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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2414383</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nofoolnodrool ...

Thank you. I&#039;ll leave him to you :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nofoolnodrool &#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you. I&#8217;ll leave him to you <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nofoolnodrool</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2414022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nofoolnodrool]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have enjoyedDeb calling the pompous Bobzilla out. She is not the one needing therapy. Her only bias appears to be her devotion to the Tide and often is the voice of logic and reason on this thread and others I have had the pleasure of reading. Her gender should not be an issue and her opinion is respected by this poster. Bobzilla quit with some dignity still left....I await the sarcastic reply soon to follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyedDeb calling the pompous Bobzilla out. She is not the one needing therapy. Her only bias appears to be her devotion to the Tide and often is the voice of logic and reason on this thread and others I have had the pleasure of reading. Her gender should not be an issue and her opinion is respected by this poster. Bobzilla quit with some dignity still left&#8230;.I await the sarcastic reply soon to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have posted four, maybe five times in my life on the college site. Each time my comments were regarding Joe Paterno.
Deb, you need some therapy.
Honest to God!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have posted four, maybe five times in my life on the college site. Each time my comments were regarding Joe Paterno.<br />
Deb, you need some therapy.<br />
Honest to God!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ravenator ...

Glad I could entertain you for a change ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ravenator &#8230;</p>
<p>Glad I could entertain you for a change <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 20:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, dear. It was very respectful when you rolled in here and slammed me for giving women a bad name because I said bobzilla has been posting sexist comments at me for &lt;em&gt;years&lt;/em&gt;. Oh ... so you weren&#039;t talking about the vicious rape comments when you said that? WELL, I WAS. That&#039;s why I said you had no idea what the conversation was about. Clearly, that has gone over your head time and time again. 

Through the years, bobzilla has had dozens of chances to behave like an adult both here and on the college site but chose to behave like a jerk--just as he behaved like a jerk when I answered his question with an adult response above. You didn&#039;t know any of that when you attacked me without provocation--nor do you care that you attacked me without provocation. You just keep whining and sucking your paw because I slapped at it. Maybe next time you&#039;ll learn to stay out of something that doesn&#039;t concern you. But since you keep painting yourself as a victim (and giving all women a bad name :roll: ) I doubt it. And since learning doesn&#039;t seem to be in your skill set, yes, let&#039;s cancel classes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, dear. It was very respectful when you rolled in here and slammed me for giving women a bad name because I said bobzilla has been posting sexist comments at me for <em>years</em>. Oh &#8230; so you weren&#8217;t talking about the vicious rape comments when you said that? WELL, I WAS. That&#8217;s why I said you had no idea what the conversation was about. Clearly, that has gone over your head time and time again. </p>
<p>Through the years, bobzilla has had dozens of chances to behave like an adult both here and on the college site but chose to behave like a jerk&#8211;just as he behaved like a jerk when I answered his question with an adult response above. You didn&#8217;t know any of that when you attacked me without provocation&#8211;nor do you care that you attacked me without provocation. You just keep whining and sucking your paw because I slapped at it. Maybe next time you&#8217;ll learn to stay out of something that doesn&#8217;t concern you. But since you keep painting yourself as a victim (and giving all women a bad name <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  ) I doubt it. And since learning doesn&#8217;t seem to be in your skill set, yes, let&#8217;s cancel classes.</p>
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		<title>By: ravenator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ravenator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How about you ladies stop bickering, bow down to the ravens franchise, and go make me a casserole. Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about you ladies stop bickering, bow down to the ravens franchise, and go make me a casserole. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem to think l was unaware of the conversation l do know what was said. And l wasn&#039;t referring to the fact you were a rape victim.  
You seem to take comments that are posted in reply to yours as a personal attack against you. 
If you gave Bobzilla a chance and viewed his opinions as just that opinions not attacks, you would see he does have a lot of knowledge of the steelers. 
I&#039;m not going to argue with you further, l have my opinion you have yours based on our own experiences and knowledge. I try and respect others opinions and don&#039;t insinuate that they are idiots if their opinion is different from mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to think l was unaware of the conversation l do know what was said. And l wasn&#8217;t referring to the fact you were a rape victim.<br />
You seem to take comments that are posted in reply to yours as a personal attack against you.<br />
If you gave Bobzilla a chance and viewed his opinions as just that opinions not attacks, you would see he does have a lot of knowledge of the steelers.<br />
I&#8217;m not going to argue with you further, l have my opinion you have yours based on our own experiences and knowledge. I try and respect others opinions and don&#8217;t insinuate that they are idiots if their opinion is different from mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did it make you feel better about yourself to attack me out of the clear blue nowhere and say I give real women a bad name without having any idea the vile things this jackass has said to me on this site and on the college site? You conveniently want to forget that YOU are the one who picked this fight, little girl. I&#039;m not Miss Perfect. And I don&#039;t go around attacking other people for absolutely no reason. It&#039;s not much fun to be a rape survivor talking about rape and having a vicious jerk saying you&#039;re sniffing after a rapist just because he&#039;s a quarterback. You had no idea what was going on here. The guy is a dog. You chose to lay down with a dog. Live with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did it make you feel better about yourself to attack me out of the clear blue nowhere and say I give real women a bad name without having any idea the vile things this jackass has said to me on this site and on the college site? You conveniently want to forget that YOU are the one who picked this fight, little girl. I&#8217;m not Miss Perfect. And I don&#8217;t go around attacking other people for absolutely no reason. It&#8217;s not much fun to be a rape survivor talking about rape and having a vicious jerk saying you&#8217;re sniffing after a rapist just because he&#8217;s a quarterback. You had no idea what was going on here. The guy is a dog. You chose to lay down with a dog. Live with it.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why thank you for the correction Miss perfect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you for the correction Miss perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did that make you feel better about yourself to attack my intelligence ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did that make you feel better about yourself to attack my intelligence ?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And it&#039;s &quot;than us,&quot; genius :roll:

