Comments on: Ultimately, Ravens got Flacco for seven years, $127.3 million

By: ravenswillalwaysbeourbitch

ravenswillalwaysbeourbitch — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 16:20:03 +0000

The Ratbirds without the felon and Reed will be the biggest joke ever. Crackhoe is a joke. The only reason why he looked that good is because of Bolden. The fans are even worse, if that was not the case the Colts would still be there. The Clowns would be a Super Bowl champions. So get ready for some reality….. A 500% ball club……weak up

By: ppdoc13

ppdoc13 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:14:20 +0000

more wins than any QB with 5 years experience in the league. this last playoff set 11 TD and 0 INTs. A total 9-4 playoff record which is light years better than peyton manning. has not missed a game in 5 years of starting. is he the best in the league. probably not. but that is the way contracts go. Matt Ice Ryan will get a better contract than Joe and likely will not have won a SB let along a SB MVP, Personally, I don’t think Ryan holds Joes jock, but you can bet that his contract will be better because that is the way it is.

By: scoobies05

scoobies05 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:32:49 +0000

and since brady started getting all of his big deals how many super bowls has he won. brady is a sure fire hall of famer…one of the best ever. and of course flacco isnt in his league yet. but right now i would rather pay a 28 yr old than a 35 yr olf

By: jprcox

jprcox — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:16:58 +0000

People also need to stop comparing Flacco with Brady. Brady happens to be 1 of maybe 4 players that can actually justify their pay in relation to the success they bring year in and year out.

1. Brady
2. P. Manning
3. A. Rodgers
4. A.Peterson

Flacco’s name shouldn’t appear anywhere close to these names.

By: jprcox

jprcox — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:11:49 +0000

This is not good for the NFL. Teams that have to shell out 15% of their cap on 1 player is not going to be helpful for building solid overall teams.

Considering where Ravens are at with free agency and retiring players, I can’t see where this kind of move is worthwhile when it can hardly be said Flacco was the main reason for their superbowl win. Ravens were solid in many positions.

By: jacktheraven

jacktheraven — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:09:41 +0000

Good point sandy, and Brady will be 36 before this season starts.

By: audge86

audge86 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:44:33 +0000

Brady could easily get more money from another team. No doubt in my mind. He took a team friendly deal

Flacco’s deal is not team friendly in the slightest.

I’m not going to debate QB quality because it’s irrelevant in this context.

The point is simply that Flacco’s deal is in no way generous to the Ravens. He’s becoming the highest paid NFL player. There’s no way to argue that he somehow left money on the table/could have kept fighting for more.

This article painting Flacco as somehow more generous than someone signing on for below market value is just a joke.

Ravens fans should be terrified of how this is structured and going to hit the team moving forward, not celebrating the contract.

By: sandy102270

sandy102270 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:14:43 +0000

The difference between Brady and Flacco in regard to the contract values is age, plain and simple.

How many teams that aren’t the Patriots would have given a 35 year old QB almost $60M guaranteed at this point in his career?

Now how many teams would give a 28 year old QB $120M?

That’s why Brady’s deal keeps getting brought up in conjunction to Flacco’s….because the idea that he took one for the team has been overblown by the media.

It isn’t hate, its reality.

By: audge86

audge86 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:37:18 +0000

Brady gets $3 million more over the next 2 years than he would have previously. After that, he gets significantly less.

Brady’s cap hits:
2013: $13.8 million
2014: $14.8 million
2015: $13 million
2016: $14 million
2017: $15 million

Brady gets a couple perks in the form of more guaranteed money, more up front money(signing bonus).

Blah, I don’t want to make this about Brady. But his name being repeatedly dragged through the mud based on false claims is getting annoying

I’d be more worried about how Flacco’s money is going to hit the cap in the future if his hit this year is really only $10 million out of $120.6 million

By: scoobies05

scoobies05 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:09:25 +0000

ravens fan and not a brady hater. but please dont believe that brady did something solely for the team. he doubled his guaranteed money and actually made an extra 3 million more. no doubt this gave immediate cap relief to the pats but eventually bradys bonus will count against the cap. as far as flacco all reports indicate that his cap number will be no more than 10 million…he signed a very friendly cap deal to help the ravens. and eventually his number will go against the cap.

By: audge86

audge86 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:07:15 +0000

So Brady’s 5 years/$57 million is somehow less team friendly than 6 years/$120.6million(reportedly)

You really have some seriously Brady hate going on. I don’t know why you even had to bring him into this discussion(last line, Brady is from San Mateo, a not very subtle dig)

I’m pretty sure demanding to be the highest paid NFL player is pushing it to the brink.

Brady signs on for below market value to balance the cap hits for the team and free up space. Flacco demands highest average contract in NFL history. Praise Flacco? what?

