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If Flynn deal doesn’t work out, Raiders have interest in Kolb

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Despite the talk that a trade sending quarterback Matt Flynn from the Seahawks to the Raiders was imminent on Friday night, it still hasn’t happened as of Saturday morning. And if it doesn’t happen, the Raiders may have a Plan B in Kevin Kolb.

Adam Caplan reported that the Raiders have discussed signing Kolb, the free agent quarterback who was cut by the Cardinals this month.

The issue may be that the Raiders, who have just $2.8 million in cap space, will want Flynn to restructure his contract as part of a trade from the Seahawks. If Flynn refuses, the Raiders may try to get Kolb to sign a deal that will cost less on their salary cap in 2013 than Flynn would cost under his current contract.

The arrival of either Flynn or Kolb would lead to the departure of Carson Palmer, who now appears unlikely to play for the Raiders this season. The Raiders traded a first-round pick and a second-round pick for Palmer, who gave them a total of 24 starts, in which they went 8-16. Which doesn’t exactly instill a lot of confidence in Raiders fans about the wisdom of giving up more draft picks for Flynn.

Which may mean signing Kolb is a better move.

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  1. floratiotime says: Mar 30, 2013 6:51 AM

    Backup QBs are usually terrible. I’m amazed that teams fall for this scam every off season. But hey, the Raiders have been getting taken to the woodshed for years. Why stop now.

  2. the3rain3maker says: Mar 30, 2013 6:56 AM

    Brokeland Raiders: Matt Flynn.

    Seattle Seahawks: Run DMC, Denarious Moore, Taiwan Jones, and cash considerations.

    GO HAWKS!

  3. socalraider909 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:00 AM

    At this point I really don’t care who we sign just dump Palmer and let’s start looking forward to next year’s draft

  4. tatum064 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:03 AM

    From ok to oh-no!!!

    Reggie what are you doing to us…?!

  5. fanofevilempire says: Mar 30, 2013 7:05 AM

    what’s the difference, both are losers!

  6. MyTeamsAllStink says: Mar 30, 2013 7:07 AM

    if they sign Kolb you know they’ll draft Geno Smith then.

  7. rprudhomme says: Mar 30, 2013 7:14 AM

    Please noooo!!!

  8. matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:22 AM

    I think Kolb sufficiently proved he can’t be a starter.

  9. osiris33 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:34 AM

    Yeah Kolb might be a better move, except that Fynn is 10 times better

  10. tenotnamedmiller says: Mar 30, 2013 7:37 AM

    So pretty much any below average qb will be fine for the raiders.

  11. shieldsisland37 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:47 AM

    If you put a bunch of good receivers around both of these guys, Flynn is going to be the better QB. Im not sure there is anyone on the planet who will dispute that.

  12. benroethlisberger7 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:53 AM

    LOL! The Failders always find a way to come up short!

  13. mancave001 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:54 AM

    matthewcarlson1: “I think Kolb sufficiently proved he canโ€™t be a starter.”

    —I completely disagree with that statement (as an Eagles fan no less). Kolb hasn’t proven anything because he’s never had a consistent chance to. He’s never had a chance to be a consistent starter with a decent team around him. Every time he gets named the starter, he either gets injured or an idiot coach decides to play QB carousel. He played well in Philly when the line was good, and got injured immediately when it was bad. Same story in Arizona…a freak injury or two, a bad couple games behind a horrible line, and all of a sudden AZ fans are screaming to get rid of him. It’s too bad…I’d just like to see the guy get a solid year or two.

  14. vikesfan2010 says: Mar 30, 2013 7:57 AM

    I think they have a better chance with Terrell Pryor than kolb or flynn

  15. gbraider says: Mar 30, 2013 8:17 AM

    I believe we had 2.8 mil in cap space before cutting Tommy Kelly. So around 7.8 mil of space now seems right……

  16. gbraider says: Mar 30, 2013 8:18 AM

    And then cutting Palmer would take around another 5 mil off I think

  17. bigbluefanuk says: Mar 30, 2013 8:25 AM

    Kolb played well for someone with literally no o-line protecting him. How many people simply don’t watch football? Are you forgetting arizona’s start to last season and how their fortunes changed when kolb was broken? I’m a giants fan so I’m impartial here…

  18. peytonsneck18 says: Mar 30, 2013 8:25 AM

    why dont they give Pryor a chance to start and prove himself, they used a 3rd round pick on him, why not let him play? if anything u will get the 1st pick next year and get u a franchise QB then, cause this year isnt the draft with a franchise QB, and no geno smith isnt a franchise QB or barkley

  19. dalucks says: Mar 30, 2013 8:29 AM

    I thought the days of recycling underachieving quarterbacks was over. Maybe I was wrong.

