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Report: John Harbaugh wanted Ed Reed gone

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When safety Ed Reed left the Ravens to sign with the Texans, Baltimore coach John Harbaugh talked about how much he appreciated what Reed had done for the team. But Harbaugh may have been quietly thinking, “Good riddance.”

According to a new report out of Baltimore, the talk that the Ravens and Texans were in a bidding war for Reed was wrong, and in reality the Ravens were happy to see Reed go. Specifically, Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun writes, “Ravens coach John Harbaugh wanted Reed back as much as he wants a root canal.”

At the time that Reed left, Harbaugh said, “Ed has had a major impact on our organization and our community. He is a great player and a great friend. We will always be thankful for what we accomplished together.” Harbaugh did not, however, specifically say that he wanted Reed to stay.

If Preston’s report is correct, and Harbaugh did want Reed out, it may have stemmed from the near “mutiny” that was reported by Mike Silver of Yahoo! Sports during the 2012 season. Reed and Bernard Pollard reportedly led the mutiny, complaining about Harbaugh’s practices and his general treatment of players. That mutiny may have been a factor in Pollard’s release, although Pollard takes issue with that idea.

Harbaugh will surely never say publicly that he wanted Reed gone. But he probably isn’t losing any sleep about losing a player who complained about the way the coach ran practice.

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157 Responses to “Report: John Harbaugh wanted Ed Reed gone”
  1. benroethlisberger7 says: Apr 2, 2013 6:51 AM

    LOL, what a joke of a franchise.

    We have endless amounts of rings, you do not.

    This is why.

  2. braven4evr says: Apr 2, 2013 6:54 AM

    As a Ravens fan, Mike Preston is an “A*****e! With that said, if the Ravens don’t perform up to what we are used to seeing we will be looking to get rid of Harbaugh. It’s his team now; let’s see what he can do!

  3. xstaticonradio says: Apr 2, 2013 6:55 AM

    Or maybe you’re taking this out of context and Harbaugh just really wanted a root canal

  4. fanofevilempire says: Apr 2, 2013 6:55 AM

    well he’s gone!

  5. ravenator says: Apr 2, 2013 6:57 AM

    You should know that Mike Preston has absolutely no credibility. He’s a hack who enjoys stirring the pot to generate page hits. In any event, Ravens are world champs, and the funny thing is their defense is going to be lights out this season. Cheers!

  6. benroethlisberger7 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:01 AM

    Is Mike Preston the only source to this story? If so, it has no credibility.

  7. rboutote says: Apr 2, 2013 7:04 AM

    Whoa…

  8. kwgator says: Apr 2, 2013 7:07 AM

    Ray Lewis helped Ed Reed burn all of his Ravens Gear

  9. brooklynniner19 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:08 AM

    John Harbaugh is the douche bag of the Harbaugh brothers. ;) Go 49ers

  10. tincansailor981 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:12 AM

    Practice? We talking about practice – in my best Allen Iverson voice.

  11. humbleminded85 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:12 AM

    Whether or not this is 100% true we will never know, but one thing is a fact and that is Mike Preston and Ed Reed have butted heads for 10+ years now and with Preston’s track record in Baltimore, people know how much he tries to be the story instead of telling it. Not saying this is true or false(I think it’s true), just saying Preston lives for this attention and I know he will be reading this and every comment on this particular story. He once made up a story about the Buffalo Bills saying Lee Evans was a bad guy and a bad teammate but never presented one fact or quote. It was all “my sources this and that” He’s the Baltimore version of like a Pete Prisco or something…all about attention.

  12. barbasol11111111 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:14 AM

    Mike “Troy smith is a better qb than joe flacco” Preston? Lol…

  13. lapsncaps says: Apr 2, 2013 7:16 AM

    Mike Preston is a hack of a reporter who only likes to stir up controversy. Whatever he says, should be taken with a grain of salt.

  14. ravensdominate says: Apr 2, 2013 7:17 AM

    After reading some of the stuff posted on this site, you’d never know that the ravens just won the super bowl. I love it. Is against the world. People love to hate us.

    Best Franchise in the League

    World Champs

  15. the3rain3maker says: Apr 2, 2013 7:20 AM

    LOL! Ed Reed should learn a thing or two from ‘Bam Bam Killa Kam Chancellor and Earl “Make QB’s Hurl” Thomas about true greatness regarding the safety position.

    Also watching my fellow Syracuse Orange do hurtful things to the Indiana “Pop Corn Pants” Hoosiers with John Harbaugh in attendance made my week amazing.

    “I Got…….2 Tickets To…. Paradise”- Ed “Over Rated” Reed.

    GO HAWKS!

  16. evrybdyhas1 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:22 AM

    Or the obvious fact that he is 35 and not getting, younger, faster or healthier in a fast break NFL.

  17. sewalters79 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:23 AM

    Bottom Line, Ravens are imploding!

  18. steel2372 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:25 AM

    I disagree that the Ravens is the best franchise in the league. I do offer congrats on winning a super bowl. But to make the best franchise in the league you need to win more than two rings. You about 6 going for 7!

    GO STEELERS!!!!

  19. drone501 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:26 AM

    and we do hate you. even before you won the super bowl.

  20. wryly1 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:29 AM

    Harbaugh got his ring with players he inherited; now he has a sub .500 team with a gold-plated QB.

  21. ravensbob says: Apr 2, 2013 7:29 AM

    So did Ozzie, wanted Reed gone. Why the surprise ? reed is done….

  22. tlmoon2112 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:30 AM

    Why is the rapist quarterback from a losing team commenting on this thread?

  23. mike62679 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:33 AM

    Hey benroethlisberger7

    The Pittsburgh Steelers have been around 80 years this year in one name or another and 68 years as the current Steelers. When the Ravens have been around 80 years we’ll have more than 6 rings if we keep average 2 every 17 years.

    _________________________
    LOL, what a joke of a franchise.

    We have endless amounts of rings, you do not.

    This is why.

  24. rocketcrab says: Apr 2, 2013 7:34 AM

    Mike Preston has had a burr up his very large butt ever since Brian Billick refused to give him a job in the Ravens organization years ago. Move along, there’s nothing to see here.

  25. gpry says: Apr 2, 2013 7:35 AM

    Anyone around Baltimore sports knows Preston is a guy who played low level D1. He thinks this makes him an expert on anything related to football. Also remember he is a columnist NOT a reporter. His job is to stir the pot not report facts.

  26. uncletuna says: Apr 2, 2013 7:36 AM

    Well, you can’t have the inmates running the prison…

    …but you have to question the motive(s), credibility and timeliness of a story like this…

  27. tonymustam says: Apr 2, 2013 7:38 AM

    Mike Preston is more than an April fool; he’s an everyday fool. But Preston’s hot air is not a “report” in any way, no sourcing or anything. It should be referenced as baloney, not a report.

