Philip Rivers thinks he’s played “pretty dang good”

AP

Speculation about a quarterback’s future after a regime change is natural.

But Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers defended his record this week, saying he doesn’t feel like his job’s on the line.

“As far as whatever the numbers say over the last few years, and I say this humbly and respectfully, I played in 110 straight games or more, and have thrown a bunch of touchdowns, and over a seven-year period the ratio of touchdowns and interceptions is pretty dang good,” Rivers said, via Tom Krasovic of U-T San Diego. “So, I don’t feel like, ‘Oh, man, I’m in a struggling mode,’ or ‘Gosh, if I don’t play [well] this year, I’m out of football.’ ”

He shouldn’t feel that way. The actual numbers are 112 straight starts, with 189 touchdowns and 93 interceptions. The pick rate is up (35 the last two years, after 58 his first five years as a starter), but his touchdown rate has been largely consistent.

He’s been victimized by an overall dip in talent the last two years (trying to replace Vincent Jackson with Robert Meachem was a bad idea), and the general malaise that leads to coaches and GMs being fired en masse.

“I think this league’s about winning, more than anything,” he said. “And the bottom line is we’ve been a .500 team for three years. We’ve been out of the playoffs for three years. I look at it that way more than anything. I’m the leader of this group.

“I want to play well because I want us to win. Our goal is to win the AFC West. Obviously everybody’s goal is to win a championship – but that’s the championship we want to win and focus on.”

While Rivers was comfortable (perhaps too much so) playing under Norv Turner, the Chargers have surrounded him with a quarterback-friendly coaching staff including head coach Mike McCoy, coordinator Ken Whisenhunt and position coach Frank Reich.

If they could fix the supporting cast, Rivers should be able to turn things around. He’s proven himself to be all the quarterback a good team needs, and “pretty dang good,” is a reasonable way to describe it.

39 responses to “Philip Rivers thinks he’s played “pretty dang good”

  1. Meachum didnt help but the biggest issue with the group of receivers is the preseason injury to emerging Vincent Brown. They get him back and Alexander signs his tender and thats 3 6’5” guys. Fix the o-line and Mathews grows up and this offense is dangerous again

  2. Phillip has done a great job. No Oline would any QB struggle. He has been trying to hard last years trying make things happen with less talent. We fix the Oline and give him some guys to throw to he will be a top 5 QB again.

  3. I don’t say this in defense of Rivers, but he may be the slowest running quarterback in the league other than Peyton Manning, and the offensive line they have put out there the last two years have been a joke, so how can you expect his numbers to stay the same? When you put a guy that can’t get away from pass rushers behind a line like that, and take away some of his best play makers (Jackson, Sproles, Gates is not close to what he used to be), struggles should be expected. If you put Peyton Manning on the Chargers last year, I bet they still don’t make the playoffs.

  4. Rivers isn’t the problem. He needs people around him that actually want to be there and have the same desire to compete on a weekly basis.

    He gets horrid protection from the left side of the OL, lacks good talent at the receiver position — other than Danario Alexander who should breakout this season (Floyd isn’t terrible but he could be better) — let’s not forget Mathews injury history and inconsistent running game in general. And that’s just the offensive side of the ball!

  5. Rivers is right, it’s not his fault AJ Smith thought he was the John Wayne of NFL GMs. Playing hardball and taking no-nonsense stands with your players is good every once in a while but that buffoon let all the talent walk right out the door.

    Vincent Jackson is still the deep passing threat every team covets and Darren Sproles sets a new all-purpose yardage record every other year and reminds us mid-timers of Barry Sanders. The replacements AJ brought in have proven to be busts, and as a result of his hard headedness AJ lost his job and the Chargers lost their status as contenders…

  6. Before Romo’s deal I thought trading Romo for Rivers straight up would be good for both players and teams.

  7. He finished with 26 TDS 15 INTS last season. That is a good year. The problem with Philip these last two years has been WHEN his turnovers have occurred. It seems they occur at the absolute WORST possible time (like the fumble in KC two years ago). This is why it seems he is declining. I can’t imagine how bad the Bolts would be without Rivers. Here’s hoping McCoy and Telesco can put a decent line in front of him!

