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	<title>Comments on: Wes Welker&#8217;s camp says Patriots&#8217; approach was &#8220;take it or leave it&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: buffalobills716</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 05:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who care?And as an die hard Buffalo Bills fan,I&#039;m happy Wes Walker&#039;s is outta the division. And not playing for their cheaters so called Patriots. #GoBills]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who care?And as an die hard Buffalo Bills fan,I&#8217;m happy Wes Walker&#8217;s is outta the division. And not playing for their cheaters so called Patriots. #GoBills</p>
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		<title>By: patsfanvt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah most job contracts are take it or leave it, get over it Welker&#039;s agent]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah most job contracts are take it or leave it, get over it Welker&#8217;s agent</p>
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		<title>By: fred4560</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patriots will be better in the long run they need speed not 
Someone who doesn&#039;t stretch the field in the playoffs
Plus too many key drops ....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriots will be better in the long run they need speed not<br />
Someone who doesn&#8217;t stretch the field in the playoffs<br />
Plus too many key drops &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: wrap2tyt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Screw what the &quot;market&quot; says the value of a player is... what is he worth to your team and in this case with Welker, I&#039;d say it was a proven value... over and again.  I personally don&#039;t understand why anyone is so upset over this... it&#039;s how the Patriots have done business for years and how they will continue to do business.  This is one decision that the &quot;Football Genius&quot; blew that will come home to roost this season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw what the &#8220;market&#8221; says the value of a player is&#8230; what is he worth to your team and in this case with Welker, I&#8217;d say it was a proven value&#8230; over and again.  I personally don&#8217;t understand why anyone is so upset over this&#8230; it&#8217;s how the Patriots have done business for years and how they will continue to do business.  This is one decision that the &#8220;Football Genius&#8221; blew that will come home to roost this season.</p>
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		<title>By: bubba99m</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been personally exposed to the world of contractual representation, I know all too well how common it is for agents, from time to time, to get a little lazy or careless.  It doesn&#039;t take much.

Typically, even agents, hire other lawyers to review their work as part of due diligence, but often what they don&#039;t do is enough research on ALL the various aspects of the profession, including collateral influences, that would affect the market, the client and the team.   The theory that perception is reality does not apply to the negotiating process for pro athletes, especially in the NFL.   Knowing what typically happens throughout the process, and how much time, energy and resources would be required for an agent to be in the best position to give the best advice, I am inclined to believe that Welker&#039;s agent simply fell into the &quot;comfort level&quot; trap and came up short on gathering intelligence.   He clearly did not search out a better view (bigger picture) of the market and the trending of values at various positions.  Obviously, the Patriots DID.  And they simply couldn&#039;t wait for Wes or his agent to get up to speed.   

Both sides are doing damage control as a result.  The team is having to deal with the PR fallout and Wes is having to deal with the agents failure to recognize a fair deal in a very complicated landscape.  Unfortunate for both sides, but know this:  the Patriots have been successful because of who they are and how they go about business.  Nothing has changed.  They will likely be as good or better next  year than this year.  They are a formidable football team between June and February and a no-nonsense business machine devoid of all emotion the remainder of the year.   That is why their success is sustainable; yet also why they are not always very likeable.  Whether you call them arrogant or cheap or some other ridiculous adjective, it is simply good business.  The same good business that agents often fail to provide for their clients.  