  28. edgarcaetano says: Apr 2, 2013 7:41 AM

    seems like a pile of bull to me. Ravens would be happy to have Reed another year (comments about the body language), they just would never pay him the dollars he wanted.

    water under the bridge anyhow, let’s move on to the draft…

  29. kheebner says: Apr 2, 2013 7:41 AM

    Mutiny? I think Harbaugh won that battle

  30. bigbenownsthenfl says: Apr 2, 2013 7:43 AM

    The best franchise in the NFL has 6 rings. And it ain’t the Ratbirds! You try to emulate us, but you only look like the cheap replica of!

  31. twells49 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:43 AM

    John Harbaugh so badly out coached his brother Jim in the Super Bowl, and on the Thanksgiving game it wasn’t even funny!! Jim is a whacko which is why they will not win a super bowl even with all the talent they have!

    Ravens are and will remain the #1 franchise in the NFL!!!!!

  32. Cereal says: Apr 2, 2013 7:51 AM

    Anyone who reads the Baltimore Sun knows that Mike Preston makes things up here & there when it suits him. He’s not interested in the work that goes into true journalism. Its much easier to make wild allegations & guess at things b/c its easier & gets fans riled up….he’s a true hack

  33. explosionsauce says: Apr 2, 2013 7:51 AM

    No wonder 49ers didn’t go after him with a big hole left by Goldson.

  34. jimiinpa says: Apr 2, 2013 7:51 AM

    preston is the chris chase of baltimore

  35. SAV says: Apr 2, 2013 7:52 AM

    It was time for Reed to go and for this defense to get younger…this team will flourish now that all the older Ravens with mouths from old regimes are gone and its truly Harbaughs team.

  36. logicalvoicesayz says: Apr 2, 2013 7:55 AM

    Uh… Preston is known locally to be a pathological liar. The guy has been denied access many a time and smells blood in the water with this non-story, so he’s attacking.

  37. thelongestgoodbye says: Apr 2, 2013 8:01 AM

    So you want the coach in his parting comments to a player to come out and go against his GM and maybe his own recommendation and say I wish he would have stayed?

    What Presto isn’t telling anyone is that in the weeks leading up to it Harbaugh is on record saying he and Ed had talked and texted and he was hopeful that he would be back. So there was a public statement of backing Ed.

    Whether he really felt that way or not, who knows. Everyone in Baltimore loved Ed Reed and he will be missed but he’s simply not worth 5 million a year now. He his a HOF’er and will be missed but it was time to part ways for that amount.

  38. nou04 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:03 AM

    Mike Silver from Yahoo is an idiot anyway. I refuse to read his “reporting” as I have found it to usually be biased junk.

  39. charmcity17 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:04 AM

    Did they really just quote an article written by Mike Preston? Well if that’s the case I have a wall in China I want to sell you.

  40. dickjagger says: Apr 2, 2013 8:05 AM

    For eleven seasons, Ed Reed was the tops in Baltimore. One of the best safeties to play the game. But the last few years his antics became too much!

  41. humbleminded85 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:09 AM

    We should give Presto grades like he does the Ravens after each game…

    Credibility- F

    Respect from peers- F

    Respect form readers- F

    I got to meet John Eisenberg last year at a O’s game, he was a peer of Preston’s and after joking with him about my dislikes for Preston’s way of business and he basically said that his kind of reporting was “Presto’s shtick” He didn’t throw him under the bus but his body language said it all, plus John doesn’t come across like someone would take a jab at a colleague.

  42. sschmiggles says: Apr 2, 2013 8:10 AM

    You can sign whoever you want. You can’t just replace players like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis. They were the face of that franchise. It’s amusing to read all these homers who think they can just plug random guys into that defense.

    That defense’s mental toughness was its greatest asset, and that came straight from Lewis and Reed. Who will lead it now? Terrell Suggs? Lol

  43. esraven says: Apr 2, 2013 8:12 AM

    Lets-trade-Flacco-straight-up-for Kirk-Cousins Mike Preston?

    This guy is the conjecture king.

  44. xinellum says: Apr 2, 2013 8:16 AM

    Preston wants national headlines and will say anything to get them. He was a major Flacco basher during December saying he didn’t have the ability to qb a Super Bowl team and he was what was holding them up. He is the skip bayliss of Baltimore and the guy is a joke. We in Baltimore knows that his reports are simply National Enquirer level accuracy and his relationship with Florio got him some national recognition. Now will you please stop reprinting what this idiot says.

  45. coltzfan166 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:16 AM

    Harbaugh will quickly deny this

  46. edgarpoe3 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:17 AM

    Mike Preston is a Steelers fan who writes his opinions for the Baltimore Sun. He would like people to think he is privy to inside information in the Raven’s camp and has the scoop. But the fact is, he has a make-believe world where he finds his “sources.” He is the anti-journalist. Truth an Preston are no friends. Anyone who has read any of his articles would understand this.

  47. crownofthehelmet says: Apr 2, 2013 8:17 AM

    Preston is a genius.

  48. reed20fence says: Apr 2, 2013 8:18 AM

    Two things:

    First, assuming Harbaugh did have an axe to grind (which is an insane assumption) he isn’t foolish enough to leave crumbs of disgruntled commentary behind the scenes here and there for someone to find. The man would have been metaphorically burned at the stake for forcing out a Baltimore icon against his will that openly.

    Second, the public story makes too much sense. Reed fealt his years of service warranted his writing his own contract, but Dick Cass, Pat Moriarty, and Ozzie fealt they owed him a good faith offer but had to put the cap health and competetive viability of the team first, which is exactly what they did. And look what they’ve accomplished with those precious millions on Free Agency.

    Case closed.

  49. deceman20 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:20 AM

    Mike Preston is a joke. Ask anyone who reads his articles or has listened to him on the radio. He has always disliked Ed Reed. “Ed’s gonna be Ed, you can’t coach him” was his favorite saying. Terrible source for this story.

  50. logicailvoicesays says: Apr 2, 2013 8:23 AM

    All this infighting and gossip is why the Ravens are the kid brothers to the Redskins. Everyone in the Redskins organization always gets along. No one airs dirty laundry because there isn’t any dirty laundry.

    That’s why the Redskins are perennial Super Bowl champions and teams like the Ravens dream of doing well once every decade or two. HTTR.

  51. getyourownname says: Apr 2, 2013 8:31 AM

    Regarding Preston, people used to think he wanted to be a GM, but it’s clear he’s a natural for pft.

