Skip to content

Bucs may trade back into first round

Mark Dominik AP

The Buccaneers have already spent their first-round draft pick on cornerback Darrelle Revis. But that doesn’t mean they’re taking Thursday night off.

In fact, Buccaneers General Manager Mark Dominik says he has looked at scenarios in which the Bucs will trade back into the first round of the draft, especially if a player they like starts to drop.

“You get a little antsy, but we’ve already gone through scenarios,” Dominik said, via the Tampa Bay Times. “Who are the guys you’d consider going to get depending on how far they drop? Here’s what it takes. We’ve gone through a lot of [debates] that way. . . . We walk into this draft with seven picks still. . . I think it allows you the ammunition to be able to move around and be fluid if you want to.”

The Bucs moved back into the first round last year, packaging a fourth-round pick with their second-round pick (No. 36 overall) so that they could get the No. 31 overall pick and draft running back Doug Martin. That worked out very well, so it’s not surprising that they’re thinking along those lines again.

This year the Bucs’ second-round pick is No. 43 overall. If a player they like is still on the board in the late 20s or early 30s, don’t be surprised if they package No. 43 and another pick to move back into the first round.

Permalink 45 Comments Feed for comments Latest Stories in: Rumor Mill, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Top Stories
45 Responses to “Bucs may trade back into first round”
  1. jm91rs says: Apr 24, 2013 11:56 AM

    I think any team that gives up a late 1st and doesn’t get their 1st next year is making a mistake. A 2 and 3 doesn’t have the value of a 1.

  2. gotampabay52 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:02 PM

    Let’s do this get back into the first

  3. jeagan1999 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:04 PM

    Dominik has really done a nice job the last couple years with the Bucs draft (D. Martin, Lavonte David, Mark Barron, Mason Foster, Adrian Clayborn, etc…) and bringing in some talented free agents like Revis, Vincent Jackson, Dashon Goldson and Carl Nicks. I would not be surprised to see the Bucs trade back into the first round for a DE or DT to bolster their pass rush. With their new and improved secondary (hopefully Ronde will return to play the nickel back), if the Bucs D-line can generate more heat on opposing QB’s this year, they are going to challenge for a playoff spot!

  4. jmac34 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:07 PM

    I could see GB trading back with Tampa

  5. thesteelers says: Apr 24, 2013 12:14 PM

    The Bucs have already dug themselves a hole trading for Mevis. I don’t see the value in trading away more of the future.

  6. alphaq2 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:15 PM

    As a ‘Skins fan I’d like to preface what I’m about to write with, good for you Buc’s fans. Your team is looking strong.

    I don’t understand how the Bucs did not get penalized for being below the salary cap floor during the uncapped year. Look at all these big name free agents the Bucs have been able to bring in. It’s a direct result of the cap space created by being under the floor. If the reasoning for the penalty to the ‘Skins and Boys was their moves created a sway in competitive balance then how is this not considered the same thing?

    Anyway, congrats Bucs fans! Your squad got away with it and is starting to look like a legit playoff team.

  7. ajg314 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:22 PM

    Keep trading away those draft picks the way Tannenbaum did with the Jets and it won’t be long before you wind up where Tannenbaum is today. I’m glad the Jets didn’t hire another guy with the same “trading up” mentality and losing draft picks because of it that Tannenbaum had.

  8. wludford says: Apr 24, 2013 12:22 PM

    There will be a lot of QB-needy teams looking to move up into the 1st round as well.

  9. lifeofcurley says: Apr 24, 2013 12:24 PM

    With the connection to Schiano guaranteed it’s the Pats who trade their pick to Tampa to trade back into the 1st.

  10. peytonsneck18 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:25 PM

    the colts are looking to move back and get more picks from 24, give us a 2nd and a 5th this year and u got a deal bucs

  11. olcap says: Apr 24, 2013 12:26 PM

    I like the Bucs’ chances this year. If Freeman starts strong, and stays focused, this team could definitely contend for a playoff spot.

  12. justsomerandomguy24 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:28 PM

    Trade the Pats their 4th round pick back to move up into the late first.

  13. dezno24 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:34 PM

    Chicago should look into this.

  14. glazerh8er says: Apr 24, 2013 12:38 PM

    If we trade back into the first round, make no mistake, it will be for another CB. We were #1 against the run and dead last against the pass. If we get any of the NFL ready CB’s watch out. PS- ajg314, how do you think the Doug Martin trade worked out for us? We gave up an extra 4th we had for him, we accumulate them too so we can go get our guys on draft day.