By: baymac408

baymac408 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:53:10 +0000

Throws up prayers and the NFL gave him that ring.. I’d pay the reciever that make his praying ducks look good.. He’s full of luck

By: tarkenton2white

tarkenton2white — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:19:06 +0000

If you understand that the money to run an NFL franchise flows from fans and consumers, and not directly from player’s statistics, this deal makes plenty of sense. Flacco is a superbowl hero now and will help the Ravens get butts in seats, sell jerseys, banner ads, etc.

By: scoobies05

scoobies05 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:08:19 +0000

not a difference maker? did you not see this years playoffs?

By: BringBackTheFlex

BringBackTheFlex — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:33:42 +0000

Flacco’s is a good QB, but he isn’t a difference maker worth this kind of money. The Ravens made a mistake. I hope they keep him for many many years.

By: jcharlesw01

jcharlesw01 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 13:42:51 +0000

The cap hit will be only about 7 million. Haters can hate, but all must marvel at the best GM in the business

By: ty46

ty46 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 13:37:44 +0000

Until the last 5 games of his career, he was a 10 mil a year QB at best… With huge help from refs and some hail-maries he is now a 20 mil a year guy. Overpaid.

By: ray Diaz in NC

ray Diaz in NC — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:37:51 +0000

I am not sure what you haters of Flacco see? He has been a class act and took a huge gamble on himself and won. I say good for him. The Ravens will be competitive for a long time to come. This is a qb driven league and the Ravens have a solid and extremely productive one. Quit hating and thank God you got him. You could be like me and my fellow Dolphin fans still searching.

By: voiceofreason

voiceofreason — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:13:55 +0000

But everyone knows the team will exdend him towards the end of that contract, in about 5 years. This contract wont last for 7 seasons.

By: clownsfan

clownsfan — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 10:47:03 +0000

I’d still take Brady. And Rogers, Brees or either Manning.

By: gonavybeatarmy

gonavybeatarmy — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 08:47:49 +0000

The “highest paid Qb in the league” has never been selected for a pro bowl, had a consistently good regular season, and thrown for 4k yards despite never being injured when the old 4k yard benchmark is now 5k yards given all of the rules favoring QB’s.

By: ravensdominate

ravensdominate — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 08:41:43 +0000

Love it! Go Ravens!!

By: funshipm174

funshipm174 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 05:18:15 +0000

Maybe in terms of needing to sign Flacco because of offers that would have been presented, I understand.

As far as what they actually are getting for their money is another story.

All the quaterbacks listed have proven to be able to carry their teams when their repective teams have had significant injuries or just plain lack of talent.
The question is can Joe Flacco carry the Ravens if they suffer a signicant loss?

I don’t believe he can.

Rodgers

Brees

Brady

Manning

By: briscocountyjr

briscocountyjr — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 04:47:06 +0000

The ravens closed this deal because they’ve been suffering the regret of not locking up Trent Dilfer to a mega-contract after his SB win.

By: str8infamous

str8infamous — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 04:34:52 +0000

Everybody talking bout the wrong part of this deal. Theres always a 50/50 chance he’s not a Raven 6-7yrs from now, and or they restructure him in 4 yrs to fit under the cap (Like so many teams have done this year) So the ONLY thing that matters is the amount of upfront money & the guaranteed money he’s set to receive.

By: ravenator

ravenator — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:50:03 +0000

Oz is the best GM in the league. Feel free to hate now, haters

By: thegregwitul

thegregwitul — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:48:16 +0000

I don’t get all this Flacco hate. He’s owned Tom Brady over the last few years, outperforming him even in the playoff loss two seasons ago, he had a strong regular season, was clutch in the playoffs and won his first Super Bowl. This guy isn’t Mark Sanchez. If anything, he might be the AFC version of Eli Manning, another elite QB who has owned Tom Brady, had several clutch games and won two Super Bowls.

The Ravens weren’t competing with themselves in resigning Flacco. Had he been in a position where other teams could have presented him with contract offers, Joe would have been contemplating offers from at least half a dozen teams, if not more. The Ravens did well to lock up their franchise QB longterm, now they can consider using the franchise tag on one of their other soon to be free agents.

By: jcmeyer10

jcmeyer10 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:33:01 +0000

All I have to say about Flacco is “Hey Diddle Diddle Ray Rice Up the Middle” saved their season.

By: contra74

contra74 — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:27:09 +0000

Also worth mentioning that the packers are on a heavy decline.

By: tfbuckfutter

tfbuckfutter — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 03:14:39 +0000

Also important to remember…..aside from a really amazing playoff run, he has been a pretty pedestrian QB.

Who now gets $127.3 million over the next 7 years.

Hope for their sake he plays to that amazing playoff run bar instead of the much much lower bar he’s performed to otherwise.