  8. As someone who has had Phillip on his fantasy team for the past two years, I have to respectfully disagree.

  9. What about when he had a top 10 defense, RB duo of Tomlison & Turner, and the WR/TE trio of Jackson Floyd and Gates?? Serious question not being sarcastic one bit. What I’m simply trying to imply is how can one say “If he had this or if he had that” when HE HAD ALL THAT and did very little come playoff time. Now if you wanna talk about regular season wins and high individual stats during that time…well then he’s was the man as he put up top 5 numbers but we all know postseason WINS is all that matters.

  10. Rivers is a master of empty smack talk. He’s gets warranted criticism for his ho hum play. He lost me more than a few fantasy games. His talk is elite, but his play is mediocre.

    He should be more like the best QB to play at NC State, Russell Wilson, who talks less and plays more. Philip’s stock is way down and the excuses don’t fly. The Chargers will bring in a potential starter if they are smart.

    You have to think they regret the Brees blunder even more now.

  11. Rivers is too much of a gentleman and teammate to come out and say the truth– The OLine has been horrendous over the last few years.

    He’s always running for his life and having to rush throws. He’s always in 3rd and long because the line can’t establish a running game.

    And Norv’s playcalling became so darn predictable. Very happy new offensive ideas and strategies have come to Murphy Canyon.

  12. Hahaha good ole right handed Tebow loves to pat himself on the back trying winning a playoff game or getting there people love this dude and hate Tony Romo for the same play basically

  13. I was never that impressed with him but I have to admit that previous regime was totally dysfunctional. The only question now is did they really clean house enough to rid themselves of all the reasons that made Archie refuse to let Eli go there?

  14. Rivers is a hick. Can’t stand him. They obviously haven’t surrounded him with quality talent the last couple of years but the throws he was making at times were horrible. Forcing it, inaccurate. Horrible mechanics. Don’t put that on the surrounding talent. That’s on him. I hope he fails miserably.

    Btw, go Raiders!

  15. In the games I watched Rivers play last year, his O-Line wasn’t his problem. He was holding the ball way too long, had almost no feel of when the pocket was collapsing around him, and his throwing motion just looked like he was pushing the ball forward. I know his offense has lost a lot of weapons, but I think Rivers is a big part of the problem… he just doesn’t look like the same player he was 5 years ago.

  16. People gave Eli a hard time for not going to the Chargers. All he has to show for his decision are two Super Bowl rings. They let go of Brees – all he has to show for it is one. And Ryan Leaf is in prison.

    “Pretty dang good” Rivers has stuck with a busted franchise and is doing his best. Good for him.

  17. humbleminded85 says:
    Apr 17, 2013 12:58 PM
    What about when he had a top 10 defense, RB duo of Tomlison & Turner, and the WR/TE trio of Jackson Floyd and Gates?? Serious question not being sarcastic one bit. What I’m simply trying to imply is how can one say “If he had this or if he had that” when HE HAD ALL THAT and did very little come playoff time. Now if you wanna talk about regular season wins and high individual stats during that time…well then he’s was the man as he put up top 5 numbers but we all know postseason WINS is all that matters.
    ______________________________
    I like you even though you are a Ravens fan,
    ( 😉 )so I’ll respond: You are correct. SD at one time had a very good defense under Wade P, a great bunch of skill players and a pretty good HC (Marty not Norv). I think SD’s biggest issues were always mental ones, like braincramps at the wrong time, lack of ability to take coaching, or just straight lack of mental toughness as a team. Also bad situational football in general. It’s why they are comparable to Dallas to me. Exhibit A:when SD was playing my Pats in the playoffs in Marty’s last go round at HC in 06. There is footage I’ve seen of that game where Marty is reminding Drayton Florence that if he gets an INT to SIT DOWN…don’t try to advance it. So what happens? McCree decides to run with a TB int and Troy Brown happens….turnover again, Pats ball again. So Marty coaches it right (but maybe doesn’t tell all the DBs as a group, not sure), Mc Cree makes a great play, then does something idiotic to mess it up for the Chargers. That sums up SD right there.

    I think they are on the right track since they dumped Norv and AJ, we’ll see.

