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Mickey Loomis says no Chris Ivory deal is imminent

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The pre-draft press conferences held by NFL general managers are normally short on specifics, but Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis did own up to something on Tuesday afternoon.

He admitted that the Saints have engaged in trade talk with the Jets about running back Chris Ivory. The Jets hosted Ivory on a visit before he signed his restricted free agent tender with the Saints last week and there were reports of a trade offer on the table even before Ivory put pen to paper. Larry Holder of the New Orleans Times-Picayune reports that Loomis also said that there have been discussions with other teams regarding a deal for Ivory.

No deal is imminent at the moment, although there wouldn’t figure to be much action this far ahead of the middle rounds of the draft. The Jets are believed to be offering something around the fifth round and the Saints don’t need to be in any hurry to take that pick without letting the early rounds of the draft play out first.

With Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles and Mark Ingram at running back, the Saints have enough depth to trade Ivory without hurting their run game. Given their needs on defense and at left tackle, an extra pick could come in handy later this week.

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28 Responses to “Mickey Loomis says no Chris Ivory deal is imminent”
  1. philyeagles5 says: Apr 23, 2013 5:30 PM

    Ivorys their best RB.

  2. prmpft says: Apr 23, 2013 5:31 PM

    I am in the line to vote for shipping mark ingram’s sorry butt out of N.O.. If Ivory got as many chances as that low producing scoundrel (flashes of brilliance are no guarantee of greatness) – he’d be unmovable – not sure what Payton’s so enamored with there – but Ivory is the guy to keep for sure.

  3. sbc85 says: Apr 23, 2013 5:51 PM

    “philyeagles5 says:Apr 23, 2013 5:30 PM

    Ivorys their best RB.”
    ===

    No, he’s not. Can’t pass protect, can’t catch passes, gets injured way too much because of the way he runs. Pierre Thomas is the Saints’ best all-around RB.

  4. tincansailor981 says: Apr 23, 2013 5:56 PM

    No brainier here: keep Ivory and get rid of Mark Ingram’s sorry behind. He’s done nothing since coming to New Orleans. His most memorable play was getting stuffed by the Packers on the goal line when going for the potential winning score. He plain sucks.

  5. hpeters77 says: Apr 23, 2013 6:00 PM

    Personally I do not want Ivory to leave, Sproles is definitely our best back but Thomas and Ivory are neck and neck. Ingram I have not seen enough out of him yet to make an opinion

  6. leightonbreard says: Apr 23, 2013 6:11 PM

    IT’S NOT EASY TO GIVE UP ON A FIRST ROUNDER LIKE INGRAM! Now if value was there for Ingram they probably would’ve dealt him but no one is giving up a 1st round pick for Ingram so why trade him for a mid round pick when you can trade Thomas or Ivory but yes I love Ivory’ s game but it’s diminished in a RB system like the Saints use so why they drafted Ingram to begin with is the big question but I guess since he was the highest graded player in that draft by alot of analyst and he fell and I guess Sean and Mickey thought he was a steal at 25 but we’ll see if he was in the near future but he hasn’t been yet so alot to prove still! Considering Ingram would be the top RB in this yrs draft by a wide margin so giv

  7. saintswillwin says: Apr 23, 2013 6:22 PM

    “No brainier here: keep Ivory and get rid of Mark Ingram’s sorry behind. He’s done nothing since coming to New Orleans. His most memorable play was getting stuffed by the Packers on the goal line when going for the potential winning score. He plain sucks.”

    First off, the goal line play would not have been a game-winner; the Saints were down by 8 points and need that TD + 2-pt conversion to send game to OT.

    Second, I blame Payton/Brees for running that play; Helen Keller & Ray Charles knew that it was a running play. Brees should have audibled out of it to a QB bootleg or quick pass and it would have been a walk-in score. No guarantee that Saints would have converted 2-pt conversion or won in OT but that is a another debate.

    I have never been a big fan of the the decision of drafting Ingram, but as much as I like the way Tusk plays, he is a liability in his ability, or lack thereof, to do things the Saints want to do in certain situations; he’s not a good pass catcher, he is not good as picking up blitzes AND he is injuried a lot. Some of his injuries can be attributed to his style of running, but if he’s not on the field, then he might as well be gone.

  8. uncletuna says: Apr 23, 2013 6:24 PM

    Saints should demand from the Jets what they paid for Vilma…

    Saints sent a 2008 fourth round draft pick and a 2009 draft pick for a linebacker…

    Ivory is the best pure back and he scores touchdowns…

    If Mickey Loomis gets anything less, he’ll confirm he’s the most overrated GM in football, living off the success of the Payton-Brees team…

  9. ilovefoolsball says: Apr 23, 2013 6:35 PM

    I vote for Pierre Thomas as the best all around Saints running back.

    Ivory can be a beast and I would hate to see him go but I don’t know if he could make it through an entire season as the #1 back.

