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Vikings trade with Patriots, take Cordarrelle Patterson

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The Vikings had plenty of picks and a need at wide receiver, both because of the Percy Harvin trade.

So they made a bold move, trading second-, third-, fourth- and seventh-round picks to the Patriots for the 29th pick, which they used on Tennessee wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson.

Patterson played one year of Division I football, but has big-play ability (16.9 yards per reception), and will get a chance to stretch the field for a Vikings team in great need of a deep threat.

The Vikings are now out of business until Saturday, but they need a chance to catch their breath after using three first-rounders, adding defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd and cornerback Xavier Rhodes earlier in the night.

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  1. melkipershero says: Apr 25, 2013 11:29 PM

    Uh. What happened to no leaking picks?

  2. robertocfg says: Apr 25, 2013 11:30 PM

    That’s some value for the Patriots, considering the strength of this draft is in the mid rounds. Great trade for them.

  3. melkipershero says: Apr 25, 2013 11:31 PM

    Anyway. Great first round by Min for not taking Teo alone.

  4. contra74 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:31 PM

    3 picks in the first round – WOW! Vikings owned today! Great picks Spielman!!!

  5. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Apr 25, 2013 11:32 PM

    ARe you kidding me? They traded 4 picks for this guy! HA HA HA HA HA Ha.

  6. ienjoysensi says: Apr 25, 2013 11:32 PM

    Whoa. Haul for the pats . A few good wrs left . And whoever gambles on the honey bager is gonna be rewarded . Lattimore could also be a gamble for the pats w one of these extra picks .

  7. filthymcnasty1 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:32 PM

    I think it’s a little too early to give up on Greg Jennings.

  8. blacknole08 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:33 PM

    Not a bad night for the Vikings.

    And you can’t say enough about Joe Andruzzi. He’s a class act.

  9. thegreatgabbert says: Apr 25, 2013 11:33 PM

    “Lissen’ up ho’s, theys a new Big Daddy in town!”.

  10. tecmobowl34 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:33 PM

    REACH. Four picks for this guy?

  11. acmepackers says: Apr 25, 2013 11:34 PM

    This guy looks athletic and dumb as hell. Both. Good luck with that

  12. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 25, 2013 11:34 PM

    What do you think of Rick Spielman now?!

  13. jokendave says: Apr 25, 2013 11:35 PM

    Simply Awesome!!!!!

  14. Logicalvoice says: Apr 25, 2013 11:36 PM

    Love the pick. But they gave up a lot to get him!!

  15. shaggytoodle says: Apr 25, 2013 11:36 PM

    It wouldn’t be the draft until the Vikings do something like this.

    They could have built some good depth. Maybe take a QB on the 2nd day. Get depth and talent on the second day.

    Why would you give up 4 picks for a guy you could have drafted earlier with the one.

    Happy draft day Minnesota.

  16. pastabelly says: Apr 25, 2013 11:36 PM

    Nobody really believed Belichick was going to use that pick.

  17. rtl1984 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:37 PM

    3 picks, probably 3 starters.

    Not bad, Spielman, not bad.

  18. wludford says: Apr 25, 2013 11:37 PM

    Wow. Vikings got what they needed at WR. Spielman didn’t stay home this draft- he went big. All we need is a LB and were done. Go get Urlacher if need be, and draft one later.

  19. 27xplayoffs says: Apr 25, 2013 11:38 PM

    Wow. Did not see that coming, seems like kind of a steep price to pay for a troubled WR…

  20. inyofaceagain says: Apr 25, 2013 11:38 PM

    Rick Speilman is the man! To have Shariff fall to the Vikes is great then he pulls a hard hitting starting CB AND a WR all in the 1st round?!?!
    What a boss! Vikings just added 3 studs!

  21. belgaron says: Apr 25, 2013 11:39 PM

    Welcome to the Seahawks PS!

  22. GenXJay says: Apr 25, 2013 11:39 PM

    that’s how it’s done, cheeseheads.
    Ted Thompson is in awe.

  23. shinedown37 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:39 PM

    The patriots and Belecheat screwed the Vikings.

  24. mjhutmkr says: Apr 25, 2013 11:40 PM

    YES! Great drafting by the Vikings!!!!

  25. kotapug says: Apr 25, 2013 11:40 PM

    Raw but big potential Great return man

  26. nzayir says: Apr 25, 2013 11:41 PM

    Never expected the Patriots to get four picks for their late 1st rounder. Man Belichick is always taking advantage of these desperate teams. Patterson has potential for sure but he’s as raw as a prospect gets and only produced against FCS squads like Georgia State.

    Having four picks on day 2 is bliss for Belichick, can’t wait to see what he has planned. The last three drafts for the Patriots have been fantastic, Belichick’s going to keep up his strong drafting this year.

  27. hashtagfaith says: Apr 25, 2013 11:41 PM

    Three big needs filled. Glad they passed on Te’o. Go sign Urlacher two a two-year deal and draft an ILB next year. #faith

  28. thesaint257 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:42 PM

    lol….Belichick robbed the Vikings!