I know how easy it is for players and agents to be blinded by the money, but I don&#039;t accept that as an excuse.   We may never know all the details of what transpired over the past two years between Wes and the Patriots, so, based on what we do know, there surely will continue to be a debate regarding fault.   But, so be it.  That&#039;s what these forums are all about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been personally exposed to the world of contractual representation, I know all too well how common it is for agents, from time to time, to get a little lazy or careless.  It doesn&#8217;t take much.</p>
<p>Typically, even agents, hire other lawyers to review their work as part of due diligence, but often what they don&#8217;t do is enough research on ALL the various aspects of the profession, including collateral influences, that would affect the market, the client and the team.   The theory that perception is reality does not apply to the negotiating process for pro athletes, especially in the NFL.   Knowing what typically happens throughout the process, and how much time, energy and resources would be required for an agent to be in the best position to give the best advice, I am inclined to believe that Welker&#8217;s agent simply fell into the &#8220;comfort level&#8221; trap and came up short on gathering intelligence.   He clearly did not search out a better view (bigger picture) of the market and the trending of values at various positions.  Obviously, the Patriots DID.  And they simply couldn&#8217;t wait for Wes or his agent to get up to speed.   </p>
<p>Both sides are doing damage control as a result.  The team is having to deal with the PR fallout and Wes is having to deal with the agents failure to recognize a fair deal in a very complicated landscape.  Unfortunate for both sides, but know this:  the Patriots have been successful because of who they are and how they go about business.  Nothing has changed.  They will likely be as good or better next  year than this year.  They are a formidable football team between June and February and a no-nonsense business machine devoid of all emotion the remainder of the year.   That is why their success is sustainable; yet also why they are not always very likeable.  Whether you call them arrogant or cheap or some other ridiculous adjective, it is simply good business.  The same good business that agents often fail to provide for their clients.  </p>
<p>I know how easy it is for players and agents to be blinded by the money, but I don&#8217;t accept that as an excuse.   We may never know all the details of what transpired over the past two years between Wes and the Patriots, so, based on what we do know, there surely will continue to be a debate regarding fault.   But, so be it.  That&#8217;s what these forums are all about.</p>
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		<title>By: psousa1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Welker as much as the next Pats fan.  Toughest SOB in the NFL.  When they did not have much of a running game prior to this season Welker was the running game.  Bubble screen, 3 yard slant and he would take them for YAC for about 10 more.  But I am getting tired of the pity party.  Baltimore playoff game the Ravens took away the middle of the field, NYG super bowl 2 years ago they took away the middle of the field.  They were daring NE to take it outside the numbers or downfield and they can&#039;t.  Hernandez signed a big deal last year and so did Gronk so they aren&#039;t going anywhere and they work the middle of the field.  They have a 3rd guy in Jake Ballard who lead TE&#039;s in yards per catch 2 seasons ago and is  hopefully heathy The numbers may say otherwise but there was a need for a change in offensive philosophy.  Amendola, if healthy, is a guy who plays in the slot or split out, gets downfield and underneath.  The big thing is if he is injury free of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Welker as much as the next Pats fan.  Toughest SOB in the NFL.  When they did not have much of a running game prior to this season Welker was the running game.  Bubble screen, 3 yard slant and he would take them for YAC for about 10 more.  But I am getting tired of the pity party.  Baltimore playoff game the Ravens took away the middle of the field, NYG super bowl 2 years ago they took away the middle of the field.  They were daring NE to take it outside the numbers or downfield and they can&#8217;t.  Hernandez signed a big deal last year and so did Gronk so they aren&#8217;t going anywhere and they work the middle of the field.  They have a 3rd guy in Jake Ballard who lead TE&#8217;s in yards per catch 2 seasons ago and is  hopefully heathy The numbers may say otherwise but there was a need for a change in offensive philosophy.  Amendola, if healthy, is a guy who plays in the slot or split out, gets downfield and underneath.  The big thing is if he is injury free of course.</p>
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		<title>By: patsfan13</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patsfan13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked Welker as a player, but maybe this is a blessing in disguise. With Wes gone, Brady will go to his all time favorite receiver, the open man. He&#039;s not seen open receivers this past few years because he was primarily looking for Welker. Let&#039;s see how this season goes. I&#039;m keeping an open mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Welker as a player, but maybe this is a blessing in disguise. With Wes gone, Brady will go to his all time favorite receiver, the open man. He&#8217;s not seen open receivers this past few years because he was primarily looking for Welker. Let&#8217;s see how this season goes. I&#8217;m keeping an open mind.</p>
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		<title>By: cmonelisha</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cmonelisha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who cares...your a bronco now, patriots lost..lets just end this story that they keep contributing to]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares&#8230;your a bronco now, patriots lost..lets just end this story that they keep contributing to</p>
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		<title>By: theandy59</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Welker first came to the Patriots, I remember reading Gil Brandt&#039;s comment that, while Welker was a nice pick-up, he&#039;s not the kind of guy that wins you championships.  He was right.  I love Welker, but in the long run, he&#039;s replaceable.  Amendola, Edelman, and Hernandez will combine to replace Welker&#039;s production.  Without Wes on the field, perhaps Brady will get back to looking for the open man instead of looking for Welker first.  Those that want to criticize the Pats handling of this apparently fail to acknowledge that they&#039;ve had an unprecedented run of excellence over the last 12 seasons.  Every season, they are legitimate contenders for the conference championship; whatever they&#039;re doing, it&#039;s working.  Most of the consistent winners in the NFL do it the same way - the Steelers, the Ravens, even the Giants.  None of those teams are inclined to overpay for past performance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Welker first came to the Patriots, I remember reading Gil Brandt&#8217;s comment that, while Welker was a nice pick-up, he&#8217;s not the kind of guy that wins you championships.  He was right.  I love Welker, but in the long run, he&#8217;s replaceable.  Amendola, Edelman, and Hernandez will combine to replace Welker&#8217;s production.  Without Wes on the field, perhaps Brady will get back to looking for the open man instead of looking for Welker first.  Those that want to criticize the Pats handling of this apparently fail to acknowledge that they&#8217;ve had an unprecedented run of excellence over the last 12 seasons.  Every season, they are legitimate contenders for the conference championship; whatever they&#8217;re doing, it&#8217;s working.  Most of the consistent winners in the NFL do it the same way &#8211; the Steelers, the Ravens, even the Giants.  None of those teams are inclined to overpay for past performance.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look WW is an excellent player, still. Ty Law was still good when the Pats let him walk too. Seymour was still good when the Pats traded him too. Etc etc. The bottom line is regardless of tenure and past stature, the Pats will not ever ever ever pay $2 for something they value at $1. The fact Kraft said yesterday that they were willing to pay him above market shows how valuable WW truly was to them. 