  15. skns2thend says: Apr 24, 2013 12:41 PM

    It’s not the order of your pick…it’s how you pick. Doug who??53rd overall?? Add I said it’s how and who, not the #of the pick. I don’t ever see Tampa being a decent contender until they restructure their personnel. I admit, they do produce great players, rather, keep some pretty God names on the team…though there’s always just a small piece missing that completes the Tampa franchise.

    HTTR

  16. freemanmvp says: Apr 24, 2013 12:41 PM

    Keep trading away those draft picks the way Tannenbaum did with the Jets and it won’t be long before you wind up where Tannenbaum is today. I’m glad the Jets didn’t hire another guy with the same “trading up” mentality and losing draft picks because of it that Tannenbaum had.

    The reason it didnt work for the Jets is because when they traded up they picked poorly unlike when the Bucs trade up.Dont worry Jet fan our GM knows what he is doing.Hopefuly your new GM does for Jets fans sake.

  17. glazerh8er says: Apr 24, 2013 12:41 PM

    I guess if one of the starting calliber DT/DE/ or even R-OT falls it could happen. Hell there are 70 plus players projected as 1st rounders…..some of the talent is going to fall, especially if a few teams reach for QB’s.

  18. krycek84 says: Apr 24, 2013 12:42 PM

    TE Tyler Eifert, OLB Arthur Brown, CB Desmond Trufant, DE Bjoern Werner and DT Sylvester Williams, if they are falling past #25, are worth a trade-up (2nd and 3rd of Tampa) to go in the 25-32 of the 1st round

  19. nflgiant says: Apr 24, 2013 12:44 PM

    The Bucs made a big mistake signing Revis,now they are sorry about giving #13 to the jets.Another dumb move by a franchise that wants to play with the big boys.

  20. modhairken says: Apr 24, 2013 12:46 PM

    “Dominik has really done a nice job the last couple years with the Bucs draft (D. Martin, Lavonte David, Mark Barron, Mason Foster, Adrian Clayborn, etc…) and bringing in some talented free agents like Revis, Vincent Jackson, Dashon Goldson and Carl Nicks.”

    Yes, and Dominik also cut Derrick Brooks, leaving the cupboard bare for veteran leadership when Morris took over, drafted Brian Price, and traded for Cancerous Kellen Winslow.

    Make no mistake, Dominik had no role in selecting Doug Martin or Lavonte David or Mark Barron. That was 100% Schiano.

    Vincent Jackson, Dashon Goldson and Carl Nicks came here for money and because Schiano has credibility; not because of Dominik.

  21. thehouseofho says: Apr 24, 2013 12:51 PM

    In what’s being called an historically bad draft, where talent between mid-first rounders and second rounders is indistinguishable, I could see every team with the 15th pick or lower champing at the bit to move out of the first round this year for at least a 2nd round pick this year and a 1st round pick next year–which will supposedly have much more talent.

  22. faepernick says: Apr 24, 2013 12:57 PM

    If they can move up and grab a DE watch out NFC South, the Bucs are going to be hard next year.

    They are not only physical on offense but are now going to be very physical on defense bringing in Goldson and Revis.

  23. crashlion says: Apr 24, 2013 1:18 PM

    What are they going to trade with? Hopes and dreams?

  24. shaggyjeff says: Apr 24, 2013 1:28 PM

    Margus hunt or Tyler Eifert or Kawann short ..any of those 3 would be awesome !

  25. shaggyjeff says: Apr 24, 2013 1:29 PM

    2nd and a 4th rd pick and leggarrette Blount. …could happen folks ..

  26. logisticalvoices says: Apr 24, 2013 1:39 PM

    alphaq2 says:
    Apr 24, 2013 12:15 PM
    As a ‘Skins fan I’d like to preface what I’m about to write with, good for you Buc’s fans. Your team is looking strong.

    I don’t understand how the Bucs did not get penalized for being below the salary cap floor during the uncapped year. Look at all these big name free agents the Bucs have been able to bring in. It’s a direct result of the cap space created by being under the floor. If the reasoning for the penalty to the ‘Skins and Boys was their moves created a sway in competitive balance then how is this not considered the same thing?

    Anyway, congrats Bucs fans! Your squad got away with it and is starting to look like a legit playoff team.
    ——————————–
    So I guess logicalvoicesays goes by alphaq2 now, eh?

