Comments on: A proposed Joe Flacco contract

By: cowboyzshininstar

cowboyzshininstar — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 20:14:17 +0000

Too much $$$ not worth it. Where’s Alex Smith in all this?

By: enoughofthatalready

enoughofthatalready — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:07:34 +0000

Anquan Boldin and Jacoby Jones won the Super Bowl. Having said that, no football player period is worth $26 million for one year.

By: ravenseattheirownpoop

ravenseattheirownpoop — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:31:43 +0000

Somewhere Aaron Rodgers is smiling

By: redsoxu571

redsoxu571 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:13:03 +0000

Public Service Announcement:
If you think Flacco is elite, I can respect your opinion. If you think he is not elite, I can respect that as well.

But for the love of God, can people please stop making the argument that “Joe Flacco wins, so there is no way around it; Flacco is elite”.

The name on the jersey is the “Baltimore Ravens”, not the “Baltimore Flaccos” (though perhaps that will change as part of this contract?). This isn’t boxing; it’s a team sport. A QB can lose you games – a QB can win you games – a QB can be elite but not win if his team completely fails him – a QB can be mediocre, but win due to the play of his teammates. We all know how important a QB is, but he doesn’t single-handedly win or lose games.

If you want to say the Ravens won because of Flacco, go ahead and do so. But just because Flacco has won games proves very little about how good he is, as this is a team sport. “Wins” has little place in a discussion of individual value…if you think winning games means that “Flacco is elite, case closed”, please go back to school and come back here after taking a logic class or two. Thank you.

By: redsoxu571

redsoxu571 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:03:17 +0000

I think the funniest thing about all this is that everyone knows Flacco isn’t among the top QBs in the NFL, and yet we’re all resigned to the fact that he will sign a monster contract.

Then again, there are 31 other teams out there that are rooting for Flacco to sign for more than he is worth, so it’s no wonder people are helping urge the Ravens to take the plunge.

By: melikefootball

melikefootball — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:23:07 +0000

When does all these contracts of this value start crippling the game. Has nothing to do with Flacco but all the me me me in the NFL and all this money for players when does it finally do in the game.

By: joeflaccoownsyoulosers

joeflaccoownsyoulosers — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:08:55 +0000

You can hate all you want, but 11 TD’s 0 interceptions in the playoffs, and a Superbowl MVP is elite. Especially considering the teams he had to face to do it. Broncos and 49er’s are elite defenses. He completely destroyed the Patriots, and schooled the Colts. Does he need to improve in the regular season? yes, but he definitely deserves to get paid. Hate on haters! Superbowl champs!

By: drulz29

drulz29 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:17:25 +0000

I hope they do this deal, it’ll cripple that team financially for years to come..

By: bengalskuta82

bengalskuta82 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:45:11 +0000

Hmmm. Im not sure if the ravens really want to pay that kind of money.remember this is the qb that just only played well in just three playoff games that include the SB. During the regular season he was just the same inconsistent Flacco..I think the ravens org is in a tough place right now. Maybe they should turn to the fans to decide..after all its the fans that contribute big to paying these overpaid athletes. Àsk them!

By: jimmyj049

jimmyj049 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:45:05 +0000

He is a good/average QB.. He is in the 10-15 rated qbs in the NFL. He had below average stats all year and 4 great games in playoffs. If they pay him 20 million a year he won’t make the playoffs again since they wont be able to pay people to get him to the playoffs. Ravents wont be back next year.

By: ampatsisahypocrite

ampatsisahypocrite — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:43:11 +0000

I love how the fans posting here understand the simple concept that Flacco just isn’t elite, and now the Ravens will be grossly overpaying him thanks to what guys like Jones, Boldin and Rice have done (namely, carried him). And yet the supposed “pros” who run things will be rushing to pay this guy top dollar. Pretty hilarious when you look at it.

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:36:36 +0000

I hope he gets $20 mil per year because he’s worth about $9 mil.

A QB who doesn’t lose the game for you isn’t the same as a QB who wins the game for you.

By: andthehomeofthejets

andthehomeofthejets — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:23:13 +0000

Quarterbacks I rather have then flacco

Brady – 5 Super Bowl appereances
Bree’s -Super Bowl win, breaking every record
Peyton – 2 Super Bowl appereances
Big Ben – 2 Super Bowl wins
Eli – 2 Super Bowl wins one as a 6th seed. As a jets fan and realist this guy is the real deal. Granted he sucked the first few years of his career, this guy now makes any receivers he has good.
Aaron Rodgers – 1 Super Bowl win and unblievable.

These are the top 6 quaterbacks in the Leauge. Flacco should no way be paid this high. Flacco has had the best defense in the Leauge since he became there quaterback. This is similar to a mark Sanchez situation. The defense made the team when the jets made it to 2 AFC championships. I don’t even know if this guy would be in my top 10 qbs if I started a franchise. He did win the big one so there is something to be said for that. I am just not convinced maybe ill be proven wrong

By: carpi2

carpi2 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 04:14:18 +0000

I used to be a Flacco hater. However, Flacco has had a good amount of success toward the later half of the season, in through the playoffs. That success coincided with a change in offensive coordinators.

Is Flacco worth the biggest contract in the league? Probably not; but he has shown to be a dangerous QB, when in a system that allows him to use his big arm. Flacco has shown in a small sample that he is one of the better QB’s in the league. And, teams need to value QB’s that can win games and put them in the position to win the Super Bowl. In that respect, Flacco would demand a good sized contract.

By: contract

contract — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 03:43:15 +0000

“Archie Manning was the best QB I ever saw. Unfortunately he spent most of his time looking up at the sky because the Saints did not have the O line or the receivers to keep him upright.”

dcapettini: So how did you determine that he was the best QB you saw if he spent most of the time on his back?