Yes, I&#039;m sure I&#039;m older than you, mentally speaking. But on the bright side ... you&#039;re perfect for one another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s &#8220;than us,&#8221; genius <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m older than you, mentally speaking. But on the bright side &#8230; you&#8217;re perfect for one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413064</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forgive me for addressing you as an adult human being. But thank you for making my argument. Now you and the babe with the double-digit IQ have a nice life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me for addressing you as an adult human being. But thank you for making my argument. Now you and the babe with the double-digit IQ have a nice life.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2413052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is geritol Bob obviously she must be older then us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is geritol Bob obviously she must be older then us?</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2412925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn.
I&#039;m sorry. did you just say thing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnn.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry. did you just say thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2412626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh ... hey, bob. Almost forgot about you with the gnat in my ear. 

My comments are as football-based as yours, and you know it. In fact, I&#039;ve often agreed with your take on various issues. But you persist in referring to me as a Roethlisberger groupie when I&#039;ve often been one of his biggest critics. My own experiences as a rape survivor, writer of medical research books, writer who has covered court cases, and someone who read every document and had the added benefit of access to people involved in the case allowed me to thoroughly break down and discuss the evidence. That has nothing to do with being an apologist--a silly and demeaning description for someone taking a serious approach to a situation. 

And yes, I found your comments on those issues sexist. Rape survivors don&#039;t discuss rape cases in serious, clinical terms because they have a &quot;crush&quot; on the athlete involved. I&#039;m not 12. It was and remains a serious matter. Roethlisberger isn&#039;t my favorite person, but that doesn&#039;t make him guilty of a sex crime when the &lt;em&gt;evidence&lt;/em&gt; says otherwise. I wish you&#039;d just grow up and stick to the game instead of assuming &lt;em&gt;anyone&lt;/em&gt; who tries to take a &lt;em&gt;balanced&lt;/em&gt; approach to assessing our quarterback must be a giddy fan. I have many issues with Roethlisberger. The difference between us is that I can also see that he &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; have some strengths.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8230; hey, bob. Almost forgot about you with the gnat in my ear. </p>
<p>My comments are as football-based as yours, and you know it. In fact, I&#8217;ve often agreed with your take on various issues. But you persist in referring to me as a Roethlisberger groupie when I&#8217;ve often been one of his biggest critics. My own experiences as a rape survivor, writer of medical research books, writer who has covered court cases, and someone who read every document and had the added benefit of access to people involved in the case allowed me to thoroughly break down and discuss the evidence. That has nothing to do with being an apologist&#8211;a silly and demeaning description for someone taking a serious approach to a situation. </p>
<p>And yes, I found your comments on those issues sexist. Rape survivors don&#8217;t discuss rape cases in serious, clinical terms because they have a &#8220;crush&#8221; on the athlete involved. I&#8217;m not 12. It was and remains a serious matter. Roethlisberger isn&#8217;t my favorite person, but that doesn&#8217;t make him guilty of a sex crime when the <em>evidence</em> says otherwise. I wish you&#8217;d just grow up and stick to the game instead of assuming <em>anyone</em> who tries to take a <em>balanced</em> approach to assessing our quarterback must be a giddy fan. I have many issues with Roethlisberger. The difference between us is that I can also see that he <em>does</em> have some strengths.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2412540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never let it be said I&#039;d try to read your mind, dear. With the total lack of punctuation, it&#039;s difficult enough to read your posts. Have a nice day :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never let it be said I&#8217;d try to read your mind, dear. With the total lack of punctuation, it&#8217;s difficult enough to read your posts. Have a nice day <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb:
We both know you&#039;re not playing cards? For once, please cite some examples. In fact, I challenge you to give examples of my alleged ``sexism&#039;&#039; towards you. 
I treat you the same as I treat anyone who offers zero facts to substantiate absurd and inaccurate opinions. I don&#039;t discriminate. 
Just for the record, I&#039;ve been on and off this site approximately three years. I checked in for the first time during Roethlisberger&#039;s inability to keep himself under control in public places.
Once I saw that you were PFT&#039;s resident expert apologist on all things Big Ben, I decided to take a long hiatus. I returned just prior to the 2012 season.
As for my age: What the hell is ``Geritol&#039;&#039;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb:<br />
We both know you&#8217;re not playing cards? For once, please cite some examples. In fact, I challenge you to give examples of my alleged &#8220;sexism&#8221; towards you.<br />
I treat you the same as I treat anyone who offers zero facts to substantiate absurd and inaccurate opinions. I don&#8217;t discriminate.<br />
Just for the record, I&#8217;ve been on and off this site approximately three years. I checked in for the first time during Roethlisberger&#8217;s inability to keep himself under control in public places.<br />
Once I saw that you were PFT&#8217;s resident expert apologist on all things Big Ben, I decided to take a long hiatus. I returned just prior to the 2012 season.<br />
As for my age: What the hell is &#8220;Geritol&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2411796</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 04:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lmao i dont have to ingratiate myself to any man and its funny how you say l dont know anything of what bobzilla has said he just calls it as he sees it , your the one that seems to take everything as an attack against you .  Ive been following bobzillas comments for some time and i respect the fact that he doesnt sugar coat things.  I know your type as its obvious in your posts you can make a comment but no one better comment negatively on it or you think they are attacking you when they are just voicing their opinion. You seem to be a mind reader as you seem to know a lot about what im thinking]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lmao i dont have to ingratiate myself to any man and its funny how you say l dont know anything of what bobzilla has said he just calls it as he sees it , your the one that seems to take everything as an attack against you .  Ive been following bobzillas comments for some time and i respect the fact that he doesnt sugar coat things.  I know your type as its obvious in your posts you can make a comment but no one better comment negatively on it or you think they are attacking you when they are just voicing their opinion. You seem to be a mind reader as you seem to know a lot about what im thinking</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@steelerbabe ...

No, you were not stating a fact based on my comment. You were stating an &lt;em&gt;opinion&lt;/em&gt; based on my comment. And &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; were the one who assumed you knew &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; about &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; the &lt;em&gt;previous&lt;/em&gt; discussions with bobzilla that I was characterizing as chauvinistic. &lt;em&gt;You&lt;/em&gt; were the one who assumed none of those discussions had been chavinistic but had only been simple differences of opinion--and you decided this with &lt;em&gt;no evidence&lt;/em&gt; whatsoever. Then &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; decided to insert yourself into a conversation that had nothing to do with you, call me out, accuse me of playing the victim--when I am no one&#039;s victim--and tell me I give women a bad name.

