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Carson Palmer deal done, for next to nothing

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The Cardinals added another quarterback Tuesday, and they didn’t have to give up much to get him.

According to Adam Schefter of ESPN, the Cards completed the deal with the Raiders in exchange for a conditional seventh-round pick in 2014.

The condition is that he starts 13 games, meaning if he falls short of being the full-time starter, the Cards don’t owe them a thing.

The Raiders had moved on upon acquiring Matt Flynn, so getting Palmer off the payroll was all they really needed. A conditional seventh is just something that allows them to say they didn’t give him away.

UPDATE 1:54 p.m. ET: According to the Cardinals’ official website, the deal actually includes a swap of 2013 picks also, with the Cardinals sending a 2013 sixth-rounder (176th overall) for a Raiders’ seventh-rounder (219th).

So while it is more than a highly conditional 2014 pick, it’s barely greater than if Bag O’Balls had been thrown in.

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84 Responses to “Carson Palmer deal done, for next to nothing”
  1. thraiderskin says: Apr 2, 2013 1:28 PM

    ummm… They gave him away… and I’m good with that. He just needed to be gone.

  2. nomoreseasontix says: Apr 2, 2013 1:28 PM

    They had zero leverage. I’m glad they got anything.
    Now…. Can we get anything for McClain?

  3. nineroutsider says: Apr 2, 2013 1:30 PM

    Before everyone starts ripping Palmer and/or the Cards remember that they have a stellar defense. If Palmer can just stabilize the offense, which I think he can do, they will be an annoyance to the NFC West. The division just got a little tougher. Great deal for the Cards.

  4. aldog83 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    Nothing is right! Thanks Hue.

    We save on the Cap right?

    Anyone know how much?

  5. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator says: Apr 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    As a Raiders fan, the trade for Palmer has to be officially the worst trade ever. At least the new regime had the balls to wash their hands of it, and not have it sink them. We can only go up from here

  6. logicalvoicesays says: Apr 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    Poor Fitzgerald. Another year, another mediocre QB. Demand a trade to Washington to play alongside the best QB and RB in professional Football in Robert Griffin and Alfred Morris, Larry. Coached by the Shanahan, with Garçon and Fred Davis there….UNSTOPPABLE. #RGIIItoFitzgeraldSuperbowls

  7. raiderinva says: Apr 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    A conditional seventh round pick…….

    The Cardinals got taken to the bank.

  8. Kreedos says: Apr 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    Finally a trade where the Cards Dont look like jilted brides.

  9. bigshirk says: Apr 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    As a raider fan, im just glad this scrub is off my team.

  10. floratiotime says: Apr 2, 2013 1:35 PM

    Poor Raiders. Talk about being left with nothing. It’s going to be years to rebuild this mess.

  11. phadedwun says: Apr 2, 2013 1:35 PM

    “A conditional 7th round”.. when does that ever happen? lol..

    *waits for Carson to start 12 games and he was acquired for free*

  12. damcmp says: Apr 2, 2013 1:35 PM

    and cap space too…

  13. aldog83 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:36 PM

    So we traded a 1st and a 2nd for a 7th….maybe…..

  14. deadeye says: Apr 2, 2013 1:36 PM

    The Raiders trade to acquire Palmer was pure genius. Anyone could have seen that it would end like this, trading premium picks for grizzled veterans is always a bad idea.

    RM has his work cut out for him.

  15. jimmysee says: Apr 2, 2013 1:37 PM

    Take heed! That’s the way the world will end.

    Not with a bang – but with a whimper.

  16. piratesofthecoliseum says: Apr 2, 2013 1:38 PM

    THANK GOD!!! They could’ve offered a bag of peanuts and I would’ve been pumped! Oh yeah…..thanx HUE!! Jack@ss!!!!

  17. ulyssesroams says: Apr 2, 2013 1:39 PM

    Personnally I think clearing 13 million in cap space is pretty good. It was probably what made signing Porter possible.

  18. dubv326 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:40 PM

    By trading Palmer for “nothing” Oakland does NOT take any cap hit.. They would have taken a 9mil cap hit if they had released him.. So basically Cards got their man, and Oakland got rid of a player they no longer wanted without paying 9 million dollars… Very good deal for Oakland,, And I’m not even a raider fan.. Reggie Mckenzie is rebuilding that team like it has needed for 9 years.. I’d be very happy if I were a raider fan

  19. surfinbird1 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:41 PM

    This just in! Carson Palmer wants out of Arizona.