  52. scoobies05 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:38 AM

    my favorite post on this is the insane steeler fan who thinks the number 6 is now the “endless number”. and the fact that he is a troll who usually is the first poster on anything ravens

  53. youguysaretotalnerds says: Apr 2, 2013 8:38 AM

    @benroethlisberger7

    You weren’t alive for 4 of your team’s 6 rings. You were alive for the same amount as Ravens fans. Or at least I hope you weren’t, because that would mean a 32+ aged guy gets his kicks from being a troll on a football website. And THAT is a joke.

  54. classyjacklambert says: Apr 2, 2013 8:39 AM

    The Steelers are really the class of the AFC North. Way above the browns, bengals, or imploding junior browns.

  55. ravens4fr says: Apr 2, 2013 8:42 AM

    “But to make the best franchise in the league you need to win more than two rings. You about 6 going for 7!”

    Six rings in 80 years; Two rings in 16 years….I’d ask you to reevaluate your statement. I will take our rate of success against Stiller town any day of the week.

  56. jfkelly1 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:50 AM

    Fans from Baltimore that know Mike Preston’s work, know that he, for some reason, hates the Ravens. Started with his very first artical when he refered to Brian Billick as “Robo Coach” and proceded to rip the team!
    Little or no credence are in Preston’s stories!

  57. getyourownname says: Apr 2, 2013 8:51 AM

    Let’s put it this way.

    Compared to Preston, Skip Bayless is unscripted, thoughtful, objective, well-regarded, and totally on target most of the time.

  58. romoscollarbone says: Apr 2, 2013 8:52 AM

    I just feel like this is all hot air. The CBA lays out what can and can’t happen at practice. It obviously wasn’t bad enough for them to lodge a complaint with the NFLPA. Football is a way of life for these guys, they enjoy practice, because they know it gets them to Sundays.

  59. bleedpurplenblack says: Apr 2, 2013 8:53 AM

    “It’s amusing to read all these homers who think they can just plug random guys into that defense…”

    Yes, that defense that gave up 350.9 yards a game during the regular season.. and 428.2 yards a game in the postseason..

    Amazing how the same people who said Ray Lewis and Ed Reed were washed up last year, are now saying our defense will suffer because they’re gone.

    LOL

  60. pftard says: Apr 2, 2013 8:55 AM

    Wow…, you’re basing that article headline on what a coach didn’t say? what a true example of speculative guesswork, disguised as journalism.

    That’s like having a conversation with your Mom and when she say’s ‘goodbye’ at the end of the call, you accuse her of not loving you, because she didn’t say so.

    I can’t tell if it’s more absurd or stupid, but either way, it simply disregards logic. Either way, its a misrepresentation of facts and a fabrication of the truth. It’s also irresponsible to publish a story that is so not based on facts.

  61. marshmont says: Apr 2, 2013 8:56 AM

    i wanted reed gone too..reed is a diva..thats why when he would have the ball he lateraled it around in a risky fashion,,,because he was ed reed…i really felt john couldn’t like reed..plus his skills are greatly diminished..best to have him gone and build a younger, faster, D..the new D will be much better than the one of 2012..i think jh is a truely great man to lead the ravens for a while..

  62. outsiderj says: Apr 2, 2013 8:56 AM

    Baltimore has 5 rings

    2 World Championships with the Colts
    1 Super Bowl Championship with the Colts
    2 Super Bowl Championships with the Ravens

    Big deal, Pittsburgh has one more.

    Best world championship resume is Green Bay.

    Pittsburgh is nothing.

  63. harrisonhits2 says: Apr 2, 2013 8:59 AM

    Steelers fans seem so desperate to claim how great they are after not even getting to the playoffs last year.

    True champions act like they’ve been there before and don’t run around like a 5 year old screaming “I’m the best I’m the best I’m the best”.

    It’s the difference between confidence and nervousness that you’re headed for an even worse season this year

  64. stigman2012 says: Apr 2, 2013 9:00 AM

    Regardless of the source, let’s just assume this is true for a minute. You mean a head coach wanted to get rid of a guy that was a malcontent and led a near ‘mutiny’ against him? Wow…shocking headlines.

  65. ravensfanindc says: Apr 2, 2013 9:01 AM

    Ed Reed was great “was” but the last couple of years his injuries made him should hot as instead of tackleing recievers. This is the nfl and you cant tackle that way. Thanks Ed it was good while ot lasted just dont be one of thoses superstars that cant let go and ruin a great past.

  66. clssylssy says: Apr 2, 2013 9:03 AM

    This is a garbage story and I’m surprised that Mike Florio would run such garbage. The fans of Baltimore love Ed Reed and Harbaugh isn’t so insecure that he would let a little disagreement (if, in fact it hasn’t been embellished to make good copy) undermine the welfare of the team and Reed’s contribution to the Raven’s successes. The two major losses the Raven’s suffered this offseason were Boldin and Reed. It’s going to be tough not seeing Ray on the field next season but there has been a gigantic hole left by Ed Reed and Anguan Boldin that Baltimore is going to have a tough time filling.

  67. imeanwhatisay says: Apr 2, 2013 9:11 AM

    this is not a story anymore .we here all know that you can’t Buck on harbaugh or u will be in the doghouse,see mckinney. we love reed and wish him well reed will be home soon in the ring of honor .the Texans will bo good with reed but we will be great without him .GO RAVENS

  68. riverhorsey says: Apr 2, 2013 9:13 AM

    I was surprised Reed didn’t stand up to Pollards negative ways. He just followed Pollard.

  69. darkblue08 says: Apr 2, 2013 9:24 AM

    Some of the great QBs has played scared against Ravens defecense. The question is, if Ed Reed was the sole reason for that. We will find out this season.

    I do agree. Now its 100% Harbaugh’s team. Lets see what you can do! (and if Flacco can play from behind)

  70. sbaltimore says: Apr 2, 2013 9:31 AM

    It’s sad that while just about everyone in Baltimore knows not to take anything Mike Preston “reports” seriously, because he’s not a serious reporter, PTF quotes him without any qualifiers.

  71. mgdsquiggy17 says: Apr 2, 2013 9:33 AM

    These are the type of articles that give Florio and his cronies a tingling feeling in their pants. Oh we get to write an article slinging dirt and speculating? This will be GREAT!!

  72. jamaltimore says: Apr 2, 2013 9:33 AM

    Preston is hated by the fans and many of his stories are somewhat more about his views than reality. Having said that, Ed Reed spent the past 3 years with a bunch of retirement talk, crying over no new contracts, practice time, the business ( that he apparently never understood) and he was getting old. I’m sure Harbaugh wasn’t wishing he’d go away but I’m betting he wasn’t beating on ozzie’s desk for him to “Pay the Man”. Frankly Ed earned the right to go someplace else and most of his offseason comments over the past several years led one to believe that he was thinking that way anyway. If anything I think the Ravens(not just harbaugh) finally called his bluff. My guess is Ed is still smarting that he has to go play for the Texans and will not get to go out the way he really wanted as a Raven.