  29. mattyjimmy says: Apr 25, 2013 11:43 PM

    Perfect. MLB is an antiquated position of need. Versitile corners that can play the nickel d are a wonderful fit for this team.

  30. bryguy39 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:43 PM

    WOW, WHAT A DRAFT FOR THE VIKES!!!! Way To go RICKY!!! Love the picks!!!!

  31. defeetrexryan says: Apr 25, 2013 11:44 PM

    The Vikings, dare I say, may be quite the force to be reckoned with if Ponder can just be average.

  32. alecanthony says: Apr 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    Vikings are going to the Super Bowl this year, best draft by far from any NFL team

  33. subzero00 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    Duh, winning!

  34. bigdogsolec says: Apr 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    WOW , HECK OF A 1ST ROUND

  35. theytukrjobs says: Apr 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    And he wore 84 in college…

  36. tigerlilac says: Apr 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    Value, value,value.

  37. lnfinite says: Apr 25, 2013 11:47 PM

    Great job GM Rick!

  38. hack0059 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:47 PM

    trade raped

  39. drubber75 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:49 PM

    Vikes did well. And selfishly as a Pars fan its a win win.

  40. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 25, 2013 11:49 PM

    They must have a huge opinion on Patterson. They could have given up just a fourth to move up in the second round and gotten someone like Robert Woods. Movie night tomorrow, I guess.

  41. briscocountyjr says: Apr 25, 2013 11:52 PM

    Nice to hand the patsies a whole draft for nothing. Good job MN, makes it look like the patsie cheat in the offseason too!

  42. taintedsaints2009 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:54 PM

    They need so many areas but they dump their entire second day for some receiver who isn’t proven? Bad pick, spielman. And bad trade. You can get receiver value anytime as long as your qb is good. Would have been nice to add one of these stud safeties, or ogletree.

  43. peytonsneck18 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:54 PM

    He’ll be good, unpolished right now

  44. chuckforeman44 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:55 PM

    Well…with any draft, you don’t know until they hit the field….but Im not spun out about it. I think we gave up a pick (7th) more than we should’ve, but to get three first rounders….you have to like that. Im kind of glad we didn’t take Tao, Im just not sold on him…. I would’ve liked to see us get the honey badger, but definitely addressed our major needs and at least I don’t have to watch the draft tomorrow…lol. SKOL VIKES!!!!!

  45. anarchopurplism says: Apr 25, 2013 11:56 PM

    In Speilman we trust……

    I am surprised the 9ers didnt trade more

  46. themackstrong says: Apr 25, 2013 11:58 PM

    I was like wow the Vikings are having a great draft. Than I read the Billy B. and the Patriots fleeced them on draft day for 4 picks for the 29th pick? Viking fans can spin it any way…AFC teams know what just happened.

  47. gbpackersfan12 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:58 PM

    Vikings did very well in the first round, but don’t you have to believe if you picked WRs in rounds 2,3,4 and 7 you might have found one or two better players than this guy. Deep draft and that is a lot of picks.

  48. filthymcnasty1 says: Apr 25, 2013 11:59 PM

    Hey, Troy Williamson was green too. And that worked out ok.

  49. hawkstradamus says: Apr 26, 2013 12:04 AM

    Huge price with all those picks. They must have wanted Patterson as bad as Percy wanted out of town.

  50. dontbetoy says: Apr 26, 2013 12:08 AM

    People are forgetting the Vikes have multiple picks in the 7th and 4th round so really we gave up a second and third round pick.

  51. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 12:10 AM

    They had a gift fall into their lap with Floyd. I can’t hate on the Rhodes pick.

    I don’t agree with giving 4 picks away for this dude.

    If he is REALLY that good and you need him that bad, draft him early.

    They got impatient. They could have added LBs DBs, a QB or a WR on the 2nd day.

    They squandered a chance to get some good players for the future.

  52. khmer379 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:10 AM

    They might gave alot for him but ill tell you what with that size and speed it just make the vikings thst more dangerouis this koming year with jenning alongside of him patterson will be a Pro Bowler in a few years heck he might win roy well at least he should since we gave the pats all that pick

  53. gdeli says: Apr 26, 2013 12:13 AM

    I was so happy for him it was like seeing my own son out there tonight .wow

  54. jeter325 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:14 AM

    Vikes losing a 3,4 and a 7…the #2 for the #1 is a wash………..you wouldn’t trade a 3,4 and a 7 for the potential Patterson has?…..It’s a great move.

  55. theskolbandit says: Apr 26, 2013 12:14 AM

    YES brilliant Rick!!!! We got BALLERS. Watch out Pack were coming strong this year

  56. wgh80 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:15 AM

    In reality it was 3 picks. Gained a 1, lost 2,3,4,7. In other words Patterson for 3,4,7. I’ll take that chance.

  57. inyofaceagain says: Apr 26, 2013 12:17 AM

    gbpackersfan12 says:

    Vikings did very well in the first round, but don’t you have to believe if you picked WRs in rounds 2,3,4 and 7 you might have found one or two better players than this guy. Deep draft and that is a lot of picks.