You had no idea what was being discussed here and simply wanted to call out another woman for the sake of ingratiating yourself to the boys on the football blog. Mission accomplished. Now, babe, please stop wasting my time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@steelerbabe &#8230;</p>
<p>No, you were not stating a fact based on my comment. You were stating an <em>opinion</em> based on my comment. And <em>you</em> were the one who assumed you knew <em>everything</em> about <em>all</em> the <em>previous</em> discussions with bobzilla that I was characterizing as chauvinistic. <em>You</em> were the one who assumed none of those discussions had been chavinistic but had only been simple differences of opinion&#8211;and you decided this with <em>no evidence</em> whatsoever. Then <em>you</em> decided to insert yourself into a conversation that had nothing to do with you, call me out, accuse me of playing the victim&#8211;when I am no one&#8217;s victim&#8211;and tell me I give women a bad name.</p>
<p>You had no idea what was being discussed here and simply wanted to call out another woman for the sake of ingratiating yourself to the boys on the football blog. Mission accomplished. Now, babe, please stop wasting my time.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2411666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just because i havent replied on much doesnt mean i dont know whats been said dont assume you know me, as you seem to think you know everything about everything. 
I was just stating a fact based on your comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just because i havent replied on much doesnt mean i dont know whats been said dont assume you know me, as you seem to think you know everything about everything.<br />
I was just stating a fact based on your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2411612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, bob, we both know I&#039;m not playing cards and am making the same observation male Steelers fans have made regarding your condescending comments toward my posts. But you have a groupie now who thinks old racist dudes it&#039;s naughty when women call out the old sexist/racist dudes. Bet that&#039;s hit you like a dose of Geritol! Enjoy your night LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, bob, we both know I&#8217;m not playing cards and am making the same observation male Steelers fans have made regarding your condescending comments toward my posts. But you have a groupie now who thinks old racist dudes it&#8217;s naughty when women call out the old sexist/racist dudes. Bet that&#8217;s hit you like a dose of Geritol! Enjoy your night LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2411591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 01:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[steelerbabe ...

Well, &lt;em&gt;babe&lt;/em&gt;, as I said, the guy has been dogging me for four years. You just popped in without having any idea what the conversation was about or what I was referencing. Stupid babes who jump in to defend the guys without having any knowledge of the conversation&#039;s context also give women a bad name. But thanks for your input. :roll:]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steelerbabe &#8230;</p>
<p>Well, <em>babe</em>, as I said, the guy has been dogging me for four years. You just popped in without having any idea what the conversation was about or what I was referencing. Stupid babes who jump in to defend the guys without having any knowledge of the conversation&#8217;s context also give women a bad name. But thanks for your input. <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steelerbabe</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2411093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steelerbabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 22:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deb what does disagreeing with somebody have to do with being a sexist?
You so called victimized women give us real woman a bad name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb what does disagreeing with somebody have to do with being a sexist?<br />
You so called victimized women give us real woman a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2410927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop playing the ``gender card.&#039;&#039; I couldn&#039;t care less what your gender is. 
If you are unwilling or incapable of conducting an intelligent discussion without personal attacks, then don&#039;t read my posts.
I have no interest in ``dogging&#039;&#039; you, whatever that means, but if I have something to say, I&#039;m going to say it.
I can assure you that Internet doesn&#039;t do the drama and chaos that Roethlisberger provides justice. 
Soon, Roethlisberger will be finally ``reined in&#039;&#039; ... once his obscene contract expires. The Steelers are in no position to continue to pay an average quarterback of a below average offense elite-like money.
By the way: How many Notre Dame players have the Rooneys drafted in your lifetime? That was one of your more laughable comments...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop playing the &#8220;gender card.&#8221; I couldn&#8217;t care less what your gender is.<br />
If you are unwilling or incapable of conducting an intelligent discussion without personal attacks, then don&#8217;t read my posts.<br />
I have no interest in &#8220;dogging&#8221; you, whatever that means, but if I have something to say, I&#8217;m going to say it.<br />
I can assure you that Internet doesn&#8217;t do the drama and chaos that Roethlisberger provides justice.<br />
Soon, Roethlisberger will be finally &#8220;reined in&#8221; &#8230; once his obscene contract expires. The Steelers are in no position to continue to pay an average quarterback of a below average offense elite-like money.<br />
By the way: How many Notre Dame players have the Rooneys drafted in your lifetime? That was one of your more laughable comments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2410230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bobzilla ...