  73. flaccotoboldin says: Apr 2, 2013 9:41 AM

    As a Ravens Fan, I don’t even see why this is news?

    Pollard being cut is bigger news than Ed Reed not being resigned as a free agent.

    Reed thought he was worth 7 million a year or more going into this. Who wants to bring back a veteran who is overvaluing himself, isn’t necessarily a leader, and who is losing speed at a position that you can’t afford to be slow in?

    The defense was 17th last year. And that was after a decent finish. They essentially were a bottom 1/3 of the league D. They were old, slow, injured, undisciplined, soft, and ineffective.

    So you get younger, and upgrade. And certainly the guys who left or, in pollard case, who were cut were veterans who also didn’t necessarily show the leadership you’d like. And angry, insubordinate veterans can poison the well when it comes to young players and their habits. Look at Percy Harvin’s attitude and how it suddenly went downhill being around Randy Moss just for a couple games.

    Get younger, get faster, get better. Get more disciplined, more team oriented.

  74. southpaw2k says: Apr 2, 2013 9:42 AM

    wryly1 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 7:29 AM
    Harbaugh got his ring with players he inherited; now he has a sub .500 team with a gold-plated QB.

    ————————————————–

    Yeah, it’s not like Harbaugh had been involved in drafting the Ravens’ quarterback, running backs, tight ends, or wide receiv – oh, wait.

  75. morganstan100 says: Apr 2, 2013 9:52 AM

    Maybe due to age and/or injuries, Reed was missing a lot of tackles and probably wandering around the field too much looking for a redeeming interception. If he was also a distraction, that’s another negative. Steeler fans, how has retaining that aging, injured, scandal plagued distraction worked out for you? A blown Superbowl? Humiliated by Tebow? An 8-8 season? Oh, that’s right. You have six rings, four of which were won prior to the invention of the wheel.

  76. fatsolio says: Apr 2, 2013 9:55 AM

    Amuses me that grown men paid multi millions of dollars to play a recreational game can complain about things like practices.

  77. riseabovecancer says: Apr 2, 2013 9:55 AM

    LOL!!!! That is not what he said during his press conference after the Super bowl victory

    He said in his press conference that he hopes Ed Reed returns and that we can get him signed to a new contract.

  78. overratedsteelerhater says: Apr 2, 2013 9:59 AM

    at least the RAVENS move on, unlike the
    steelers who just keep pushing contracts
    down the road.lets see what happens then!!!

  79. therealpittbull says: Apr 2, 2013 10:00 AM

    Funny how reports “surface” after a player is gone. This is Harbaughs way of trying to distance himself from players that won a championship, versus his coaching. The Ravens won before him, and will win after, because of a common denominator. Ozzie Newsome. Harbaugh is not in the same league as his brother, and others will see this season. With the vets he had leading that team, its clear, they took over midway, not the other way around.

  80. restonraven says: Apr 2, 2013 10:01 AM

    Any Ravens fan that reads the Baltimore Sun regularly knows Mike Preston, and further knows he has no credibility what so ever. His role out of all the Sun columnists is to be an instigator. Ed Reed intensely dislikes Mike Preston as do many members of the Ravens organization. It is no surprise that Preston would try and tarnish what was an amicable and classy parting of the ways between the Ravens and one of the greatest players in the history of the franchise. Preston aspires to be an instigator type of columnist like Jason Whitlock at the Sporting News. He fails miserably. Aaron Wilson and Matt Vensel are the class of the Sun’s Ravens beat columnists/reporters – Preston is just comedy fodder.

  81. mrone50 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:01 AM

    Preston doesn’t even have a twitter account. Shows you how much he believes in his work.

  82. therealpittbull says: Apr 2, 2013 10:03 AM

    Fatsolio: Ever played the game at the highest level? Their bodies are beat to hell, and extra pad hitting practices are not necessary. During the season, its chalk board and light workouts, to ensure the body heals properly. Amazing how things changed, once their was a “mutiny”

  83. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Apr 2, 2013 10:04 AM

    “Specifically, Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun writes,”

    I stopped reading after seeing that.

  84. turdfurgerson68 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:05 AM

    I suspect it had as much to do with Reeds’ rapidly declining skills as it did with his attitude.

    Old Ed himself said as much when he discussed his memory loss issues

    He was once a great player. Now he’s a complete moron for continuing to play.

  85. shaunypoo says: Apr 2, 2013 10:15 AM

    Hopefully as a Bengal’s fan I can give an honest assessment of a division rival.

    If this report is true, then my respect for Harbaugh went up. He was able to pull a somewhat fractured team together and still win a Super Bowl.

    Players move on all the time and Ed Reed was a great player and is still pretty good, and he brings more to the table than just his physical play. He is a leader, but Harbaugh is a leader as well and may not like having his toes stepped on.

    If any team can recover from Super Bowl attrition, it is the Ravens, especially with Ozzy at the helm. I look forward to playing them every year because it is almost always a hard fought game against a quality opponent.

    I love the AFCN. It is the toughest division in football. It is hard to win and 3 of the last 8 Super Bowl winners are from the same division but not the same team for all 3 (that is how you cherry pick stats). No other division consistently puts out contenders for the Super Bowl. If the Bengals can somehow take the next step, that would be great for the division as well.

    I detest the Steelers and Ravens, but still respect the organizations. I think the Ravens will take a step backward simply because of the attrition. They have picked up some good piece but we need to see how the chemistry works. They also will have to deal with Flacco’s contract in a few years. But I think both these organizations will have the possibility to contend in the near future.

  86. trich33 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:16 AM

    And who will be taking over at SS and FS??

  87. pjrhc says: Apr 2, 2013 10:18 AM

    Look, I know it’s the slow season, but how about reporting on SPORTS, and leave off the wasteful gossip column stuff. For cryin’ out loud, Ed’s gone – who CARES!? Do you simply wanna stir up trouble like a 6th grade mean girl?

  88. gorwr12 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:18 AM

    Steelers – 6 Super Bowls in 47 eligible =12.7%

    Ravens – 2 Super Bowls in 17 elibgible = 11.8%

    Steelers fans stop acting like you organization is sooo much better. One more super bowl by the Ravens in any of the next 5 years and they surpass your Super Bowl percentage.

  89. phinfan says: Apr 2, 2013 10:31 AM

    Well Reed… his ‘bad practices on players’ may have contributed to the SuperBowl Ring. Mutiny or just Stupid Idiots?