  20. crise40g says: Apr 2, 2013 1:42 PM

    A 7th?! I would’ve taken a bag of chips. Big ups to Reg M-C for cleaning house.

  21. banvard316 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:42 PM

    This is an absolute steal for my Cardinals. Palmer is so much better then anything they had and now they can focus on the oline and pass rush in the draft.

  22. fishfiletkray says: Apr 2, 2013 1:43 PM

    He’ll be demanding a trade or release next year.

  23. r8rsfan says: Apr 2, 2013 1:45 PM

    Addition by subtraction – the cap he frees will be turned into several players. Had to be done.

  24. raiderssf says: Apr 2, 2013 1:45 PM

    The Raiders will make it to the Super Bowl before Carson Palmer ever does. Note, I didn’t say the Cardinals, cause I am sure they will have another QB in the next year or so.

  25. phadedwun says: Apr 2, 2013 1:45 PM

    They would have taken a 9mil cap hit if they had released him..

    —————————————–

    …Actually. You’re wrong. The Raiders still owe him the $9 and we are not off the books for that one.

    But it does save the Raiders from paying him anything in subsequent years after this $9m.

  26. jessethegreat says: Apr 2, 2013 1:45 PM

    Welcome back logical voice. With the redskins early exit from the playoffs this year, you must have joined them in taking time for golf and the family? Or we’re you busy helping to get the rust off the redskins 3 ancient Lombardi trophys?

    Just wondering, but what are you going to do when bobby G gets around to that restraining order?

  27. chioeke9 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:45 PM

    Good Riddance

  28. dwoofer says: Apr 2, 2013 1:49 PM

    Welcome, Carson ! Fitz hasn’t stopped smiling for about 3 days now.

  29. justwinsomeday says: Apr 2, 2013 1:51 PM

    ding ding ding……dubv326 wins the prize!!!! You are spot on, trading for anything was a cap win.

    And I agree, RM is doing all the right things with a limited budget and even less talent.

    He inherited a complete mess and has the awareness and guts to do the initial dirty work required to build a solid foundation. It can’t be done in a year but he’s definitely making what he feels are the right moves to get it done right.

    Just a couple examples of how bad it was ($ working off memory but you’ll see the point) – DHB 7+mm with Oak/2mm+ incentives with Indy; Huff 6mm w/Oak, less than 2mm with Balt; then you look at Palmer 13mm and toss in Seymour 15mm, Routt, Kelly…..who teams are not exactly racing to sign.

    AD always over-valued ‘his guys’. It’s been a mess since he let Bruce Allen go – he was a master at working the salaries and cap.

    However, although next year will be tough, the future is looking up.

  30. bgm9876 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:53 PM

    cards have to much qbs. HOW ABOUT DROPING SOME ON such as hoyer.

  31. autumnwind999 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:53 PM

    Incredible. Absolutely incredible.

    Reggie McKenzie is the laughingstock of this league.

  32. aldog83 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    Arizona Needs to Draft the fastest Receiver in this Years Draft!

    To compliment Palmer’s Skill Set…..

    As Carson Palmer is the “MASTER” of the Inopportune “PICK SIX”

    Some one has to be able to chase down DB’s returning Palmer’s Picks to the EndZone!!!!

    (P.S. Arizona Fans,Get ready to see Palmer reach for his helmet with both Hands pretending like it’s the first time He’s thrown a INT!!)

  33. skinswillsurprise says: Apr 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    Don’t respond to logicalvoice people! He makes Skins fans look really bad. HTTR!!

  34. brazy44 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    Glad this drama is over. AZ is garbage, worst then then my Raiders, especially this year. They had a Defense LAST YEAR, but that Defense lost it’s coordinator and both starting safties. I don’t think Palmer starts 13 games, cause he will be hurt by week 5 with the pounding he is going to take behind that horrible O-line.
    IN REGGIE WE TRUST
    MUCH RESPECT TO THE NATION

  35. radrntn says: Apr 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    now that he is gone, lets tell it like it is….that guy is cancer, besides Hue, nobody has come to this guys defense….c-ya, and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. what a puke.

  36. arrogantnation says: Apr 2, 2013 1:57 PM

    Cards are hoping he’ll be Kurt Warner Part II, but I just don’t see it.

