Comments on: Report: Chiefs giving up a 2013 second and change for Alex Smith http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Fri, 24 May 2013 21:48:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: damcmp http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2369545 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:54:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2369545 Andy Reid had an incredible run of luck…..the last 4 yrs proved he was not as smart as he thought…..now KC is going to pay for it…

]]> By: themackstrong http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2365881 Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:49:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2365881 Reid is getting his own move pulled on him. No way San Fran doesn’t cut Alex with that salary and their struggle with the cap. As a division rival fan – I could care less about 49er getting draft picks in baby Jimmy’s era. Their first round WR couldn’t beat out bust Ginn. 2nd round finally started playing before the playoffs and fumbles the ball like a true rookie. McCloughan seems to be the missing piece for the draft decline and I forgot what team he works for now :]

]]> By: thegame2love http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2359004 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:54:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2359004 Maybe there are using the twisted logic that if RG3 is worth three 1st Rd and one 2nd Rd pick then Alex Smith is worth half of that. In any event, Reid has been taken to the cleaners.

At best I would have offered a 4th rounder take it or leave it.

]]> By: 13arod http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358838 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:01:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358838 The cheifs at 6 pro bowles and they lost because they just didn’t have a good quarterback

]]> By: pillowporkers http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358806 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:54:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358806 I do have to say I love the 49ers fans who just got 2 2nd round picks for Alex Smith and then so kindly offer up only 1 for Revis or Harvin. Dream on! If Alex Smith is worth 2 2nd rounders, you will be needing to pony up more than 1 2nd round pick for either of those top players at their respective positions. Even with a 1,2,5 for Revis or Harvin (Revis is worth more picks, but Jets are more desperate to trade him it seems in the media so I value them equally) is a steal for the 49ers. You’d still have 12 picks and 8 next year, plus getting a premier player at a position of need. Not to mention I think both the Vikes or Jets would make the deal for that amount of picks.

]]> By: bobhk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358738 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:32:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358738 How many times does it have to be said that the niners good drafts prior to Harbaugh’s arrival were not due to Singletary and Nolan.

It’s laughable to even put Singletary’s name in there. The dude was thrown into head coaching situation let alone be the GM.

The drafts were made by McCloughan and Baalke.
One side note: Baalke (and others) wanted Dalton, Harbaugh wanted Kaepernick. I think either one would have worked out great.

]]> By: aces79 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358689 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:19:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358689 “Revis” Too much money to be tied up in one guy hes great DB but your taking a chance with the “ACL”

]]> By: raiderlyfe510 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358644 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:07:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358644 All this Alex Smith bashing just shows me how weak minded society is. It’s because the pundits say Alex Smith is a bad QB. Pundits who don’t watch west coast teams play or watch film. The weak minded sheep just accepts it as truth.

The fact is Alex Smith is a good QB who is 35-25-1 in his last 61 starts
With a 62 – 22 TD/Int ratio…..a 2nd round pick is a coup for the Chiefs and their fans should be glad that Andy Reid is capable of forming an original opinion or evaluation of a prospect outside of the normal or popular thinking. It’s how Big Al turned the Raiders into a powerhouse back in the days.

]]> By: zzr600guy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358619 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:01:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358619 Wow the chiefs got owned in that deal. Andy Reid is an idiot for giving up a 2nd for Smith. The Chiefs should have only sent them a 4th, maybe a 3rd. but they also threw in a tentative 2014 pick…..stupid.

]]> By: goldrush36 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358586 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:54:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358586 @djjerrynice… so Kaepernick, Hunter, James, Culliver, and Miller were all top 10 picks now? Because all of them are very solid. None of them were 1st rd picks let alone top 10. Jenkins didn’t play because he really wasn’t needed anyway. Neither did James until late in the year and he has shown he can play. I understand the blind ignorance and hate though

]]> By: mjkelly77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358577 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:52:43 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358577 Wow. The whiner is smiling in the photo. It must have been shot right after he took his meds.

]]> By: holdthebeans http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358540 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:43:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358540 This is a win win trade. SF gets good value and KC gets a QB. Not like any of the crop coming out are ready to start and Smith was the best available out there. He will do fine under Reid. SF has no backup now and with Kap running around don’t think teams won’t be going after these running QB’s next year. They will be in the market for one of those QB’s in the draft to come in and groom for sure.

KC still has the top pick and will look to move down. Heck with San Fran sitting on 15 picks they may just trade with them again. Justin Smith aint getting any younger and they could use a Star ( Leutele) on that dline. His heart checks out and his pro day is good that very well could happen.

]]> By: djstangcougar http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358523 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:39:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358523 I almost laughed when I read this.

]]> By: bozak77 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358491 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:30:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358491 @djjerrynice…its no doubt that the core of team is from Nolan & Singletary, however, wat about A. Smith who wasnt in anyones top 10 in any mock draft…Kaep, Culliver, Hunter, & Miller…all major contributers…I’d grade that draft an easy A for Harbaugh & Balke…

]]> By: tdk24 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358487 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:29:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358487 If the 9ers were so good, they wouldn’t have lost the Superbowl!