  90. mgdsquiggy17 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:38 AM

    “This is a garbage story and I’m surprised that Mike Florio would run such garbage. ”

    clearly you must be new to PFT. This type of hot garbage has been run for the last couple years now.

  91. salventuri says: Apr 2, 2013 10:47 AM

    The Ravens are a joke. If they’re lucky they’ll go 8-8 this season. I wonder how Reed feels about that full page newspaper ad right now he paid for thanking Baltimore? LMAO!

    And now that he has all that money, Joe Flukko will probably look more and more like Mark Sanchez every day…and that’s on good a day! Maybe the Eagles will be lucky enough to get him when they weasel out of his contract in a few years. LOL!

  92. mdp44 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:50 AM

    Keep drinking that purple cool aid, with that ridiculous contract you gave your qb you won’t have any money for other players. Flacco isn’t Tom, Peyton, or Drew

  93. morganstan100 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:09 AM

    Hey gorwr12! You can do better than that…

    Last five years: Steelers have had 5 post season wins. Ravens have had 9.

    Since Green Bay pounded the Steelers into the dirt in SB XLV, Steelers have had 0 post season wins. Ravens have had 5.

    Ravens have consistently made the playoffs in the last five years. Steelers spent two of those years on the couch, and got Tebowed one of the three years they managed to put together a winning season (despite being swept by the Ravens).

    No wonder Steelers fans are all over all the Ravens’ boards making snarky comments. They have nothing to root for but the misery of others. Good luck, has-beens.

  94. ravenssbc25 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:15 AM

    Really, Mike Preston I leave in Baltimore been here all my life all Mike wants to do is cause nothing, but confusion in our organization and it’s been like this since he been doing stories for our Ravens or O’s, so I know this some bull crap

  95. taintedsaints2009 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:19 AM

    Vets don’t like to practice hard. It might even be better to keep them out of hard contact drills as they get past their tenth year. The Vikings rested Winfield all last year before games and it paid off big time. He had one of his best seasons ever.

  96. footballfather says: Apr 2, 2013 11:28 AM

    The Ravens won the friggin’ Super Bowl. I think it’s safe to say that all the complaining about Harbaugh needs to stop now.

    Unless you’re complaining about Jim. In that case, complain away. He’s a bag.

  97. scoobies05 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:36 AM

    education time…once again. joe’s cap numbers…2013 6.8 mil. 2014 14.8 mil. 2015. 14. 8 mil. please tell me how that keeps the ravens from signing anyone. they sure seem to have signed lots of guys in the last 3 weeks..all to very cap friendly deals. thats what happens when your franchise is well run. something redskin fans like logicalvoice know nothing about. and steeler fans…enjoy your history. because the truth is that right now ravens are better than steelers. go ravens

  98. Tom in Desoto, TX says: Apr 2, 2013 11:38 AM

    I’ve not like either Harbaugh for some time and I didn’t watch any part of the Super Bowl as I didn’t care who won. (This is the first one I haven’t watched, wasn’t even curious) Both Harbaugh’s appear to have high A.H. ratings. I would think both would enjoy a straight jacket tightened as much as possible.

  99. duni423 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:40 AM

    Mike Preston is the worst thing that’s happened to Baltimore sports since Robert Irsay. He’s always trying to stir something up , usually with NO facts.

  100. gorwr12 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:47 AM

    Well done morganstan100.

    And Mike Preston is an idiot!

  101. bunkmcnulty says: Apr 2, 2013 11:52 AM

    Print media is dying as everyone knows. Preston likes being a lightning rod of controversy. Sometimes his columns have merit, other times, not so much.

    Like most things that no one will ever know the truth to, I am guessing the truth on this is somewhere in between the Harbaugh comments after Ed left and this Preston article. I love Ed, and his time has been great. But the last 3 years especially, he gambles in coverage an awful lot and leaves his CB exposed when they weren’t expecting that. And tackling? Ed doesn’t even know what tackling is anymore. And I don’t blame him. He is protecting the nerve impingement in his neck. But he is nowhere near the player he used to be. And nowhere near a $5 mil per year guy.

    I am sure when you mix his present ability levels, with his “attitude” (which he has had for years folks, this is nothing new), and $5 million per, Harbaugh probably did not want him back. This is not a story. Preston is trying to sell advertising by writing this type of column.

    Last, I love every last comment on how bad the Ravens are, how our organization is terrible, etc., etc., etc. These comments show two things: one, it shows the Ravens are a winner and everyone tries to tear you down; and two, it shows the lack of maturity of people who can’t even recognize excellence in your most hated adversaries. I hate the Steelers and Patriots, but it’s because they run their organizations well and win and compete under all sets of circumstances. I don’t make immature or adolescent comments just because they win. I’ll take all the hatred in these posts. Rip on Harbaugh. Rip on Flacco. Rip on Newsome. You don’t see people ripping on the Lions or the Jags (sorry fans of those teams I could substitute other bad teams). These teams don’t threaten these people that have nothing else positive in their life but their football teams. When you win, people try to tear you down. It helps these people with their own feelings of inferiority.

    You know, you can get help for that!

  102. irishfootball55 says: Apr 2, 2013 12:07 PM

    Not surprised that Reed signed elsewhere. Most had him headed to New England where he would have had a tremendous impact on the Pats D working in tandem with BB. I don’t think he will have the same type of impact in Houston. Even if Harbaugh wanted Reed gone I am sure it would have never been leaked

  103. majormeatcurtains says: Apr 2, 2013 12:07 PM

    Harbaugh is heading, albeit slower, the way of Norv Turner. Inherit a team, ride it to success (more success than Norv), and the tear it apart with a deft combination of stupidity and ego. Norv did it faster because he had the expert help of AJ Smith.

  104. nomoreseasontix says: Apr 2, 2013 12:19 PM

    Harbaugh is running a football team that is a business.
    If you’re not in, you’re out.

    Not a thing wrong with that. No matter who the player is…

    There really isn’t enough of that in the league.

  105. ebrownwareagle says: Apr 2, 2013 12:37 PM

    Ed Reed is the Greatest Safety to Play the Game!!

  106. swirv78 says: Apr 2, 2013 12:42 PM

    Tomorrows headline.. Did John really steal Jim’s easy bake oven?? These two coaches might be the two biggest divas in the NFL now??

  107. kinggw says: Apr 2, 2013 12:44 PM

    majormeatcurtains, I was with you until the Norv Turner comment. Norv cant help the fact that Philip Rivers is one of the most overrated quarterbacks in recent history. Rivers screwed the pooch, but Norv always gets the blame.