    —-

    There is not enough roster spots or $ to sign four different wide recievers with four different picks. C’mon now, common sense

  58. wludford says: Apr 26, 2013 12:17 AM

    You can take this however you want, but Cordarrelle Patterson is pretty much a hybrid between Percy Harvin and Randy Moss.

    If we get 4 years of that kind of production out of him, like we did with Moss and Harvin, it’ll be a good pick.

    If we would’ve taken him at #25, essentially it would have been like trading Harvin for a younger Harvin/Moss, only with another 5 years of rookie salary instead of $13m/year and two extra picks.

  59. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 12:18 AM

    alecanthony says: Apr 25, 2013 11:45 PM

    Vikings are going to the Super Bowl this year, best draft by far from any NFL team
    ______________

    To bad there is still over 200 picks to go and when its all said in done the Vikings will have missed a chance to address a lot of spots and now they will be sitting on their hands tomorrow.

  60. tedmurph says: Apr 26, 2013 12:18 AM

    Pats didn’t make out that great. The going rate for a deal like this would be Minny’s 2nd this yr and their 1rst next yr, which normally would be better. Since the Pats were short picks this yr, they had to take the Vikes 3rd, 4th and 7th this yr(in addition to the 2nd), instead of next yrs 1rst, which works out ok on the value chart. I think there was a run on players the Pats liked 6-7 pks before the 29th came up, esp Denver taking SWilliams. Not happy now, but a good day tomorrow(Woods WR,Taylor CB) would help. Kudos to the Vikes; if you only had a QB .

  61. matthewcarlson1 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:18 AM

    Funny how all the haters (filthymcnasty1) are fans of other teams. Vikings fans gotta love this! We had a need at WR, CB, MLB, DT and we filled 3 of those spots with quality starters. How many other teams are going to find 3 players of this caliber with all 7 of their picks? My bet is not many. Best draft ever.

  62. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 26, 2013 12:21 AM

    shaggytoodle says:Apr 25, 2013 11:36 PM

    It wouldn’t be the draft until the Vikings do something like this.

    They could have built some good depth. Maybe take a QB on the 2nd day. Get depth and talent on the second day.

    Why would you give up 4 picks for a guy you could have drafted earlier with the one.

    Happy draft day Minnesota.
    _______

    Jealous much? They didn’t draft him earlier because they were too busy drafting two other studs. It’s hard to find starters in the third, fourth, or seventh round, so I don’t mind taking a chance and giving up those picks to get a top WR.

  63. wludford says: Apr 26, 2013 12:21 AM

    Looking at the pick compensation the Vikings paid the Patriots, essentially the Vikings gave their 3rd and 4th round picks to move up almost a full round with their late 2nd round pick. Looking at the draft chart, they didn’t overpay.

    Vikings have 3 7th round picks, each worth about 3 points. Who cares.

    Bottomline, if Patterson proves to be the deep threat he has the potential to be, and has shown in college, we got him cheap.

  64. spyder9669 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:21 AM

    what you haters are forgetting is that we got an extra 7th this year and a 3rd next year from Seattle….so to give away some free picks wasn’t that hard of a decision to make if you’re getting 3 immediate impact starters when its all said and done. What they just did is awesome.

  65. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 26, 2013 12:22 AM

    Patterson looks a lot like Percy Harvin except bigger, worse hair, and less likely to throw a barbell at his coach.

  66. tigerlilac says: Apr 26, 2013 12:24 AM

    The Jets were reported to want to trade down but stayed put. Expect the Pats to flip a 2nd round pick on Friday for a #1 next year and to trade up to get someone in the 2nd or 3rd round that they see as both meeting a need and having value.

  67. jazz11001 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:25 AM

    This is a great job by Rick. So many people complaining about the picks given to the Pats and why? If you have 3 people targeted on your board and you get them all then who cares.

    There are 11 teams who dont have the cap space to sign their drafts so there will be a crop of players having to be cut. I am guessing that he takes next years 3rd (percy trade from Seahawks) and a 5th and 7th to get into the 2nd again for a linebacker.

    In Gardy we trust In Rick we believe…SKOL!!

  68. jebdamone says: Apr 26, 2013 12:26 AM

    im not a fan of this first round. the vikings picked three guys with potential high reward but also risk. and wtf, we gave up 2,3,4 and seven for pick #29? i guess if even 2 of these 3 guys turns into a high quality player, it is worth it but boy we really threw our cards on the table here. and hey guys, audie cole appears to be your starting MLB right now. better get on the phone and dial up karlos dansby or urlacher. i have a lot of faith in spielman and the boys but this seems a little reckless.

  69. bobby2478 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:26 AM

    It was aggressive, but Patterson is 6’2″ and 216 lbs, ran a 4.4 forty, and consistently catches difficult catches in traffic, and the guy runs like a RB. He’s unproven and green, but he has potential to be a beast.

