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49ers owner says he has no evidence NFLPA survey exists

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Prior to the Super Bowl, the NFLPA proudly proclaimed that a survey of players showed that nearly all of them didn’t trust team doctors.

Now, the league is questioning whether the survey even happened, in essence accusing the union of making it up.

John York, the 49ers owner and the chairman of the league’s health and safety committee, threw gas on the fire by saying he hasn’t seen any evidence the survey exists.

“I haven’t seen it,” York said, via Jarrett Bell of USA Today. “The NFL Physicians Society has asked. The league has asked. And attorneys have asked. We haven’t gotten any type of positive response. . . .

“The anecdotal evidence of the players who have spoken out, have said they didn’t know anything about of the survey.”

The NFLPA was short on specifics when talking about the survey, never detailing how many players were polled, other than to say every team was represented.

The NFLPA replied Tuesday with a statement that took shots at York, but didn’t address the nature of his questions.

“Coming from the organization that denied Joe Montana’s workers compensation benefits for years, we are not concerned about the remarks about our player survey,” the statement read. “The day the NFL commits itself to taking care of players who have been injured at work is the day we begin to take these types of comments seriously.”

We could print more and more of the words, but it goes back to the basic problem the league and the union have on issues great and small. There’s an inherent mistrust in any union-management situation, and there probably should be.

But this relationship is so antagonistic at the moment, that things they seem to have agreed to, such as HGH testing, are hung up in a maze of arguments with no end in sight.

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20 Responses to “49ers owner says he has no evidence NFLPA survey exists”
  1. vbe2 says: Mar 19, 2013 9:32 PM

    Unions have outlived their usefulness. It’s time they died their proper death.

  2. CKL says: Mar 19, 2013 9:33 PM

    “Coming from the organization that denied Joe Montana’s workers compensation benefits for years, we are not concerned about the remarks about our player survey,” the statement read. “The day the NFL commits itself to taking care of players who have been injured at work is the day we begin to take these types of comments seriously.”

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    Seriously??? This is the equivalent of a 3 year old shouting, “I know you are but what am I?” What a disgrace. The owners definitely have their moments of infamy (and idiocy) but nothing tops these union people for immaturity.

  3. goldrush36 says: Mar 19, 2013 9:35 PM

    De Smith possibly dishonest again? No way never…. Look under one of his hats. Maybe it’s hidden there

  4. mjkelly77 says: Mar 19, 2013 9:44 PM

    Now, the league is questioning whether the survey even happened, in essence accusing the union of making it up.
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    Wait until it comes out that Maurice Smith made it up that he’s licensed to practice law.

  5. myschwartzisbiggerthenyours says: Mar 19, 2013 9:50 PM

    The NFLPA just like most American unions is a joke. They are essentially a welfare system as the union employees basically live of other people’s hard work.

  6. smcgaels1997 says: Mar 19, 2013 9:53 PM

    John York may be a clueless owner..but dudes a Doctor, so yeah I can’t discredit his view

  7. soysauceandunderwear says: Mar 19, 2013 9:55 PM

    NFLPA makes shady backroom deals all the time. This should not surprise anyone that they lie and make up propaganda.

    They lose every major battle they get in with NFL. Notice how only one year removed from the new CBA negotiations the salary cap barely goes up, in fact it only goes up cause they make a shady deal to punish Skins and Boys. Notice how all the UFA signings are smaller deals than in years past. Notice how all the RFAs are still on their original teams and none are being signed a year early. Notice how multiple teams are restructuring players to conveniently lower franchise #s just before franchise tags are applied at lower rates. Notice how NFL “allows” a 3 day legal tampering period at the beginning of FA. It’s supposed to help FA find the best deal, but all it really does is slow down the fever pitch of FA allowing teams to find out what the market value truly is and then the ability to resign them before any other team can…keeping salaries down. It all adds up to the NFLPA being outmatched and outwitted at every level.

    The only thing they can do is make things up to try to paint the NFL in a poor light.

