Not so fast on Emmanuel Sanders to New England

AP

When we passed along the report from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette saying Emmanuel Sanders had signed an offer sheet with the Patriots, we noted that there was no information about the terms of Sanders’ offer sheet, and that no other media outlets had confirmed the report.

According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, there’s a good reason for that: Sanders hasn’t actually signed an offer sheet with the Patriots. The Observer-Reporter also reported that Sanders left New England without signing.

The Patriots are still considering whether to make an offer to Sanders, which would require them to give the Steelers their third-round draft pick if they didn’t match the offer and allowed Sanders to go.

The Patriots have more cap space than the Steelers this season, so it wouldn’t be hard for New England to structure the contract in a way that makes for a big cap hit in 2013, which the Steelers would have a hard time matching. But if the Patriots add Sanders they’ll also lose their third-round draft pick. And they’ve already traded away their fourth-round pick for Aqib Talib, their fifth-round pick for Albert Haynesworth and their sixth-round pick for Chad Ochocinco.

Right now, the Patriots are still considering whether they want to give up a third-round pick for Sanders.

71 responses to “Not so fast on Emmanuel Sanders to New England

  1. If this goes through I think we can guarantee the Pats will trade out of the first round and pick up some mid round picks. There’s no way they’ll get through a whole draft with only 3 or 4 picks.

  2. Steelers have to match or better this offer… they have no youth behind him and they let Toney Clemons go last year… now im kinda worried about what direction they are taking!

  3. The fifth and sixth rd picks were obviously wastes. Sign Talib and Sanders and you get instant impact for a third and a fourth. Not bad at all.

  4. I’m guessing that they are trying to figure out if any WR’s available late in the 3rd round would be better than Emmanuel Sanders, and or have the kind of immediate impact that Sanders would. I’m guessing the answer is no. Then it just becomes a question of deciding if Sanders has the skill set they need to help transition from the Post-Welker offense.

    Assuming the Pats resign Volmer and Talib (or their CB and OL equivalent), they have a roster that would afford a season with just 4 draft picks. Personally I’d prefer they find someone who is bigger and stronger than Sanders…..and didn’t cost a draft pick. But then again, no one from the Pats FO has called to ask my opinion. lol

  5. Maybe, since the Pats are short picks this year, they’re talking trade with Pittsburgh instead, like they did with Welker in Miami. Say Pittsburgh doesn’t want to match, instead of a 3rd this yr, the Pats would give them a 3rd plus something else next yr. Just throwin it out there.

  6. Giving up a 3rd rounder is worth the risk to sign a young talent like Sanders. The Pats could use the depth at the WR position at the same stinging an AFC foe.

  7. They not gona wait till the 3rd round to draft a WR..atleast they shouldent And yes you can find better..Wasent Wallace 4th or 5th? Brown 6th? But why wait when u can get a Top 10 at #17..IRONICALLY Wallace’s old number.

  8. “do you honestly think you’ll draft someone better, especially at the wideout position, in the third round? SIGN HIM!”

    Considering he in fact is a third round pick I’d say yeah, there is a pretty good chance you find someone at least as good on the third round.

  9. PASS…PASSS…PASS….

    The Golden nugget of this draft: DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson,,6/1 215,,,Huge verticals,,climbs the ladder to take the ball away,,huge wingspan,,,makes the “move” after catch…..not a “flameburner”,,,good speed,,,excellent work ethic. I watched him play for 3 years at clemson, and he makes the best CB look silly. If they can shuffle or grab him…would be grand theft..for sure

  10. Manny is a hard worker, good teammate, and young with a TON of potential. If the Pats get him for a 3rd, then they got an awesome deal.

    Not sure the Steelers FO got this one right at all, and am starting to sour on recent moves and drafts.

    Huge win for the Patriots if they get him! (Huge fail for the Steelers FO too, IMHO)

  11. ravenouso says:
    Mar 16, 2013 7:50 AM
    Wow they gave up a whole lot for a whole lotta nothin. Those were Pioli type decisions.
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    Pioli was long gone when those decisions were made.