    They didn’t pick until the end of rounds 2 and 3, so in addition to these picks they threw in their 4th rounder (and they still have a 4th rounder left). The 7th was a throw away, and they still have 2 more 7th rounders left (they gave up their lowest 7).

    So I’m not going to get too bent out of shape that they gave up a late 2, late 3, and late 4 for the guy when they still have a 4 left, and they would have likely had to give up their 2 and 3 to jump up to early in the 2nd round to grab a WR anyway.

    Aggressive, but could be a good pick. And Pats got good value, should be a win win.

  70. vikingsgohard says: Apr 26, 2013 12:29 AM

    I don’t know who’s worst here the fans that say we’re going to the Super Bowl or the haters of a pretty dam good 1st day draft!!… As M.Mayock stated this guys the second most explosive play in this draft behind T.Austin the top four WRs would have been gone by 52 day2 so we may as well traded it we got 3 starters an got better DAY1!!!… Ps people please stop with the SB crap!!

  71. patriots420 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:29 AM

    After throwing my remote in anger for trading the pick (was holding my breath for an hour after realizing Patterson was still on the board) I’m starting to think this could actually benefit the Pats more than the Vikes both short and long term.

    We can now take 2 good wr’s like we did with gronk/nandez and rid/Vereen. A lot of good receivers like Allen/Woods/Sted Bailey/Hunter still left. Plus I’m pretty sure we will take a shot on the Honey Badger, those red flags look pretty silly when seeing highlights of him, plus Hernandez had a similar pot “problem” and he is as big a part as the outreach program as anyone on the team now. Lattimore could also be there for the taking, we can stash him to properly heal from the knee.

    Without going on much further Patterson is a 60/40 shot at being elite in my view, but out of all those options we have a better shot at getting an elite talent 75/25 shot. Plus we know what happened to the last big name the pats had who had problems with the play book cough cough Ochocinco.

  72. onbucky96 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:31 AM

    Herschal Walker trade 2.0, if this were fantasy football the rest of the league would be yelling “Trade Rape”.

  73. squared80 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:33 AM

    The Vikings basically gave up a 3rd rounder and a 4th rounder they got from Detroit. You people talking about ‘giving away the farm’ are NOT elite football minds. You win games in the NFL by drafting playmakers, and Vikings gave up very little to do that, deep draft or not. They now have THREE blue chip rookies who are going to start DAY ONE. Get a clue.

  74. matthewcarlson1 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:40 AM

    filthymcnasty1 says:
    Apr 25, 2013 11:59 PM
    Hey, Troy Williamson was green too. And that worked out ok.
    ——————————————
    I couldn’t name the Packers 2005 draft pick even if it was for a million dollars.. Crawl off the vikes D and drag yourself home.. embarrassing.

  75. eatitfanboy says: Apr 26, 2013 12:44 AM

    4 total picks (the one they used and the three they traded) for a guy who has as many weaknesses as strengths.

    They make the Harvin trade and get extra picks and then squander a slew of picks to get a guy who will most likely never be as good as him.

    Boy, I hope those other two first rounders work out.

  76. kmossg says: Apr 26, 2013 12:50 AM

    Love the move by the vikings. Essentially had needs at ILB, WR, CB, and DT and were able to fill 3 of those with first round talent. It is more about quantity then quality for them at this point. They essentially give up a 3 and 4 and a 7, the 2nd is a wash because they get the extra 1st.

  77. cranespy says: Apr 26, 2013 12:55 AM

    One trade sums up the sustained excellence and competitive relevance of the Patriot organization. I was beginning to think they may be forced to swap Mallet for picks and then this……GENIUS.

  78. PowerMad says: Apr 26, 2013 1:08 AM

    Actually, the Vikings gave up deceptively little. With the trade, Spielman:

    1.) Elevated his second round pick.
    2.) Gave up one of three 7th rounders (which are really nothing more than UFAs.
    3.) Threw in the extra 4th rounder from one of their deals.

    So the Vikings got to move up and draft one of the top WRs in the class for what essentially amounts to a 3rd round pick. You can pick them apart for throwing in the 4th rounder, but I’ll take a surefire starter over a question mark any day.

    Also, I think we might now know who the GM was that thought this was the worst draft in decades, and he’s using what firepower he has to get the best talent available. Just a thought.

  79. tokyosandblaster says: Apr 26, 2013 1:13 AM

    Well, Now that they have all these *weapons*, Ponder can two hop it to them all the time!

    In two years, they’ll be able to play for the twins at short stop!

  80. briang123 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:17 AM

    Roge Goodell tried to order a lobster bisque from Patterson until he realized the guy was the draftee.

  81. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 1:18 AM

    One would think the Vikings wanted more than depth at WR then Patterson, Jennings, I heard all last year how Simpson wasn’t very good.

    When is the last time a WR core made it through a whole season healthy?

    With injuries to guys like Rice when he was there, Harvin, even Jennings was banged up last year. You think they would want a little more depth at WR.