You&#039;ve been dogging my posts on this site for at least four years, and when another commenter called you on your neverending chauvenism, you posted some idiotic nonsense about him sending me a valentine. That simply underscored your sexism. You&#039;ve repeatedly made clear the only people you consider qualified to be fans--or coaches--for the Steelers are old white males.

Grow up. Without fans, there are no teams, and if some of us choose to refer to ourselves as part of the collective, it has nothing to do with our knowledge of the sport--or with you. No one in the Steelers ownership or coaching staff reined in Roethlisberger before Tomlin came along--something Jerome Bettis lamented publicly when he left the organization. But suddenly Tomlin is to blame for all his behavior and the problem is that he needs to grow a pair.

Many longtime, loyal fans live outside Pittsburgh. They have this thing now called the Internet--perhaps you&#039;ve heard of it. We can all read the Pittsburgh papers, watch local newscasts, and keep up with our team just as well as you can. Of course, we don&#039;t all pretend we&#039;re sitting in the locker room the way you do. But that has nothing to do with living in Pittsburgh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobzilla &#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been dogging my posts on this site for at least four years, and when another commenter called you on your neverending chauvenism, you posted some idiotic nonsense about him sending me a valentine. That simply underscored your sexism. You&#8217;ve repeatedly made clear the only people you consider qualified to be fans&#8211;or coaches&#8211;for the Steelers are old white males.</p>
<p>Grow up. Without fans, there are no teams, and if some of us choose to refer to ourselves as part of the collective, it has nothing to do with our knowledge of the sport&#8211;or with you. No one in the Steelers ownership or coaching staff reined in Roethlisberger before Tomlin came along&#8211;something Jerome Bettis lamented publicly when he left the organization. But suddenly Tomlin is to blame for all his behavior and the problem is that he needs to grow a pair.</p>
<p>Many longtime, loyal fans live outside Pittsburgh. They have this thing now called the Internet&#8211;perhaps you&#8217;ve heard of it. We can all read the Pittsburgh papers, watch local newscasts, and keep up with our team just as well as you can. Of course, we don&#8217;t all pretend we&#8217;re sitting in the locker room the way you do. But that has nothing to do with living in Pittsburgh.</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2409911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All knowing?
Here&#039;s what I do know: Coaches have NOTHING to do with contractual agreements, especially ones that are designed to protect idiots from themselves. Ownership and agents iron out those kinds of things.
Secondly, if you actually lived in Pittsburgh, you might know the choas and drama Roethlisberger&#039;s even slightest of comments about Haley cause among the local media and regional fanbase. They want him fired because they believe that would please their beloved SuperBen.
Tomlin should grow a pair and simply tell Roethlisberger to ``shut up.&#039;&#039;  Not complicated.
Finally, please don&#039;t concern yourself with my depth. Anyone who constantly refers to the Steelers as ``we&#039;&#039; without being on their payroll is laughable and unqualified to participate any kind of an objective or unbiased discussion regarding the team, players, coaches and organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All knowing?<br />
Here&#8217;s what I do know: Coaches have NOTHING to do with contractual agreements, especially ones that are designed to protect idiots from themselves. Ownership and agents iron out those kinds of things.<br />
Secondly, if you actually lived in Pittsburgh, you might know the choas and drama Roethlisberger&#8217;s even slightest of comments about Haley cause among the local media and regional fanbase. They want him fired because they believe that would please their beloved SuperBen.<br />
Tomlin should grow a pair and simply tell Roethlisberger to &#8220;shut up.&#8221;  Not complicated.<br />
Finally, please don&#8217;t concern yourself with my depth. Anyone who constantly refers to the Steelers as &#8220;we&#8221; without being on their payroll is laughable and unqualified to participate any kind of an objective or unbiased discussion regarding the team, players, coaches and organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2409061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 02:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, bobzilla, NFL coaches are not babysitters. However, NFL teams can &lt;em&gt;and do&lt;/em&gt; insert clauses into player contracts governing issues such as whether or not players are required to wear helmets when riding motorcycles. Someone so all-knowing should know that. Cowher repeatedly asked Roethlisberger to wear his helmet. He/they should have made that a contractual requirement with financial penalties.