    I do think that Harbaugh is about to find out that he was largely a figurehead and not as integral to the Ravens success as some believe.

  108. jprcox says: Apr 2, 2013 12:44 PM

    Highly doubtful this sort of relationship existed and we are hearing about it now – this way. Also, if there was a “near mutiny”, and a super bowl came out of it, perhaps Hardbaugh is a genius.

  109. swirv78 says: Apr 2, 2013 12:47 PM

    Dear NFL.. Can we please have a new Thanksgiving game besides the Ravens and 49ers??? I’m the only one who is sick of seeing the Harbaughs on Turkey Day? And hearing stories About how Jim used to peek at John when he was in the shower?

  110. theravens1 says: Apr 2, 2013 12:48 PM

    We all love Ed REEEEED!
    He has friends and credibility with us!
    Mike Preston is a terrible writer, and if he was gone, I would subscribe to the Baltimore Sun on line. I’m a Raven’s Season ticket / PSL owner and would love to read the Sun – if not for him.

  111. hqdeezy says: Apr 2, 2013 12:51 PM

    I respect Harbaugh. He has a zero tolerance policy and he’s making an example of of these complainers. I ain’t mad at him. Time to bring in the youth movement and let the overpaid & aging veterans get their money else where.

  112. scoobies05 says: Apr 2, 2013 12:53 PM

    my favorite post is from ben7 who said that the steelers have an infinite number of rings. guess certain steeler fans can only count to 6

  113. ravenlunatic2012 says: Apr 2, 2013 12:54 PM

    Mike Preston = Vito Stellino. ’nuff said.

  114. opneon says: Apr 2, 2013 1:07 PM

    This is not a big deal. The Ravens are trying to stay competitive (in the long run) so need to change. No team has repeated as SB Champs in a decade – so why kid yourself. Ozzie & Harbs did a great job taking this team to or near the top 5 years in a row. They may not be there again for awhile, but they will make it interesting…which is more than half the other teams can say.

    Ravens fans realize that it is time. We would have loved to keep Bolden (especially) and Reed, but Ozzie had to handle salary cap issues. Reed & Pollard have broken shoulders and ribs making tackling very difficult. The fact that Bernie is mouthy and Ed is a bit strange did not help their cause. The past 5 years Ed played with retirement just to stay in the news – then he signs a 3 year deal. Good luck Texans. I think you’re already seeing what you’re getting. I love him, but he IS different.

    Look what the Raves have done already since “losing” some players to teams that over-spent for them.

    In Ozzie we trust!

  115. Marc2k6 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:08 PM

    We have 6 rings! That is so cute! Since 1996 the Ravens have won 2 rings and the stealers have also won 2! We do not count any rings before 1996 suckas! Bow down and kiss the rings of the Ravens!

  116. ravensbob says: Apr 2, 2013 1:10 PM

    Steelers fans crack me up. They are the Baltimore orioles of the nfl. Just do enough to make the playoffs, most years don’t. Ownership refuses to play their stars and they leave. It has caught up to the velvet curtain. They will be doormats for the afc north for the next few years. Hopefully, they will fire Tomlin, the best coach they have ever had, so that he can coach for a real organization, like the Ravens! He could probably be a coordinator in Baltimore.

  117. randomguy539 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:19 PM

    World champs. Kiss the ring. Steelers will finish last in the afc north. Ravens repeat.

  118. thecrabcakestate says: Apr 2, 2013 1:27 PM

    Randomguy539. Now I hate the steelers as much as anybody. But you have to at least respect the franchise. As much as I would love to see them finish last I would be very surprised should this transpire. The ravens are a great organization. Everyone knows that. Gloating about it is unnecessary.

  119. nasan27 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:28 PM

    mike62679 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 7:33 AM

    The Pittsburgh Steelers have been around 80 years this year in one name or another and 68 years as the current Steelers. When the Ravens have been around 80 years we’ll have more than 6 rings if we keep average 2 every 17 years.

    ravens4fr says:
    Apr 2, 2013 8:42 AM

    Six rings in 80 years; Two rings in 16 years….I’d ask you to reevaluate your statement. I will take our rate of success against Stiller town any day of the week.

    gorwr12 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 10:18 AM

    Steelers – 6 Super Bowls in 47 eligible =12.7%

    Ravens – 2 Super Bowls in 17 elibgible = 11.8%

    _______________________________

    The Ravens have been around for far more than 17 years. They are the Cleveland Browns. The name stayed in Cleveland for historical and record-keeping purposes, but that’s completely arbitrary. The team left town and moved to Cleveland with the same owner, the same staff, the same coaches, and the same players. If you were to change your name and move to the hills of Thailand, would you just automatically become a completely different human being? No, you’d still be the same person and all of the events of your life would have still happened to you and not a single other person in the world. Like it or not, the Baltimore Ravens are the Cleveland Browns just like the Tennessee Titans are the Houston Oilers, end of story.

  120. FoozieGrooler says: Apr 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    outsiderj says:
    Apr 2, 2013 8:56 AM
    Baltimore has 5 rings

    2 World Championships with the Colts
    1 Super Bowl Championship with the Colts
    2 Super Bowl Championships with the Ravens

    ======

    LMAO
    That’s almost as funny as GB fans who want to included “Championships” that were played before organized football, and the invention of electricity…

  121. toosoon2013 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:32 PM

    bigbenownsthenfl wrote: “The best franchise in the NFL has 6 rings. And it ain’t the Ratbirds! You try to emulate us, but you only look like the cheap replica of!”

    It’s very gracious of you to compliment the 49ers like that

  122. FoozieGrooler says: Apr 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    No, I take that back.
    This is funnier…

  123. nasan27 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:33 PM

    Marc2k6 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 1:08 PM

    Marc2k6 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 1:08 PM
    We have 6 rings! That is so cute! Since 1996 the Ravens have won 2 rings and the stealers have also won 2! We do not count any rings before 1996 suckas! Bow down and kiss the rings of the Ravens!

    ________________________________

    They happened whether you count them or not. Newsflash, the Ravens were around before 1996 as the Cleveland Browns. The name staying in Cleveland for historical and record keeping purposes is arbitrary and irrelevant. When they moved to Baltimore, they had the same owner, staff, coaches, and players. The Baltimore Ravens are the Cleveland Browns of 1995.

  124. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Apr 2, 2013 1:39 PM

    Should probably learn the difference between a report and an opinion.

  125. bgm9876 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:42 PM

    well now john is happy. lets see how ed feels about that!!

  126. semispook says: Apr 2, 2013 1:43 PM

    Saying this as a Steeler fan:

    I could care less about rings or pride at this point. From a purely business standpoint, Flacco signing for as much as he did is going to hurt the Ravens. Trading Boldin to the 49ers is going to hurt the Ravens. Even letting Ed Reed go, even if this BS report is true, is going to hurt the Ravens.

