Victor Cruz looking for north of $10 million per year

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The Giants have offered restricted free agent wide receiver Victor Cruz a long-term deal worth $7 million a year, which considering the current climate, seemed to at least be in the neighborhood.

But it’s apparently not close to what Cruz and his new representatives are looking for.

According to Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News, several league sources said Cruz was asking for closer to $10 million to $11 million per year.

That’s the gulf between Dolphins-are-desperate-and-have-a-stadium-referendum-coming money, and the established market for slot receivers.

Of course, Cruz should make more than Wes Welker based on age alone (he’s 26 to Welker’s 31).

But wanting eight figures per year indicates an ambition beyond the realities of the current market, the kind of thing that leads a player to align himself with stars in hopes of even greater riches.

Good for him if he gets it, but he could end up with a long wait and a roll-the-dice year on the restricted free agent tender of $2.879 million, because those kind of deals are few and far between this offseason.

69 responses to “Victor Cruz looking for north of $10 million per year

  1. That’s so funny because I woke up this morning looking for north of $10 million a year, too.

  2. Wife is a giants fan and I’ve become one as well. I think cruz is about to destroy a promising career with his new management team.

  3. bucrightoff says:
    Apr 4, 2013 1:19 PM
    Eli Manning is gonna make (insert name of next slot guy they have) look just as good as Cruz. Just ask Steve Smith.

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    Nailed it. Sign Hakeem, let Cruz walk. /thread.

  4. If he does get it, he’d better pray he doesn’t get injured or have a so-so year. The G-men aren’t going to give him another big pay day, if he isn’t “outstanding” this season.

  5. Slot WRs get you first downs. Outside WRs get you huge plays and win games. The Patriots learned that lesson right around the time they were getting shut out in the 2nd half of the AFC title game.

  6. and in comes jayz screwin with things.. cruz isnt worth 10 mil a year.. percy harvin plays rb kr and wr, hes worth it.. cruz is a slot wr who got shook over the middle last year (prob for contract reasons) and fell off. 8 is about right for a victor cruz

  7. Victor, seriously, the offer on the table is more than fair. Greed will get you a contract to mediocrity on a bad team and eventually you’ll find yourself salsa dancing all the way to Who?land. Your new agents are looking out for their best interests, not yours. Wake up!

  8. Someone will pay him that next year. I’m not sure I risk an extra $10M or so on my health if $7M is already on the table. Especially since he can easily make up that lost $4M on endorsements playing in NY.

  9. I like this guy great person and football player ….but he’s lost his friggin mind if he thinks that in this day and age it’s a wise thing to ask for such a price considering where you play….slot guys are not worth it in these flat cap days…. between seven and eight million is realistic and is above premium at the position…. your a slot guy a SLOT guy jeesh…

  10. This is not news. I said this weeks ago, the Giants made more than fair offers twice in the past year, and he’s stuck to his demands for Larry and Calvin money. Not going to happen in East Rutherford, Vic. It’s been a fun ride. Happy trails.

  11. newmarketmaulers says:
    Apr 4, 2013 1:20 PM
    He’s a slot guy. Slot guys dont get the $$ the guys on the outside do. Wes learned that this year.

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    Greg Jennings, also a slot receiver, got about $9.5 from the Vikings and will turn 30 early in the season. Not unreasonable at all for Cruz to think he’s worth more than that during his actual prime (while Jennings’ best days are behind him).

  12. wow… so much for being a humble, “im just happy to be playing in the NFL”, role model! salsa was always lame anyways (yea i said it). if he wants THAT much on top of his endorsements and what not then he’s gonna get let go next year. edelman or whatever his name is will take your spot and make the foxtrot famous while you play for the jags next year

  13. Players come into league wanting

    1. A super bowl ring
    2. Big contract
    3. Getting into the hall of fame.

    He’s already got the ring, why not fight for every penny?

  14. Slot WRs get you first downs. Outside WRs get you huge plays and win games. The Patriots learned that lesson right around the time they were getting shut out in the 2nd half of the AFC title game.
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    Brandon Lloyd had one of his best games of the season in that game, and they still lost. They lost because they refused to run the ball, like they always do in big games. The Patriots had the #1 offense in the league last year.

    Furthermore, all that playing in the slot means is that the player lines up in the middle of the field. It has nothing to do with getting short passes for first downs, that’s called a possession receiver.

