Comments on: Flacco deal done, signing tomorrow

By: audge86

audge86 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 19:02:13 +0000

edreedisgod says: Mar 4, 2013 8:10 AM

Flacco cap number is 6.8 mil.for the ucoming year…. Half of Brady’s cap number…Who is the team player now? Keep Hating Flacco lol

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Yes, for one year. The point is how horribly huge the number gets in future years. And with his signing bonus, that’s money guaranteed to hit the cap even if you cut him. It’s a scary situation for the ravens future

fans should honestly be hoping that he bombs/plays as mediocre as usual over the next couple years so the team will be able to restructure him at a reasonable rate. Based on how this negotiation went, Flacco is not going to take less in future contracts so long as he’s playing at a decent level

It’s unsustainable, just like the Brees contract. I’ve read multiple reports that the salary cap spike teams are hoping for is simply not going to happen. Instead, the increase will be spaced out over a few years

plus, as the cap increases, every other player uses it to justify wanting more. and teams who are not handcuffed by massive salaries will pay them

it’s pretty sad, the direction of QB contracts. :/ I’m hoping Rodgers isn’t a diva. He could help “right the ship.” Plus taking less is good PR and Rodgers loves his endorsements. He also has more of the face and personality for them than Flacco. So I guess Flacco does need the contract more than others in that regard.

By: judsonjr

judsonjr — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:56:53 +0000

The only thing the Flacco deal does for me is strengthen my opinion the Franchise tag should be based in part on the *actual money earned* in recent contracts.

You see so many big free agent signings of guys that are in their late 20′s, and they are cut 2-3 years later when the big money kicks in and their performance declines. So they sign for 5 years 50 million, but are cut after making 20 million in 2 years. They then take another contract for say 2 years 8 million before they are out of the league. So the reality is that they make 4 years, 28 million.

Maybe it doesn’t matter since the money isn’t guaranteed, but it seems like the current system could start to put QB’s in a position where they take up a massive % of the cap.

By: lovefootball4life

lovefootball4life — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:36:01 +0000

Folks, again, his cap number is low for the next two years. Then it goes up. So does the cap by a large amount when the TV deals come in next year. That’s why teams are willing to restructure by pushing out 2+ years. One area you can’t compare Flacco to other QBs is that he is on his first contract after the rookie contract. Other QBs are on the restructure train with their existing contract. Flacco will too soon enough.

By: kfp55

kfp55 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:23:47 +0000

I’ll try and quote mike tomlin here. “Excuses are for losers…” Forgive me if it’s slightly off, but you get the idea.
Why is everyone else worried about th ravens cap? Flacco cap number is 6.8 milling in 13. By the time it’s gets out of control the will extend again.

By: themage78

themage78 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:23:01 +0000

He’s Mark Sanchez, except his running game, wr, and defense have all stayed the same or gotten better. Let’s see what happens this year when he has no Boldin, no Ray Lewis, and he better pray Rice has another 4th and 29 to save his sorry butt. He did nothing in the regular season to help them win.

By: baymac408

baymac408 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:50:22 +0000

Go watch the Super Bowl again!! With an UN BIAS attitude! 9-2 in penalties.. We lost and should have ran the ball in on last drive, but that doesn’t explain the P.I. On 2nd down and 4th down… That’s not even bringing up 2 blatant holds on kickoff return on miller #49 and the multiple holds especially on culliver when they wasted time on punt.. Lot of questionable calls and no calls.. I. Favor for the ravens…. So like I said if it wasn’t for anquan you wouldn’t have won!! It’s cool Flacco got paid more power to him but he doesn’t deserve that type of money… ravens we will be smashing for years to come… Will you?? Nag..

By: ravenseattheirownpoop

ravenseattheirownpoop — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 17:06:14 +0000

Mediocre at best. I love the signing. Now u r stuck with an average qb that is eating up all ur cap room.
Yeah, Ozzie sure is enough. At least he will have enough $ to keep his eyebrow waxed. Dude looks like Bert or Ernie.

