Comments on: Chiefs decision to trade for Smith says plenty about their options http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Sat, 25 May 2013 00:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: nelly837 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2360486 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:57:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2360486 Funny most of these posters on here bashing Andy Reid over the Alex Smith trade are Philly fans LMAO! Hey Philly fans get over it the Walrus isn’t your coach anymore so quit your hating it just makes you look like the jerks everybody knows that Philly fans are. You guys even boo Santa Claus maybe that’s why you are all so pissed off cause Santa doesn’t come to Philly anymore.

]]> By: odawg31 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2359528 Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:07:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2359528 If one QB in this draft turns out to be better than Alex Smith which is 95% VERY likely to happen, the Chiefs dropped the ball again in regards to getting a franchise QB. Only the most important position in sports.

I guess their is no need to get a franchise QB, since game managers always end up holding the lombardy trophy in the end. Last I checked it was 10 yrs ago Bucs over Raiders.

Chiefs FO needs to wake up, and take a look at the successful teams have, that we dont. QB!

]]> By: phillythatswho http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2359035 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:07:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2359035 Cost KC so much

]]> By: phillythatswho http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2359031 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:06:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2359031 I’m shocked that Alex Smith KC so much. A 4th rd pick should have been enough for an avg nfl qb.

]]> By: SparkyGump http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2359016 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:59:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2359016 They’d better shore up their O-line.

]]> By: Stiller43 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2359008 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:54:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2359008 Raiderlyfe,

Your stats show he only throws for 1 TD a game. Even if he has a low INT rate, thats like 16 TDs and 4 INTs a season… That only works when your defense is as good as san frans.

]]> By: thestrategyexpert http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358971 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:36:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358971 It also tells us that the Chiefs aren’t prone to learning from past mistakes. They just overpaid egregiously to get Cassel, and now they have compounded their QB liabilities by overpaying for another. This is a disturbing trade.

]]> By: dolphan23 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358958 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:35:08 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358958 This is the second time a former 49er QB went to KC. Good for Alex! Best of luck #11!!

]]> By: steelerben http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358937 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:30:00 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358937 Just keep in mind that Roethlesberger, Flacco, and Brady were all viewed as game managers at one point. Smith was able to grow as a quarterback with some consistency in the coaching and when the team built around him didn’t ask him to win on his own. He was viewed as a first overall talent for a reason.

This kid could be ready to break out. Baldwin is going to be a great target with his route running polished. Moeaki should be 100% and back to being a dynamic TE. Jamaal Charles and Dexter McCluster in the screen game can be deadly.

The number one thing Smith is going to give you that this team desperately needs is a reduction in turnovers.

]]> By: andthehomeofthejets http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358930 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:26:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358930 I am very curious how this will turn out. Matt Cassel came from a team he took to the playoff as well. The patriots and the 49ner’s were/are built for the now and have all the pieces in place, when these guys were there. KC does not.

I agree with the move minus the conditional pick. they had to do something with a somewhat proven quaterback. The only way this works if they trade there #1 pick and try to get 2 Picks out of it. They need to draft 2 mature players that can come in right off the bat and play. Plus add a few veterans through free agency. There is a lot out there. If this all goes to plan. they can maybe make some noise within the next couple of years.

This is a tough draft. to go out on a limb and place trust/invest time in one of these rookie Quaterbacks is not something you wanna do after trying to rebuild for so many years. This was the right move. start fresh. Now they have to make sure they execute properly.

]]> By: denverwally http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358928 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:26:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358928 Smith took SF to the NFC championship 2 years ago, and they would have made it to the Super Bowl if not for some horrible special teams play (2 fumbles). He was the highest rated QB in the league last year for the first half of the season before Harbaugh made the outragous (and proven correct) move of replacing him with Kaepernick. This is a huge upgrade for the Chiefs, and I think makes them at least a wild card team if they can hang on to Bowe or replace him with a similar WR. Giving up a 2nd round pick for a proven starting QB is a great move by KC. In this league, you go NOWHERE without a good QB.
Disclaimer: I am not a Chiefs fan, but I do respect the organization.

]]> By: u4iadman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358926 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:25:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358926 I would have drafted 2 QB’s this year and picked up Orton as the interim solution, see what you get out of the rookie QB’s. Wilson was 3rd round and started. You have a chance in repeating that with 2 new QB’s if chosen wisely.
But to think Alex (love his professionalism) will take you to the superbowl, and at his pricetag, come on. Draft some rookies and throw the dice.

]]> By: eagleswin http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358924 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:25:05 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358924 4evrnyt says:
Feb 27, 2013 4:14 PM
Couldn’t it also mean that they screwed up and gave away too much for an average QB?

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Matt Cassell 2.0. Smith’s job wasn’t to be the difference maker in winning games. His job was to not be the reason for losing them.

Kaepernick was made the starting QB because he can be a difference maker when they needed the QB to be a difference maker.

Unless Reid can trade for the rest of the 49ers roster so that Smith can win doing check downs and handoffs this was a major miscalculation (ala Cassell).

]]> By: raiderlyfe510 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358920 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:23:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358920 See articles like this is why the masses think Alex Smith isn’t good. He’s just dismissed as the 49ers #2 QB.

