Bills, Bucs refer matter of intercepted phone call to NFL Security

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Every time we say we’ve seen everything, we manage to see something else that makes us say, “Now we’ve seen everything.”

Pending future events, now we’ve seen everything.

A pair of 20-year-olds somehow managed to record a telephone conversation between Bills G.M. Buddy Nix and Buccaneers G.M. Mark Dominik.

Dubbed by Deadspin (which has published the audio) as “pranksters,” there’s a chance that the state or federal authorities will apply a stronger term.

“We are aware of the report on Deadspin involving a phone conversation with Bills G.M. Buddy Nix,” the Bills told PFT  in a statement. “We have made the league aware of the report and are reviewing it with legal counsel.”

The Buccaneers declined comment.  Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Buccaneers likewise have referred the matter to NFL Security.

Setting aside the specific circumstances, the law generally frowns on secretly recording audio.  In many states and at the federal level, at least one party to the conversation must consent to the fact that the discussion is being taped.  Some states make it illegal even if one party to the conversation knows that the audio is being recorded.

The kids involved had no malicious intent; it was by all appearances a prank.  But if they intended to record the call (and they clearly did) and if Nix and Dominik had no idea that the call was being recorded (and they clearly didn’t), this thing could get interesting for reasons far beyond the things Nix and Dominik said to each other.

UPDATE 1:41 p.m. ET:  We won’t be discussing any of the content of the call, for now.  Because I don’t have the time to research the law and because I fear that there could be a provision extending criminal or civil liability to anyone who knowingly publishes the content of an illegally-recorded conversation, we’re being careful on this one.  For a change.  (The wireless connection inside a prison may not be very reliable.  Especially with all the barbed wire screwing up the waves.)

57 responses to “Bills, Bucs refer matter of intercepted phone call to NFL Security

  1. I bet it was someone from Deadspin posing as a couple of twenty year olds. How do you think they get half of their BS stories? What was done was wrong and I hope they punish those responsible.

  2. Come on MAN! What is there to here.

    Nix “You suck.”

    Dominik “No you suck”

    Nix, “you suck more”

    Dominick, “No you suck more”

  3. Kids these days… with the long hair and the rock-and-roll music and the corporate espionage.

  4. A quick Google search later, New York appears to be a one party state, which doesn’t matter, because it appears Florida is a two party state. You need consent from all parties to record a conversation. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

  5. When you are 20+ years old, you are no longer a ‘kid’. These men knew or should have known better.

  6. This was Belichik’s sons. He’s playing chess while the rest of the league is playing checkers.

  7. The Bills want to penalize young football fans. It isn’t enough that they put a rotten product on the field on Sundays, they have to be rotten all week as well.

  8. They should get a fine and probation but remember, it’s a game, not national security. Plus, does anyone even care what the Bucs ands Bills are doing? It’s not like they’re going to compete this year.

  9. If the Nix and Dominik were not doing anything wrong, why do they care if anyone was listening?

    Oh wait, that only applies if the Gov’t wants to listen to your phone calls. Then you can use that excuse.

  10. This is a great example of how virtual privacy is under attack. The rules are constantly evolving and security is being tested every hour. From the huge banks to the NFL, hacking is a huge and very real problem. The NFL needs to update their IT security policy to keep up to date with these “20 something” college kids that know the holes in the internet better than most heads of security. Cyber crime is real and in this case both of these teams need to look at their current IT infrastructure and make some adjustments.

  11. Great stuff !!

    Wonder how Josh Freeman feels today as the QB of the Bucs ?

    Wonder how the Bills fans feel about Buddy Nix? How many times did he call Dominik’s “cell phone” because of a hang up and keep calling back? Desperation

  12. @NOLA in Focus I don’t think 2 party or 1 party consent matters here because neither Nix nor Dominik gave recording consent (that we know of).

  13. Go ahead, knock yourselves out finding what was said. If that makes your life better, gives you an edge with the Vegas line, gets you your jollies then by all means spend your time with the rest of the morons who pretend to have a need to know. And, check your meds.