  27. drew88mm says: Apr 24, 2013 1:39 PM

    It seems like fans of the better teams in the league are the one’s who have no idea what they are talking about. Steelers and Giants fans, just because your team has won the SB in the last five seasons doesn’t make you clowns the authority on every team in the league. Then to the Jets fan that said we are going to end up like them if we keep trading picks, thats the funniest joke I have ever heard. Obviously people don’t know about the genius that is Mark Dominik, besides drafting most of our cornerstone players, he has used the cap as his ally instead of spending freely every offseason with no eye on the future. Signing Revis for 16 a year isn’t a issue because we had 38 million in cap space, and we still have money to sign draft picks and re up Freeman and Mike Williams. You won’t see us cutting a bunch of guys to get under the cap (Steelers), or trading 3 future first rounders to draft a QB (Redskins). Dominik has had a vision since day 1 and has stayed steadfast over his five seasons. He completely rebuilt a team that made a deal with the devil when they traded 2 firsts for Keyshawn and 2 1sts and two 2nds for Gruden, it got them a Super Bowl but set us back a decade with those moves. Some clown above said that Dominik had nothing to do with last years draft picks, that statement makes absolutely no sense, and then to hate on Dom for drafting Brian Price, they guy tore both his hamstrings as a rookie and then that offseason half of his family was murdered (2 brothers and his sister). So I would hope you cut that guy some slack, he also adopted his sisters two daughters.

  28. jeagan1999 says: Apr 24, 2013 1:44 PM

    crashlion says:
    “What are they going to trade with? Hopes and dreams?”

    Actually, despite trading their #1 this year for Darrelle Revis, Tampa still has 8 selections left in this years draft, including 2 picks each in the 4th and 6th rounds and 1 pick in the 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 7th rounds. There are several teams that have fewer selections that may be looking to add depth and would be willing to trade with the Bucs this year for an extra selection. Most experts agree that this draft is short on “star” players and long on quality depth….some have said this draft may be one of the weakest in over a decade in round #1, but one of the deepest in rounds 2-4 in quite a while. I don’t think Tampa will have a problem if they want to move back up into the later half of round #1 to get someone they have their eye on!

  29. myeaglescantwin says: Apr 24, 2013 1:56 PM

    i think HTTR is just the nw way of identifying yourself as a HATER..

    people who talk that much junk are usually scared.

    The bucs are certainly a contender. They are making the playoffs. I’ll take 10/1 odds on that one.
    They needed secondary help and they went and got it.
    New Safeties + Revis. They move back up in rd1 for the press CB they are missing and this team is scary.
    Furthermore, what if they go out and nab someone like WR-Austin.. that’s a serious offense to contain.

    like i said, playoff bound.

  30. mobuccsfan says: Apr 24, 2013 1:58 PM

    Actually, Tampa doesn’t have a 7th round pick this year–yet. Unless they manage to trade Blount for one–as has been rumored. But I wouldn’t bet on it. So Tampa still has its 2nd, 3rd, two 4ths, a 5th and two 6th rounders–for 7 total picks left. Their biggest needs (IMO) are another solid corner (secondary was too awful not to address this and Revis is no guarantee at all, and even then, his age makes him really a short term answer if he does return to 75-100 percent form), DT, super DE/pass rushing specialist, a solid TE that has some speed, great hands and can block as well (they need a Tony G, a Rob Gronkowski kind of TE), OL depth at Guard and Tackle–in case injuries again, and I actually think a back up QB who could possibly even be groomed to be a serviceable starter-solid back up to Free (maybe push him to be better). I think if they come out with these players (and solid, pro-bowl type talent at most, if not all of those positions, then Tampa could make noise for a wild card next season and eventually build towards the playoffs each year thereafter). Again, JMO.

  31. mobuccsfan says: Apr 24, 2013 2:00 PM

    Not sold on Hunt…FYI. I think it wouldn’t work out and his age is already up there–kind of too raw etc from everything I’ve read. Eifert though or Short wouldn’t be bad choices. I do hope Tampa goes and gets that press corner and some DL help above everything else this draft.

  32. skns2thend says: Apr 24, 2013 2:07 PM

    Seems as if all the personnel shots are getting a lot of “thumbs down”¿? But why? I’ve been a Redskins’ fan all my life and if anyone knows personnel issues…it’s a SKINS fan. We’ve had personnel problems for 20 years (when Gibbs left the first time, thinking 93’or 94′). I have always liked the buccaneers t type of play. Though, as a die hard SKINS fan,I’m hoping we have the personnel to go with our phenomenal and super human players. Despite the unfair 36 million salary cap penalty. Buc fans….just face it. Unless someone comes in and shakes things up a bit…there will be a 20 year drought for the Tampa franchise.

    HTTR

  33. modhairken says: Apr 24, 2013 2:16 PM

    drew88:

    Dominik a genius? Vision since day 1? And you call me a clown? Brian Price was ill suited to this defense. He was PAC-10 soft. Just one of a number of dumb moves.

