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Les Miles doesn’t know how many drug tests Tyrann Mathieu failed

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Tyrann Mathieu says he failed more than 10 drug tests before he got kicked off the football team at LSU. Coach Les Miles says he doesn’t know if that’s true or not — but Miles does stand by the way LSU handles drug tests for its players.

Miles said on NFL AM that he doesn’t know how many drug tests Mathieu failed at LSU, but he does know that LSU was committed to helping Mathieu in whatever way it could.

“I don’t really have the numbers there,” Miles said. “I would be remiss to comment on number. I can tell you this: We have tested, re-tested, completely tested and tested twice in weeks at times. So just because there’s a number reported, I don’t know if that would be low or high, to be honest with you, and I can only tell you that it was based on our ability to treat and help. I don’t really know exactly what Ty’s specifics were, but I stand by our policy, and it really did help, in some way, identify a problem.”

On the field, Miles said he thinks Mathieu will be a big-time special teams contributor, although Miles doesn’t sound like he sees Mathieu as a shutdown cornerback in the NFL.

“He’s a guy who has spectacular ball skills. I’ve never seen him mishandle a ball. His vision for play, he anticipates the big play,” Miles said. “If I’m an NFL team I’m going to look at him first as a punt returner, I’m going to look at him as a kick returner, and the opportunity for him to play in a number of spots as a nickel/dime corner.”

Miles said he’s hoping Mathieu gets drafted and succeeds as an NFL player.

“He’s a guy that we certainly root for,” Miles said. “Not unlike other people, there are things that he has to get right, and if he does that I think he’ll have a very, very long NFL career.”

If Mathieu is going to have a very, very long NFL career, he won’t be able to get away with failing more than 10 drug tests.

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43 Responses to “Les Miles doesn’t know how many drug tests Tyrann Mathieu failed”
  1. grpatriot says: Apr 18, 2013 9:56 AM

    The “weed value quotient” player will go 2 rounds lower than expected……Nobody cares about positive weed results!

  2. cakemixa says: Apr 18, 2013 9:57 AM

    If he can play, no one is going to care about his failed drug tests in college.

  3. getyourownname says: Apr 18, 2013 10:06 AM

    So Les, can you tell us what is LSU’s maximum number of failed drug tests before a player is suspended?

  4. scmems07 says: Apr 18, 2013 10:06 AM

    “come on people, i only have 10 fingers…. Oh wait, i forgot i had toes… Hold on”

    Les miles

  5. myschwartzisbiggerthenyours says: Apr 18, 2013 10:07 AM

    If this were a backup player he would have been kicked off the team immediatly but because he was a starting CB it was ok that he failed 10+ drug tests.

  6. miguelromerorhpat says: Apr 18, 2013 10:07 AM

    Now ypu know that theres something more important than the pot Mathieu??..

  7. bigdinla says: Apr 18, 2013 10:14 AM

    If you can’t shut down Norwood, you can’t shutdown any good NFL WR. He is a STs and dime package guy. Drafted in the 5th or 6th round would be proper value.

  8. floridaslonechargersfan says: Apr 18, 2013 10:22 AM

    Does Les Miles really give a damn about anything that relates to his football team other than his team scoring more points than their opponents on Saturdays?

  9. morgusthemagnificent says: Apr 18, 2013 10:39 AM

    Wait a second, we’re those Les Miles quotes? Where are all the “uhh’s and umm’s and you know’s”???

  10. oldlineman says: Apr 18, 2013 10:41 AM

    Yep, who cares what happened at LSU when this kid is on the ESPN highlight’s returning punts in the big time. . Will Seattle care about Percys Florida/Vikings issues? Its the what have you done for me lately league!

  11. ndrick731 says: Apr 18, 2013 10:41 AM

    Come on people. It’s SEC. The only thing that matters is winning. It just goes to prove that the NCAA is a joke. The SEC would have been shut down if the NCAA was doing its job correctly.

  12. doomsdaydefensetx says: Apr 18, 2013 10:46 AM

    Smoking pot and failing drug screens is a lot better than not being able to remember how many DUI’s you’ve got..

  13. ajgreenshands says: Apr 18, 2013 10:47 AM

    this is not surprising, coming from a coach who ordered his qb to spike the ball on 4th down.

  14. dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 10:50 AM

    Drugs are for losers. The fact that this kid valued pot over playing college football speaks volumes. If he is drafted high, chances are that he will use the money to buy pot, and soon he will make pot a priority over his NFL career.
    It’s happened before yet fans and teams forget.

  15. dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 10:54 AM

    Don’t blame Les Miles. This guy is a legal adult and CHOSE to take illegal drugs of his own volition. Miles did not make him do it.
    Matheiu wanted to be “cool” like his buddies and smoke pot. He could have said no, like Nancy Reagan said…Just say NO…but he CHOSE not to and smoked it. Now he pays for those poor choices and if he falls to the 7th round then that is what he deserves.
    Personal accountability is sorely lacking in todays youth.

