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Pat White would play an important role for 49ers

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Despite the gold-and-blue-colored glasses, I’m (mostly) realistic when it comes to the assessment of former West Virginia players who have graduated to the next level.

Quarterback Pat White, one of the greatest Mountaineers ever, couldn’t get it done in the NFL.  Drafted higher than any WVU quarterback since Oliver Luck in 1982, White washed out of the NFL after only one season.

Some would say White was ahead of his time.  Others would say that, even in this read-option-crazed era, White wasn’t very good — in large part because he couldn’t take an NFL-caliber hit.

But the 49ers, who worked White out on Thursday, have a problem.  They’ll be facing the Seahawks and quarterback Russell Wilson twice per year, indefinitely.  The Niners will need a scout-team quarterback who can simulate Wilson during the two (or three) weeks the Seahawks are on the docket, and possibly more often than that.

Roughly the same size as Wilson, White’s specialty could be helping the 49ers work on ways to shut down Wilson and, in turn, the Seattle offense.

And the 49ers won’t have to worry about White getting injured, because he’ll be wearing the red no-contact jersey while running the scout-team offense.

He may never have to actually take a snap in a game setting for the 49ers.  But White could become an important piece of the puzzle for a team that is trying to hold off the Seahawks while trying to win a sixth Super Bowl.

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  1. cakemixa says: Mar 28, 2013 7:16 PM

    This only makes sense if he was as good as Wilson.

  2. matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:19 PM

    Anybody else think the Seahawks and Russel Wilson are overrated? I didn’t say they aren’t good, just overrated.

  3. soysauceandunderwear says: Mar 28, 2013 7:23 PM

    Lets go…….

  4. explosionsauce says: Mar 28, 2013 7:25 PM

    cakemixa says:
    Mar 28, 2013 7:16 PM
    This only makes sense if he was as good as Wilson.

    —————————-

    Your statement makes no sense

  5. thingamajig says: Mar 28, 2013 7:26 PM

    The Niners should hire him as “Spread Game Scout QB/Special Projects”

  6. joeytorontosucks says: Mar 28, 2013 7:26 PM

    Kaepernick runs the read-option doesn’t he?

  7. kissmytaintpatriotsrule says: Mar 28, 2013 7:26 PM

    Does it really matter? we all know the Patriots are going to win the next 5 super bowls.

  8. alphaq2 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:27 PM

    The read option is about being smart and athletic enough to run it, but smart more than anything. If you read the defense correctly, there should always be somewhere to go with the ball. People can say it’s “the flavor of the month” all they want. If it’s run correctly, it works more than it can be stopped. Is White smart enough to read the D? That’s pretty much what it comes down to.

  9. pacificnw7722 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:27 PM

    Ok…..Pat White is not even close to what Wilson can do, and Seattle is mostly still a run first team.

    The only time he takes off running is if everything breaks down on the play. He did break Manning’s passing TD record as a rookie and has a nice cannon for an arm.

    And adding Harvin and more of RB Robert Turbin to the mix will more then likely just confuse the hell our DC’s.

  10. jikkle49 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:29 PM

    If he was as good as Wilson he wouldn’t be a scout team QB.

    All the scout team’s QB job is to give the give the defense a look and feel for who they are about to face which I would agree with Florio that White would be able to do.

  11. cosanostra71 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:31 PM

    The Seahawks are chasing the Niners, not the other way around. The 49ers are two time defending NFC West Champions.

  12. 49ertrojanmann says: Mar 28, 2013 7:33 PM

    @ cakemixa

    I dont think you get how scout teams work.

  13. anasdonuts says: Mar 28, 2013 7:33 PM

    He would make an exceptional tackling dummy

  14. nickyleacy says: Mar 28, 2013 7:38 PM

    “White wasn’t very good — in large part because he couldn’t take an NFL-caliber hit.”

    …or make any NFL-caliber throws.