  37. jdphx says: Apr 2, 2013 1:58 PM

    “”Now…. Can we get anything for McClain?””

    Rolando or John?

  38. autumnwind999 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:00 PM

    justwinsomeday says:Apr 2, 2013 1:51 PM

    ding ding ding……dubv326 wins the prize!!!! You are spot on, trading for anything was a cap win.

    ———————-

    Sorry, but this is not accurate. Trading Palmer provides no more cap relief than cutting him.

    Actually, if we cut him after June 1 or designated him as a June 1 cut then we could have spread the $9 mil cap hit over this year and next. Now that full $9 mil hit — based on the contract restructure Reggie negotiated with Palmer last off-season to free up cap space then — is absorbed for this season.

    Reggie is obviously throwing away any semblance of this team competing during the 2013 season.

    The question is how low can we go before Mark Davis has to fire Reggie. Will 2-14 do it? 0-16?

    It’s a fair question.

  39. calibear831 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:02 PM

    Has tjere ever been a hall of famer drafted in the 7th round? ?

  40. autumnwind999 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    radrntn says:Apr 2, 2013 1:55 PM

    now that he is gone, lets tell it like it is….that guy is cancer, besides Hue, nobody has come to this guys defense….c-ya, and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. what a puke.

    ———————————

    Actually, no one other than Bengals owner Mike Brown has had anything BUT great things to say about Carson.

    Keep trying to convince yourself that Reggie’s regime is not a dumpster fire though.

  41. stevincinci says: Apr 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    Thanks again Raiders for the draft picks. Funny that Hue Jackson is an assistant with the Bengals. He gets to have a say on who we use that 2nd rounder on.

  42. fpimentel72 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    Ok look I’m not a Raiders fan, I hate them but Matt Flynn is a good QB, to bad that your offense of line can’t protect him and he don’t have any receivers to throw too, in the other hand Carson Palmer has good recievers to throw to, his big target going to be Larry Fitzgarld and the rest of the group. and the line will protect him, so the Cards made the right choice, the Raiders just going to get more and more bad because all of this is Al Davis doings, he just worry about winning and not worry about your cap problem, McFadden should leave because he should play for an contender team.

  43. nomoreseasontix says: Apr 2, 2013 2:04 PM

    Actually, They sent Palmer and a 2013 7th to them for a 2013 6th and a conditional in 2014.

  44. askmarc says: Apr 2, 2013 2:04 PM

    Raiders get AZ’s 6th round 2013 pick

  45. autumnwind999 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:05 PM

    Any Raiders fan saying they’re happy with this deal is lying. It’s a joke.

  46. whynotusecommonsense says: Apr 2, 2013 2:07 PM

    The salary cap is complicated but several people saying the Raiders don’t have a cap hit now are incorrect.

    $9 + million is the cap hit to the Raiders with a trade or a flat out release of Palmer. They save the difference between that and his 2013 salary ($13 mil). They are also off the hook for the remainder of his contract beyond 2013.

    Reggie is taking some cap hits this year so that the future is way more manageable. While it should have/could have been done last year, at least it’s being done. Could be a tough year but the financial future is promising.

    Now it’s going to come down to talent evaluation and coaching. With his first draft pick a compensatory 3rd rounder last year, I’ll withhold judgment just yet.

  47. souldogdave says: Apr 2, 2013 2:07 PM

    Nice move, both sides are happy. Anyone with sour grapes about this is just a whiny gadfly.

  48. raiderbeliever says: Apr 2, 2013 2:08 PM

    Yep, thanks again Hue Jaxxident!

  49. whynotusecommonsense says: Apr 2, 2013 2:09 PM

    $13 million is Palmer’s 2013 salary, not the cap savings in case that wasn’t clear.

  50. gbraider says: Apr 2, 2013 2:09 PM

    Actually we still get the 9 mil cap hit because of the 12 mil (i believe) bonus he received last year. That bonus would have been spread out over the years of the contract but now becomes accelarated hence the 9 mil cap hit. It would have been 15 mil if he were still on the team, this years pro rated cap hit for the bonus and his 13 mil salary. Carson is an unappreciative jerk, we paid him way beyond market value. And I’m tired of people saying he already “restructed x amount of times”…so what, he just got the money up front in bonus’ as opposed to salary. It’s just done that way to lower salary cap hit….he still made same amount of money

  51. snnyjcbs says: Apr 2, 2013 2:11 PM

    It is being reported out of Oakland that the Raiders will receive a 6th round pick from AZ in the 2013 Draft while sending AZ a 7th round pick. And will receive a conditional pick from AZ in 2014.