    If the reports of late season turmoil are true, I think Reed’s departure was the LAST thing the Ravens should have allowed, warts and all. Ray-Ray retired, but there needed to be continuity. Losing Reed basically trashes that continuity. I really don’t see any real leaders in that locker room for the immediate future. Suggs filling in that gap? Really? I don’t see it.

    Does it mean the Steelers will be tops in the AFCN? I don’t have a clue. There are problems in the organization, rightly pointed out, I should say, that may put them at a disadvantage. The recent re-acquiring of William Gay comes to mind. That’s NOT a forward thinking move, especially after he was cut last season. He didn’t have the numbers, and he’s not going to. I was initially miffed by seeing Harrison cut, as well, but in the long term, that move at least made sense, seeing as how he had some significant time off due to injury in 2012.

  127. therealpittbull says: Apr 2, 2013 1:46 PM

    Kiss six of them, with more to come. Here we go Steelers, here we go!!!

  128. bgm9876 says: Apr 2, 2013 1:50 PM

    i would want suggs gone if i were john. saying this as a bills fan THE BILLS SHOULD HAVE TOOK HIM.

  129. rajbais says: Apr 2, 2013 1:51 PM

    Why the Hall of Fame voting process should not involve writers: they actually do ask about why teams removed players. Apparently all removals mean that the teams felt that players were not good enough!

    Well, this alleged case shows you why it’s not always about ability!!! Ego and need for control takes charge too. A typical coach likely has both of these qualities!!!

    I think Reed is a 1st ballot HOFer no matter what, but hopefully this report doesn’t cause writers to use the aforementioned argument to actually think why this all time great should be out.

  130. CKL says: Apr 2, 2013 1:51 PM

    After seeing humbleminded compare this guy to Prisco and another Ravens fan compare him to Stellino, that’s enough for me to conclude Preston has 0 credibility.

    Lets face it, my team’s HC has a man crush on Reed so huge he would probably try to have his baby if it were possible and he didn’t even so much as talk to Reed when he became a FA. That says it all. Performance for the $ was enough reason for Baltimore to let him walk.

    After reading the almost unanimous poor esteem in which Ravens fans hold Preston, I think a good idea for a story would be for all of us fans to post which writers about our teams do and do not have credibility in our eyes and why. We all have great ones and terrible hacks whose sole purpose is to stir up stuff or who have huge agendas. Would be nice to have a primer on who to take seriously and who not to.

  131. salventuri says: Apr 2, 2013 2:00 PM

    Soon he’ll be hanging out with Lawrence Taylor.

  132. toosoon2013 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:14 PM

    nasan27 wrote “They happened whether you count them or not. Newsflash, the Ravens were around before 1996 as the Cleveland Browns. The name staying in Cleveland for historical and record keeping purposes is arbitrary and irrelevant. When they moved to Baltimore, they had the same owner, staff, coaches, and players. The Baltimore Ravens are the Cleveland Browns of 1995.”

    I disagree with this way of looking at it, but OK I will play along. If Browns/Ravens are considered one franchise then you must include the Browns championships in 1950, 1954, 1955 and 1964. Add these to the Ravens championships in 2000 & 2012 and you have a total of 6 titles…same as the Steelers LOL

  133. scoobies05 says: Apr 2, 2013 2:17 PM

    sorry steeler fans. you cant decide when the history of the ravens begins and then discredit packer championships as not being real nfl titles. just shows your insecurities. as far as 95 browns vs 96 ravens…the nfl itself suspended clevelands history when modell moved them to baltimore and restarted it when they reformed in 98. ravens have no ties to browns history. those are facts. go ravens

  134. southpaw2k says: Apr 2, 2013 2:27 PM

    nasan27 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 1:28 PM
    mike62679 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 7:33 AM

    The Pittsburgh Steelers have been around 80 years this year in one name or another and 68 years as the current Steelers. When the Ravens have been around 80 years we’ll have more than 6 rings if we keep average 2 every 17 years.

    ravens4fr says:
    Apr 2, 2013 8:42 AM

    Six rings in 80 years; Two rings in 16 years….I’d ask you to reevaluate your statement. I will take our rate of success against Stiller town any day of the week.

    gorwr12 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 10:18 AM

    Steelers – 6 Super Bowls in 47 eligible =12.7%

    Ravens – 2 Super Bowls in 17 elibgible = 11.8%

    _______________________________

    The Ravens have been around for far more than 17 years. They are the Cleveland Browns. The name stayed in Cleveland for historical and record-keeping purposes, but that’s completely arbitrary. The team left town and moved to Cleveland with the same owner, the same staff, the same coaches, and the same players. If you were to change your name and move to the hills of Thailand, would you just automatically become a completely different human being? No, you’d still be the same person and all of the events of your life would have still happened to you and not a single other person in the world. Like it or not, the Baltimore Ravens are the Cleveland Browns just like the Tennessee Titans are the Houston Oilers, end of story.

    ————————————————-

    Wrong. The Ravens are NOT the Cleveland Browns 2.0. The Browns as a franchise kept all their previous records and history to themselves when Art Modell moved the team from Cleveland to Baltimore. When the Browns were resurrected in 1999, they were given the authority to retain their franchise’s historical records and identity, unlike the Colts when they left Baltimore. The Colts as a franchise (and the Titans too when they were in Houston, as you said) retained all the previous records, but the Ravens never kept any records that had previously belonged to the Browns.

    And no, the Ravens DIDN’T keep any of the Browns’ coaching staff either. Bill Belichick had been the Browns head coach, but when the move had gone through, Ted Marchibroda was hired as the Ravens’ first head coach. The entire coaching staff was overhauled as well, though some of the key players were retained during the relocation.

    So you’re not completely 180-degrees off course, but you’re somewhere around 170 degrees.

  135. godzilla111111 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:01 PM

    Gutless libtard censors

  136. jdhein22 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:04 PM

    So Florio will question the motives of actual reporters who interview and quote scouts from throughout the league, but then breathlessly adopt a report from a columnist with a known and extensive history of fabricated stories, who merely re-stated Florio’s previous hypothetical. Huh.

  137. staff2cj says: Apr 2, 2013 3:19 PM

    What m(u)rder! Just saying

  138. scoobies05 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:35 PM

    well posted southpaw2k. when faced with facts most steeler fans will reort back to…well we have 6 rings. go ravens!

  139. dickson29 says: Apr 2, 2013 3:57 PM

    “LOL, what a joke of a franchise.

    We have endless amounts of rings, you do not”.

    you guys do realize that this comment is from your own member “Ravenator” posing as a steeler fan who has 2 names on this forum?

