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Everyone deserves blame for Dumervil debacle

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Regardless of the machinations or the motivations, blame for the fact that defensive end Elvis Dumervil no longer is a member of the Broncos falls on all parties involved.

The NFL, like many businesses, runs on deadlines.  When making decisions up against a deadline, both sides need to allow enough time to get the deal done.

And if the deal doesn’t get done in time, both sides share the blame equally.

If Dumervil’s agent, Marty Magid, needed more time to study the revised documents, he needed to say so.  If the Broncos needed more time to process the paperwork, they needed to say so.  The end result was a clusterfudge that makes everyone look bad.

That said, the real question is whether one side or the other was up to something.  The Broncos had nothing to gain by creating the impression that they were forced to cut Dumervil, unless they somehow decided from a P.R. perspective that the accidental departure of Dumervil would be received more favorably by the fan base than the intentional release of Dumervil.

In contrast, Dumervil could have duped the Broncos into guaranteeing his entire contract if the team failed to cut him before the end of the business day.  Alternatively, Magid may have decided to force the release after word got out that Dumervil would make $8 million in 2013 — and after possibly hearing from another team that would be willing to pay Dumervil more than that.

We suspect the latter, based on Magid’s comments to Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com.

“We haven’t talked yet, but I think we all needed to take a deep breath and then we’ll see where it goes,’” Magid said.  “Unfortunately, it didn’t work out the way we wanted, but everything happens for a reason and it’s not like this anybody’s fault. This wasn’t just a case of an agent taking too long to send something.  It’s not anyone’s fault, but Elvis is a free agent now and we’ll see how that process plays out.”

If both sides intended to honor the deal that was negotiated on Friday, both sides will promptly fix the situation and move forward with a new deal.  It was painted as an accident; any other outcome indicates that the accident really wasn’t.

Still, if the truth is that the Broncos were snookered, they helped make that happen by not establishing a clear deadline and ensuring that all documents were signed in sufficient time to permit the revised contract to become official.

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78 Responses to “Everyone deserves blame for Dumervil debacle”
  1. 1bbfan says: Mar 15, 2013 7:17 PM

    It looks to me like Evis will take the best offer out there at this point.If anyone will be hurt by ths it is not Elvis. He can always fall back to Denver. The Broncos let it go to far.

  2. walker615 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:18 PM

    Vehemently disagree. The broncos did nothing wrong: they established a clear 1 pm deadline, which the dumervil camp violated.

    As a broncos fan, Im furious with this agent. He seems like a scumbag.

  3. eaglesooneru2 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:19 PM

    No way Denver did this intentionally just to avoid a fan backlash, they’re getting hit with a close to five million dollar cap hit. Also with the contracts that avril and Bennett have gotten, no way Elvis is going to get 8 million a season from anyone this year. Sounds like it really was just a screwed up deal unless Elvis truly thought he would get his guaranteed 12 million if deadline passed but that seems like a long shot. What does everyone think about this weird deal?

  4. naterysavy says: Mar 15, 2013 7:20 PM

    It’s pretty clear that everyone agreed to a deal before the deadline. The paperwork just took 6 minutes too long to process. Can’t that be enough?

  5. scoops1 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:24 PM

    Dumervil wants an explanation!!!

  6. jpb12 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:24 PM

    They didn’t get their homework done in time.
    Too busy playing chicken.

    Quit making excuses for them.

  7. benbulben says: Mar 15, 2013 7:25 PM

    The Broncos had a deadline of 1pm. When 1pm passed Elway and Fox began discussing plan B before Dumervil’s agent agreed to the terms at 1.25 prompting the rush to get the paperwork through. Broncos had a deadline, Dumervil and/or his agent left it too late. Agent to blame. The information is out there, try and base an article on it

  8. marionbarber24isgod says: Mar 15, 2013 7:26 PM

    Negative Florio. This is 100% on Dumervil and his agent. The Broncos have a business to run.

  9. broncosaddict says: Mar 15, 2013 7:27 PM

    What is not clear about “We need the signed doc by 1:59PM”?
    And we need an answer by 1PM.
    The agent and Elvis were late 30 almost 30 minutes the first time and then 8 min’s late with the doc’s.
    What else should they have done….maybe add “or else” to the end?

    Whether intentional or not, in this case, I dont see how you can blame anyone but the agent and Elvis.