    Not bad considering the guy has more quit and run in him than Jeff George did, only with less natural talent. I have never witnessed a QB that throws more Pick Sixes in a season than this Squirrel.

  52. scmems07 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:11 PM

    Carson palmer throws for over 4k yards, 61% completion, 22 tds and 14 int, scam newton throws 3800 yards, 57% completion, 19 td and 12 int yet scam is the future and palmer is a scrub. “cam runs and had 8 rushing tds!” he also had 6 fumbles lol. amazing

  53. blackandbluedivision says: Apr 2, 2013 2:14 PM

    20 TD’s and 19 Turnovers. He forgot about that little tidbit.

  54. 1nationraidernation says: Apr 2, 2013 2:19 PM

    well thats another 17 million off next years cap as well…now we are about 80 million under next year’s cap…..plus we got a sixth rounder plus a seventh next year for carson, and a seventh…people can say what they want about reggie’s move thus far, but fact is DHB was not worth 10, Palmer was not worth 3o for the next two, Seymour no way at 18, Huff at 10 had to go, shaunessy, mitchell , meyers, wheeler, not for the money they got elsewhere. Lechler would have been nice to keep just for old time sake, but king has looked solid. Really with either Star, or shariff with the #3, and the players we have signed in free agency… i will keep in open mind and see who else we still add, such as porter today.

  55. raiderredleg says: Apr 2, 2013 2:20 PM

    Palmer signed with AZ for two year and 20 million.

    Basically he thinks it will be 3-4 years before the Raiders ever are even CLOSE to being competitive and the lure of throwing to Larry Fritzgerald instead of a a bunch of unproven and fragile WRs was too much.

    Anyway…I can’t fault CP3 and I tend to agree with him…Dark days ahead for sure for Raider Nation…Maybe not another LOST DECADE like 2002-2011, but not going to have a very good (and deep) roster for quite a while.

    Maybe Reggie can turn it around, but I think hiring Dennis Allen with Knapp and Taver as OC and DC definitely set the franchise back at least two years right off the bat. Fine with getting rid of Hue, but I could have picked three better names than those three.

    At least I can remove the Palmer off my jersey and put Lamonica back on (I did put GEORGE on it for a couple years when he was here…At least when the Raiders crash and burn with QBs they make them use the number of a former Raider legend…Except for Russell…Thank goodness I never bought a #2 jersey!)

  56. latotdabay says: Apr 2, 2013 2:21 PM

    Six pick for Pick Six?

    I’ll take it.

    Better than just releasing him I suppose.

    AZ’s pocketbook now.

  57. justintuckrule says: Apr 2, 2013 2:25 PM

    Bunch of know-nothings on this site.

    AZ pulled off a coup getting Palmer for nothing. Just a few days ago, the Cards were staring at another 3 win season.

    They already have a good defense and WRs in place. If they upgrade their line and find a dependable RB not having 17 names, they will be a tough matchup.

    This is the best team Palmer has been on in his career. They’ll win 9 games minimum.

  58. phinfan says: Apr 2, 2013 2:26 PM

    I wouldnt trade my bag of potato chips for that garbage!!!!

  59. nflfolly says: Apr 2, 2013 2:27 PM

    GM Reggie Mckenzie gets fleeced. Gives away a starting QB for nothing. Raiders 2-14 next year and Reggie sent packing.Palmer ,Wheeler, and Myers were a few of the only bright spots last year and they didnt want to stick around for ongoing Reggie M. train wreck.

  60. raiderredleg says: Apr 2, 2013 2:28 PM

    Regarding the perception that Palmer walked away from the Raiders because of his lack of faith in the organization, Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Monday:

    “I’m not really going to get into all those types of negotiations. I think at the end of the day, when we looked at it, both from his standpoint and our standpoint, we just realized that it was time for us to move on and move forward, and we felt like Matt Flynn gave us a great option.’’

    DEAR GOD…Coach Allen thinks Matt Flynn gave the Raiders a greater chance of winning than compared to having CP3 on the roster!

    Forget about 2013 and mayber 2014…Unless Reggie gets better filling out the coaching staff it doesn’t matter who is on the roster.

