legit super bowl winning quarterback. He’s an every jerk has his day quarterback. Sign him to the non-exclusive and when the Browns give him a longterm contract, for the Ravens it will be the ultimate kick in the arse…because he will show his true colors with the Browns. Plug and Play…put Alex Smith or Matt Flynn in that offense and you’ll see the same results, if not improvement.

By: ravensallday2012

ravensallday2012 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:36:32 +0000

Not sure y everyone thinks it will ruin the cap. We have the best front office in football. No worries from Baltimore fans

By: ralphtherealravenfan

ralphtherealravenfan — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:34:32 +0000

This is a non-story. Did Suggs leave? Ngata? Lewis? Rice? No. Ozzie got the contract done. Every time. I understand you have to have scintillating headlines for web traffic. But everyone knows he’s not going anywhere. Next topic.

By: joemammy

joemammy — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:31:05 +0000

The best thing the Browns can do is let Baltimore franchise him and keep him. The cap will damage the Ratbirds a whole lot worse than Shurmur’s play-calling ever did…

Go on, Oz…pay the man.

By: godofwine330

godofwine330 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:22:44 +0000

I know that as a player you must look after yourself, but if your salary hamstrings your team so much that they are rendered uncompetitive because of your contract you need to re-evaluate. He needs to work something out between the “hometown discount” and the max, otherwise the team may be bouncing around the 3rd and 4th teams in the division which is bad for everybody. Spending more than 1 year at 3 & 4 is unacceptable for the Ravens, and that is possible if he tries to get $80M over 3 years.

By: st1llerz1

st1llerz1 — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:20:11 +0000

The numbers over time don’t lie…

flaccid lies somewhere between 8 and 12 in the quarterback hierarchy.

The beauty of this whole sitiuation is that the “genius” oz just backed himself into a corner from which there is no escape. Either he pays flaccid WAY more than he’s truly worth or Burt strolls on down to one of these weak franchises with a ton of cap space.

All this over a couple of moonshot Hail Mary’s in the playoffs. He’d better send Rahim Moore a HUGE pile of cash once he signs this contract!

Get your popcorn guys!! As the Nest Burns…

GO STEELERS!

By: mizzanu

mizzanu — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:16:25 +0000

6 for $105…thumbs up for over, thumbs down for under

By: 808raiderinparadise

808raiderinparadise — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:04:39 +0000

Wow.

Flacco was epic in playoffs but man …

this past regular season I was looking at my teams stats (raiders, ugh) and seen Carson Palmer was 29th in QB rating, flacco was 26th ….

You have to be reallllly careful with this flacco contract, they had some tebow miracle stuff in the playoffs at Denver.

By: iamedreed

iamedreed — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:04:22 +0000

I still think its highly unlikely that any team is willing to part with 2 first round picks AND pay him a contract the ravens can’t match

even if Cleveland offered him 30million in year one, he doesn’t have to take it, total value and guaranteed money are more important

By: mikeknaj

mikeknaj — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:59:41 +0000

He’s just not worth that kind of money. He had a great year, no denying. But the only QBs I’d use that kind of cash on are Tom Brady, Petyon Manning, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rogers – and that’s assuming they’re at their prime. Stats aside we all have an eyeball, common sense test. And Flacco doesn’t pass that test – he’s just a bit below it. If the Ravens pay him that they’ll handicap their franchise… and Ozzie has to know that in his heart.