    Cruz is one of the better big play threats in the league. He can stretch the field from the slot. He averaged 18 yards a catch his first year. Cruz just needs to stay healthy.

  15. Football is suppose to be about the team…I like Victor Cruz, but he is not worth north of 10M-11M dollars; he is a slot WR and the only way he gets this kind of money if I were a GM…incentives, guarantee our team 10+ catches 160yds+ and 3 tds every single game is the only way he can get all that money. other than that, he needs to take the giants offer, which is a very good offer and sit down somewhere sign the contract and get ready for the season

  16. He’s not going to get 10 mil per. Giants and Cruz are ironing out details while the media speculates.

  17. Nicks is the better receiver.

    Unfortunately you dont offer him more than 7mill/year.

    Greedy pigs get slaughtered.

  18. It was nice knowing you Vic, nobody is more important than the team’s success.

    Oh and one more thing, you are no where worth 11 million dollars a year, get real.

    Have fun playing this year under that 2.75 million tender…

    This coming from a huge Giants fan…

  19. Fellas, Fellas! Forget your football and NFL business knowledge… this is basic economics. These Receivers (or any key FA) will get paid what the market will bear. As a Dolphins fan, it makes uneasy to pay Wallace $12M, but he was the number #1 FA and every team wanting him would have no choice. If Cruz hits open market with little to no competition, he will do better than Wallace next year: Slot or not. All it takes is a Buyer…. and depending on a Team’s Cap health, trust me one will be there to overpay.

  20. First off he is not going to be available next year because the Giants will just franchise him for a year then dump him. Secondly just do the math Victor. 7 million salary + 4million in endorsements in the largest media market in the world equals the 11 million you want.

  21. If he thinks he is worth that money the Giants are better off moving on without him, at the end of the day he was an undrafted free agent that made great stides with his opportunity.

    The Giants can trade his assets for picks this year and next year and use their excellent scouting staff to find another Victor Cruz type player. Next year they have to deal with Nicks contract being up and no team can afford to have two high priced receivers

  22. I very much like Victor Cruz, please allow me to start with that thought.

    BUT ask Steve Smith, Kevin Boss, Brandon Jacobs, Plaxico Burress, Mario Manningham & soon Ahmad Bradshaw, Ramses Barden, Dominic Hixon how much success thry have all had or plan on having without Eli?

    What these guys do not seem to realize is that it’s ELI that makes them what they are. Eli drives the train; they are all parts of Eli’s machine. Eli Manning is the fuel in the machine. The one constant from both Super Bowl runs was Eli. For the people that will scream about the defense, it was Eli that engineered both Super Bowl winning drives! One big catch with Tyree & one big catch with Manningham. Both passes came from the leader of the Giant offense.

    Cruz wants the big money?? He’s going to get that in place of winning. Is the money more important than winning?

    If he keep his ridiculous demands up, Cruz is gonna find out the difference between playing with Eli & playing with most of the other incompetent QB’s in the league. I wish him luck but he’s going to be disappointed.

  23. Take the 7 million. In New York you are already famous. You will make up the difference in endorsements. Look what happened to Steve smith. Osi took less $ at the falcons thinking he would cash in in free agency. Giants original offer to him was better.
    Think about it. Do you want to catch balls from Ponder or another struggling QB on a non Super Bowl competing team year in and year out?

  24. si1m says: Apr 4, 2013 1:28 PM

    Slot WRs get you first downs. Outside WRs get you huge plays and win games. The Patriots learned that lesson right around the time they were getting shut out in the 2nd half of the AFC title game.
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    you obviously are not a Giants fan or don’t watch the games. not only does cruz get 1st downs but he is capable of a big play every time he touches the ball. remember the 99 yarder against the Jets? giants dont make playoffs with out that sprk. cruz is far more valuable and reliable than hakeem nicks. let me pose this question to you,,could you put cruz on the outside and still expect him to excel? absolutely. could you put nicks in the slot and expect him to excel? not so much. your argument although normally true does not pertain to victor cruz as he is a special talent. he is better than mike wallace hands down and look what that clown got. they need to find a happy medium between slot money and outside money or just increase the guaranteed money, the guy has earned it..

  25. My kids were looking for the easter bunny last weekend, but they never found it either.

  26. 1500 yards per year never sounded so awful. Simple: do not pay him — good chance someone else will.

    Don’t see what everyone is arguing about.