]]> By: michael092468 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358466 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:26:10 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358466 Hmmm, if everything that is being said about Smith is true (how awful he is) and Kansas City goes 2-14 again, then can we say hello Mr. Clowney. Maybe it’s a tactic to get the number 1 pick next year and draft that helmet buster from South Carolina. Wonder if any of the other GMs in the room see that as a possibility.

]]> By: deelron http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358463 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:25:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358463 ” Harbaugh and Baalke have shown no real ability to draft well outside of top ten picks.”

Except for that Kaepernick guy, or that Culliver guy, or that Kendall Hunter guy, or that Bruce Millar guy.

]]> By: pigskinrube http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358459 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:24:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358459 Revis would be great to have, but wouldn’t they benefit from trading for Percy?

Moss is old, Jenkins is toeing the bust line, Ginn is/was always will be a bust…

Besides if Harbaugh wants to put his touch on the team, he should target some offense. Harvin/Crabtree I think would do it.

I’d think the 1st pick in the second round for MN would do it..

]]> By: screenpass http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358440 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:21:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358440 This is EXACTLY what the Chiefs did a few years ago with Matt Cassell.

Over pay for an average quarterback based on a small sample size of real success that only came once that quarterback was part of a Roster/Organization at the top of the league talent wise, running a system expertly designed to minimize his impact on the game.

Why do the Chiefs (again) believe that this same success will somehow carry over when you put this quarterback in a situation where the talent around him is no where near what it was with the team that benched him?

New Regime/Same Results

]]> By: thestrategyexpert http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358429 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:19:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358429 Another sad day for another sad team making another sad decision. And the rich get richer at the expense of the weak.

]]> By: jlv3gem http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358417 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:14:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358417 Paid a little more than I expected but I think it’s a good deal for KC.

Smith should fit right in and if they bring Bowe back in along with Charles and Baldwin, they should make a wild card run

Ravens all day.

]]> By: kenudo http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358403 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:12:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358403 I’d rather just spend that first on a guy who can be legit in Geno than two seconds on a retread game manager in Smith. In that case you’d still be able to pick up a good DE or CB or OL early in the second. Now they get one really good LT and a decent QB and miss out on the opportunity to add another good supporting player in 2014.

]]> By: ckinthekc99 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358391 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:07:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358391 2 points i wanna make. 1-this team is a 2-14team! 2-now when then they are terrible next year, they won’t be able to draft a good qb then either. If I’m a Chiefs fan I’m so ticked off!

]]> By: supremecomander http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358390 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:06:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358390 I would rather give up a 3rd for Matt Flynn or Nick Foles. But of those guys have more upside than ole Game Manager Alex. Two 2′s is way too rich for a QB that has peaked.

]]> By: bobhk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358382 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:05:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358382 djjerrynice says:
Feb 27, 2013 12:26 PM
I love how everyone raves about the 9ers 14 picks in this draft…The entire team was built off Singletary and Nolan (surprisingly), and Harbaugh and Baalke have shown no real ability to draft well outside of top ten picks.

How often to first round WR’s never see the field their rookie years? When a 40 year old Randy Moss can overtake a 22 year old 1st rounder, you’re in trouble.
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You are very ignorant at best. The picks that you are talking about were made by Baalke and McLoughan not Singletary and Nolan.

2011 Picks:
1. Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri
2. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada
3. Chris Culliver, CB, South Carolina
4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State
5. Daniel Kilgore, OL, Appalachian State
6. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC
7. Colin Jones, S, TCU
8. Bruce Miller, DL/FB, Central Florida

Yep, terrible picks. 3 out of 8 are starters and 3 are pretty important backups. Yep, they suck or you’re clueless.
Jury is out on 2012 picks but this team is deep and players mostly don’t make it onto the field. Jenkins may be a bust but you have to give him more than one season.

]]> By: dvdman123 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358369 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:03:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358369 Kaepernick better be the real deal for Niner fans sake because they don’t have anyone behind him now. I know the guy had a great year but let’s see if he can repeat it through a full 16 game schedule and when there is no pressure behind him.

]]> By: JackAcid http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358364 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:01:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358364 Chiefs paid for what Smith did in 2011 and last year when healthy. I am skeptical that Alex will flourish outside of Harbaugh, BUT….

I think Andy Reid is a capable QB coach and I think Alex is best suited for a west coast offense.

Could be a good marriage, but I think KC will still be looking for a QB in 2-3 years.

]]> By: eatitfanboy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358346 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:58:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358346 Instead of commenting on the deal, I have to ask one question:

Who leaked this and why? They can’t do this deal for nearly two weeks. It certainly doesn’t behoove the Chiefs to let the rest of the world know what they are offering for Smith.

So it almost has to be the Niners leaking the terms. And why would they do that unless they were hoping some desperate team will offer more?

So, um, yeah, I would hardly consider this to be the end of the story.

]]> By: briank1ne http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358335 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:55:38 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358335 good luck alex. im a big fan of yours. I wish you the best and I will be rooting for you.

Sincerely,
Niners Faithful.

]]> By: kw27p http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/27/chiefs-giving-up-a-2013-second-and-change-for-alex-smith/#comment-2358321 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:50:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1774019#comment-2358321 Elvis grbac part 2…

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