By: sudz28

sudz28 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:25:44 +0000

There’s no denying Flacco had a spectacular post-season run and frankly would have had them in the Superbowl *last* year if not for Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff. Still, how many Ravens fans are honestly happy with this and feel that Flacco is worth the $$$ thats being thrown his way? For 5 years I’ve heard more Ravens fans than not bash this guy and complain that his inconsistency is a liability; now he’s had a single great run and he’s cashing in. Can he continue to play at that high level, or was it a well-timed fluke?

My buddy at work, a rabid Ravens fan, spent all of 2012 complaining about Flacco and state flat-out that he’d rather have Ben Roethlisberger as his QB. Now that they won the SB, he’s done an about face and tells me that the only reason I’d still take Ben over Joe is because I’m a ‘homer’. No, it’s because over the career body of their work Ben has been more consistent and a better QB. Time may yet prove me wrong, but I’m certainly not sold on Flacco being a top-3 (or even top-5) QB at this time.

By: itsfootballbaby

itsfootballbaby — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:11:30 +0000

The truth, Mr. Factory, is that over the last five years, when it comes to winning, no one has a better resume than Flacco. So you can say “He’s not top 10 or top 5″ but remember, the Ravens play real football for real wins not fantasy points.

By: rhamrhoddy

rhamrhoddy — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:48:38 +0000

If I had to wait a few days to sign a contract like that, I would be so tense. I probably wouldn’t leave the house for fear of car crash, meteor, patch of ice messing me up before I signed.

Probably the best thing to do while waiting to sign is just take a relaxing motorcycle ride through a scenic, snowy mountainside, wind in your hair, no helmet, followed by some alcohol-fueled BASE jumping to clear the head.

By: lrical

lrical — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:34:49 +0000

Don’t forget. The rookie wage scale was set so vets could be paid like they should

By: jamaltimore

jamaltimore — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:34:38 +0000

Love all the Flacco haters. Check your QB’s performance over the past 5 years and see who deserves a better contract. Maybe only Eli manning who won two superbowls. Then you have Arod, Brees and Brady. That my friends make’s Joe top 5 if you care about winning and not fantasy numbers. Regardless of Cap space, Ozzie ALWAYS will put talent around him.

Black and Purple!

By: hmink96

hmink96 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:34:17 +0000

The folks calling this a terrible contract, and already writing the Ravens off for the next 6 seasons are probably the same people who said the ravens would be one and done in the playoffs.

By: edreedisgod

edreedisgod — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:10:11 +0000

Flacco cap number is 6.8 mil.for the ucoming year…. Half of Brady’s cap number…Who is the team player now? Keep Hating Flacco lol

By: ravensallday2012

ravensallday2012 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:04:21 +0000

Baymac: Did the nfl let them score 34 PTs on the terrible def. suck it up u got beat. O yea 1st down on the 5 and u don’t even try to run with gore or qb. Start questioning the play calling and then come back

By: ravensallday2012

ravensallday2012 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:52:46 +0000

Not sure y ppl say it will hurt for cap space. They saved money in the cap with this contract Plus Super Bowl MVP. Pay the man

By: tuxbirds

tuxbirds — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:48:21 +0000

Great Job Ozzie and Pat, LOL, Flacco’s cap number DOWN a million from 2012!!!! Revving up for the repeat.

By: kfp55

kfp55 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:34:32 +0000

Funny how miners fans remember a non-call at the end but forget a non-call at end of first quarter on Torrey smith that would have been a ravens TD. It was a great game and your team lost, let it go. As for the contract, I’m sure the ravens FO knows more than we all do how this deal will be against the cap now and future years. All teams do. With no information what the future total cap will be or what Flacco’s number will be its all uneducated hypotheses on everyone’s part

By: ravenator

ravenator — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:31:43 +0000

Flacco is a winner and a superbowl MVP. i can only imagine the haters response if he wasnt signed. Ravens will continue to win, haters will continue to hate. Cheers!