  82. davikes says: Apr 26, 2013 1:25 AM

    This is a whole lot better than some Vikes drafts I remember. Demitrius Underwood? Troy Williamson? This draft is like Christmas in April. Got to think that having tomorrow off will give the Vikes time to call Dansby.

  83. botchedextrapoint says: Apr 26, 2013 1:26 AM

    Why do GM’s keep insisting on giving Belicheck picks? When will they ever learn.

  84. fluffy19 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:29 AM

    I think the Vikes slightly over paid to move up, but he did it because they had targeted him on a different level and didn’t expect him to be there. We had 11 picks going into the draft and realistically weren’t gonna keep all 11. We will still (barring other trades) have 8 draft picks – 3 #1′s (yeah, baby), 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 7th. Time will tell if Cordarelle is worth it, but the scuttlebutt was that Spielman was in a press conference after the 25th pick and when the Texans went with Hopkins, he cut the interview and sprinted to the war room. Obviously, they have an opinion on this guy. Like all draft day debates, time will tell. Skol.

  85. ad2k13 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:36 AM

    The Vikings traded 4 picks for Patterson because of the stockpile of picks they had coming in to the draft. The Vikings STILL have 5 picks left to play with this year. Rick Spielman and the Vikes have undeniably OWNED this year’s draft so far!!! >>SKOL<<

  86. mountaindont says: Apr 26, 2013 1:54 AM

    You trade a 2nd,3rd,4th and a 7th for 1 guy who lasted until the 29th pick ? This is just another reason why the Vikings are the most inept team is sports history. Every team makes draft mistakes but below are examples of Vikings draft ineptness

    **The Herschel Walker trade in which Vikings gave Dallas three 1st rounders, three 2nd rounders, plus a 3rd and a 6th rounder in addition to 5 players. Walker lasts only 3 seasons in Minnesota.
    ** In 1999 the Vikings select Michigan State Defensive end Dimitrius Underwood with the 29th overall pick. Underwood spent one day in camp and walked out. It was eventually shown Underwood suffered from mental Illness. The ineptness of the Vikings comes into play because his coaches at Michigan State warned NFL scouts that he was not mentally stable enough to play in the NFL.
    **2003 In yet another move of ineptness the Vikings are on the board in the first round of the 2003 draft with the 7th overall pick. The Vikings missed the deadline to make the pick. Meanwhile, the two teams immediately behind Minnesota on the board Jacksonville and Carolina rushed their cards to the podium in New York and made their picks before the Vikings.
    * 2010 Vikings trade a 3rd round draft pick to Patriots for WR Randy Moss. Moss is cut 4 games later

  87. ummdoyouevenwatchfootball says: Apr 26, 2013 2:05 AM

    I am so sick of people not having any sort of common sense, Minnesota basically gave up 3 picks to move up an entire round since their 2nd was basically a 3rd round pick. So they swapped picks and NE got 3 late picks in return, its a nice trade for NE… however it wasn’t a bad trade for Minnesota either. Minnesota got 3 great players, I am glad my team doesn’t have to face them twice a year for years to come because for some reason they actually learned how to build through the draft.

  88. btjorgensen says: Apr 26, 2013 2:10 AM

    All those ridiculing the Vikings for making this trade should take a long hard look at this draft. The writing is on the wall. Of all the picks that were traded tonight 0 (zero) of them were for the 2014 draft.

    GMs are unloading their picks in this year’s draft because there is a huge lack of talent in the mid to late rounds. No better year than this year to move on the guy you want.

    Don’t fall for the “depth” stance… that’s a coy way of saying the draft is full of special teamers.

    The Vikings were a 10 win team last year and they added 3 starters. The Top DT on everyone’s big board, the 2nd rated WR and one of the top 3 CBs.

    Only people saying this was a dumb trade are Patriot and Packer fans.

  89. greatminnesotasportsmind says: Apr 26, 2013 2:11 AM

    I’m not seeing how the Vikings got robbed here. They traded a late 2nd round pick for a 1st round pick. They had 3 7th round picks as well. So basically they gave up a 3rd and 4th and left the draft with 3 #1 picks.

    You gotta give Spielman credit for laying out the smoke screen the Vikings had interest in Te’o. They passed on him 3 times, and Spielman probably had more connections to him than every other team considering Harrison Smith, John Sullivan, and Kyle Rudolph all played with at Notre Dame.

    Then he lays out another smoke screen that its a very deep draft. I’ve heard from others, the draft isn’t really that deep this year. To package picks and get back into the first round for a 3rd pick is great.

  90. mountaindont says: Apr 26, 2013 2:28 AM

    Love the Vikings fans with all the fake praise for Spielman. The Vikings fans have to fool themselves into thinking the Pats trade was smart. All of them high fiving each other when in the back of their minds they are thinking “what stupid deal we made”

  91. allday38 says: Apr 26, 2013 3:01 AM

    Rhodes I like but, Floyd goes from top 5 pick all the way to the twenties, and nobody wonders why? I’ll tell you why, he isn’t that good. Put on the film, he doesn’t give his all and wasn’t dominate at Florida. Tape don’t lie people. As for Patterson, I know two things, gave up a ton to get the second best WR from the Vols (Hunter is better), and, he’ll probably be a Seahawk 5 seasons from now.