By: wisewoo

wisewoo — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 03:42:06 +0000

Only two QB’s in the entire NFL have been to the playoffs the past 5 consecutive years.

Brady and Flacco.

Only one of those two has won a Superbowl in the past 5 years.

There is no way around it. Flacco is elite. He doesn’t put up gaudy numbers. But he wins. Wins can make you elite.
Wins = Money from fans

Pay him. Or he’ll be bringing in that money for some other team.

By: stew48

stew48 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 03:03:02 +0000

Having read the comments, I am surprisingly in agreement with most that Flacco is not a top 5 and maybe can squeeze in top 10. With the win, he is certainly entitled to a big contract, but not to be paid as #1. (or #2). As a Steeler fan, I sure hope they give him all that he wants and more. It will be beneficial to the other North teams. Those who complain about the NFL players salaries have obviously never been close to taking the punishment they do, let alone having their skills. Now if you want to discuss entertainment pay levels, I will be right there about the absurdity.

By: 1bucfan813

1bucfan813 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 02:31:55 +0000

Dear Ravens,

Do not give an average QB Top $$. They guy is not even a top 10 Qb. The Ravens won the Super Bowl because they played like a team that was hungry to win. Flacco is not the face of the franchise. I would put Rg3, Andrew Luck, Or Rusell Wilson ahead of Flacco. I even had Flacco on my fantasy league and he was my back up Qb. They guy is TOO inconsistent, and his #s are almost Rothlisberger like. Who has more rings than Flacco, and you don’t hear him saying I want to be the leagues highest paid QB.

By: dcapettini

dcapettini — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 02:28:15 +0000

Archie Manning was the best QB I ever saw. Unfortunately he spent most of his time looking up at the sky because the Saints did not have the O line or the receivers to keep him upright. No one thinks that the Ravens will be able to get a QB as good as Joe. This franchise especially knows how hard it can be to get stability and production out of that position. The question is, are you willing to gut out the team of playmakers inorder to keep Flacco? Peyton Manning is as elite as they come and he has one Lombardi. John Elway went to the Bowl 5 times and succeeded only on the 4th and 5th tries. Defense beat Denver, New England and SF. Each of them had a chance to win, despite Flacco’s heroics. One player can’t be worth more than the team, even if he completed 11 TD passes without a pick.

Take the draft picks and start rebuilding now.

By: purpleattack

purpleattack — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:22:50 +0000

It really blows my mind how little many fans (and media to be honest) understand about the actual game. QBs are not cars! You’re taking a casual Saturday stroll down dealerships avenue. Yes maybe you think a Civic is worth a grand over a Corolla, you go in and you buy, you feel satisfied that you paid exactly what you wanted for what you wanted. You might think that Flacco deserves X but guess what, he’s going to paid Y. Because there is no d*mn dealership next door for QBs. There are a handful of top shelf QBs and the Ravens don’t have a possibility of getting them because they are already owned by other teams. So in order to win (which they did, are people forgetting this already?) you have to get the best damn QB you can to compete out of WHAT IS AVAILABLE. No one gives a crap if you think in a perfect world he is worth 2 million less per year, because if you don’t pay him what he wants you’re stuck with Kyle Boller.

Get over it people, Flacco is most definitely a Franchise QB, and he’s going to get paid whatever the heck he desires because there is simply no alternative out there. The guy has all the leverage int he world.

By: crawfish2011

crawfish2011 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:18:37 +0000

The Ravens have no choice but to pay Flacco. Flacco gambled on himself and won.

By: reed20fence

reed20fence — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:18:24 +0000

Also let’s get some perspective here. This will be the largest contract signing in the Ravens short history. Larger than Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Ogden, Suggs or Yanda. And 3 of those guys are first ballot Hall of Famers. Is Joe?

By: reed20fence

reed20fence — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:11:40 +0000

The kid has got his ring and still has almost a decade of football left to play.

Believe me when I tell you this – money isn’t everything, it’s the ONLY thing that matters at this stage. And Linta is gonna leech every penny from the coffers he can.

By: jeffml

jeffml — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:07:16 +0000

I just farted and Florio came out

By: clownsfan

clownsfan — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 01:05:58 +0000

Now Florio is drafting contracts? Hey Mike….why not work in your radio presence? Heard you filling in on the DP Show this week. You stunk.

By: ravenmuscle

ravenmuscle — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:49:09 +0000

I just farted and the Pittsburgh Steelers came out.

By: bartlettruss

bartlettruss — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:32:14 +0000

I understand why Flacco wants this kind of money. I won’t understand if Newsome pays it.

By: braven4evr

braven4evr — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:24:16 +0000

As a Ravens fan I am still skeptical of Flacco. I must say that post Cameron he has played better ala Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers. If he can be more consistent during the regular season he may be worth the money. Then again give him all the money he wants and hamstring the rest of the team and it won’t matter who the OC is calling the plays.

By: soobster

soobster — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:10:05 +0000

Does Flacco provide stability at the most crucial position in the game at age 27 for the next 5-7 years? If the answer to that question is yes, then pay the man.

Football contracts are not baseball contracts. Everyone is acting like players can’t be cut 3-4 years into a deal if they don’t renegotiate.

Also, Brees was not elite in San Diego. He was above average. If he was elite during his tenure in SD they wouldn’t have drafted Phillip Rivers to take over 2 years before Brees left.

By: paul82461

paul82461 — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 00:02:52 +0000

Big mistake if they give him this, it will set the franchise back for years. So go ahead and sign him so you cant afford anyone else.