  27. Look at all the Giants fans backtracking LOL how hilarious! You all were dead set on Cruz being with the team again and praising how great he is now you say “cut him and move on… we got Nicks” LOL… So what is it? Nicks wont look as good without Cruz… goodluck telling yourself “it will all be okay”. Just keep repeating it over and over again.

  28. Look at all the Giants fans backtracking LOL how hilarious! You all were dead set on Cruz being with the team again and praising how great he is now you say “cut him and move on… we got Nicks” LOL… So what is it? Nicks wont look as good without Cruz… goodluck telling yourself “it will all be okay”. Just keep repeating it over and over again.

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    angry

  29. You can thank the Vikings for this Giants fans. The Vikings overpaid for Jennings and Cruz noticed.

    Of course Cruz wants more money than Jennings (9.5 Mill/year) – he’s 4 years younger and has more upside than Jennings.

    they are both good WR, don’t get me wrong, but
    I don’t think either player is worth tying up that much in cap money. The Giants would be smart to let him walk just like Green Bay let Jennings walk.

  30. Cruz needs to remember that he is in NY near Madison Ave and endorsement deals don’t grow on trees. He won’t get that visibility in say… Jacksonville. What’s that really worth at the end of the day?

  31. andyreidisthegoat says:
    Apr 4, 2013 2:56 PM
    Look at all the Giants fans backtracking LOL how hilarious! You all were dead set on Cruz being with the team again and praising how great he is now you say “cut him and move on… we got Nicks” LOL… So what is it? Nicks wont look as good without Cruz… goodluck telling yourself “it will all be okay”. Just keep repeating it over and over again.

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    angry

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    You know, maybe they should get rid of the comments section, because when idiots like you post it brings the entire thread down.

    News flash genius, Cruz will be playing for the Giants this season. Either he plays under the 2.75 million dollar tender or he signs a long term contract.

    Either way it guarantees he remains in blue.

    Get a clue!!!

  32. The same way Jay-Z won’t let Cano play for the Mariners next year, he won’t let Cruz slip to obscurity in Minnesota. Come August when Cruz is playing for the tender and he feels his first aches and pains from being off all winter, he’ll be ready to sign for that $7M.

  33. sschmiggles says:
    Apr 4, 2013 1:59 PM
    you obviously are not a Giants fan or don’t watch the games. not only does cruz get 1st downs but he is capable of a big play every time he touches the ball. remember the 99 yarder against the Jets? giants dont make playoffs with out that sprk. cruz is far more valuable and reliable than hakeem nicks. let me pose this question to you,,could you put cruz on the outside and still expect him to excel? absolutely. could you put nicks in the slot and expect him to excel? not so much. your argument although normally true does not pertain to victor cruz as he is a special talent. he is better than mike wallace hands down and look what that clown got. they need to find a happy medium between slot money and outside money or just increase the guaranteed money, the guy has earned it..
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    Thats a joke right? you didn’t just use a play against the JETS as ammo did you?

    Also how’d the Giants do in 2012 when Nicks was hurt? Oh yeah they missed the playoffs. Health nicks: super bowl. No Nicks: no playoffs.

    Cruz has earned top slot WR money (7-8mil). Paying him 10-11 is insanity, the Giants will never do that. They’re not a dumb team like about 20-24 others are.

    Also the guy who said Brandon Lloyd had a good game in the AFC title game i’l just say LOL ask any pats fan about Lloyd. He did nothing but fall down for 8 yard gains. Hardly a dominant outside WR.

  34. I hate siding with Giants management, but they should tell Cruz, “Negotiations end in 30 seconds. Take the money we’ve offered, or take what we’re obligated to pay you for this year, then walk. See how much you get in contract money elsewhere, and see how you do in endorsements when you leave New York. 29…28…27…”

  35. bobonmycob says:
    Apr 4, 2013 2:49 PM
    Look at all the Giants fans backtracking LOL how hilarious! You all were dead set on Cruz being with the team again and praising how great he is now you say “cut him and move on… we got Nicks” LOL… So what is it? Nicks wont look as good without Cruz… goodluck telling yourself “it will all be okay”. Just keep repeating it over and over again.
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    This would be the first guy crying if a Giant fan were posting on a egals thread.

    In the last 50 years:
    Giants 4 championships
    Eagles ZERO

    It’s obvious you’re jealous but you mad too bro?