  16. Cereal says: Apr 18, 2013 10:59 AM

    Do we need an actual # ? Put it this way, he smoked weed every day as millions do.

  17. thedoubleentandres says: Apr 18, 2013 10:59 AM

    if he is drafted HIGH??? heehee

  18. macfunden says: Apr 18, 2013 11:05 AM

    I’m sure Miles knows but does it really matter what the actual number is? It was enough where the program had to kick him out. People make big mistakes in life. I hope the young man straightens himself out and is a success story in the future.

  19. tedstheman says: Apr 18, 2013 11:16 AM

    Les Miles is a liar. He knows exactly how many drugs tests Mathieu failed as well as how many tests other players on the team fialed. He’s the Head Coach….the info goes to him first. Hiw stupid does he think we are

  20. granadafan says: Apr 18, 2013 11:22 AM

    What an absolute disgrace Les Miles and Louisiana State “University” are. If I was an alum of this “University”, I’d be embarrassed that the coach has such disregard for education and the law. Shame on Les Miles and shame on the school president. Clearly winning football games trumps education and the law.

  21. melkipershero says: Apr 18, 2013 11:38 AM

    Its funny how its always SEC is the devil. Do understand a large amount of these athletes smoke weed in every conference? Hell Oregon had a whole story in ESPN the mag

  22. dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 11:40 AM

    This guy did not make a “mistake”. He made a CHOICE, pot over football. It is that simple. I do not see too many highly successful people who are pot smokers.
    Shame on Mathieu, he brought this on himself. Do not blame Les Miles or LSU. Law you say granadafan? The LAW says pot is illegal, yet this guy chose to break the law and now he is a criminal.

  23. mkbane says: Apr 18, 2013 11:47 AM

    Les Miles is right, it did identify a problem: That LSU’s testing and policies are a joke.

  24. radrntn says: Apr 18, 2013 11:53 AM

    funny the hypocrisy that you can’t smoke pot, but you can do all the steroids you want

  25. philadeath2u says: Apr 18, 2013 11:58 AM

    Its more likely that the honey Badger will go high to the Draft than in it!

  26. marcinhouston says: Apr 18, 2013 12:01 PM

    If you read carefully, what he is saying is they re-test samples to be sure of result and they sometimes test days after a test, so players cannot go party the night after the test and use some drug that only stays in your system a few days relying on spacing between tests to protect them. Mathieu used a drug that stays in your system longer. So, for example, Mathieu could have smoked pot once, got tested, failed, had the sample re-tested, failed, then had a surprise test 4 days later when things were obviously still in his system, and failed twice again from the test and duplicate sample, making 4 failed tests that really amount to one incident. If LSU has a frequent testing system designed to catch drugs that only stay in your system a few days, then obviously a player who uses a drug that stays in your system for months is going to fail a lot of tests and it will be hard for the team to tell if it is isolated incidents or addiction.

  27. romoscollarbone says: Apr 18, 2013 12:05 PM

    Why would his failed tests be public record? Les is protecting himself and the Univ, from potential litigation.

    What if he came out and said, no he failed 16 tests and then the kid wasn’t drafted. He’d come back and sue on the basis that, Miles’ words damaged his chances.

  28. dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 12:15 PM

    How about this? When a player signs his LOI, he also signs a form an agreement that states that if he takes/possesses/sells/distributes illegal drugs, is caught drinking while underage, gets a DUI/DWI/open container, is charged with domestic violence, is charged with any crimes, then he forfeits his scholarship forthwith.

    This way they are told what they can and can not do, and what the consequences are if they break the agreement.
    If you Mom tells you not to touch a hot stove, and you do it and get burned, is it her fault? No, it’s your own damn fault. If you keep touching the damn stove and keep burning yourself, and you’ve been told not to do it but you ignore that advice, then you deserve what you get.

  29. xinellum says: Apr 18, 2013 12:17 PM

    Different drugs show in different tests for longer periods of time. Opiates 3 days, Cocaine approximately 24 hrs, same with alcohol but marijuana is 30 days because it is stored in fat cells and slowly released. So although he may have failed for opiates and marijuana, in a week they test him again and he is clean of opiates but the marijuana till shows. They knew it would show but wanted to test for opiates which he passed but technically failed the test cause of the marijuana. Although he may not have done pointers or weed in that time period, still a failed test but not a failed system. That is why he said we test up to three times a week. Until you know what is going on don’t be so self righteous and critical of what those 10 tests mean.