Once again Alex Smith is a good QB who is 35-25-1 in his last 61 starts
With a 62 – 22 TD/Int ratio…..who also completed 25 out his last 27 passes thrown.

Now this isn’t a hall of fame QB like Elway or Manning that will compensate for bad coaching and roster deficiencies and win games. He’s a good QB that with good coaching and a solid roster will win games….LIKE RICH GANNON.

Chiefs… Your coaches and front office got a bargain, and benefited from other QB needy teams’ lack of vision.

]]> By: Stiller43 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358919 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:23:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358919 “Fourth, and finally, it means that the Chiefs not only decided that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their first-round pick but also that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their second-round pick.”

No, it means that no incoming rookie is worth their 1st round pick, and that no *ROOKIE LIKELY TO BE AVAILABLE* when they pick in the 2nd round is worth it.

In sure they’d take geno smith or barkley with their 2nd pick, but they understand they’ll be gone somewhere in the first round, and thus they will be unable to use their 2nd rounder on them.

]]> By: packattack1967 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358897 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:15:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358897 1/3 of draft pics in the first 2 rounds are busts, 1/3 are serviceable. Almost half the NFL starts every year not knowing who their starting QB is. Smith could easily be a top 10 QB for years to come. Nailing down that scenario with a second rounder would be an easy call for me. Besides, drop back QBs are the future as they always have been. If the NFL thinks I want to watch a tattooed punk with bad facial hair running around after broken plays, they have another thing coming.

]]> By: 4evrnyt http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358891 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:14:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358891 Couldn’t it also mean that they screwed up and gave away too much for an average QB?

]]> By: harrisonhits2 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358888 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:13:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358888 When Smith has well coached players that have a decent amount of talent around him he does pretty well.

When he has poorly coached and/or lousy talent around him he’s like most other QBs and has a lot of trouble.

I also think that in SF they never really trusted him enough to take the chains off. Reid’s massively pass happy offense will give him a chance to show what he’s really capable of.

]]> By: deke952 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358885 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:13:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358885 Interesting now that apparently, neither Coach (and former Packer OC) Joe Philbin nor GM (and former Packer personnel guy) John Dorsey had much interest in former Packer Matt Flynn. Seahawks are watching Flynn’s value plummet.

]]> By: ccjcsr http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358883 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:13:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358883 Highway robbery (2) second’s for him, a guy that was on his last stint in the NFL, a few yrs ago they were claiming he was a bust..I guess another mans trash is another mans treasure!

]]> By: joecool16280 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358878 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:12:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358878 andrejohnsonforpresident says:
Feb 27, 2013 3:50 PM
I wonder if Joe Montana has any advice for this guy. Or maybe he’s calling him a poser and saying that he was the original 49er QB to be traded to the cheifs.

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Steve DeBerg was the original ex-49er QB to join the Chiefs.

I don’t think adults use the word “poser” by the way there, champ.

]]> By: jbaxt http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358877 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:12:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358877 Who was he throwing to in SF? And for the cat downgrading the trade, I could take you seriously IF you could spell Chiefs correctly. Smith will be the best QB in the AFC west in less than 25 months. Not bad for a 2nd round pick IMO.

]]> By: killitandeatit http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358871 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:11:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358871 I don’t hate to tell you, I told you so. The niners have received what seemed to be obvious compensation for Alex Smith and that is an early second round selection. This second round pick is as close to being in the first round you can get. This is a good deal for both organizations and Alex can continue being a starter. Looking forward to draft day.

]]> By: 88ibis http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358867 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:09:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358867 It also means a few teams are now calling Seattle to talk about Matt Flynn. The 49ers have established the price, and with Smith off the market the price might be a little higher.

]]> By: We'reFineThere http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358862 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:08:14 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358862 “but also that no incoming rookie quarterback justifies selection with their second-round pick”

Not necessarily. It just means they would rather have Alex Smith now rather than hope the right guy (Geno Smith, Barkley, etc) falls far enough for them to get with 34 and change.

]]> By: jetstizzi85 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358855 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:07:31 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358855 Who is he throwing to?

]]> By: lionsdraftguy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358853 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:06:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358853 I’ve been saying Luke Joeckel will be the #1 pick for months now. Looks like ill nail it again on another mock.

]]> By: 69firebird http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358850 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:06:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358850 HAHAHA!! Chiefs are desperate! Chiefs and Faiders will be fighting for last place in the division again. Andy Reid ain’t no Jim harbaugh and will never get as much out of Alex smith

]]> By: pleasantsurpriselefty http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358831 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:59:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358831 Seems to me that Smith is an OK QB with a good team. Can KC put one around him? Quickly? Didn’t think so.

]]> By: cardiovascularendurance http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-decision-to-trade-for-smith-says-plenty-about-their-options/#comment-2358824 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:57:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774050#comment-2358824 That fourth point is flawed logic. They could view Geno Smith (or maybe one of the other rookie QBs) as worthy of a 2nd rounder, but think (and probably be right) that he won’t be there when they get to pick again. They’d rather have Joeckel and Smith than Joeckel, someone else, and Cassell.

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