I don&#039;t blame the agency for responding because that was some pretty strong stuff  from Kraft. But Kraft is not the boy who cried wolf. When he says something that vehement, it&#039;s pretty clear he feels there was misinformation out there. I mean the man wouldn&#039;t even sue the Herald for libel when they falsely trumpeted the assertion that there were practice tapes done by the Pats of other teams, which was a complete fabrication and very damaging.

One thing I hope that agency does is remember the fiduciary duty for their clients and send a different member of their staff to negotiate with the Pats in the future. I don&#039;t see anything good happening for awhile if Dunn himself shows up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look WW is an excellent player, still. Ty Law was still good when the Pats let him walk too. Seymour was still good when the Pats traded him too. Etc etc. The bottom line is regardless of tenure and past stature, the Pats will not ever ever ever pay $2 for something they value at $1. The fact Kraft said yesterday that they were willing to pay him above market shows how valuable WW truly was to them. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame the agency for responding because that was some pretty strong stuff  from Kraft. But Kraft is not the boy who cried wolf. When he says something that vehement, it&#8217;s pretty clear he feels there was misinformation out there. I mean the man wouldn&#8217;t even sue the Herald for libel when they falsely trumpeted the assertion that there were practice tapes done by the Pats of other teams, which was a complete fabrication and very damaging.</p>
<p>One thing I hope that agency does is remember the fiduciary duty for their clients and send a different member of their staff to negotiate with the Pats in the future. I don&#8217;t see anything good happening for awhile if Dunn himself shows up.</p>
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		<title>By: azarkhan</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[patswillreign says: To everyone saying that the Patriots are cheap, I think $5,000,000 a year is actually a pretty good income to play a game for a living.
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I would to if I was doing your job at your salary. But then, neither of us is a pro-football wide receiver playing in front of millions fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patswillreign says: To everyone saying that the Patriots are cheap, I think $5,000,000 a year is actually a pretty good income to play a game for a living.<br />
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<p>I would to if I was doing your job at your salary. But then, neither of us is a pro-football wide receiver playing in front of millions fans.</p>
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		<title>By: sportnorcal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough of the pathetic whining from both sides.

The team tried to save money, the player tried to make more money. Neither is wrong - it&#039;s a business after all.