  20. justafanofitall says: Mar 30, 2013 8:37 AM

    Flynn could be a starter anywhere. To be successful you have to have an offensive line that will give you time to pass. Flynn and Wilson had pretty much the same stats in preseason but Seattle elected to go with youth…run option…just as 49ers did. That being said…not sure he’ll get a chance to prove what he can do with the state the Raiders are in personnel wise.

  21. pksullivanmha says: Mar 30, 2013 8:41 AM

    Lol. Lucky Flynn, Kolb is probably praying. @footballady52. ๐Ÿˆ

  22. securb2013 says: Mar 30, 2013 9:06 AM

    Miami was smart signing Matt Moore he will be great trade bait on draft day.

  23. officialgame says: Mar 30, 2013 9:16 AM

    Flynn is a average backup. Kolb is an average backup. Why would a team give up a draft pick and pay more money to obtain Flynn when they could get the same performence from Kolb. Neither one is a franchise QB.

  24. abty7 says: Mar 30, 2013 9:26 AM

    You know what Kolb offers- a slightly below league average starter that a team with a plus defense can potentially win with (last year, prior to injuries PFF had Kolb as a +5)… Flynn is more of the mystery here- hasn’t had a chance to ‘be the guy’ yet and McKenzie knows him well from their time in Green Bay- Personally, I see Flynn as nothing more than Ryan Fitzpatrick however who knows? Maybe he can produce like Andy Dalton or Alex Smith?

  25. FinFan68 says: Mar 30, 2013 9:32 AM

    I’m sure there are other teams with decent backup QBs they could trade for. Mallett and Moore are also possibilities.

  26. rublestiltzkin says: Mar 30, 2013 9:34 AM

    When a guy just seems to always get hurt like Kolb does, guess what? He’s just not that durable. Terrelle Pryor is just not good at all. No, Pryor is wicked terrible. Flynn is there best shot to progress and bring up the win total in each of the next two years. But don’t fool yourself, Flynn is NOT a playoff caliber qb

  27. johnnyoclock says: Mar 30, 2013 9:45 AM

    Remember Kolb was named twice NFC player of the week in his first 5 (I think 5) starts. Total diamond in the rough who you just have to give him a team around him he’ll flourish.

  28. urlacher54 says: Mar 30, 2013 9:46 AM

    The Raiders GM worked in GB for years. He knows exactly what he would get with Flynn. This trade is happening.

  29. fiyeaglesfiy says: Mar 30, 2013 9:53 AM

    Why can’t they just draft a QB in the first or second round and develop them? I understand if they were an established veteran team that needed a stud QB to put them into contender status. But they have great draft position and holes at almost every position. The name of the game is patience. Geno should be available at 3 or there’s a handful of guys in round 2. Start building through the draft with rookie contracts and you won’t be stuck with cap issues.

  30. paulsaddy says: Mar 30, 2013 10:09 AM

    As long as the Raiders understand that 2013 is already gone, the might as well start building for next years’s draft. I would put in a QB that you can sign to a very cheap contract and shoot for the #1 overall pick next year. I would also consider trading as many 2013 picks this year for higher ones in 2014. Then next they can rebuild for cheap next year.

  31. raiderla says: Mar 30, 2013 10:14 AM

    What does ppl see in Pryor so much I can’t see ?? He is not good do you guys she how he throws the ball? What y’all want a QB running every down that’s weak. Any of these QB we bring in is better then what we have on the bench. Palmer wants to much noodle arm give him the boot pick up kolb draft geno and let the competition start C’mon raider nation lets talk smart football I think Reggie knows what he’s doing Flynn would be in oakland right now if he knew Flynn was gonna be a starter . I believe we draft Geno he’s gonna be our starter kolb number two Pryor three cut ties with Matt ..

  32. oreo51 says: Mar 30, 2013 10:14 AM

    Peyton Manning would not be able to win with the Raiders roster. Flynn is just what they need. He is hungry to start and young enough to not care about the beating he is going to take. Pryor was a wasted draft pick or Oakland would not be shopping for a QB.

  33. raiderla says: Mar 30, 2013 10:17 AM

    In so many words I’m saying Pryor is not the future neither

  34. rubicon202 says: Mar 30, 2013 10:22 AM

    I’m partial to Kolb because Pryor could actually compete, we save future draft picks and not acquire more dead cap space if things don’t work out.