On the other hand, Tomlin is not responsible for Roethlisberger&#039;s passive-aggressive comments regarding Haley&#039;s offense. He hasn&#039;t said anything blatantly explosive. Yet you harp on that nonstop. As usual, if it happened on Cowher&#039;s watch, well ... these things happen. If it happened on Tomlin&#039;s it&#039;s cause for dismissal.

And do not tell me how I&#039;d react if Tomlin were fired. If the Rooney&#039;s fired Tomlin right now, I&#039;d be upset to see they&#039;d suddenly started peeing their pants over one season missing the playoffs. Do not presume to think you can gauge how I feel about anything. You don&#039;t have the depth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, bobzilla, NFL coaches are not babysitters. However, NFL teams can <em>and do</em> insert clauses into player contracts governing issues such as whether or not players are required to wear helmets when riding motorcycles. Someone so all-knowing should know that. Cowher repeatedly asked Roethlisberger to wear his helmet. He/they should have made that a contractual requirement with financial penalties.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Tomlin is not responsible for Roethlisberger&#8217;s passive-aggressive comments regarding Haley&#8217;s offense. He hasn&#8217;t said anything blatantly explosive. Yet you harp on that nonstop. As usual, if it happened on Cowher&#8217;s watch, well &#8230; these things happen. If it happened on Tomlin&#8217;s it&#8217;s cause for dismissal.</p>
<p>And do not tell me how I&#8217;d react if Tomlin were fired. If the Rooney&#8217;s fired Tomlin right now, I&#8217;d be upset to see they&#8217;d suddenly started peeing their pants over one season missing the playoffs. Do not presume to think you can gauge how I feel about anything. You don&#8217;t have the depth.</p>
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		<title>By: stillerreaper13</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2408957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stillerreaper13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 01:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ive never been a big fan of Mike Tomlin. He has yet to prove to me hes a worthy NFL head coach. He makes poor situational decisions, is afraid to disagree or challenge his coordinators decisions, he says things publicly that should be said in the office only, and tries to speak smarter than he is. Also, theres such a thing of being too much of a players coach, and I think hes it. As for the public comment thing, he publicly said today that they must pick up a running back in FA. Its probably true, but its not something you say outside of your office when you have 2 backs on the roster already that youre expecting to battle for a starting job. He might as well said Dwyer and Redman are worthless. Also, you wouldnt make a play for Stephen Jackson, youre scared of Beanie Wells&#039; knee, and you went ftom the Ahmad Bradshaw front runner to having zero interest in 24hrs. I agree you have to draft a RB, but whos going to mentor him? Are you expecting the the two guys you subliminally dissed publicly to step up and do it? How can that be if you still need a FA back? Fact is, I think Tomlin has gotten by thus far on a team that was built before his arrival, and now that team is no more. We shall see your true colors this year. So far im not a bit impressed. And to those who say he didnt win with Cowhers players are morons. Every one of the key players on his &#039;08 Super Bowl team were Cowhers decision to draft or sign. I have a feeling the trend of Steeler coaches lasting 10yrs or more is about to end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive never been a big fan of Mike Tomlin. He has yet to prove to me hes a worthy NFL head coach. He makes poor situational decisions, is afraid to disagree or challenge his coordinators decisions, he says