Comments on: PFT Planet poll: The Jim Schwartz rule

By: eightandeightlions

eightandeightlions — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:48:42 +0000

The rule is not entirely perfect, but the outrage over how teams were “cheated” out of a touchdown needs to stop. That is 1000% on the coach, especially for a recent rule change. If a field goal is changed to only score two points in the off season, and a coach down three opts to kick a FG with time running out are we going to complain about the rule change only when some nitwit can’t remember that it changed? These rules are approved in the off season by the competition committee, which is made up of the actual team representatives. I would have fired Jim Schwartz, Mike Smith, and Mike McCarthy if I was the owner last season. A coach has NO excuse once the season starts. Nothing rise to say here..

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:43:47 +0000

That rule sucks.

By: WatchThis

WatchThis — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:22:38 +0000

Basically, 910 Texan fans voted no.

By: souldogdave

souldogdave — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 23:11:59 +0000

bad rule. smith,you suck.

By: suhisbetterthanu

suhisbetterthanu — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 22:28:07 +0000

Scrap it. Worst rule ever

By: dkinphx

dkinphx — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:49:33 +0000

Last line of previous post should have said ” I can’t “BELIEVE” NFL officials aren’t screaming to get rid of this stupid rule.”

oops.

By: dkinphx

dkinphx — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:46:22 +0000

Here’s the thing…

The point it to get it right. Losing the replay review when you inadvertently throw the red flag is unsportsmanlike conduct. That’s one reason to get rid of the rule.

It’s also unsportsmanlike to assess a delay of game penalty when, in fact, the game is already delayed, BY RULE, in scoring situations. How is it even possible to delay a game that is already delayed? Automatic review of scoring plays makes this rule obsolete. Reason number two to get rid of this rule.

Finally, given the inconsistency of NFL officials, it makes some sense that a coach should protect the possibility of review in these situations since you can’t always depend on officials to follow the rules. What happens if some day they’re all asleep at the wheel and forget to do a review of the score? I know it’s unlikely but then look at the “tuck rule” they put in place to cover an obvious botched call. Imagine the rule they’d put in place to cover a botched review. Third reason to get rid of this rule. Three strikes and you’re out of there officials.

I can’t NFL officials aren’t screaming to get rid of this stupid rule.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:39:52 +0000

wattsrmyline says:Mar 17, 2013 1:35 PM

Those must be Obama voters that vote NOT SURE
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I don’t know. One of them was talking about wearing magic underwear and only paying a 12% effective tax rate on a $20 million income. I’d bet that your tax rate was higher.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:29:52 +0000

Two things should come out of that Thanksgiving game where the Lions were robbed of a victory.

Firstly, almost everyone agrees that the rule should change to include an automatic review, especially after such an egregiously blown call, regardless of what the victimized coach does.

Secondly, Coach Schwartz knew the rule yet still threw the flag in a state of anger. Hopefully he’s learned to control his emotions, regardless of the severity of the erroneous calls that are made.

By: bmosh99

bmosh99 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:28:22 +0000

I’m surprised that 9% of the people actually voted for not getting the call on the field correct. I don’t understand why you would even bother watching the NFL if you care more about the officials feelings and not getting “shown up” than the call on the field being correct

By: thegreatgabbert

thegreatgabbert — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:05:33 +0000

It’s actually the “Dumb As Jim Schwartz” rule. They may change the rule but Schwartz will still be dumb.

By: racksie

racksie — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:54:14 +0000

How about a Harbaugh rule, that stipulates when you keep throwing the red flag when you have used all your timeouts, and the refs keep giving you the review, you get banned from ever throwing a tantrum on camera ever again?

By: raoool

raoool — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:46:53 +0000

Only the NFL could come up with a rule that says human (coach) error can render useless the (replay) system designed to reduce human (ref)error.

By: skinsfan4

skinsfan4 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:44:10 +0000

Who are the 9% in the poll who are morons and don’t think the rule should be changed? It’s an idiotic rule to begin with.