  12. So much for the myth Belicheck knows when to bring in a veteran to get another good year or two out of him. NE used to know how to accumulate draft picks. Past few years they’ve been squandering most of them. Now he’s looking to trade Mallett – whom they’ve yet to get anything out of.

  13. Since the lockout the value of 1st and 2nd rounders is more than late round picks. Longer control with more reasonable cost than per lockout.

    Also pats have youngest defense age wise since bilicheck took over

    Chance of 6/7th rounders making team is slim. Hence the trading of those picks

  14. Steelers have to match or better this offer… they have no youth behind him and they let Toney Clemons go last year… now im kinda worried about what direction they are taking!

    With all the spread offenses on college, WRs are a dime a dozen. Haley’s offense is not that complicated. NE’s on the other hand requires the WR to make a lot of the reads. That is why Chad Johnson rarely saw the field.

  15. I think half of the players the Pats pick up are just so no one else can have them. They pick them up and they ride the bench, but they figure that’s better than them playing for the other team. Now they are at a point where they can’t do that.

  16. Looks as if the Steelers are holding all the cards, …or the Cards (AZ) are holding all the Steelers (Pun intended).

    Either way, the Steelers win …as they are proven developers of wideouts!

    Pick up a Third round pick for Manny, …trade down in the first round, and draft best available.

    Regardless, of what happens here, the Steelers front office has an impeccable record. No need to question their moves.

  17. Some of you guys are correct, no offer sheet has been signed because the Pats are trying to workout a trade with Steelers.

    PS- I would not be surprised if Brandon Lloyd to Steelers is in the package

  18. Shouldn’t the Steelers have a decent first round draft pick? You know, cause they were 8-8 and DIDN’T make the playoffs. I saw a comment from a Pitt fan saying “at least they aren’t the Ravens…”

    You mean you wouldn’t have wanted to WIN the Super Bowl this year?

  19. wryly1 says:
    Now he’s looking to trade Mallett – whom they’ve yet to get anything out of.
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    Yeah….. there’s this guy, see, named Brady …. heard he’s pretty good himself.

    Moron, what exactly are they supposed to do, sit a Hall of Fame QB to see what his backup can do?????

  20. The bottom line……Pats will contend with what they have. They will not have a chance to win it all unless they resign Volmer and Talib AND land a speed burning deep threat to stretch the field…..Lloyd is not the answer nor is Jones……the question the FO has to answer IS Steward the man…..IMO he is NOT.

  21. I say they sign him. New England probably has like eight first round picks from all the trading down they do every year. They want to win another SB or two they need to grab some proven guys. I’m sure they will pick up some draft picks this year trading down as usual. I HATE New England (Raider fan here…tuck rule) but I respect that organization very much. They do smart football and Brady might be the best QB ever.

  22. NE used to know how to accumulate draft picks. Past few years they’ve been squandering most of them.
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    How do people upvote stuff like this? The past few years, the Patriots have made more picks than any team in the league.

    The Pats have one of the youngest teams in the NFL… that’s why Belichick was willing to give up 5th and 6th rounders for veterans. I mean really, how do you “waste” a 5th round pick?

    Please explain how guys like McCourty, Chandler Jones, Hernandez, Gronk, Dennard, Hightower, Spikes, Ridley, and Cunningham are squandered picks. Or Talib for that matter.

    Sorry, but the Pats are still one of the best teams in the league when it comes to drafting young talent. And that comment on Mallett is just ridiculous.

  23. If the Pats want Sanders take the Steelers will gladly take the 3rd rd pick this year. Steelers wil sign Steve Breaston or Darius Heyward-Bey to a reasonable FA deal and draft a receiver better than Sanders in the 3rd round.

    If the Pats are trying to work out a deal with the Steelers…..I don’t think that will happen.

  24. The pats are in a very difficult situation this year. It looks like all of the moves made the last two years are catching up on them and so are the dolphins. Hang tide Tom, this year ain’t gonna be easy.

  25. sschmiggles says:
    “The Pats have one of the youngest teams in the NFL… that’s why Belichick was willing to give up 5th and 6th rounders for veterans. I mean really, how do you “waste” a 5th round pick”?

    That’s a funny question for a Pat fan to ask considering the Pats got TOM BRADY with a 6th round pick.