    I am not a Rivers hater at all, but it doesn’t behoove him as a leader to talk about how well he thinks he’s played despite his team’s struggles. Ugh…not a good look.

  18. Rivers struggle can be blamed on two things: his offensive line is probably the worst in the league and the lack of skill position players, whether its injuries or them leaving the team.

    One possible factor maybe that having as many kids as he does have under one house can be a drag. I think he’s at 6 or 7 right now. Not saying it’s a bad thing, but young children aren’t easy to watch over when there is a lot of them. Just a speculative thought.

  19. Also I am sick of people picking on SD for “dumping Brees”. It was 100 % correct by AJ (and I don’t say that often). First of all Brees had an injured throwing shoulder and was a FA. Second of all they had a young QB drafted in 04 they had waiting in the wings for 2 years. People forget how much better Payton makes Brees and that Brees had exactly one fantastic season in SD which was the 04 season. You know, the one right after AFTER the Chargers drafted Rivers because they didn’t think Brees was progressing fast enough. Brees was decent/competent in SD with one great season, not a world beater. I mean P. Manning had a great career in Indy, had a devestating injury, and not many people thought the Colts were wrong to move on when theyknew they could get Luck.

  20. This statement – along with the weirdest throwing motion this side of Tim Tebow – is just one reason why Rivers has done nothing and will never do anything.

  21. Give him protection and he will be great again. In the last 3 years combined he was the most sacked QB in the league. Even with less talent around him he will make other players better. He needs help at the O-line. That’s it.

  22. Philip is pretty dang awesome. All you haters are jealous. He is a good ol boy who is as competative as it gets. He is a family guy who doesn’t cuss or have any type of off the field issues. His only problem is that he tries to do to much, if he is not a bolt for life I would be pretty bummed.

  23. footballgod87 says:
    Apr 17, 2013 12:59 PM
    Carson Palmer 2.0. The numbers are pretty, but if you watch the games you will see critical errors at the wrong time

    Not even close. Carson is a classless quitter and Rivers played with if I remember a torn acl. A quitter would never do that. If the chargers don’t want him come to cincy to compete with the red rifle.

  24. from humbleminded:
    What about when he had a top 10 defense, RB duo of Tomlison & Turner, and the WR/TE trio of Jackson Floyd and Gates?? Serious question not being sarcastic one bit. What I’m simply trying to imply is how can one say “If he had this or if he had that” when HE HAD ALL THAT and did very little come playoff time. Now if you wanna talk about regular season wins and high individual stats during that time…well then he’s was the man as he put up top 5 numbers but we all know postseason WINS is all that matters.
    ———————-

    exactly, last time they were in the playoff, they got stomped by the steelers….crushed, obliterated, it wasnt even close…so he had all the weapons he needed…and when it came time to man-up, a real NFL team delivered a beat-down.

  25. It’s like the more they talk honestly and directly, the less fans can hear.

    A QB doesn’t win games by himself. Never has, never will.

    Rivers, like Flacco, E Manning, Rob Johnson, Kaepernick, Matt Hasselback and a dozen others, is “good enough” to win a few playoff games. Chargers have been short on talent everywhere else since ’09.

    QB is a major piece of the puzzle you can build around because a good one avoids turnovers, puts up points, rests the defense, etc. but, damn, every good QB needs help.

  26. Rivers caught the Favre-itis two seasons ago. Including the perenially weakening roster. Now the only thing left is for SD to ignore building it back up and draft his replacement.

  27. He also admits that winning is the bottom line and owns up to them not winning. Still, most teams would be happy to have Rivers as their QB, so Charger fans shouldn’t be too down on him.. Don’t forget how bad it was at the QB position prior to Brees and Rivers

  28. Looking at River’s numbers, one would be nuts to question the quality of his play and future. 2012 aside, look at what he has done compared to his peers. The problem is his great play and stats cannot make up for giving up points. He has surpassed 25k total yards in the seventh fastest rate ever! If the Chargers defense stopped the opponents in kind, they all would be wearing three rings. It is not time to be divisive, it is time to support a proven quarterback and hope the new staff whips the entire team concept together.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!