  92. ad2k13 says: Apr 26, 2013 3:25 AM

    Anyone hating on Patterson merely because of his Wonderlic results needs to be reminded that AJ Green scored a TEN on that test.

  93. boobschannel says: Apr 26, 2013 4:29 AM

    “The Vikings are now out of business until Saturday”

    hate to be a debby downer, but the vikes have a 3rd rounder that they didn’t trade so…. yeah, you’re wrong on that bit.

  94. beerndrums says: Apr 26, 2013 5:43 AM

    I can’t believe you gave the patsies 4 picks….unbelievable

  95. vikingbill1 says: Apr 26, 2013 7:07 AM

    Minny is in close to the same situation as SF. They had almost too many picks. They cant pay them all. Im liking the idea we have 3 potential starters…

  96. purpblooded says: Apr 26, 2013 7:20 AM

    Filth, Jennings will show him how to play the position….go troll the 49ers threads……Packas goin’ down!

  97. norseman69 says: Apr 26, 2013 7:39 AM

    great pic this is why… the 4th & 7 pic they gave up was extra pics from detroit and seattle so really they gave up a 2nd and 3rd for him AWESOME… remember they got a 3rd from seattle for next year so in essence they flipped a 2nd for a 1st!!!

  98. gbmickey says: Apr 26, 2013 8:25 AM

    4 picks for an end of the round player who most pundits state is a project? Not to mention a potential headcase. This move has me reminded of another brilliant trade year ago, Hershal Walker. You will soon find out Viking fans teams are successful by accumulating draft picks and building depth rather than a couple splashy picks.

  99. vikesfan23 says: Apr 26, 2013 8:44 AM

    We ended up with 3 picks…higher valued picks then a 2nd, 3rd and 4th, plus we have an additional 4. We did fine besides those are later in the round picks anyway. SKOL VIKES

  100. snoop24 says: Apr 26, 2013 8:56 AM

    OK, so they gave up a few picks to get Patterson.

    Look at it this way.

    1st Rd: Floyd
    2nd Rd: Rhodes
    3rd Rd: Patterson
    4th Rd: TBD
    5th Rd: TBD
    6th Rd: TBD
    7th RD: TBD

    I think they may have 1 more 7th as well.

    When you look at it that way it looks pretty good. Where it hurts some is you have to pay the first 3 1st round money.

    Billy still has to hit on those extra picks as well and even though everybody thinks he is so smart. Maybe 1 of them will pan out.

    Kudos Vikes I think it is brilliant!

  101. thejuddstir says: Apr 26, 2013 9:17 AM

    The Vikings have excelled at grabbing players who slide down the draft boards (Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson, Percy Harvin ) and it looks like they may have did it again this year.

  102. vikesallday says: Apr 26, 2013 9:32 AM

    When the vikings are the winners of the draft in this year’s draft is when. THen we’re gonna but the beatings on the whole NfL’s!

  103. mjk4503 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:35 AM

    Awesome first round for the Vikes! Let’s not forget they still have multiple picks in the middle rounds. Now they should go get Urlacher for a solid ILB and instant leadership presence in a young defensive unit!

  104. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Apr 26, 2013 9:54 AM

    Oh I see, those were just “bonus picks” they sent to NE – I didn’t realize denny was back in town.

    And, I hope you still have TJack’s old playbook laying around, Cordarrelle is going to need it.

  105. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 10:15 AM

    They are going to regret not giving themselves a chance to add more depth at WR. They did get 1st round talent, but when was the last time there WR group didn’t miss a game all season.

    It happens to all the teams. It will happen this year. Jennings is coming off an injury. They should have been more patient.

  106. prideof10000lakes says: Apr 26, 2013 10:29 AM

    “Oh I see, those were just “bonus picks” they sent to NE – I didn’t realize denny was back in town.

    And, I hope you still have TJack’s old playbook laying around, Cordarrelle is going to need it.”

    ___________________________

    How do you feel about the Vikes stealing the best WR the pack have had in the last decade, maybe ever? They were a whole lot different of a team with out him.

    Find it funny that both the lions and pack have been drafting DT and DE just to stop AP the past few years to no success, or better know as the MVP?!

    WE COMMMMINNN!!!!!!!!

  107. otis52gsh says: Apr 26, 2013 10:37 AM

    Still the joke of the north conta, still the joke.

  108. whatjusthapped says: Apr 26, 2013 10:50 AM

    Vikings got jobbed, maybe not on the level of the Hershel Walker trade but still a ton of picks for essentially a project.

    more to the point, what good is a WR when Ponder can’t get him the ball?

  109. dcnblue says: Apr 26, 2013 10:55 AM

    Don’t worry Vikings fans. Patterson will probably be great. BB is overated . He should have taken a first round athlete–consider Ras-I, Dowling, Darius Butler, etc. quite a few flops from trade downs, horrendous record for DBs and Wrs !!!!!!