  15. tiggerblood says: Mar 28, 2013 7:42 PM

    Yep nice fit, good job by Harbaugh not only Wilson and Seahawks but the rest of the NFL that runs the flavor of the month.

  16. shaunypoo says: Mar 28, 2013 7:43 PM

    You know why this offense is flavor of the month?

    Soon teams will realize that all you need to do is hit the QB. Hard. This isn’t about a real shifty guy, like Vick. This is read-option. Once the QB tucks the ball, go hit him. Hard. He either tosses it early enough to be considered out of the play or he gets nailed. Make him the priority guy to hit on the read-option. Closest guy, run over the QB. Everyone else, play your man.

    Sure, you will give up a big run play or two, but how many plays til either the player gets hurt and/or worn down, or the coach quits calling that play for fear of getting his QB killed.

    These guys will be lucky to last two years depending on how many good defenses they play.

    Otherwise, good pickup.

  17. norcalmafia says: Mar 28, 2013 7:45 PM

    The sehawks will always be the “little brother ” to Frisco..Huge fan base huge market and the Niners have a bunch of stars tons of tradition and 5 S.B. trophies..then you have the jealous little rats from the most depressing place on earth who root for an expansion team with 0 rings and their most famous player is B Bosworth..haha..what a bunch of terds.We share our region with another pro franchise and still have a way bigger fanbase than those lames..Then they go crying when they come to Candlestick that Niner fans are to rowdy and all gang members….wah wah wah…

  18. ncm42 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:46 PM

    He’d probably be a decent backup to Kaepernick. Wilson isn’t a 49er, so I’m guessing he’s not all that important to what SF wants to run for 16 games + playoffs

  19. voiceofsweetness says: Mar 28, 2013 7:46 PM

    Defenses will start hitting the QB no matter if he pitches it, keeps it or passes it. They will hit the QB even if it means taking a penalty for a late hit or personal foul. After enough qb’s are hit hard enough and enough even “minor” injuries occur the read-option will start to become an non-option. It may be a couple yrs but it will happen

  20. rao50858 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:50 PM

    I’m not sure why anyone would use up a roster spot just to fill this role. Why not let an extra defensive back fill the role? They would be about the same size also and I suspect most of them were quarterbacks in high school. Money spent on player salary has become way too important for this type of luxury.

  21. goldrush36 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:53 PM

    But White can’t pass and Wilson can…. Oh well I can’t say I’m against trying. Not like he will beat out Tolzien for backup anyway

  22. EJ says: Mar 28, 2013 7:53 PM

    White was ahead of his time. He is just like the new line of Quarterback that has broken its way into the NFL. Just like RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick and Newton. Had he been drafted now instead of the past, he might of actually had a chance. There is a couple more of these read-option QB’s coming out in this years draft, E.J. Manuel and Geno Smith. Both will be drafted before the second round ends and both will probably make it as an eventual starter. White may not ever have the chance to start again in his career, but running the scout team for the 49ers is a lot better than just warming the bench.

  23. dryzzt23 says: Mar 28, 2013 7:57 PM

    Dennis Dixon anyone?

    Tim Tebow is BETTER than Wilson, White, and Dixon combined. Plus Tebow would bring in fans to the stadium, not that there are many Christians in San Fran but still.

  24. lionsdraftguy says: Mar 28, 2013 7:58 PM

    Is there any way they can turn White into a plug to stick in Harbaugh’s mouth??

  25. mustangqb9 says: Mar 28, 2013 8:07 PM

    I thought we were talking about Read Option here? Are you guys that are talking about the QB pitching the ball actually watching the offense that the Seahawks and 49ers run? (which by the way, are both significantly different to each other)

    If we were talking about veer option, speed option or triple option, you would have a point. The read option as it’s been run in the NFL so far has the QB pitching the ball in extremely rare occasions.

  26. randallflagg52 says: Mar 28, 2013 8:09 PM

    Look, I actually like the 49ers and respect their history as should everyone. They are also a top team in the league.