things publicly that should be said in the office only, and tries to speak smarter than he is. Also, theres such a thing of being too much of a players coach, and I think hes it. As for the public comment thing, he publicly said today that they must pick up a running back in FA. Its probably true, but its not something you say outside of your office when you have 2 backs on the roster already that youre expecting to battle for a starting job. He might as well said Dwyer and Redman are worthless. Also, you wouldnt make a play for Stephen Jackson, youre scared of Beanie Wells&#8217; knee, and you went ftom the Ahmad Bradshaw front runner to having zero interest in 24hrs. I agree you have to draft a RB, but whos going to mentor him? Are you expecting the the two guys you subliminally dissed publicly to step up and do it? How can that be if you still need a FA back? Fact is, I think Tomlin has gotten by thus far on a team that was built before his arrival, and now that team is no more. We shall see your true colors this year. So far im not a bit impressed. And to those who say he didnt win with Cowhers players are morons. Every one of the key players on his &#8217;08 Super Bowl team were Cowhers decision to draft or sign. I have a feeling the trend of Steeler coaches lasting 10yrs or more is about to end.</p>
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		<title>By: bobzilla1001</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2408697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobzilla1001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cowher was just as much responsible for Roethlisberger not wearing a helmet during his crotch-rocket joy rides as Tomlin was responsible for Roethlisberger trolling college bars.
NFL coaches are not babysitters.
Secondly, Tomlin inherited a group of players with which Cowher had compiled a 34-14 record his final three seasons in Pittsburgh.
Let&#039;s stop pretending Tomlin inherited the 1968 Steelers.
Thirdly, should the Rooneys suddenly fire Tomlin tomorrow, you would be the first to say ``good riddance.&#039;&#039; 
Finally, I have no doubts whatsoever that neither the 2005 or the 2008 Steelers would&#039;ve beaten the 1995 Cowboys. I&#039;m thankful their opponents were only the Seahawks and Cardinals, two of the worst and most generic NFC champions in NFL history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowher was just as much responsible for Roethlisberger not wearing a helmet during his crotch-rocket joy rides as Tomlin was responsible for Roethlisberger trolling college bars.<br />
NFL coaches are not babysitters.<br />
Secondly, Tomlin inherited a group of players with which Cowher had compiled a 34-14 record his final three seasons in Pittsburgh.<br />
Let&#8217;s stop pretending Tomlin inherited the 1968 Steelers.<br />
Thirdly, should the Rooneys suddenly fire Tomlin tomorrow, you would be the first to say &#8220;good riddance.&#8221;<br />
Finally, I have no doubts whatsoever that neither the 2005 or the 2008 Steelers would&#8217;ve beaten the 1995 Cowboys. I&#8217;m thankful their opponents were only the Seahawks and Cardinals, two of the worst and most generic NFC champions in NFL history.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/18/mike-tomlin-were-not-devoid-of-leadership/#comment-2408444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Tomlin&#039;s made some bad calls. Haley was a good decision, but Todd&#039;s made some idiotic calls as well. And much as I admire him, so has LeBeau. I was ready to kick Roethlisberger up and down the field after our last game because he keeps trying to play Superman instead of running the system. A lot of mistakes have been made. I&#039;d be cracking up more now about losing Harrison if not for my determined belief that he&#039;ll still come back and work out a deal before all the dust settles. Even Colbert&#039;s had me gritting my teeth. 

