As for the fumbles…he has 87 total, not 84, and he’s only lost 39 of those. Now, let’s talk hypothetically. I’d say, considering how much he ran early in his career and he much hes gotten hit and sacked over the last 2-3 years, its plausible that he gets hit an average of 8-9 times a game, and that’s probably being extremely conservative. He’s played in 121 regular season games and 6 playoff games(not 5 as you stated). So at 8-9 hits per game times 126(I’m taking one off because the disputed playoff game he was only in for 3 plays, though he did throw a touchdown) is 1,008-1,134 hits. My response was to someone who was talking turnovers not potential turnovers so were not talking fumbles but fumbles lost, or as YOU said, “losing the ball”. That number is 39. So you think losing the ball 39 times out of 1,000+ is considered a habit??? Its 3.4 – 3.9% of the time he’s been hit. So your assertion that its a habit is absurd. Btw, according to the numbers, he’s been having his best years passing as an Eagle.

Now all 84 fumbles weren’t lost but the fact remains he has 30 more ints/fumbles than scores.

He is also a lifetime 2-3 in post season with a 1 td to 2 turnover ratio in his only Eagle postseason game.

He is mediocre at best career wise, yes he’s had a few great individual games but is has always been inconsistent & inaccurate with a habit of losing the ball when hit.

Just 3 seasons ago: he completed 62.6% of his passes for 3,000+ yards, 21 TDs, 6 INTs, 100.2 QBR, 676 rushing yards, 9 rushing TDs, ProBowl QB that year, NFL Comeback Player of the Year, Bert Bell Award winner, 2 time NFC Player of the Week, first player in NFL history to throw for 3 tds and run for 2 tds in a single half(game jersey is in the HoF).

So how was he able to do that if he can’t read defenses and is a turnover machine? How come he was so successful in ’10-’11 but not ’11-’12 and ’12-’13? Why is he still a member of the Eagles organization and Andy Reid isn’t? Could it be that the answer to all 3 of those questions is Andy Reid? Could it be that our inept coaching staffs inability to adapt to injuries and opposing team strategies is the real reason our ENTIRE team looked pathetic and overrated? I guess its all Vick’s fault and he’s so bad that he made every single player on our team horrible and made the coaches look so bad they were all fired.

Here’s some more FACTS for you all: Vick’s best year, Andy/Marty called 561 passes and 428 rushes. Not a very good pass/run ratio but indicative of the coaching philosophy. Last year, the O-line was DECIMATED by injury so obviously Andy/Marty would adjust their play calling accordingly, right? HA! Yeah right! It got worse! With the equivalent of a D-II offensive line and, when Foles was in, a rookie QB, Andy/Marty called 618 passes and 413 runs! The year prior, they called 450 runs and McCoy led the NFL in rushing. With the injuries to the O-line, they should have called 500+ runs but they proved they do not have the ability to properly analyze their own team and make adjustments. That’s why they were all fired and Vick is still here.

He can get it done when his line doesn’t get destroyed by injuries, which is what happened the last 2 years. That amount of injuries would ruin ANY QB in the league. It is completely preposterous to assert that Vick should have been able to overcome that by himself, not to mention while being handicapped by a predictable, backwards offensive scheme. But just keep talking, you’re all proving why none of you have a job in the NFL: you can’t even make the easiest of observations.

Oh, and as for the guy who said he has 1 TD per turnover…I’d like to know what kind of math you’re using because he has 163 career TDs and 120 turnovers. That’s a +43. Nowhere near 1:1.

Vick is long past that Redskin game. It was the highlight of his career & a one time phenomenon.

Vick is the guy that turns the ball over at an alarming rate. He is 2-3 when it counts (in the playoffs) & is a career disappointment. Chip Kelly, Gene Kelly or Jim Kelly, none of them is making Vick any good. And it’s time to stop blaming play calling, o-lines & as you put it “predictable long routes that need time to get open”. QBs need to adjust when things are going badly, that takes smarts & there is where Vick woefully comes up short.

I love the way things are falling into place in Philly with Kelly and Vick running the Oregon offense. Sincerely, NFC East defenses

cowboy fan right? and your dishing out the real, correct? check kiffins record against kelly or any run read option systems. he didnt pan out to well. you should worried more about is your boy romo. hes looking more like mcnabb aka mcchoke then eli. and this is coming from an eagles fan.

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honestly, when was the last time the cowboys actually had a good defense. 90′s? thats over a decade now. washington had better defenses then you guys since your glory days of the 90′s. but i give you repect on one thing. demarcus ware is a beast.

Does anyone believe that even if Michael tightens up his play and wins the starting job that he can sustain the effort for 16 games? How many years does he need in order to prove himself?

LeSean, Michael had his chance and, evidently, he’s been unable to adjust his play to prevent the offensive failures that we’ve seen, season after season and game after game. Time for change.

By his own hand, he’s going to get another concussion.

I really thought we were done with this in Philly when Reid named Foles the starter over a “healthy” Vick.

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Sounds like the same questions every year about Vick. It’s amazing that every year the players support him even while he fails. The guy is going on 33 and has yet to “prove himself”. It’s been going on 12 years that GMs/fans/players have been waiting for Vick to “prove himself” as a QB.

Jamarcus Russell has to be wondering where all the love is for him. He is a 1st round QB with alot less mileage and just as much to prove.

oops, a typo- “LeSean McCoy: I think Vick is the starting runningback”

Solid logic, If he becomes a better QB, he will be a better QB

Has there been another QB in modern history that has disappointed as much as MV7 & continues to get chance after chance?

It’s always the system, the play calling, the offensive line, the lack of defensive talent or Haley’s Comet that has held Mike Vick back. It’s never Michael Vick.

Can’t believe the guy still has a job in Philly.