  14. mwatts1 says:
    Mar 12, 2013 1:47 PM
    This is a great example of how virtual privacy is under attack. The rules are constantly evolving and security is being tested every hour. From the huge banks to the NFL, hacking is a huge and very real problem. The NFL needs to update their IT security policy to keep up to date with these “20 something” college kids that know the holes in the internet better than most heads of security. Cyber crime is real and in this case both of these teams need to look at their current IT infrastructure and make some adjustments.

    YEAH SOME HACK JOB! They called the Bills front office and said they were Mark Dominik and were forwarded directly to Buddy’s number. The kids hung up when he answered because they never thought they would get through. Then Buddy kept calling back the wrong number over and over again until the next morning – when the kids decided to try the other end – and were patched through to Dominik’s line.
    Some high-level IT cyber crime there! How about professionals confirming who they have on the line?

  15. The real story is that the two kids called in to the Bills publically posted front office number, asked for Buddy Nix, and we’re immediately connected with him…And I have to go through 19 levels just to get a manager at Walgreens.

  16. Uh oh, Mickey Loomis better have a rock solid alibi or Goodell and ESPN will certainly try to pin it on him.

  17. WOW…Nix was really slamming his QB. That’s not going to go over well.

    Dom slamming the Bucs corners is not a big deal. Everyone knows a corner is coming from free agency and the draft.

  18. @dmartin17

    I was envisioning a scenario where the pranksters lawyers argued their clients were parties to the conversation, with their contribution to the conversation subtle and prior to the recording. That wouldn’t matter in FL

  19. Of course, the defense attorneys will argue that the hacker who recorded the call was either a season ticket holder or super fan with a vested interest. A liberal judge will legislate from the bench about how the hacker had a right to know what to expect from “his” team. Before you know it, the American people will be forced to accept that we don’t have an expectation of privacy during a phone call. The current administration will run with this precedent.

  20. I just looked it up; in Florida it looks like this would probably be a misdemeanor, but in New York, its a felony. Oops.

    In reality though, I doubt these kids had malicious intent. There are bigger fish to fry than two kids eavesdropping on a telephone call.

  21. Holy crap some of you are ruthless! What these kids did was stupid and immature, but there’s a reason we have judges and juries. Throwing them in prison will ruin their lives. That punishment doesn’t fit the crime. Give them a fine and some community service and maybe scare them a little bit, but don’t put the kids in prison and place an extra burden on the taxpayers.

  22. Its a felony is the State of Florida to record a conversation without all parties knowing and agreeing to it. You do not have to prove malicious intent. Im sure the Hillsborough County State Attorney is also looking into it.

  23. OK. Not taking anything away from the fact that this can be a criminal offense and it’s wrong and all that. But one thing bothers me: I find it ridiculous that you can get to talk with a GM so easily. Just call and say you’re X General Manager. I mean, come on. Don’t the Bills and Bucs have tighter security measures around that?

  24. Ha! Proof that Spygate has become a covert underground operation! This is just the tip of the iceberg! I think its time for a federal raid on Gillette Stadium catacombs.

  25. there’s no issue with publishing a description or transcription of the phone call…it’s already in the public domain.

    as others stated, not much of interest, other than some ryan fitzpatrick bashing. However, it is neat to hear the interworkings of what GMs talk about

  26. I am sure they were both talking about keeping their jobs. Nix has ruined the Bills with his draft picks –there are a handful of good players on the team–he just signed leogis mckelvin who is a decent retrun man but cannot play cornerback and tackling the right way is a challenge for him–The bills keep blaming the coach but any coach with these mediocre players would be on the hot seat. Nix should have nothing to do with the draft–cant say too much about Tampa if tehy want to trade for a player here -their mostly bad and a handful of good.

  27. mwatts1 says:Mar 12, 2013 1:47 PM

    This is a great example of how virtual privacy is under attack. The rules are constantly evolving and security is being tested every hour. From the huge banks to the NFL, hacking is a huge and very real problem. The NFL needs to update their IT security policy to keep up to date with these “20 something” college kids that know the holes in the internet better than most heads of security. Cyber crime is real and in this case both of these teams need to look at their current IT infrastructure and make some adjustments.

    virtual privacy? Was the phone call cloud based? lol… What does the I.T Security policy have to do with anything? This is directly related to the phone systems. most likely the call was made via cellphone and not landline otherwise they would have had to wiretap. the teams I.T security administrator could not do anything about an incident like this.

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