  26. That’s a funny question for a Pat fan to ask considering the Pats got TOM BRADY with a 6th round pick.
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    Right, because teams totally draft hall of fame QBs with 6th round picks all the time.

    The percentage of draft picks below the third round who turn into starts is less than 20%. You ARE better off risking it on a veteran than some guy who might not even make it through camp.

  27. I can guarantee that the Patriots will deal off mallett for a 2nd or 3rd round pick if they end up signing Sanders. They already have teams interested. I agree they will find a way to get some more picks too…….San Fran has a whole lotta picks they can’t possibly use, so they’d be a logical trade partner,,,,,,,except they need just about nothing. LOL

  28. Whatever the outcome, I honestly believe it will be a wash in the end. Both organizations are class acts and know what they are doing. The Patriots are the one team I want the Steelers to beat in the playoffs. Raven fans have to feel the same way about the Steelers in the playoffs.

  29. As a Steelers fan, I see this as win/win for Steelers and Pats.

    Pats get an average player with a skill set that fits very nicely with what they do.

    Pittsburgh gets sn extra early pick to help fill needs.

    I agree that right now, these teams are working on a trade.

    Patriots get Sanders and Steelers 4th and 6th round picks, Steelers get Pats 1st round pick.

    Pittsburgh uses 2nd round pick on best available WR.

  30. charleythedinosaur says: Mar 16, 2013 7:39 AM

    If this goes through I think we can guarantee the Pats will trade out of the first round and pick up some mid round picks. There’s no way they’ll get through a whole draft with only 3 or 4 picks.
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    The 29th pick in the first round isn’t going to get them much in return if they try to trade out for more picks.

  31. Really? A 5th for Haynesworth and a 6th for Ochocinco, both have been out of the league for what, two seasons?

    So much for the brilliance of BB, eh chowds?

    Karma is rearing back and about to bite BB/ Kraft/tommy right on their smug, entitled arses. After what they did to welker, they deserve it.

    It’s going to be beautiful to watch.

  32. “zeavott says: Mar 16, 2013 9:58 AM

    Per the Patriots website, this is already a done-deal”
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    Not true- go back and read it. they have retracted the statement.

  33. The amount of incorrect information being disseminated this off season has to be a record.

    Is there anyone left in the media who believe that getting it right is more important than getting it first?

  34. CORRECTION…the Steelers are FAR worse than the Ravens. That defense is totally ancient and crumbling fast. No Harrison or Hampton and Polamalu is on his last leg. Lamarr Woodley is fat and out of shape and Roethlisberger has lost all his strength in his throwing shoulder. Without Sanders and Wallace they’d better give Hines Ward a call.

    Oh…and not to forget Heath Miller wont be the same for another year after that acl tear…that’s a TWO year injury.

    Oh…and who are the running backs? They have NONE.

  35. “Sorry, but the Pats are still one of the best teams in the league when it comes to drafting young talent.”
    Seriously? Belicheat is a horrible drafter. He struck gold with Brady years ago and has been living on that since. Out of the 28 picks they’ve had the last 3 years, how many are still with Pats or starting for another team now? Give me a break. With Welker gone now, you’ll see just how good Brady is. This is the first time he hasn’t had Welker or the benefit of video taping the other team just before the SB. Wait…….they aren’t even going to win the AFC East this year! bwahahahahahaha

  36. Yeah you guys are right…..afc championship last year and another Superbowl appearance two years ago. Given bb has made some goofs…..but to pounce on him and infer that he doesn’t know what he’s doing because of the late round picks given up for Ocho and fat Albert is ridiculous. He knows what he’s doing….your dislike for him doesn’t change that.

  37. Attention Steelers fans:
    Sanders was average in Pittsburgh because he played with an average quarterback on a below average offense (22nd in scoring two years in a row). With Brady and a No. 1 scoring offense, sky is the limit for Sanders, who is young and I suspect hungry for success.
    Something that’s been lost in Pittsburgh the past five years is that offenses are responsible for scoring points, preferably touchdowns. That’s how offenses and quarterbacks are judged.