  35. robf2010 says: Mar 30, 2013 10:36 AM

    “Backup QBs are usually terrible”

    Not always, though. Brett Favre’s last backup in Green Bay is doing OK and so is Drew Bledsoe’s backup in New England. Joe Mantana’s backup in San Francisco is in the Hall of Fame. Sometimes, it works out.

  36. patswillreign says: Mar 30, 2013 10:37 AM

    Raiders sign Donovan McNabb and bring in Brett Favre for a work out.

  37. eljefe322 says: Mar 30, 2013 10:43 AM

    Kevin Kolb would not be a better move, and any reporter who writes that should lose his job.

  38. gbpakrfan says: Mar 30, 2013 10:44 AM

    Doesn’t matter who Oakland gets in there for a QB as long as they have poor offensive lines and below average receiving corp….McFadden can’t do it all when he’s able to play

  39. seahog23 says: Mar 30, 2013 10:44 AM

    I think flynn is underestimated. He had bad luck landing in seattle and having wilson drafted right after that. Wilson is so dynamic and was able to adapt quicker than flynn. If given the chance i believe flynn would prove to be a valuable QB. That being said him being our backup gives me comfort if wilson were to go down, so if he stays i wont complain. But if he is traded im sure whoever gets him would be quite happy with him if they let him start and get used to the system and people hes playing with.

  40. dcrespo24 says: Mar 30, 2013 10:49 AM

    The Raiders were 2.8 millunder the cap the day before they cut Tommy Kelly. Cutting him freed up 5mill. Doesn’t that put the Raiders 7.8 mill under the cap?

  41. souldogdave says: Mar 30, 2013 10:50 AM

    Bad situation regardless, Matt Flynn is a much better option than Kolb. The Raider Nation will groan and tune-out if that loser comes here. Much better to do or die with Pryor for the year, draft a kid in lower rounds.

  42. nflfolly says: Mar 30, 2013 11:06 AM

    Nobody wants to play in Oakland now.
    Reggie Mckenzie
    has lost most of the quality talent he had in 1 year and is unable to attract free agents because he is absolutely clueless. Flynn most likely does not want
    to play there . If McKenzie signs Kolb 0-16 is possible.

  43. raidernation81601 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:13 AM

    why would we pay almost ten mill to cut palmer and then pay an inferior Q.B. the remaining 3 to 5 mill just bite the bullet this year with palmer you wont spend the money better with some ones back up
    so either dump him pick up a QB for league minimum play pryor and move on next year or pay palmer anything else would be stupid

  44. indyraiderfan says: Mar 30, 2013 11:20 AM

    Flynn=Hoss

  45. claymus1 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:32 AM

    All other factors being equal (which I do not think they are ) Matt Flynn is clearly the better option based on the fact that he really has no significant injury history. Kolb is simply not duable enough to hang your team’s fortunes upon.

  46. claymus1 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:32 AM

    Durable, sorry.

  47. tdk24 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:35 AM

    Just watched highlights from Flynn on youtube. Anyone else thinking this could be a Pioli/Cassel 2.0?

  48. tdk24 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:36 AM

    Trade Palmer, sign Kolb, start Pryor. And if it doesn’t work….Hello Johnny Football!

  49. icewalker946 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:36 AM

    If all it takes is a good offensive line to make a good QB then how is Aaron Rodgers so dang good?

  50. bkh405 says: Mar 30, 2013 11:39 AM

    Don’t waste your time Raiders. You want success? Build from the inside out. Gotta have an offensive line to keep ANY QB upright first.

    Do the right thing, hope you can score Joekel or take Fisher. Don’t waste a pick on a QB two teams have already gotten rid of!

  51. chipwade says: Mar 30, 2013 11:52 AM

    If the Raiders don’t trade draft picks for Flynn, the only player on their roster that would be an improvement to Seattle’s roster is Janakowski.

  52. 49erdynasty says: Mar 30, 2013 11:54 AM

    Why do the Raiders remind me of that MAD-TV segment “Lowered Expectations” ? lol

  53. nomoreseasontix says: Mar 30, 2013 12:01 PM

    It’s kinda funny that, according to certain pundits/bloggers, the Raiders can lose cap space without doing anything at all.

    According to them, it just seems to evaporate.

    Tomorrow they’ll be $2m over… without even picking up the phone.

  54. walstibchris says: Mar 30, 2013 12:14 PM

    After cutting Tommy Kelly, the Raiders have about 7.3 million in cap space – not 2 plus million referenced in the article written prior to his release. This places the Raiders 15th in the NFL cap space list and they have other moves they can make to create more space. Even with all the dead money, the Raiders have successfully put their cap issues behind them and can now move forward with or without Carson Palmer.