  10. johnnyb216 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:28 PM

    Blame it on Tebow!

  11. mrmraider7 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:30 PM

    New England, San Diego, Kansas City, or Oakland (if they cut Palmer or Palmers Salary)

  12. profootballwalk says: Mar 15, 2013 7:30 PM

    Agents are like lawyers – everyone hates them – until they need one.

  13. michfn1 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:31 PM

    Denver has a business to run yet Denver is the one who signed him to the contract they didn’t want to honor .. Honestly i don’t blame elvis and his agent at all for sticking it to them after they have pretty much tried to screw him from the start ..And this guy will find plenty of teams willing to pay him and i’m sure he will find a team that has denver on the schedule

  14. thisonesforpat says: Mar 15, 2013 7:32 PM

    Yup, that’s what I thought. It wasn’t a late fax it was a ploy. We’ll have to see of this was a good move or not.

  15. thegreatgabbert says: Mar 15, 2013 7:32 PM

    Broncos were screaming, “C’mon Elvis, get off the pot! We don’t have all eternity.”.

  16. wojowbk says: Mar 15, 2013 7:35 PM

    Apparently the Broncos sent the agent a contract with different numbers than the ones that were agreed on.

    That’s what you get when you hire a horse to run your franchise.

    Broncos are a joke.

  17. brownspower says: Mar 15, 2013 7:35 PM

    Dumervil’s agent was trying to sneak one passed Elway and got smacked down. Shoulda taken the $8M.

  18. tmcrouch1 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:40 PM

    Maybe he’ll be a raider soon. Lord knows we need help.

  19. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Mar 15, 2013 7:42 PM

    Don’t blame Jerry Angelo.

  20. elwaysmilehighdenver says: Mar 15, 2013 7:44 PM

    I place all this clusterfudge on Elvis.
    He’s known that Denver wanted him to take a salary reduction for weeks! He’ll come back to sign for 7 million next week.

  21. billbelichickisagenuis says: Mar 15, 2013 7:45 PM

    Weaker sabotaged the fax. Now we know why Bill Belichick let him sign with Denver. Time to sign Dumervil. Genius.

    Go Pats.

  22. harrisonhits2 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:46 PM

    Gonna look good in a Pats uni!

  23. eatitfanboy says: Mar 15, 2013 7:49 PM

    Maybe the agent’s secretary ran out of whiteout and couldn’t make the corrections to her typing before they snatched it from the typewriter and stuffed it into the fax machine.

    Or maybe the Broncos fax machine’s roll of paper ran out before the fax came through. Who knows?

    Will we ever know?

  24. nflhof says: Mar 15, 2013 7:49 PM

    Maybe Elway was waiting to hear back from Peyton on whether or not to do the deal with Elvis and Archie couldn’t tell Peyton what to do.

  25. sundayisthebestday says: Mar 15, 2013 7:51 PM

    Not Denver’s fault. Doom’s agent is either an idiot or a scumbag. Maybe both.

  26. maiphatdong says: Mar 15, 2013 7:52 PM

    He’ll resign with Broncos.

  27. dennisatunity says: Mar 15, 2013 7:52 PM

    I am not into conspiracies or anything like it. But my instincts tell me this is exactly how all parties involved wanted the thing to happen. This way, the problem appears to be with deadlines and fax machines, not with people having to make tough decisions.

  28. mungman69 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:54 PM

    He wants to play for the Eagles. But can he quarterback?

  29. puckthefatriots says: Mar 15, 2013 7:55 PM

    If this fax machine debacle would have happened in the playoffs, Peyton would have been blamed.

  30. johninthewest says: Mar 15, 2013 7:59 PM

    Maybe the agent simply forgot to change his clocks back last weekend??…wait!! that’s forward one hour! Agent is in EST and Dumervil in MST. Wait!… was the agent working from his desk PST? Is this a leaper year? Maybe he forgot to flip his calendar from January, no I mean february!!… Damn it’s so hard to remember what day it is!!!! Thank God it’s Thursday!!!

  31. thegonz13 says: Mar 15, 2013 7:59 PM

    Elvis has left the building!

  32. Atzauz says: Mar 15, 2013 7:59 PM

    ‘Everyone’? I don’t deserve blame for this:P

  33. bryco9 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:02 PM

    He needs to come to minnesota and pair up with Jared Allen, they’d give O-lines nightmares.