What is nauseating is the public posturing by both sides to try and justify their own perspective. Move on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough of the pathetic whining from both sides.</p>
<p>The team tried to save money, the player tried to make more money. Neither is wrong &#8211; it&#8217;s a business after all.</p>
<p>What is nauseating is the public posturing by both sides to try and justify their own perspective. Move on.</p>
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		<title>By: IBleedBlueBitchez</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whats the over/under on Amendola making it to the bye week alive?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the over/under on Amendola making it to the bye week alive?</p>
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		<title>By: azarkhan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azarkhan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The message sent to young Patriots like Hernandez and Gronkowski is clear--if the Patriots treat a great player and teammate like Welker shabbily, they&#039;ll do the same to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message sent to young Patriots like Hernandez and Gronkowski is clear&#8211;if the Patriots treat a great player and teammate like Welker shabbily, they&#8217;ll do the same to you.</p>
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		<title>By: rc33</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Undeniable thru all of this is that the schmuck agent turned down several offers better than the one settled for. I dunno, seems accurately reading the market is part of the agent&#039;s job. So now he&#039;s in full-time finger pointing mode and making a new and different statement every day. 
Dumervil&#039;s former agent is the only one out there that&#039;s less competent than this guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undeniable thru all of this is that the schmuck agent turned down several offers better than the one settled for. I dunno, seems accurately reading the market is part of the agent&#8217;s job. So now he&#8217;s in full-time finger pointing mode and making a new and different statement every day.<br />
Dumervil&#8217;s former agent is the only one out there that&#8217;s less competent than this guy.</p>
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		<title>By: bratbeach</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bratbeach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stuff like this is stupid to me.

There was a player available. You could&#039;ve paid more. You didn&#039;t. Your choice. 

There was an offer on the table. You could&#039;ve taken it and stayed with that team. You didn&#039;t. Your choice. 

And despite the Broncos fans we seem to suddenly think that the Patriots are rival, it wasn&#039;t like he up an went to a hated enemy or even a team that they&#039;ve been tangling with for years. This isn&#039;t Johnny Damon to the Yankees or anything. It&#039;s not the end of the world.

Best of luck Wes. Go Patriots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff like this is stupid to me.</p>
<p>There was a player available. You could&#8217;ve paid more. You didn&#8217;t. Your choice. </p>
<p>There was an offer on the table. You could&#8217;ve taken it and stayed with that team. You didn&#8217;t. Your choice. </p>
<p>And despite the Broncos fans we seem to suddenly think that the Patriots are rival, it wasn&#8217;t like he up an went to a hated enemy or even a team that they&#8217;ve been tangling with for years. This isn&#8217;t Johnny Damon to the Yankees or anything. It&#8217;s not the end of the world.</p>
<p>Best of luck Wes. Go Patriots.</p>
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		<title>By: edelmanfanclub</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409878</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard Welker turned down 3 years 25 million last offseason, and was looking for that deal this year. New England gave a fair offer in terms of what he signed for. I personally wish New England signed him to 2 years 14 mill. But I&#039;m ok with Amendola. I wish Welker luck in Denver, but don&#039;t expect 100 annual catches from him. He should still get 60-70 though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Welker turned down 3 years 25 million last offseason, and was looking for that deal this year. New England gave a fair offer in terms of what he signed for. I personally wish New England signed him to 2 years 14 mill. But I&#8217;m ok with Amendola. I wish Welker luck in Denver, but don&#8217;t expect 100 annual catches from him. He should still get 60-70 though.</p>
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		<title>By: patswillreign</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patswillreign]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To everyone saying that the Patriots are cheap, I think $5,000,000 a year is actually a pretty good income to play a game for a living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To everyone saying that the Patriots are cheap, I think $5,000,000 a year is actually a pretty good income to play a game for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: lflib69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lflib69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well....at least his agent is admitting that the Patriots DID make an offer.  The day Welker signed with the Broncos he denied the fact that the Patriots had extended an offer.  I think I will believe Kraft over someone who changes his story when truth comes out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;.at least his agent is admitting that the Patriots DID make an offer.  The day Welker signed with the Broncos he denied the fact that the Patriots had extended an offer.  I think I will believe Kraft over someone who changes his story when truth comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: tigerlilac</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigerlilac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A reminder to everyone, Welker has not complained, just his agents. He had the opportunity to overrule his agents at anytime during the contract negotiations. He took their advice and he took responsibility, blaming no one, not his agents and not the Patriots.  Welker is a class act.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reminder to everyone, Welker has not complained, just his agents. He had the opportunity to overrule his agents at anytime during the contract negotiations. He took their advice and he took responsibility, blaming no one, not his agents and not the Patriots.  Welker is a class act.</p>
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		<title>By: bcgreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bcgreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wes was offered 2 years 18 mill before last year&#039;s franchise tag was signed.  The Pats absolutely predicted the market would change this year.  Wes&#039; agents did not.  You do NOT pay for past performance.  Considering age and wear and tear, and the new cap, 2 years 10 mill was appropriate.  You do not pay older players huge money.  Could they have done 2 years 12 mill?  Sure.  Did Kraft want Wes to be a Pat for life?  Probably, sure.  The Pats are not &quot;cheap&quot;  they spend to the cap every year.  They&#039;re not one of those teams that are 10 mill under the cap.  