  55. goldrush36 says: Mar 30, 2013 12:20 PM

    Kolb was NFC player of the week twice because of Reid and the system and faced shoddy secondaries on top of it. He was mediocre even with Fitz. Flynn still has hidden potential. If I were the raiders though I would trade for Mallet or hell even wait for Colt McCoy to be cut. They are on Kolb’s level at the least and raiders wideouts are better than Cleveland’s

  56. dinot33 says: Mar 30, 2013 12:45 PM

    Ok, when Reggie dumps Palmer the Raiders will have about $30M in “dead money” this year from the past bad contracts and financial decisions. Next year, because all this dead weight has been cut, they will only have $7M in dead money. Better QB’s in next years draft as well. Expect a much busier free agency next spring. Fixing this organization is a process and things are getting better, the right way.

  57. djjackson81 says: Mar 30, 2013 1:02 PM

    Arizona fan here and FYI yes Kolb had a bad line in AZ because of Ackles be lost on IR all year and rookies being forced into action. Graves and Wiz. bad signing of Adam Snyder as a guard. Kolb had three pretty good receivers. What’s that one guys name Larry Fitzgerald or something? Roberts and Floyd not to mention how many of those games that were won at the beginning of the year before Kolb fell were won mostly because AZ defense. Kolbs record was actuall 3-2 as starter last year before he was lost all season. Of course Kolbnwould be an interest for OAk. If they are looking at finding a guy they can afford. The closer we get to teams roster being filled up the more chance Kolb will have to settle for what ever he can get.

  58. squared80 says: Mar 30, 2013 1:14 PM

    I don’t understand this hoopla about Matt Flynn. A couple good games against crap teams who had nothing to play for. The Seahawks swindled themsleves. Again. For the unp-teenth time with Carroll at the helm.

  59. prideandpoise says: Mar 30, 2013 1:21 PM

    If McKenzie thinks Flynn can be the franchise guy then get him. If he is looking for a stopgap at QB, save the draft pick for a QB and sign Kolb.

    Cheaper and smarter.

  60. belgaron says: Mar 30, 2013 1:31 PM

    “Which may mean signing Kolb is a better move.”

    —-

    Unless they consider things like ability to play quarterback.

  61. joeyashwi says: Mar 30, 2013 1:32 PM

    Just because Flynn was a backup in Green Bay doesn’t mean he isn’t starter quality. Brunell, Hasselback, and Rodgers are all recent Green Bay backups who have done quite well. Favre, Brady, Schaub, Steve Young…all backups. All Flynn needs is a chance. He is much closer to being an Aaron Rodgers than to being a Kolb. Not saying he is a Rodgers, just saying he is much better than given credit. Six TD passes and 480 yards in a game was more than some QBs threw in a month last season. (Ponder….)
    Whoever makes Flynn a starter will do very well.

  62. norcalsportsknowledge says: Mar 30, 2013 1:54 PM

    Hawks are trying to do to the Raiders, what Green bay did to the Hawks. Find a sucker for a one game wonder. Good luck finding someone as foolish as the Hawks!

  63. raiddawgz says: Mar 30, 2013 2:00 PM

    I remember a lot of the same comments were said of Jim Plunket who went on to win a Super Bowl. The Pundits make stuff up and all the fans ride the wave. Let Reggie do his job.

  64. seaeagle707 says: Mar 30, 2013 2:41 PM

    Personally, I wish the Hawks would keep Flynn. Pete and John have to realize that quality insurance usually costs more. If-perish the thought-anything should happen to Wilson, we aren’t going to want some “other team’s reject”, having to try and run our dominant offense.

    No slight to Raiders, they deserve a decent QB too. I just don’t want to sacrifice our chances for a SB run, to clear a few bucks under the cap.

  65. tdubdizzle says: Mar 30, 2013 2:42 PM

    “The issue may be that the Raiders, who have just $2.8 million in cap space,”

    That is not the issue considering they cut Tommy Kelly March 27th and received $4.8 million in cap relief. Therefor, cap issue is not the problem here.

  66. vipod4ever says: Mar 30, 2013 2:46 PM

    If they sign Korn Kolb, then part of the contract should stipulate removing that piece of dirt under his lip.

    Seriously, we know what Kolb is, sure no o-line, but the guy is a statue. The NFL still has no idea what Flynn can do given the right oppurtunity, he’s also somewhat mobile, and his accuracy seems to be excellent on short-to-medium throws, he does not have a rocket of an arm however.

    Cross-roads for Reginald here, if Flynn signs, he’s your guy. If Kolb signs, he’s a trial qb for 2013.

    Pay Flynn less, with bonus incentives, and show us that you are the guy that won the BCS and MVP for LSU.

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