  34. kingfish2013 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:06 PM

    May the football gods bring Elvis to the Rock n Roll Capital.Go Brownies.

  35. nflhof says: Mar 15, 2013 8:09 PM

    Maybe Elway was waiting to hear back from Peyton on whether or not to do the deal with Elvis and Archie couldn’t get back to Peyton in time.

  36. etoharin78 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:15 PM

    WRONG! Elway released a statement that said at 11AM a proposal was sent and Dumervil swiftly turned it down. At 1:25 Magid informed the.Broncos that Dumervil changed his mind and agreed to the proposal that Elway didn’t change during the course of the day. In what third world country does it take over 30 minutes to send a FAX or confirm via email that the terms were mutually agreed???

  37. wildbillsrodeo says: Mar 15, 2013 8:15 PM

    Dumervil’s gonna look GOOD lining up against Denver when the Broncos come to Foxboro… GO PATS

  38. ebbycalvinlaloosh says: Mar 15, 2013 8:18 PM

    It’s not as easy as just agreeing to move forward with a new deal. The Broncos now have almost $5 million in dead money against the cap this season resulting from a prorated signing bonus from the now terminated contract. If they now agreed to pay Dumervil the same $8 million that they had agreed on earlier today he would count nearly $13 million against the cap. That’s more than the guaranteed $12 million he was scheduled to make which prompted the Broncos to try to reduce his pay in the first place. There’s no way they can sign him now.

  39. milehigh85 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:23 PM

    All on doom and his agent from what I’ve gathered. Broncos gave them the final offer at 1 est… They declined, then changed their minds and want to complain about not having enough time?

  40. toonloonboon says: Mar 15, 2013 8:25 PM

    i know where elvis is tonight…heartbreak hotel

  41. billbelichickisagenius says: Mar 15, 2013 8:29 PM

    I think the Superbowl predictions from the Donkey fans was a bit premature. Don’t ya think?

  42. dolphins4 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:29 PM

    Watch the Chiefs sign him.

  43. liongator says: Mar 15, 2013 8:30 PM

    Dumervil had a contract, Denver is the one that didn’t want to honor it and if they took a hit for cutting him, that’s their decision not his. Everything that happened was initiated by Denver,Elway was the one that went to the media talking about the salary being out of whack and he ‘hoped’ dumervil realized that and would take a significant cut. If a GM uses the media as a tool for negotiation and to humiliate a player into taking a pay cut, then he deserves to get screwed. Act like a professional GM and not Terrell Owens, Horseface.

  44. chi01town says: Mar 15, 2013 8:30 PM

    Elway made it clear that he did NOT
    want to PAY Dumervil his already agreed apon contract. the Broncos need to Pay Dumervil his Money ALL OF IT. cause this looks shady on Elways part

  45. saintsfan26 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:31 PM

    Come on down to New Orleans

  46. pappyjoe69 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:32 PM

    I think you need to wait and see how this transpires before casting judgement. If Elvis lands somewhere for more than $8 million then I would suspect the low life agent was playing both sides of the fence. If he should only get, listen to…only get…$8 million or less then I would think it was not a planned move. The Broncos take a major hit on this years cap because of it and say he gets $6 million then he really took it in the shorts. Oh, and one other item, for all of you submerged in the electronic world, the fax machine is indeed alive and well in the business world, it is thriving! They’re still upgrading it matter of fact!

  47. dbfan4ever says: Mar 15, 2013 8:33 PM

    I hope that Von Miller doesn’t have the same agent!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. sbdt says: Mar 15, 2013 8:34 PM

    The idea that this wasn’t completely planned is laughable.

  49. tedstheman says: Mar 15, 2013 8:36 PM

    Magid is a maggot. Always has been always will be. One of the worst agents in football and very dishonest. This is not the first time he has lied and screwed up

  50. elliotlc says: Mar 15, 2013 8:36 PM

    There deadline was an hour before the leagues deadline

  51. paulitik74 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:39 PM

    This is Awesome. Come to Atlanta Elvis. Jerry Glanville still has some tickets waiting for you…

  52. EJ says: Mar 15, 2013 8:41 PM

    I sure hope he gets paid as he deserves by one of the Broncos main rivals, Oakland, KC, San Diego, Pittsburgh or New England. In that exact order.
    Not only does Elway look dumb for this debacle, but he pushes himself more toward the -I can’t stand this guy- category.