Why did they give Amendola more years (it&#039;s the same money that Wes signed for in Denver--6 mill per)?  Age.  Amendola is 27.  Welker is 32.  When the Pats lost Troy Brown, the Pats traded for Welker and gave him a 5 year deal.  They lose Welker and give Amendola....a 5 year deal.  They&#039;ve been in this position before.  It&#039;s a business.  At least that&#039;s what players say all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes was offered 2 years 18 mill before last year&#8217;s franchise tag was signed.  The Pats absolutely predicted the market would change this year.  Wes&#8217; agents did not.  You do NOT pay for past performance.  Considering age and wear and tear, and the new cap, 2 years 10 mill was appropriate.  You do not pay older players huge money.  Could they have done 2 years 12 mill?  Sure.  Did Kraft want Wes to be a Pat for life?  Probably, sure.  The Pats are not &#8220;cheap&#8221;  they spend to the cap every year.  They&#8217;re not one of those teams that are 10 mill under the cap.  </p>
<p>Why did they give Amendola more years (it&#8217;s the same money that Wes signed for in Denver&#8211;6 mill per)?  Age.  Amendola is 27.  Welker is 32.  When the Pats lost Troy Brown, the Pats traded for Welker and gave him a 5 year deal.  They lose Welker and give Amendola&#8230;.a 5 year deal.  They&#8217;ve been in this position before.  It&#8217;s a business.  At least that&#8217;s what players say all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: tigerlilac</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigerlilac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These negotiations are a pox on both houses but Dunn is the one who did a very poor job by his client. The Patriots had a plan B that may be of greater value both near term and long term.  Welker&#039;s agent forced his client into a plan B that is a very poor deal in a number of respects with the lone exception that he gets to play for a contender and with a Hall Of Fame quarterback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These negotiations are a pox on both houses but Dunn is the one who did a very poor job by his client. The Patriots had a plan B that may be of greater value both near term and long term.  Welker&#8217;s agent forced his client into a plan B that is a very poor deal in a number of respects with the lone exception that he gets to play for a contender and with a Hall Of Fame quarterback.</p>
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		<title>By: quicktaker</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[quicktaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Welker had enough of Kraft&#039;s attempts to lowball him and didn&#039;t feel that the Kraft understood his value.  Welker&#039;s 1350 yards, 118 catches, endless 3rd down conversions, and the ability to read defenses with Brady made him worth much more than what Kraft was offering. The Patriot&#039;s tight ends are great but Welker is a more important piece of the offense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Welker had enough of Kraft&#8217;s attempts to lowball him and didn&#8217;t feel that the Kraft understood his value.  Welker&#8217;s 1350 yards, 118 catches, endless 3rd down conversions, and the ability to read defenses with Brady made him worth much more than what Kraft was offering. The Patriot&#8217;s tight ends are great but Welker is a more important piece of the offense.</p>
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		<title>By: thewizardofbs</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thewizardofbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Patriots did exactly the right thing. A team cannot let an older player dictate to them what he thinks he is worth. Go Patriots, great policy, don&#039;t change a thing! Let Welker go before his talents diminish! 