  30. ebr362 says: Apr 18, 2013 12:18 PM

    LSU next up for investigation….imo

  31. xinellum says: Apr 18, 2013 12:19 PM

    Since marijuana is legal in Colorado and Washington state does that mean the broncos and Seahawks can’t be tested because they are not violating a law and no one considers marijuana a performance enhancer unless sleeping and eating is part of being a pro player.

  32. miamiron says: Apr 18, 2013 12:46 PM

    More failed drug tests than bench presses at the combine…I think we can safely say he also had more failed drug tests than his wonderlic score

  33. jaguar0413 says: Apr 18, 2013 12:57 PM

    What a disgusting comment. LSU and the NCAA are such a joke. They don’t care at all about these players or their well being. How could they not get this guy some help?

    It’s especially detestable that the NCAA went so strongly against Ohio State and Miami for their violations, but has completely ignored the insane drug use at LSU.

  34. philadeath2u says: Apr 18, 2013 1:01 PM

    Its more likely that the honey Badger will go high to the Draft than in it. Quote of the day!

  35. kingpel says: Apr 18, 2013 1:15 PM

    At LSU, they just stop counting once they run out of fingers.

  36. immafubared says: Apr 18, 2013 1:28 PM

    Now that there is just downright punny! Its more downright un believable because drug tests results are not private to the people who have a need to know. They are private if you pass the tests but not if you fail them and the tester must provide a detailed report to whomever in the organization does have the right to see them.

    I worked in govt transportation and know all about the testing process. Pretty much the same rules apply about confidentiality and right to know.

  37. macfunden says: Apr 18, 2013 1:37 PM

    @drzzy- A choice and a mistake are not mutually exclusive, but fine…

    “I’m sure Miles knows but does it really matter what the actual number is? It was enough where the program had to kick him out. People make BAD CHOICES in life. I hope the young man straightens himself out and is a success story in the future”.

  38. majormeatcurtains says: Apr 18, 2013 1:46 PM

    dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 10:54 AM

    Don’t blame Les Miles. This guy is a legal adult and CHOSE to take illegal drugs of his own volition. Miles did not make him do it.
    Matheiu wanted to be “cool” like his buddies and smoke pot. He could have said no, like Nancy Reagan said…Just say NO…but he CHOSE not to and smoked it. Now he pays for those poor choices and if he falls to the 7th round then that is what he deserves.
    Personal accountability is sorely lacking in todays youth.
    ————————————————————–
    Exactly. Everyone knows how young men of color relate to and look up to Nancy Reagan. I bet he and all his friends were members of the young republicans in college, listening to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck with pin ups of Ann Coulter in their dorm…

  39. gacoltfan says: Apr 18, 2013 2:00 PM

    dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 11:40 AM

    This guy did not make a “mistake”. He made a CHOICE, pot over football. It is that simple. I do not see too many highly successful people who are pot smokers.

    ———————————————————-
    I would say that many highly successful people did smoke pot in college. Some even inhaled.

  40. granadafan says: Apr 18, 2013 2:14 PM

    dryzzt23 says: Apr 18, 2013 11:40 AM
    Shame on Mathieu, he brought this on himself. Do not blame Les Miles or LSU. Law you say granadafan? The LAW says pot is illegal, yet this guy chose to break the law and now he is a criminal.”
    ==================================================

    @dryzzt23, yes, you can blame Les Miles and the administration for this mess by keeping honeybadger on the team for so long. They coddled him and other stars by letting them get away with this and not doing anything. Yes, Tyrone is ultimately responsible for his own choices. Les Miles has a responsibility to protect the school by kicking him off the team. Any REASONABLE coach would have booted him off the team long ago if he couldn’t get his smoking under control. But hey, Tyrone was a star, so of course Les let him fail test after test (repeat more than 10 times).

    Your kind of thinking is why Joe Paterno allowed a pedophile to prey on children on the Penn St campus. Hey, pedophilia is against the LAW and Sandusky is a criminal. But, look WHERE he committed his crimes and WHO allowed him to do it as long as the millions were coming in.

  41. starchybunker says: Apr 18, 2013 2:45 PM

    tedstheman says:
    “Hiw stupid does he think we are”

    see, its funny because…

  42. bat42boy says: Apr 18, 2013 5:18 PM

    What a bunch of crap and lies. He knew everything about the tests. He’s the coach and should know everything. Otherwise he should be fired!!!

  43. raiderapologist says: Apr 18, 2013 8:23 PM

    granadafan says: Apr 18, 2013 11:22 AM

    What an absolute disgrace Les Miles and Louisiana State “University” are. If I was an alum of this “University”, I’d be embarrassed that the coach has such disregard for education and the law. Shame on Les Miles and shame on the school president. Clearly winning football games trumps education and the law.
    ————–
    For Miles, winning football games does trump education and law. That’s his job. It’s not ideal, but major college football is big business. LSU isn’t paying Miles 4.3M per year because they’re impressed with his graduation rate.

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