  53. tabcdef9 says: Mar 15, 2013 8:43 PM

    “The broncos did nothing wrong: they established a clear 1 pm deadline, which the dumervil camp violated.”

    Yeah, but who with any real life successful business experience would set a deadline that butts up against a 3rd Party’s deadline that follows immediately. this allows NO room for life’s variabilities.

  54. BroncsApocalypse says: Mar 15, 2013 8:43 PM

    There are two sides to a business… theres the side who pays, and the side who gets paid. Doom was clearly on the high side of where his current contract would have paid him this year. He had the right to make up his mind to test free agency if he thought he was worth at least 12 mil a year. He has that right. At the same time, the Broncos have to make roster decisions and that all hinges on Doom’s decision… they have new cap room to consider if he decided to leave.

    The Agent’s games put EVERYONE in this position by waiting until the 11th hour to make a decision. If Dumervil really wanted to be a Bronco, why did he wait so long to decide??

  55. 49ersandshivabowl says: Mar 15, 2013 8:52 PM

    Well, let’s be honest…..ANY NFL franchise that utilizes a FAX as it’s primary means of obtaining paperwork from separated parties needs to REALLY re-evaluate their production processes. P-D-F comes to mind. Seriously, now. The only thing worse would be asking Elvis to bring it in via messenger pigeon or pony express.

  56. killitandeatit says: Mar 15, 2013 8:52 PM

    All blame lies with John,look at my suit ,Elway. If you are the boss you make sure a deal gets done and you didn’t.Your failure and lack of attention to detail has hurt the team. John seems to be given all the credit when a deal is done and none of the blame when a player is lost . If the Denver Broncos are at a disadvantage, by this botch up, the buck stops with Elway. The other warning flag ? The guys name is Dumervil, so you know what could go wrong, would…Cool first name though.

  57. gbatap says: Mar 15, 2013 9:12 PM

    Big win for Dumervil. He makes Elway look like an ass(rather then a horse like he normally does), he doesn’t have so go through another heartbreaking first round playoff loss when it’s took cold for Peyton’s bionic neck and arm to grip the ball and he gets to sign a contract for likely more guaranteed money then the 8M$ he was slated to make with this new deal.

  58. FoozieGrooler says: Mar 15, 2013 9:17 PM

    Someone should alert the Broncos front office of those new-fangled inventions, the internet and email.

    Fax machines? Seriously?

  59. GenXJay says: Mar 15, 2013 9:19 PM

    Elvis must’ve not got Peytons Email (memo) for the new cover sheet on the TPS Report.

  60. lanman11 says: Mar 15, 2013 9:31 PM

    Pat’s won’t sign him. Too expensive. He thinks he’s getting more than 8 mil. That’s not gonna happen in NE.

    When the Patriots won the Superbowls, they could run the ball effectively, Brady could make average receivers look good, they had a good front 7 with excellent linebacker play, a strong secondary, and excellent strong safety play. Right now, they need to address the secondary. Too bad most of the good corners are gone.

  61. Patriot42 says: Mar 15, 2013 9:45 PM

    I had nothing to do with it so don’t blame me.

  62. papagambino says: Mar 15, 2013 9:49 PM

    Did I hear correctly that Elvis could not find a Kinkos fast enough. I am not joking

  63. atwatercrushesokoye says: Mar 15, 2013 10:06 PM

    I don’t think the Broncos care too much, they were prepared to move on without Elvis, that was the plan, it looked like he might stay for a brief period of time but he’s not, so back to the plan.

    And I don’t think they’re that worried about him going to one of their rivals, his biggest games (and he gets sacks in bunches) come against left tackles that are really tall and can’t handle (don’t realize) that he’ll dip underneath them, or tackles that don’t have the speed to deal with him, Ryan Clady has the speed to deal with him and having gone against him constantly in training camp isn’t going to suddenly forget his moves.

  64. PriorKnowledge says: Mar 15, 2013 10:26 PM

    For all you people who think Internet and email replaces a fax, you are wrong. A fax has a signed document. Internet and email cannot guarantee a signature on a document. Yes, you can sign the document, scan it, and then send it via email, but that is the same as a fax. Also, people can always claim that their email account was hacked, so fax is still the safest way to get a signed document.