  38. Those steel towers are crumbling. Pittsburgh fans must be nervous. They are about to go into another black hole for a decade.

  39. The “patriot way” = they got lottery lucky drafting Brady in the 6 th rd, and look at all of these other drafting mistakes
    PIOLI ? Are you kidding me ?
    Wow

  40. Its funny to see the patriots having a lack of draft picks. Even funnier seeing that it’s because of those two busts but could you imagine if either of those players played even near to their potential? Belichek would have looked like a genius; the exception being Aqib Talib who played fairly well considering how absolutely horrid the pass rush and safety play was all year.

    This class of receivers is deep with receivers in my opinion. Patterson, Austin and Allen will be off the board before the Pats pick unless they trade up, but i think they’ll trade down into the early/mid second where prospects are abound. Hunter could be a steal, Hopkins doesn’t have great speed but boy is he nice to watch. Then you have Bailey, Woods and Williams who will be available in the mid-late 2nd to early 3rd at the latest. Then there is a more marked drop-off with Swope and Wheatley – both of whom i think have definite 3rd round value but no higher. The patriots could use Swopes speed instead of drafting Sanders to stretch the field… but do they want to? Sanders is a much better player but also much more expensive. It comes down to cap issues, regardless of who NE wants to structure Sanders, he will be expensive.

  41. @ bobzilla,

    Good luck convincing people of that. I have the same problem convincing people that my team’s OFFENSE is the reason they fail in the playoffs since 07. When your D is average, and performs to about that same average in the playoffs points wise but your offense scores 10-15 fewer points per game in the playoffs how in the world is it your defense’s fault? Nevertheless, people continue to blame the Pats defense.

    BB respects the Steelers and he won’t try to get one over on them. I would expect they will do a trade for Sanders if all parties are amenable. Just like they did for division rival Miami with Welker.

  42. how can anyone view Emanuel Sanders as worthy of a 3rd round pick!? The Steelers are in a dire situation, if they could get a 3rd rounder for an average WR like Sanders, by all means. The Patriots would be hosed in this trade

    Remember just a month ago, everyone on this board was convinced Percy Harvin could be had for a 3rd. Now you think Sanders is worth one?

  43. What all you geniuses are forgetting is that sure, Sanders is worth a 3rd round pick, but the pats wouldnt be paying him as a pick- theyd be paying him as a free agent.

    If they kept the pick, they could pick up a player who will be on their books for the next three years at a minimum salary hit. You NEED those types of players if you want to keep your cap under control. You cant keep on scooping up free agents at 5 million a year- its unsustainable. Especially for a guy whose is going to be their 4th receiving option at best.

  44. The Pats missed on Boldin when the Harbaugh brothers schemed together to send him to the 49ers so the Ravens got something instead just cutting him. And the 49ers just got the real Super Bowl MVP.

    The Pats might as well grab Sanders because the odds that they will acquire someone better is slim.

  45. The pats are probably just waiting to see where their salary cap stands in a week, they still have UFAs to worry about (Vollmer, Freeny or Abraham, maybe another corner), no sense in rushing into sanders he’ll still be there 2-3 weeks from now when everyone else is off the market.

    And who knows maybe they work out a trade for sanders that works out for both parties (maybe two picks from next years draft instead of 1 for this one so the cupboard isn’t so bare).

  46. zeavott says: Mar 16, 2013 9:58 AM

    Per the Patriots website, this is already a done-deal
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    You should stay in school, kid. You might learn how to read an article. You posted this garbage AFTER they’d retracted the first claim. I wish this site would ban kids under 21 and mental midgets w/ IQs under 120.

  47. why exactly is it that people free the Steelers have to match the Pats offer. this guy misses a lot of time and is a small receiver who drops key passes. if I were the Steelers I would be begging the Pats to sign him and take that that 3rd rd pk and go get a big receiver to use in the redzone who can actually catch the ball.

  48. heys scoobies<
    Ravens don't want to get old? That's why they let go of "old guys" like Ellerbee, Kruger and Williams?
    And signed "young" 30 year old players like Spears and Canty???
    Ravens fans making light of other people's cap issues is laughable. Fact is the defense sucked last year and they are tyring to rebuild that mess.

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