    What was the record under Allen-Gruden’s last 2 years? 9-7. And that was suffering through the lost picks. And since?

  34. bigginfragable says: Apr 24, 2013 2:24 PM

    This what i want to see from the draft for the Bucs.
    Rd 2 – Short/DT
    Rd 3 – Bank or Logan/CB
    Rd 3 – trade 4th & 6th – Kelce/TE – guy will be a beast of a TE.

  35. peepeetoucher says: Apr 24, 2013 3:04 PM

    All the Bucs fans, if Dominik is as good as you all are saying, then why is he on the hot seat? If he doesn’t win this year he’s gone. Its been reported more than once, thats why he had to get Revis to make last ditch effort n save his job. His record as GM is 24-40. Having 1 winning season out of 4 doesn’t bode well for your argument of being a good GM.

  36. tpa43 says: Apr 24, 2013 3:06 PM

    They play hard through victory formations.

  37. bigjoe2269 says: Apr 24, 2013 3:41 PM

    bucs have lots of cap room because they stink every year and never sign anyone

  38. deltaoracle says: Apr 24, 2013 3:44 PM

    There would probably be about 24 teams happy to oblige them, but they don’t have much ammunition to get a first. Unless they’re willing to give up pretty much all of their draft this year.

  39. winstonpark says: Apr 24, 2013 4:26 PM

    Levonte David is a perfect fit at Weakside LB, but Mason Foster should be moved from Middle LB to Strongside LB. There is a reason he isn’t calling the plays like a MLB should. Bucs need the QB of their defense, and I can see them moving up for a guy like Manti T’eo.

  40. stevecenders says: Apr 24, 2013 4:50 PM

    @alphaq2

    I’m not sure if this is the case any longer, but I do know that the salary cap floor was a complete joke several years ago. Basically you could add a near impossible incentive to a player’s contract and have it count against the cap that year.

    Say they add the following to Carl Nicks’ contract: Block ten punts and return them for TDs and you’ll earn an extra $5 million. This $5 million gets added to the cap and could put a team above the floor but they’re never actually going to pay the $5 million. I’m almost certain that Dominik did something like this when the Bucs had tons of cap space.

    It was a blatant loophole but not against the rules.

  41. peytonsneck18 says: Apr 24, 2013 4:51 PM

    Hunt isnt better than D.Jones from ucla, everybody thinks hunt will be the next jj watt, not gonna happen

  42. jbvikes says: Apr 24, 2013 5:01 PM

    Hey, the Purple just so happens to have the 23rd and 25th picks. Hmmmmm.

  43. jkaflagg says: Apr 24, 2013 5:57 PM

    Bucs only needed to move up a few spots last year to get to 31…..with only the 43rd pick this year, they’ll probably need to toss in a 3rd and/or multiple 4ths to make the same type of move this year…..

  44. mobuccsfan says: Apr 24, 2013 7:15 PM

    I think Dominic is on the hot seat this year for sure. I also don’t think Teo would be a good option either. If they trade into the first round again–and would most likely have to surrender a 2nd pick or even the first round pick next year to have a shot–it should be for one of the best remaining corners in the mid-20’s range or one of the top DE/DT or TEs left on the board at that point. If not, then it’s not worth it…IMO. People have to remember, that after the draft lots of people will get cut and the second round of free agency is still to happen, as well as un-signed free agents currently and undrafted free agents.

    It is a good possibility that they can at least find some decent DL and OL help after the draft–possibly even a RB to complement Martin if they decide to release Blount or can actually trade him–but doubtful. I think CB, DT/DE and TE must be addressed one way or another. I’m not sold on the idea of a QB to put behind Freeman entirely–just because if he tanks this year and the team doesn’t do well–much better QBs in next year’s draft and they can try and get the “franchise guy” again at that time.

  45. bucfaninil says: Apr 25, 2013 6:12 PM

    Don’t ever use a previous draft as an example of what should be accurate compensation in the current draft. Last year’s draft had WAY MORE talent at almost every position then this draft. So a trade last year to move up a few spots into the first WARRANTED a 3rd Round Pick. This year, that really isn’t much difference in 24 to 54 in value. Don’t use that idiotic Draft Value chart. It was a base model that probably lost real value 10-12 years ago. So trading up 10-15 spots in this years draft may actually be LESS than trading 4-5 spots last year. Consequently, you’d be a fool organization to trade ANY first round pick in next year’s draft unless you are moving up to number 15 from number 55. Even then, probably the trading down partner should have to give up their #15 and atleast a 4th Rounder this year to have the PRIVALEDGE of moving down to #55 and getting a second 2014 First Rounder.

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!