  61. yssupasigninnamnotyep says: Apr 2, 2013 2:33 PM

    Come on autumnwind999…what is your problem? For a guy who thinks he knows a lot about the salary cap, you obviously don’t know jack about why it’s being done.

    Grab a clue and figure out that Reggie had absolutely no choice but to dump Palmer for anything he could get. He is doing exactly what needs to be done for future cap relief and to actually field a competitive team going forward.

    Stop with the whining already, the Raiders are in this boat because of Al Davis and Hubris Jackson…don’t blame Reggie.

  62. quizguy66 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:35 PM

    Mike Brown.
    Super Genius.

    The Raiders manage to convert a 1st and 2nd round pick into a 6th rounder essentially. Well done.

    -QG

  63. kwjsb says: Apr 2, 2013 2:44 PM

    So, Less than the Browns got for Colt McCoy?

  64. blackngold4life says: Apr 2, 2013 2:49 PM

    Cardinals get a better QB then they’ve had since Warner, Raiders get Flynn..I know Fitzgerald is happy..Flyer is really unproven but I think it just might work

  65. justwinsomeday says: Apr 2, 2013 2:52 PM

    Sorry but you’re looking at 2013 only. Short-sighted view. This is not a move for 2013 and neither is the most of RM’s moves. This has positive cap impacts beyond 2013.

    Patience autumnwind…the pattern that was set prior to RM was continued ineptitude. At least there’s a game plan now. It may not work, but it has a better chance than none at all.

    —————–
    autumnwind999 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 2:00 PM
    justwinsomeday says:Apr 2, 2013 1:51 PM

    ding ding ding……dubv326 wins the prize!!!! You are spot on, trading for anything was a cap win.
    ———————————

    ———————-

    Sorry, but this is not accurate. Trading Palmer provides no more cap relief than cutting him.

    Actually, if we cut him after June 1 or designated him as a June 1 cut then we could have spread the $9 mil cap hit over this year and next. Now that full $9 mil hit — based on the contract restructure Reggie negotiated with Palmer last off-season to free up cap space then — is absorbed for this season.

    Reggie is obviously throwing away any semblance of this team competing during the 2013 season.

    The question is how low can we go before Mark Davis has to fire Reggie. Will 2-14 do it? 0-16?

    It’s a fair question.

  66. tdk24 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:57 PM

    Well, I guess the Raiders will never see that conditional pick because Palmer is going to get blowed up behind that swiss cheese offensive line. He’ll be like Dennis Quaid in Any Given Sunday.

  67. tdk24 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:14 PM

    “calibear831 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 2:02 PM
    Has tjere ever been a hall of famer drafted in the 7th round? ?”

    _________________________________

    Shannon Sharpe. Along with 8 others.

    Also, Bart Starr was drafted in the 17th round. Just sayin’.

  68. cmc1990 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:14 PM

    swapped 6th pick, cap space, and a quitter off our books. I’ll take it.

  69. raidermike34 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:55 PM

    We got a 6th round Pick for a DIVA!! I will take that any day – Arizona overpaid again, Kolb was a lot mobile now Zona is going to need to need to stock a series of OL Linemen. This guy is not Mobile and he will throw at least 22 interceptions this year – bad habits he could and will not shake off – Good Riddance We have a QB with heart and a passion to play -

  70. deltaoracle says: Apr 2, 2013 3:59 PM

    When Palmer went out to dinner with the Cardinals it should have been at a place with yellow arches outside. I don’t think this will be a Happy Meal for either of the parties.

  71. cmc1990 says: Apr 2, 2013 4:04 PM

    Trading palmer takes the raiders off the hook for his salary for future. They will take a hit this season, but next will have palmer completely off the books. good move for the future.

  72. raidermike34 says: Apr 2, 2013 4:14 PM

    I heard RaiderNation may be up to having 38mil in Cap space next year and a possible 45mil – Sweet looking $$ – we never have been that Cap free friendly in a long time -

  73. drindt says: Apr 2, 2013 4:54 PM

    So many haters, so little time to laugh at them and their comments

  74. johnnyb1976 says: Apr 2, 2013 4:59 PM

    Mike Brown is smiling as he takes Marcus Lattimore at 37. The Bengals just keep getting better. Oakland takes 3 more steps back.