    However guys like that norcalmafia dude are the worst type of fan, and make it hard to say anything positive about the team. People like him have have been invisible up until Harbaugh showed up, and seem to forget their team was a laughing stock for the majority of this century. Say what you will about Seattle, but they were a pretty dominate team during the Hasselbeck/Holmgren/Alexander era.

    Ravens fan BTW, so I’m neutral here. Can’t claim I’m biased against the 9ers since the Ravens won.

  27. southpaw79 says: Mar 28, 2013 8:15 PM

    Why do the Niners need to do a bunch to stop Wilson? When Wilson played the Niners in San Fran his stats were 9 of 23 122 yards and a pick, 6 total points scored. This was when the niners D was healthy and the game ment a LOT!.

    If the Seahawk fans want to complain that that was only Wilson’s 7th start, maybe you should rethink bashing Kaepernicks showing on the road against the Seahawks! That was only Kaeps 7th start and he went 19/36 244 yards 1 TD, 1 INT after the Niners were already confirmed to be in the playoffs. So which stat line looks better to you?

  28. captainphintastic says: Mar 28, 2013 8:15 PM

    Tebow?!?! Isn’t he the guy that’s about to come out of the closet??

  29. brenenostler says: Mar 28, 2013 8:18 PM

    matthewcarlson1 says:
    Mar 28, 2013 7:19 PM
    Anybody else think the Seahawks and Russel Wilson are overrated? I didn’t say they aren’t good, just overrated.
    __________________________________

    Yes! Thank you!

  30. voiceofsweetness says: Mar 28, 2013 8:24 PM

    @shaunypoo,
    I guess I was typing at the same time as you. ECHO!

    @mustangqb9 ,
    Doesn’t matter if the qb is handing the ball off or pitching it. The defense focuses on hitting the QB and this goes away. It will (in my mind) be worth a couple flags to punish the qb especially if that qb is in your division.

  31. lbmclean says: Mar 28, 2013 8:25 PM

    As I Dolphins fan I say going from Tony Sparano to Harbaugh is a world of difference

    its like going from a community college to MIT

  32. mrlynch33 says: Mar 28, 2013 8:33 PM

    All I can say is that he was only in the league for one year. Also, he was on the dolphins at their lowest of lows.

    Its very possible he got a bum rap.

  33. promickey says: Mar 28, 2013 8:33 PM

    Wow, Pat White goes from being a 2nd round draft choice to a scout-team quarterback. Only the arrogant Bill Parcells could make such a huge mistake.

  34. axlviking says: Mar 28, 2013 8:37 PM

    Pat White will be playing Russell Wilson? How?? In a mirror???

    Apparently, the Niners believe Russell Wilson will be goin’ southpaw in 2013. :)

  35. miamatt says: Mar 28, 2013 9:07 PM

    Pat White was atrocious in Miami. Not an NFL caliber thrower, or decision maker. Literally crumbles under contact.

    He had a few ok runs in a limited role, but every throw fluttered way off target. Hard for me to see how he could do a good enough Wilson impersonation to warrant a roster spot. Trust me, you don’t want this guy playing in a real game. Ever.

  36. ripster65 says: Mar 28, 2013 9:07 PM

    cakemixa says:
    Mar 28, 2013 7:16 PM

    This only makes sense if he was as good as Wilson.
    ———————————
    Give Harbaugh about 2 weeks (like he had w/A. Smith 2yrs. ago) with White and they’ll be just fine. Seems like everything they do winds up being the right decision somewhere down the line.

  37. annes22 says: Mar 28, 2013 9:32 PM

    Please Pat White sucks. He left the Dolphins for Baseball and he can’t play that either.
    Good luck who ever picks him up, hope he can do something, but I doubt it.