But ... the best indicator of future performance is past performance. I know this group of personnel guys and coaches has a good track record. I know this organization has a good track record. I know Roethlisberger--for all his failings--is one of the most naturally gifted QBs in the league and still in his prime. I know the o-line should be better this year and the offense should have a better grasp of Haley&#039;s system. I know the defense still ranked #1 overall last season. I know the strengths of our major competitors--but I also know their weaknesses. We&#039;ve made some good off-season moves. As knowledgeable fans, we have reason to be concerned, but we don&#039;t have reason to panic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Tomlin&#8217;s made some bad calls. Haley was a good decision, but Todd&#8217;s made some idiotic calls as well. And much as I admire him, so has LeBeau. I was ready to kick Roethlisberger up and down the field after our last game because he keeps trying to play Superman instead of running the system. A lot of mistakes have been made. I&#8217;d be cracking up more now about losing Harrison if not for my determined belief that he&#8217;ll still come back and work out a deal before all the dust settles. Even Colbert&#8217;s had me gritting my teeth. </p>
<p>But &#8230; the best indicator of future performance is past performance. I know this group of personnel guys and coaches has a good track record. I know this organization has a good track record. I know Roethlisberger&#8211;for all his failings&#8211;is one of the most naturally gifted QBs in the league and still in his prime. I know the o-line should be better this year and the offense should have a better grasp of Haley&#8217;s system. I know the defense still ranked #1 overall last season. I know the strengths of our major competitors&#8211;but I also know their weaknesses. We&#8217;ve made some good off-season moves. As knowledgeable fans, we have reason to be concerned, but we don&#8217;t have reason to panic.</p>
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