By: myosin10

myosin10 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:51:38 +0000

Congrats to Flacco, get money! Although they better hook up Jacoby Jones too the real SB MVP. With this deal Baltimore is officially not a playoff contender anymore. Do they have enough cap room for Ed reed or any of their FA? Feeling pretty good right now knowing SF has a better and younger QB costing less than 1 mil leaving much room for more talent and another SB run!

By: randolph32

randolph32 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:50:50 +0000

So what happens if the Bears win the Super Bowl next year, do they pay Cutler this kind of money? I certainly couldn’t imagine they would…..

By: ru44202

ru44202 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:43:37 +0000

The ravens were in in an unenviable position. They are stuck with Flacco as a “upper middle class” quarterback. There are no better options and with the Browns poised to throw mad cash his way, the Purples had no choice. If he could, Art Modell would agree that Karma is a bitch!

By: jammer88

jammer88 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:44:20 +0000

Are you f’n kidding me? A $120 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT over 6 years for an at best mediocre QB? Great, now that the NFL is just giving these contracts away to undeserving players, all players will now think they deserve more than they are worth and before too long, an average ticket in the NFL will be 5k! Didn’t these bone head owners learn anything from the albert hainesworth $100 million dollar flop?

By: bigbenownsthenfl

bigbenownsthenfl — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:30:16 +0000

Terrible front office. Steeler fans are in absolute Bliss over this ridiculous contract!

By: zclor

zclor — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 09:38:53 +0000

At least he is covered for life in terms of buying tweezers to pluck his unibrow.

By: BigBeachBall

BigBeachBall — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:25:06 +0000

Flaco is a geek

By: tramonisland

tramonisland — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:06:18 +0000

Finally he’ll be able to afford a decent haircut.

By: ddjesus

ddjesus — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 07:42:42 +0000

I don’t understand how we’re at a lower salary cap than we were a few years ago, and the owners have leveraged the players to take a slightly smaller chunk of the revenue, but we’re handing out contracts that make Albert Haynesworth blush. I don’t know how any team can justify using 1/6 of their cap on one player, and as a packers fan, I’m scared of what Rodgers’s impending mega contract will mean for my team’s future.

By: raiderlyfe510

raiderlyfe510 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:54:01 +0000

I wonder if he’s going to sign the contract with a ski mask?

By: phaktor333

phaktor333 — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:37:05 +0000

The biggest mistake teams that shell out the big bucks to QBs often make is assuming that he will all of sudden flip the switch and be able to carry the team on his shoulders for the duration of the contract.

The Ravens will be better served in doing what they have done to get them to this point…win with defense, a consistent run game and mistake free pass game. Just because Flacco is being paid like he is the next coming of Peyton Manning does not mean that the team shouldn’t stick to the script. Flacco would not have performed as well as he did if he had the pressure of scoring on every possession week to week; the defense would give him the ball and allow the offense to stay in games. They better pray that the drafts for the next three years are slam dunks because with this contract, there will be no room to build depth through free agency.

Lastly, another guy that has to be thinking of his future is one Ray Rice…with the contract that Flacco is getting, just one mere sign of slippage will give the team ample ammunition to unload his contract in a salary dump trade or just by plain cutting him. Can say the same about Nata too. I will not be surprised to see the Ravens go running back early in this draft in order to protect themselves financially over the next three years in case Rice does indeed slip.

With this contract, the Ravens have thrown all of their eggs into the draft (no more lure for free agents of playing with Ray Lewis and taking the discount) for the next three years and if less than half of the players pan out, the team will be 8-8 and openly trying to find ways to get from under the deal.

Other than that, go get’em Joe!! And don’t go and get all Tony Eason on the fans now that you’ve gotten paid.