  38. 49ertrojanmann says: Mar 28, 2013 9:49 PM

    @ dryzzt23

    bringing fans into the stands is not a problem the 49ers have. plus bringing tebow on the roster, (through no fault of his own) would turn it into a circus. Sorry, Im not a religious person but I was a big fan of tebow mania, just dont want the media circus tebow brings with him.

  39. decon49 says: Mar 28, 2013 9:50 PM

    so defenses haven’t been hitting qb’s hard already? both qb’s stay in the pocket and are pretty good about sliding and running ot of bounds

  40. seaeagle707 says: Mar 28, 2013 10:02 PM

    “The 49er’s ………have a problem.”

    Actually, they’ve got a lot of them. But to think about hiring a guy to deal with our QB. That says a ton, about the respect that Harbaugh, has for the Hawks. You haters on here that dismiss us out of hand, should look to your coach’s example and learn something. If we really were the pushovers you make us out to be, I doubt that JH, would be thinking about hiring White.

    But don’t let me stop you from enjoying the Hater KoolAid.

  41. raiderapologist says: Mar 28, 2013 10:03 PM

    norcalmafia says: Mar 28, 2013 7:45 PM

    The sehawks will always be the “little brother ” to Frisco..Huge fan base huge market and the Niners have a bunch of stars tons of tradition and 5 S.B. trophies..then you have the jealous little rats from the most depressing place on earth who root for an expansion team with 0 rings and their most famous player is B Bosworth..haha..what a bunch of terds.We share our region with another pro franchise and still have a way bigger fanbase than those lames..Then they go crying when they come to Candlestick that Niner fans are to rowdy and all gang members….wah wah wah…
    ————-
    You must be really intimidating in person, Nancy.

  42. rajbais says: Mar 28, 2013 10:06 PM

    That’s a pile of garbage!!!

    Read option QBs will become REAL QBs next year because they and their OC’s aren’t that stupid to just stagnate!!!

    Get backup QBs that can scout MULTIPLE TYPES then!!!

    My god!!! Aren’t there QBs that can’t throw, but have to switch positions on every team??? They can be on scout teams too!!!

  43. leggett17 says: Mar 28, 2013 10:23 PM

    The little fella is a bust. You actually have to have a body that can take a pounding and a brain to read defenses.

  44. mustangqb9 says: Mar 28, 2013 10:33 PM

    @voiceofsweetness

    Yes i fully agree you need to hit the QB no matter what. Any defense properly geared to stop the option will repeatedly hit him, ball in his hands or not.

    But that wasn’t the point of my post.

  45. bullpuppy552 says: Mar 28, 2013 11:55 PM

    Pat White?? bwa hahahahahahahaha!! What is he? 5’10” and 140 pounds? The guy absolutely stunk when he tried the do something previously in the NFL. 49ers are wasting their time with that scarecrow.

  46. allidoiswin55 says: Mar 29, 2013 12:02 AM

    Where do I begin…. Hmmm

    First, White must be able to pass! Or he’s not giving a good look, Wilson passes first and runs to extend plays sort of like Steve young did. Not like Vick, not even like RG3 or Kaep, of all of those Wilson is the most advanced as a well rounded qb, Kaep is a close second on physical ability but he simply doesn’t read coverage well as Wilson (yet.)

    Also unless the scout team has a copy of Marshawn Lynch, a Percy Harvin, and solid Te, and a couple elusive receivers and am few all pro offensive lineman how do you plan to get a good look?

    Stop it! One of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard from an delusional fan was saying Tebow or even Dixon is better than Wilson. C’monnnnn bro.

    This is the NFL, what I expect from a quality team is to do what seahawks and niners teams usually do, WHICH IS PERFECT WHAT THEYYYYY CAN CONTROL .. Not worry as much about the opponent but rather perfect your own scheme.

    That’s what makes these teams some of the best in the league they are good at what they do and try to impose their own will, playing catch up is a bad idea. People coming to this conclusion do not understand football and show how scared you are of the Seahawks (not that should be and not that all of you are) . But obviously some are if they are will to take a cast off player to specify scout the Seahawks.