By: EJ

EJ — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:30:36 +0000

With the amount of money that the NFL makes, there is no reason at all to have a botched call. With technology being so high tech these days, the league should have an amazing camera setup at every venue that captures every angle on every play. No reason for slip-ups today.

By: vmannj

vmannj — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:24:20 +0000

It’s obviously a stupid rule. But how many of you, like myself, LOVED watching this arrogant jerk Schwartz squirm? Especially after his “know the F—–NG rules!” outburst towards Harbaugh in 2011.

By: jerrygray721

jerrygray721 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:46:44 +0000

i think the rule needs to go.as for some posters here saying they get a free time out i’m puzzled by it because if they were going to review it anyway thats pretty much the same as a time out anyway.now i do feel there should be atleast a loss of time out if the flag were thrown and the play was not reviewable.

By: takingbovadasmoney

takingbovadasmoney — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:45:53 +0000

C’mon, the rule doesn’t need to be changed. You don’t see good, smart coaches like Jim Harbaugh or Mike McCarthy make the mistake.

By: lorddarkhelmet

lorddarkhelmet — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:37:07 +0000

because Schwartz was the only one to ever do this. Its crazy how common it is/was, the only thing different is the refs actually called him on it (usually they make the coach pick up the flag) and this time it cost the team a game. Glad the rule will be changed.

By: Ponsonby_Britt

Ponsonby_Britt — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:27:13 +0000

Change the rule, and the head coach, and maybe the Lions won’t get jobbed in ’13.

By: jebdamone

jebdamone — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:22:23 +0000

the people that have made the argument its a free timeout please explain yourselves. if the play is going to be reviewed anyway, how does the throwing of a challenge flag affect the timing situation at all? its as simple as
1) throw the challenge flag 2) see that the play is under review anyway 3) pick up the challenge flag 4) wait for the play to be reviewed.

at what point is the coach getting a free timeout?

By: zeekey2013

zeekey2013 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:17:21 +0000

I don’t even like the lions but I was so mad how his knee was clearly on the ground but they would review it because he threw a challenge flag

By: jebdamone

jebdamone — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:14:35 +0000

that was one of the most preposterous calls i have ever seen. it was also further made preposterous by the fact that later in the season (can’t remember what game) the exact same thing happened and the refs ignored the rule.

By: warhammer420

warhammer420 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:05:15 +0000

The only thing that matters is getting the call right. This rule is asinine.

By: doublezero74

doublezero74 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:04:56 +0000

Rule change is totally needed. This is a smart move to change that. It’s about getting the call right. 15 yard penalty for being a dumbass coach but the play needs to be right no matter how unlucky Detriots fan vase is by having Schwartz be their coach

By: filthymcnasty1

filthymcnasty1 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:59:54 +0000

Nice legacy, Schwartzie.

By: Stiller43

Stiller43 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:59:07 +0000

Bennyb82,

What about contact with other players? Those sensors would go off all the time…unless you had something on the playing surface to differentiate the contact delivered to the pads…seems impossible

By: souldogdave

souldogdave — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:56:31 +0000

The Coach that throws the redundant flag should be penalized AFTER the resolution of the original challenge.Anything else is stupid, what were they thinking? Delay of game or something is appropriate.Giving the Texans the td was thievery at the very least.And I can’t stand Schwartz he’s an idiot, but he was scapegoated and they were cheated.

By: Stiller43

Stiller43 — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:55:43 +0000

No punishment should turn a blind eye to what the correct call is/should be. Its ludacris it was even put into existence without any forsight to see potential issues.

By: flickaboogie

flickaboogie — Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:53:35 +0000

The main problem was how the rule was enforced. I’ve seen games where coaches threw the red flag and never got penalized and some get penalized. If they are going to write a rule, make it so even the dumbest coach or ref knows how to interpret it.