  36. Bobonmycob…. Look at all the Giants fans backtracking LOL how hilarious! You all were dead set on Cruz being with the team again and praising how great he is now you say “cut him and move on… we got Nicks” LOL… So what is it? Nicks wont look as good without Cruz… goodluck telling yourself “it will all be okay”. Just keep repeating it over and over again.

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    Huge giants fan here, always and forever. IT WILL BE OK. We have Eli and the best management in the game. As much as you have to choke on it, the Giants have 2 very recent SBs that prove that very fact. Cruz is not worth 11mil, an average of 8.5-9 over multiple years is the most IMO. Eli can turn almost anyone into a stud at a fraction of that price leaving more money for their D. Eli has proven it over and over and over. So obviously all giants fans want Cruz back, every person that has a favourite team would want him but only a fool would pay 11 mil.

  37. I know he is considered a slot receiver, however he can play outside and had posted better numbers than both Wallace and Harvin for 2 straight years. Giants would be irrelevant on and off the field without him. Pay the man or someone else will

  38. Curz you are only as good as your QB. Don’t be greedy, take the 7mil a year win another SB with Eli.

  39. I agree with schmigles.
    Playing the slot doesn’t mean you’re nothing but a 5 yard safety valve. That was just Wes Welker’s role in NEs offense. He is the most famous slot reciever, so people assume that’s what a slot guy is.

    Cruz is a big play threat. In no way should he be devalued because he lines up in the middle of the field. Or at least not too much.

    That being said, if I ran a football team, I wouldn’t give Jerry rice 10mil a year. I would just find a qb who could make poor receivers look good.

    Like a few years ago in Indy. People thought Austin collie and Pierre garçon were great. That worked out…

  40. @bobonmycob: Nicks already looked great and elite before Cruz. Nicks had over 1000 yards in 2010 and in his rookie season he was almost at 900 yards and he only played 14 games.
    The Giants don’t need Cruz. Cruz needs the Giants. He fits into their system, even Eli said so last week.

  41. God talk about made up. If you follow tge link Ralph is quoting a source from back when Cruz was with his own agent and months before that new Giants offer leaked a few weeks back. This is all old news.

  42. Got to throw a jab at the dolphins whenever ya can. Wallace was paid handsomly, The undisputed best deep threat in the game got paid Top 5 money on the free agent market…. But ofcourse, the phins made an act of “desperation” by simply using their free cap space on one of the best available players @ a need, in turn distorting the value of all WRs. (/sarcasm) There’s a story. Ignore that Harvin the Headache was paid more, and cost a high draft pick as well.

    Cruz is actually a better investment than both of them. Well worth 10m. Another team will pay it.

  43. Ok Victor, c’mon man 7 mill is a big increase from what you made last year (little over 1/2mill) I’d say this is a hell of a raise take it man and quit being greedy.

  44. I love Cruz, but last season he disappeared in too many games. And those games happened to be ones that Nicks was out or not effective. Without Nicks (and Eli of course!) Cruz is probably an average receiver. I do think he’s more than a slot receiver, but not a # 1 wideout.

    Also, Cruz must think of the side money he makes by playing in the NY market. Not sure how marketable Cleveland Browns or Oakland Raiders jerseys to big companies.

  45. Think about it, if Cruz plays under his tender this season he’s going to make less that what Reese is trying to put in his pocket without any guaranteed money then become a UFA next season, ok fine but who wants that greedy attitude in their locker room after seeing what he just put his previous team through? not a contender team they’re not going to put up with that mess at his position and from someone that was never drafter, should be happy they are even playing in the NFL and that a team gave them a chance from the beginning and now want to act like they’re the best player at their position with just two years under his belt coming out of UMass a no name. They should trade him for the second or third pick and draft the slot from WV that kid can play football and whoever gets him will get some production and I guarantee you he won’t turn down whatever Reese offers him. Cruz is losing the respect of giant fans I know he knows this.

  46. Cruz isnt losing our respect, he’s losing our patience. I think it was fair for him, after playing his heart out for the minimum to shoot for the maximum. But no one has stepped up to pay it – at least not when it come at the added draft pick cost.

    Now he has to decide – does he play at 2.7 – and play hard enough to earn a UFA payday the following year, or does he accept as everyone seems to acknowledge a fair payout in a major media/endorsement market?

    Your QB and O-lineman are willing to restructure to keep you, you are carving out a UNIQUE slot receiver role within THIS SYSTEM, but the clock is ticking on many fronts.

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