Signed: All the Dolphins fans]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Patriots did exactly the right thing. A team cannot let an older player dictate to them what he thinks he is worth. Go Patriots, great policy, don&#8217;t change a thing! Let Welker go before his talents diminish! </p>
<p>Signed: All the Dolphins fans</p>
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		<title>By: weepingjebus</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[weepingjebus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newsflash:  NFL player thinks he deserves more money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsflash:  NFL player thinks he deserves more money.</p>
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		<title>By: thestrategyexpert</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/19/wes-welkers-camp-says-patriots-approach-was-take-it-or-leave-it/#comment-2409748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thestrategyexpert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does everybody now understand the new trend in agent tactics?  When you sign a player to a new team, you trash and slam the previous team as negative reinforcement that they will hopefully learn from the next time.  These agents are evolving to become sneakier at getting away with infringing upon their fiduciary responsibilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does everybody now understand the new trend in agent tactics?  When you sign a player to a new team, you trash and slam the previous team as negative reinforcement that they will hopefully learn from the next time.  These agents are evolving to become sneakier at getting away with infringing upon their fiduciary responsibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: ampats</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampats]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love all these cheapskate statements especially from fans whose teams haven&#039;t sniffed the playoffs in several years.

Folks its business. Should the Patriots have waited for Wes to make his decision after FA started. Its been two years and his agents misread the market.

Belichick makes decisions on what he perceives is best for the team and his track record is pretty good. He sees every practice/play/game of his players and possibly he sees a player beginning his decline.Welker would have never dropped that pass in the Ravens game two years ago.

Like it or not, that is how business is done in Foxboro which is why the Patriots have been an elite team for more than the past decade and remain favorites to return to the SB this year.Belichick will always move on a year early than a year too late.

For the last time, Amendola was not brought in to replace Welker but is another piece of an offense that needed to be retooled after playoff losses the past few seasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love all these cheapskate statements especially from fans whose teams haven&#8217;t sniffed the playoffs in several years.</p>
<p>Folks its business. Should the Patriots have waited for Wes to make his decision after FA started. Its been two years and his agents misread the market.</p>
<p>Belichick makes decisions on what he perceives is best for the team and his track record is pretty good. He sees every practice/play/game of his players and possibly he sees a player beginning his decline.Welker would have never dropped that pass in the Ravens game two years ago.</p>
<p>Like it or not, that is how business is done in Foxboro which is why the Patriots have been an elite team for more than the past decade and remain favorites to return to the SB this year.Belichick will always move on a year early than a year too late.</p>
<p>For the last time, Amendola was not brought in to replace Welker but is another piece of an offense that needed to be retooled after playoff losses the past few seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: fanfrommontreal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fanfrommontreal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To those who accused tha Patriots of being cheap, they spend all the money that the cap allow, like most teams. What do you expect them to do to pay more?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who accused tha Patriots of being cheap, they spend all the money that the cap allow, like most teams. What do you expect them to do to pay more?</p>
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		<title>By: azarkhan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azarkhan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I definitely believe Wes Welker before I believe &quot;BB&quot;/Kraft. The Patriots have history of low balling players, and they did it again with Welker.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely believe Wes Welker before I believe &#8220;BB&#8221;/Kraft. The Patriots have history of low balling players, and they did it again with Welker.</p>
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		<title>By: wannabeqb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wannabeqb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dunn screwed up and overestimated the market for WW, leading him to reject the best offer he received. Now he&#039;s publicly blaming everyone else in an attempt to keep his client. 

Wes has been in decline and the beating he has taken for the last 5 years is showing. That&#039;s why the Broncos contract is only guaranteed for one deal. However, I see both teams winning, Denver in the short term and NE in the long. I think Welker may be the one with regrets, especially if that press conference was anything to go by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunn screwed up and overestimated the market for WW, leading him to reject the best offer he received. Now he&#8217;s publicly blaming everyone else in an attempt to keep his client. </p>
<p>Wes has been in decline and the beating he has taken for the last 5 years is showing. That&#8217;s why the Broncos contract is only guaranteed for one deal. However, I see both teams winning, Denver in the short term and NE in the long. I think Welker may be the one with regrets, especially if that press conference was anything to go by.</p>
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