  75. eklypse69 says: Apr 2, 2013 5:59 PM

    We spent a 1st and a 2nd round pick, 13 million dollars, and wasted nearly two seasons on him.

    We got rid of him for a CONDITIONAL 7th round pick.

    There’s logic for you. smh

    Here’s to hoping that Matt Flynn’s similar history turns out to be like a Rodgers/Brady story, and not a Kolb/Cassel story.

  76. pettergriffen says: Apr 2, 2013 6:10 PM

    ya were mad not because of this trade… it was the one where we paid a 1 & a 2 for cp3….

    AND THATS THE ONE WE ALL PRETENDED TO LIKE.

    #TRUTH

  77. pettergriffen says: Apr 2, 2013 6:11 PM

    autumnwind999 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 2:05 PM
    Any Raiders fan saying they’re happy with this deal is lying. It’s a joke.

    YA.. were mad not because of this trade… it was the one where we paid a 1 & a 2 for cp3….

    AND THATS THE ONE WE ALL PRETENDED TO LIKE.

    #TRUTH #RAIDERNATION #REBUILD

  78. pettergriffen says: Apr 2, 2013 6:17 PM

    eklypse69 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 5:59 PM
    We spent a 1st and a 2nd round pick, 13 million dollars, and wasted nearly two seasons on him.

    We got rid of him for a CONDITIONAL 7th round pick.

    There’s logic for you. smh

    ———-
    And what would you do? quit hainging out in your basement dude..

  79. grimmlock42 says: Apr 2, 2013 6:22 PM

    I don’t blame McKenzie at all for what he’s doing. This crap’s been going on for too long now. I can’t even begin to imagine the checkbook the raiders had to pay to these players over the years. I’m gonna start calling Reggie McKenzie, Chef Gordon Ramsey from Kitchen Nightmares for now on. The service here sucks. Nobody has the desire to work. There’s a bunch of over priced under achievers that need to go. The raiders are long overdue for a makeover. Just like kitchen nightmares, you rebuild the restaurant, start fixing the menu and find people that wanna work for you. Pretty soon you’ll start getting customers and get back to our winning ways.

  80. grimmlock42 says: Apr 2, 2013 6:27 PM

    It’s a damn shame that we’re historically one of the best francises in NFL history and still without our own stadium. The NFL needs to do build us a stadium.

  81. mythaimyke says: Apr 2, 2013 7:25 PM

    He wasn’t worth anything! W-O-R-T-H-L-E-S-S

  82. kibblesnvick says: Apr 2, 2013 8:15 PM

    fpimentel72 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    Ok look I’m not a Raiders fan, I hate them but Matt Flynn is a good QB, to bad that your offense of line can’t protect him and he don’t have any receivers to throw too, in the other hand Carson Palmer has good recievers to throw to, his big target going to be Larry Fitzgarld and the rest of the group. and the line will protect him, so the Cards made the right choice, the Raiders just going to get more and more bad because all of this is Al Davis doings, he just worry about winning and not worry about your cap problem, McFadden should leave because he should play for an contender team.
    ************

    Learn to English.

  83. baydude says: Apr 3, 2013 12:51 PM

    Raiders absolutely gave up too much for Palmer, but those congratulating the Bengals for their haul need to take a look at how Cincinnati used that first-round pick (No. 17 overall) last year.

    So far, Dre Kirkpatrick has the look of a backup cornerback – he was a major disappointment in Cincy even before injuring his knee last year.

    The Bengals did a great job fleecing the Raiders … but so far not so good of a job actually using the picks.

    In the end, this could be a deal that doesn’t add much to either the Raiders or Bengals.

  84. raiderapologist says: Apr 3, 2013 1:38 PM

    stevincinci says: Apr 2, 2013 2:03 PM

    Thanks again Raiders for the draft picks. Funny that Hue Jackson is an assistant with the Bengals. He gets to have a say on who we use that 2nd rounder on.
    ————–
    Jackson remains an assistant with the Bengals because no other team will give him anything other than a position job. The Bengals got the best of that Palmer trade, no question, but they used the first pick on a guy that couldn’t put Terence Newman on the bench, and now you’re bragging that Jackson, the guy that engineered the trade for Palmer in the first place, will have a say in how the Bengals spend the next pick. And you’re still stuck with a low ceiling QB that can’t win a playoff game. Enjoy your draft picks. It’s the only thing your team has won since 1990.

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