  8. bloodorange13 says: Mar 19, 2013 10:00 PM

    Billionaire’s trying to squeeze another few drops from the working man? This is my shocked face.

  9. pylonprophet says: Mar 19, 2013 10:01 PM

    What a pathetic, childish response by the union. The fact that the union insists on being confrontational at every possible opportunity doesn’t bode well for the game. If the NFL were to announce that footballs are brown the union would issue a scathing press release – because God forbid they let a statement from the league or ownership go by without contending the statement.

    The NFL may seem indestructible right now but maybe labor leaders should take a look at history to see how unions being constantly contentious has irreversibly damaged other industries…after that they can maybe have an adult screen statements before releasing them.

  10. keylimelight says: Mar 19, 2013 10:36 PM

    If the NFLPA had the survey, it would be a simple (and proper) matter to provide the results to the Health and Safety Committee.

    Since the only response from the NFLPA came in the form of petty posturing, I’m inclined to believe that the results of the survey were nothing more than overstated and exaggerated hearsay.

    DeMaurice Smith is a fool for allowing business to be conducted this way. Whose side is he on?

  11. steviemo says: Mar 19, 2013 10:56 PM

    It is to laugh.

    Seriously, absolutely everything is a smokescreen to keep hGH testing from taking place.

    And that’s because 100% of offensive linemen use it, as do probably 40-50% of defensive linemen and linebackers, plus assorted others.

  12. shakukalick says: Mar 19, 2013 11:01 PM

    De Smith is a joke. All bluster and contention, with crappy results for his constituents.

  13. goldenperspective says: Mar 19, 2013 11:02 PM

    “The day the NFL commits itself to taking care of players who have been injured at work is the day we begin to take these types of comments seriously.”…..
    The NFL commits millions of dollars to modern day players. Whether or not the players use the money wisely is up to them. Maybe the NFLPA should commit financial advisors to the players.

  14. 23chameleons says: Mar 19, 2013 11:10 PM

    That talk about a partnership and what’s in the best interest for the future of the league, yet they don’t address any issue together ? Creating a management vs. workers environment is counterproductive and leads to new workers (and new labor leaders).

  15. wmelch says: Mar 19, 2013 11:44 PM

    I have questions-
    Are NFL players eligible for worker’s comp in their respective states?
    Is there a separate injury agreement( insurance ) with the NFL to provide compensation e.g.-payment for treatment of injuries.

    If you put a drill bit through your hand while working a drill press, you would be compensated for medical expenses and lost time, and perhaps future earnings.

    I’m not talking about salary here, just the benefits received by any legally employed worker in the U.S.
    If players are eligible for this, (worker’s comp or some derivation ) it could be perceived that the NFLPA is posturing themselves for the “big one” e.g. the concussion lawsuit that surely must be on everyone’s mind.

    Also, future earnings could be nebulous given the capricious nature of NFL careers.

    Any takers?

  16. cameraguy76 says: Mar 20, 2013 12:36 AM

    Unions use to be the essential medium between those that are rich and those making them rich. I can’t say I feel for ALL NFL players, but those that are on the lower end benefit from them. In the normal world they do keep some of us from getting completely screwed on everything work related. Ask anyone who has moved from the north to Florida. Unions are not the problem folks, you can opt out of that

  17. jibberator says: Mar 20, 2013 2:16 AM

    Woah, nice straw man fallacy nflpa, guilty as charged!

  18. jfinn5 says: Mar 20, 2013 3:21 AM

    Why would you trust a managements doctor? Every time an owner moves his lips he is lying( Jerry Richardson).

  19. nananatman says: Mar 20, 2013 11:23 AM

    Ha like HGH testing will ever happen and maybe you should start testing for it in high school.

  20. skylander14 says: Mar 20, 2013 11:34 AM

    The NFLPA just like most American unions is a joke. They are essentially a welfare system as the union employees basically live of other people’s hard work.

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    Or it could be that their job is to make sure the hard working people get what they deserve…

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