    Also stop with the hit the qb every option play, you do realize with player safety rules that person will get flagged and fined repeatedly. Hits on qbs that might injure them would be massive, and whose to say a shotgun play fake pass is any different than an shotgun read option play where the qb dumps the ball off or rakes off and slides down. Try hitting that qb and you won’t make enough money to pay all the fines you will occur. Because then you’ll be hitting a Brady, Manning, or Brees type qb, you can’t say your allowed to hit a qb bc he’s and option to run but not be allowed to hit an qb bc he rarely runs. That is a problem no one’s wants to address. Before you say it they are NOT RUNNING dive option plays so when will the DE or defensive player get a clean shot on a qb when the design of the play is still to protect the qb.

    Both Kaep and Wilson are capable passers if the qb can’t pass, he will rely on running for success and eventually that will catch up to him. Even if not on a designed run.

    Lastly to the fool talking about paying a guy to give a good look is better than paying a guy on the bench. PLEASE RETHINK that idea. He will be practicing and riding the pine during games. That bench player practices just like that good look qb would and BOTH would ride the bench. Using a rb as a scout team qb also is stupid, it’s called a wildcat everyone knows what’s going to happen, the reason read option plays are successful is bc their is a realistic pass threat. That defeats the purpose of a scout team to show a look that is nothing like what they will see.

    Also Wilson will slide behind the line of scrimmage to avoid contact and protect the team, that will frustrate defenses but shows his awareness and his intelligence, him and Kaep won’t take hits especially Wilson even if it means an loss of yards.

  47. goldenperspective says: Mar 29, 2013 12:14 AM

    Hit the qb huh? hit em really hard right? Kapernick is not Flutie sized. He is 6’5” and 235 pounds. That is as big as some linebackers.Bigger than every secondary player in the league. Unless he gets blindsided (doubtful because he has already read the d before he took off) or 250 pound plus guys can run as fast as Kap, he will be fine.

  48. mistersmith22 says: Mar 29, 2013 12:37 AM

    The Ravens sure got their money’s worth locking Dennis Dixon down on the practice squad — pretending to be RGIII, Kaepernick, etc. If you need to face something special might as well practice against the closest approximation.

  49. fishyinalittledishy says: Mar 29, 2013 1:13 PM

    When Pat White was hit running for the sideline i felt the defender i am sure it was against the Steelers should have ushered him out of bounds. He just looked like a boy playing a mans game. I have never seen such a over matched incident in my football watching career.

  50. kevinkindeer says: Mar 29, 2013 2:16 PM

    cosanostra71 says:
    Mar 28, 2013 7:31 PM
    The Seahawks are chasing the Niners, not the other way around. The 49ers are two time defending NFC West Champions.

    That would be why the article said “holding off the Seahawks,” moron.

  51. kevinkindeer says: Mar 29, 2013 2:19 PM

    fishyinalittledishy says:
    Mar 29, 2013 1:13 PM
    When Pat White was hit running for the sideline i felt the defender i am sure it was against the Steelers should have ushered him out of bounds. He just looked like a boy playing a mans game. I have never seen such a over matched incident in my football watching career.

    Me either and it was Ike Taylor. It was downright scary. I yelled to my wife, “My god! Ike Taylor just killed Pat White!”

  52. firstnovaprime says: Mar 29, 2013 2:50 PM

    We need somebody that can play if needed, not
    a scout team QB! I say Nay! White is not the answer
    for the backup position. He couldn’t even make it
    in Miami!

  53. seanpscott says: Mar 29, 2013 4:06 PM

    I heard “it’s a fad and won’t last” about another offense a while back…it’s called the West Coast Offense. How’d that work out? Kaepernick can straight outrun guys and he slides to avoid the big hit but you can get injured in the pocket too. Ask Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Joe Montana, Joe Theismann, etc!

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