  140. hogforlife says: Apr 2, 2013 5:00 PM

    I finaly realized why ravens fans are so mad even though you just won the superbowl.All that you are is a bunch of ex skins fans without a true love for your team because its not a historic franchise it has no family roots and the only reason you even like them is because you jumped the big fat bandwagon in 2000.Stop coming to our sites and posting you baltimore white trash getto crap on our website and go fake root for your team.Stop beimg jealos because we are better now and you wishing you could come back pisa off! HTTR HATERS!

  141. laserw says: Apr 2, 2013 5:13 PM

    Practices must have been spot on with the team winning the super bowl despite having a murderer in their ranks.

  142. scoobies05 says: Apr 2, 2013 5:40 PM

    hogforlife…you do realize you posted a stay off skins message on a ravens themed thread. thats first…secondly no one who is a ravens fans gives a crap about the skins. and who on the ravens is or was a murderer. you would think someone like that would have evidence against them, been tried, and would be in prison. sorry…no one on the ravens fits that description. after 13 years have an original thought

  143. ppdoc13 says: Apr 2, 2013 6:23 PM

    This is a waste of tint and “logicalvoiceofreaaon” is a twink

  144. morganstan100 says: Apr 2, 2013 7:00 PM

    OIC, the murderer talk is back. Well, go grab a grown up and have them read this to you because it contains some big words. There was no murder. It was a homicide judged in a court of law to be an act of self defense. So, unlike many of the rape charges that never make it to trial because the alleged rapist’s lawyers just use the opportunity to further torment the victim, the Ray Lewis incident has been fully adjudicated. Case forever closed.

  145. texansreppin713 says: Apr 2, 2013 10:29 PM

    The steelers suck. The Ravens suck and Ed reed and the Texans gone win the superbowl. Your sorry a** steelers will suck for the nexy 5 years and the Texans Colts Redskins & Seahawks will be the top teams in this league the next five years

  146. reedhof20 says: Apr 2, 2013 11:49 PM

    The Ravens are not imploding, the people leaving are.

  147. goawayeverybody says: Apr 3, 2013 12:58 PM

    Why are Steelers fans so delusional in general? Over the past ten or twelve years, the Ravens have won as many Super Bowls as the Steelers. And the Ravens just came into existence about 13 years ago.

    In any case, the arrival of Elvis Dumervil makes up for ALL the free agents that the Ravens lost this off-season. Plus, they are getting back the best corner in the league right now, Lardarius Webb!

  148. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Apr 3, 2013 1:45 PM

    hogforlife says:
    Apr 2, 2013 5:00 PM
    I finaly realized why ravens fans are so mad even though you just won the superbowl.All that you are is a bunch of ex skins fans without a true love for your team because its not a historic franchise it has no family roots and the only reason you even like them is because you jumped the big fat bandwagon in 2000.Stop coming to our sites and posting you baltimore white trash getto crap on our website and go fake root for your team.Stop beimg jealos because we are better now and you wishing you could come back pisa off! HTTR HATERS!
    ———-
    The only football team that I was a fan of before the Ravens arrived was the Baltimore CFL Stallions.

  149. morganstan100 says: Apr 3, 2013 2:37 PM

    Ravens fans don’t give a hoot about the Redskins. In fact, every time the Ravens get beat by the Redskins, they win the Superbowl. Maybe it’s the humiliation of being beaten by such a sad sack team causes the Ravens to plow through all future opponents?

  150. outsiderj says: Apr 3, 2013 3:56 PM

    FoozieGrooler –

    The only people who feel that way are Pittsburgh fans, and that’s because they have no World Championships prior to the Super Bowl.

    If they DID, we’d never hear the end of it.

  151. lionzfan69 says: Apr 3, 2013 5:34 PM

    Go Lions!!!!!

  152. mickinmd says: Apr 5, 2013 3:10 AM

    Back as far as 2011, people in the stands at M&T Bank Stadium argued whether the defense was better or worse with Ed Reed on the field. He was a fantastic player in his prime and a very hard worker, but he was always a loose cannon who played his hunches and often left cornerbacks twisting in the wind by not being where he was supposed to be. Even when Rex Ryan was D.C. he threatened Reed with a benching if he didn’t stop playing out of position.
    The last couple of years, Ed was a step slower and had even more trouble recovering ground when he misdiagnosed a play.

  153. axespray says: Apr 5, 2013 8:12 AM

    John probably remembers what happened to Brian Billick…. One rough season – defensive players threw a tantrum and started pointing the finger at the coach – organization fired the coach.

    Ravens sort of struggled late in the regular season – Reed and company were probably ready to throw another coach under the bus.

  154. ejmat2 says: Apr 5, 2013 10:15 AM

    benroethlisberger7 says:
    Apr 2, 2013 6:51 AM
    LOL, what a joke of a franchise.

    We have endless amounts of rings, you do not.

    This is why.
    ————————————–
    Is that really why? Or maybe, just maybe, is it the fact they’ve been around a much shorter time than the Steelers. 2 rings in 16 years isn’t bad.

  155. therealpittbull says: Apr 5, 2013 11:29 AM

    When will the Raven fans come to their senses? Not the true fans that know their origin. But, the one’s they fail to see where their “beloved” relocating team derived from.

    That miserable city didn’t want to help the colts, then they went and stole another team. The records, colors, and all other background may have stayed in Cleveland, but the foundation was built in Ohio no matter how you twist. Other franchises such as Carolina, Jacksonville, Houston, and YES, Cleveland, had to start from ground zero. Unlike the Ravens who took off one label and packaging, and replaced it with another.

    You are not Pittsburgh, can never be Pittsburgh, and will never run in the same class as the Steel City Champions. Six Championships and still counting. When you were the Browns, we kicked your teeth in then, and will continue doing so. Can we win it every year. No. I’m realistic. But, please stop being delusional, and just continue on your path, rather than making irrational statements.

    Us Steeler fans appreciate your team. We love the work ethic, that pride, and the rivalry. It’s what made going to Three Rivers, Heinz Field, the old Browns stadium, and that Baltimore dump fun…lol. Good ol’ fashion sibling rivalry. We like beating up on the younger brother, who wants to be just like us.

  156. TheWizard says: Apr 6, 2013 4:41 AM

    Personalities sometimes clash in the workplace.

    Sounds like Harbaugh is applying the “better a year too early instead of a year too late” philosophy, which has proven to be sound doctrine.

    This guy seems like an excellent coach, and I’ll be back to hating him once the season starts.

  157. pizzon says: Apr 9, 2013 11:12 AM

    Who really cares its only the Ravens, is there not anything else newsworthy to report.

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