  10. prmpft says: Apr 23, 2013 6:44 PM

    saintswillwin – (Who Dat by the way)…
    Can you say (let us blame Payton/Brees for the call) that Ivory would not have had a better chance of making that play than ingram – because that is EXACTLY what I am saying! Who Dat again!

  11. whiteknightblackheart says: Apr 23, 2013 7:06 PM

    uncletuna says:
    Apr 23, 2013 6:24 PM
    Saints should demand from the Jets what they paid for Vilma…

    Saints sent a 2008 fourth round draft pick and a 2009 draft pick for a linebacker…

    Ivory is the best pure back and he scores touchdowns…

    If Mickey Loomis gets anything less, he’ll confirm he’s the most overrated GM in football, living off the success of the Payton-Brees team…
    ————————————————
    Vilma was a first round draft pick, in the prime of his career as a 4-3 LB, and his trade begat a 4th rounder. You think an undrafted power back who can’t catch deserves the same trade? Considering the relative value of an RB in the moder NFL, are you out of your mind? If Loomis gets a 5th for Ivory, not only will he have gotten something for nothing for the SECOND TIME on the SAME PLAYER, he will have taken a position where he has too much strength and created the opportunity to spread it around. That right there is some masterful managing in my opinion, and how you build a team.

  12. dmp5687 says: Apr 23, 2013 7:37 PM

    Ivory is more than ivory, he is gold or platinum. Ingram eat too much soft food, he soft. Pierre Thomas even though he a frenchman a good runner, he got several pets.

  13. antonio says: Apr 23, 2013 7:39 PM

    Ivory is the most exciting RB on our team.

    Pierre Thomas is more versatile and reliable.

    Sproles is not an RB. He is a hybrid player. Too valuable, any discussion of letting him go is a non-starter.

    Ingram is the weakest link.

  14. kevinleeandrus says: Apr 23, 2013 7:50 PM

    Just a thought…how about trade Ivory + our 1st round pick to the Jets for their 13th overall pick if Mingo is still on the board..

    But anything under 4/5 round pick Saints should pass…

  15. samoanjungle says: Apr 23, 2013 7:59 PM

    Ivory to the Bengals

  16. dlk47823 says: Apr 23, 2013 8:27 PM

    As A jet fan, how does anyone really know how good Ivory is, he gets like 100 carries a year. Prove that you can tote it 250 plus times and the value goes sky high. Right now, who knows what he’s worth.

  17. dlk47823 says: Apr 23, 2013 8:31 PM

    He ‘s actually averaging about 80 carries a year. Curtis Martin had that in 2 games. Still has a lot to prove.

  18. tavia47 says: Apr 23, 2013 9:02 PM

    No matter what, you need to get more than a fifth round pick for him, don’t let them low ball you.

  19. farvite says: Apr 23, 2013 9:12 PM

    Would like to see him in Green Bay

  20. SeenThisB4 says: Apr 23, 2013 9:34 PM

    Last year the Saints carried five RBs on the
    Active 53: Ivory, Ingram, Thomas, Sproles,
    And Cadet. They can still carry four, easy. Ivory’s worth a lot
    More than a 5th round pick, way more.

  21. inphinitejest says: Apr 23, 2013 9:51 PM

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Miami make a play for Ivory. He could back up Lamar Miller, I don’t know if Daniel Thomas is going to pan out.

  22. saints29533 says: Apr 23, 2013 10:15 PM

    Ivory took all the carries his rookie year and just fine he could easily take carries all year

  23. sfsaintsfan says: Apr 23, 2013 10:24 PM

    Ivory is a beast of a runner when healthy. He is not a multi-dimensional running back, but he is a pure power runner. For a team in need of a power back who gives 100% on every play he would be a good fit. The Jets need such a player. The Saints do not. They are not a power running team. In an offense tailored to the running game, Ivory can be a very valuable asset. The Saints should hold out for a fourth round pick, in actuality, Ivory is probably worth a third rounder.

  24. spinmovr says: Apr 23, 2013 10:35 PM

    Ivory is a decent back in a crowded backfield in a league where RBs have minimal playmaker value now. Take what you can get. Those 85 carries per year can easily be spread out to the 4 remaining backs.

    In my opinion QBs have become exaggerated in importance. If you have a playmaker at any position, you build around that talent, period. Either way Ivory isn’t an Adrian Peterson type so there’s no need to pretend.

  25. heimerz says: Apr 23, 2013 11:49 PM

    Any team that gets Ivory for a 5th or even a 4th round pick is getting a steal.

    He is going to be a beast for someone next year.

  26. mon1622 says: Apr 24, 2013 1:36 AM

    Ingram and Jenkins for a 5 rounder.. hell a no rounder, lets just get them gone

  27. damayan5 says: Apr 24, 2013 7:56 AM

    Trading Ivory just doesnt make any sense other then wishfull thinking by Jets fans and media.

  28. mon1622 says: Apr 24, 2013 11:52 AM

    Why are we on offense. We need to be trading that defense. Jenkins has to go. If he don’t, its going to be another long year.

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