  110. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 11:07 AM

    How do you feel about the Vikes stealing the best WR the pack have had in the last decade, maybe ever? They were a whole lot different of a team with out him.

    _______

    Jennings the best Packer receiver EVER, come on dude. He has less than 1000 yards of receiving a season.

    The guy is very effective, but with him turning 30 around the corner and a over 9$ mil a season, that’s coming off an injury.

    The other reason Jennings has been good is, the Packers have more than more versatile receivers than the Vikings. Ones that can line up in anywhere slot or outside. The Vikings don’t have that luxury yet.

  111. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 11:10 AM

    To bad there is still over 200 picks to go and when its all said in done the Vikings will have missed a chance to address a lot of spots and now they will be sitting on their hands tomorrow.

    Really? Other than guard and MLB what are their other glaring needs? They did go 10-6 and make the playoffs last year.

  112. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 11:23 AM

    ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 11:10 AM

    To bad there is still over 200 picks to go and when its all said in done the Vikings will have missed a chance to address a lot of spots and now they will be sitting on their hands tomorrow.

    Really? Other than guard and MLB what are their other glaring needs? They did go 10-6 and make the playoffs last year.
    _________

    QB

  113. trun0rth says: Apr 26, 2013 11:26 AM

    Here’s a ‘last word’ type of post for you. Full disclosure – Vikes fan trying to be impartial.

    Quick Facts – The trade value shows the NE pick at 796 points vs. the Vikes pick package at 743.

    Last 5 Guys from pick #29:
    2012 Harrison Smith Vikings
    2011 Gabe Carimi Bears
    2010 Kyle Wilson Jets
    2009 Hakeem Nicks Giants
    2008 Kentwan Ballmer 49ers

    Last 5 Guys at #23 in Round 2:
    2012 Peter Konz Falcons
    2011 Rodney Hudson Chiefs
    2010 Sean Lee Cowboys
    2009 William Moore Falcons
    2008 Jason Jones Titans

    Last 5 Guys at #23 in Round 3:
    2012 Sean Spence Steelers
    2011 Drake Nevis Colts
    2010 Eric Decker Broncos
    2009 Patrick Turner Dolphins
    2008 Tom Zbikowski Ravens

    My thoughts:
    – For those that think the Vikes gave up ‘way too much’ in their bundle of picks, read the names above. If you know even the position of half of those players picked at #23 in 2nd and 3rd round then maybe you have a case
    – I think 4 out of 5 years above I trade the #2 and #3 to get the #1 player.
    – Vikes desperately needed to upgrade talent to accurately assess if Ponder is ‘the guy’
    – Belichik & Co. are better than average at finding the Eric Deckers in the crowd above
    – Good deal for both teams. Nobody got ripped off, and the move fits the M.O. for both teams

  114. prideof10000lakes says: Apr 26, 2013 11:42 AM

    “Jennings the best Packer receiver EVER, come on dude. He has less than 1000 yards of receiving a season.”

    ____

    He actually has (3) 1000 yard season (1292, 1265, and 1,113).

    He has 8 less tds then their beloved Donald Driver, and did it in half the time 7 years vs. 14 years.

    I’ll give you Sterling Sharpe as a better WR, but thats splitting hairs. Thats why I said MAYBE EVER….

    DUDE

  115. spartan822 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:11 PM

    The pieces are in place….

  116. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 12:47 PM

    @pride

    You are correct on 1000 yard seasons.

    I thought I had stated he doesn’t average 1000 yrds a season.

    He hasn’t had 1000 yard season since the Packers won the Superbowl.

    Which is also the last time he had double digit TDs. In a season.

    That was also while he had the benefit of playing with Favre and Rodgers.

  117. theytukrjobs says: Apr 26, 2013 1:05 PM

    According to the draft value chart, the trade was very equal and reasonable. However, if you believe that “this draft is extra deep in the middle” talk then you could argue the Pats came out ahead.

    But this really is a win win for both teams. Pats only had 5 picks this draft and this trade gets them up to a normal level. The Vikings had 11 picks which is too many for a 10-6 team that is only short a MLB and CB from last season (if you buy into the Harvin/Jennings being a neutral swap).

    But at the end of the day, the Vikings selected 3 1st rounders, each of whom was top 20 on most boards. And they still have a 4th, 5th, 6th, and 2 7th round picks.

    Needless to say, the Vikings will have added a LOT of help. Instead of picking in rounds 1, 2, and 3 they went ahead and picked round 1, 1, 1.

    The one big remaining hole is middle linebacker, but strengthening the middle of their defensive line will help a marginal middle backer do his job. So I’d argue getting the steal of the draft in Floyd might minimize the lack of talent in the middle backer spot.

    All and all, monster 1st round. Hit on a couple mid rounders and this team could be very tough to beat.

  118. painsyndicate says: Apr 26, 2013 1:26 PM

    Spielman > Newsome

    Mid-range value after the first round = take three players in the first round.

    Add Karlos Dansby through free agency.

    Done.