  65. trchief1603 says: Mar 15, 2013 10:33 PM

    they should have honored their commitment. Denver was trying to go on the cheap.

  66. briscocountyjr says: Mar 15, 2013 10:40 PM

    The agent’s comments reveal a little bit of their position. By saying, “oops, guess it just didn’t get over in time”, they are playing around using circumstance (deadline) as an excuse not to really take the deal, field calls, and find the most lucrative offer while using the FA leverage. Just my opinion.

  67. cranespy says: Mar 15, 2013 10:46 PM

    Bet the farm that this was a ploy by Elway…..make it look like the agents fault rather than be a man and let him walk. There’s one thing Elway HAS to have even more than another Super Bowl victory……the acclaim of the fans.

  68. thestrategyexpert says: Mar 15, 2013 10:54 PM

    I highly disagree on this one and think the majority of the blame falls on the Broncos’ side. They know who these agents and players are and how they do business and it’s their job to factor that in and come up with a winning strategy to accomplish their objectives. They made their plays, through out some insults, and didn’t secure the package in the end. That’s on them and their issue if they deemed Elvis to be a desirable player to return.

    Elway has made a lot of mistakes like this in his short time. He does contribute some good things, but until he can polish up his business and planning skills and get his role down to a proper science he is prone to making more strategy mistakes in the future. The Broncos will only ever realize 90% of their potential until he can set his arrogance aside and help himself out with the flaws in his game.

  69. thetooloftools says: Mar 15, 2013 10:58 PM

    “clusterfudge” ?
    I LIKE IT !

  70. ortho23 says: Mar 15, 2013 11:06 PM

    You heard it here first; Dumervil will be a Buccaneer. With the loss of Bennett, Miller and Bowers and Claiborne coming off injury, Dumervil fits nicely into the Bucs 4-3.

  71. jackdaniels1 says: Mar 15, 2013 11:20 PM

    Dumb and Dummervil

  72. bnwpnw says: Mar 15, 2013 11:30 PM

    Wow, Marty Magid may be the scummiest agent since Tom “Poison Pill” Condon.

  73. adkfootballfan says: Mar 15, 2013 11:47 PM

    Two days ago the Broncos and Elway were hailed as geniuses for the Welker signing.

    Today, not so much.

    Welcome to the NFL where pedigree and potential take a back seat to performance.

    I wonder what Payton had to say since it appears as though Elway runs these decisions past him..

  74. itsfinn says: Mar 16, 2013 1:31 AM

    Didn’t Dumerville sign the 12 million dollar contract last August? If Elway thinks it is a bad contract then isn’t that his fault for agreeing to it in the first place, and recently?

    It sounds like the Bronco’s conned him last Summer with renegotiating this Spring in mind.

  75. eaglesooneru2 says: Mar 16, 2013 1:37 AM

    My god people, fax machines aren’t antiquated and often times documents are legally required to be in paper form instead of electronically. I would imagine all 32 teams use the exact same process. In case you don’t know, college football still requires letters of intent be faxed. Faxing was not the issue here, get a grip

  76. hjworton46 says: Mar 16, 2013 4:39 AM

    The bottom line is that ED rejected the teams best offer and then changed his mind – timewise its on him and his agent. He’s been a good player but won’t be a huge loss.

  77. hendeeze says: Mar 16, 2013 4:50 AM

    The Broncos were ready to move on and ready to take on the dead money cap hit from cutting him at 1:01. At 2:01 this action was executed. What happened between that hour right now is done.

  78. normswifevera says: Mar 16, 2013 7:45 AM

    Florio’s ending analysis is rather simplistic.

    According to Mike Klis, Denver was right up against the salary cap without Dumervil re-doing his contract. Going from $12 million down to $8 million would have given them $4 million in cap space.

    However, now they have a $4M+ penalty for cutting Dumervil. So if they re-signed him to the $8M deal they renegotiated, they would be right up against the cap again.

    Denver could work around that by paying him a large up front bonus, but they may not be willing to do that. And Dumervil may not be interested in taking what would be a 2nd paycut in order to provide Denver with some cap cushion.

    It’s not as simple as “If this was an accident, both sides will agree on a new deal”.

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