  119. filthymcnasty1 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    prideof10000lakes says: Apr 26, 2013 10:29 AM

    How do you feel about the Vikes stealing the best WR the pack have had in the last decade, maybe ever?

    *************************************************

    Did the Vikings sign Don Hutson posthumously?

    Damn, Viking fans are some seriously stoopid people.

  120. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 1:46 PM

    As you display to all your lack of reading comprehension skills. He said last decade, MAYBE ever.

  121. jbvikes says: Apr 26, 2013 2:04 PM

    According to the Jimmy Johnson point value chart that the Pats use, the Vikes came out ahead by a small margin. We shored up 3 of 4 big needs. Because the Packers can do nothing but pass we’ll be in nickel and dime pkgs more than not, so the middle LB is not as big a factor. Pass rush and cb play is big and we got it addressed! Patterson is a Percy-type without the fragility and the “head” case.

  122. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 2:05 PM

    Also 4 inches taller and 10 lbs heavier!

  123. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 2:26 PM

    @ Pride
    ______

    I do know that Jennings will be starting the downslope of his career. With an injury that will cause him to lose a step You keep talking about couldas and all this. He isn’t though.

    He isn’t in the passing offense, he was solid on the field for 7 years. He is on a run heavy team, that will continue to do so.

    While Viking fans are all excited about 3 first round “talents”. Those guys are 2nd round picks in an average NFL draft, were there are skill players actually worth taking. Why do you think so many lineman were taken?

    Remember the last time you had 2 first round picks heading into a draft, and you were all excited about that.

    You got Troy Williamson and Erasmus James.

    They flopped so lets wait and see how these “shiny new toys” look in a few years.

  124. filthymcnasty1 says: Apr 26, 2013 2:44 PM

    I give it until the end of September when the drunken draft day euphoria has worn off, and the Viking fans are back to crying over Percy Harvin’s box score and cursing the incompetent Rick Spielman.

  125. wludford says: Apr 26, 2013 2:45 PM

    Patterson was one of only two big-play potential WRs in this draft. He was rated a 90. He’s the only top WR that is also a big-play kick- and punt-returner.

    The Vikings and Pats traded based on the draft pick point chart, within a few points.

    The trade worked for the Vikings because they need the bona-fide, prototypical build, height, speed, #1, deep-threat WR in Patterson, and a kick and punt-returner too. They got it all.

    With 11 picks in this draft, the Vikings didn’t need to stockpile special teamers, depth, and hopefully can contribute or become a starters someday types. They already have those guys. So it only made sense to give up some quantity to get higher quality and big-play talent at a key skill position and need.

    So effectively they gave a late 3rd, early 4th, and a 7th to do the deal. Those picks are all past the sweet spot for talent in this year’s draft, and are long-shots for starting jobs.

    Patriots wanted more picks- they only had, what, 5 picks? So they can plug some more mid-rounders into holes and see if they hold. Good for them.

    Could work out to be a win-win. If Patterson works out, will also be nice to have him an extra year on his rookie deal too.

  126. theskolbandit says: Apr 26, 2013 3:16 PM

    @Packer Nation!!
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    KEEP THE HATE COMING STRONG I LIKE IT
    well done Rick you’ve LITERALLY pissed off a whole fanbase
    With your superb job of evaluation and sleepless hours. We are thankful fans to have u as our GM
    wait for it……………… SKOL BI?&@$!!!!!!!!!
    BANDIT

  127. mediasloppy says: Apr 26, 2013 3:42 PM

    robertocfg says:

    Apr 25, 2013 11:30 PM
    That’s some value for the Patriots, considering the strength of this draft is in the mid rounds. Great trade for them.
    —————–
    That is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve read in awhile. Basically all those franchise OL/DL and others in the 1st round are no better than what you’ll find in round 3, 4 and 5? Wow! It’s all about team needs and teams in the first round full-filled their need…

  128. deltaoracle says: Apr 26, 2013 4:11 PM

    Stretch the field?
    So there’s a new rule allowing two forward passes on the same play?

  129. brewdogg says: Apr 26, 2013 4:16 PM

    Once again, Packer fans go shooting off their mouths while conveniently forgetting that there is a very recent parallel on their own beloved team….

    4 years ago, the Packers gave NE a 2nd and two 3rds, for a total value difference in excess of 160 points (the approximate value of a late 3rd) in favor of NE, to move up to #26 and draft a player who could not beat out Kaluka Maiava for a LB spot at USC and only played as an undersized pass-rushing end.

    And BTW…comparing Hutson to Jennings is like comparing Raymond Berry to Marvin Harrison. Get real. And while I’m on the subject, isn’t it interesting that so many long-time Packers choose to sign with the Vikings? Maybe Packer players have a different opinion of the Vikings franchise, fans, and geographical location than Packer fans do.

  130. mountaindont says: Apr 26, 2013 4:46 PM

    After thinking about it who cares who the Vikings drafted and whether they did well or not. The Vikings franchise has had a major history of shooting themselves in the foot. How many times have we seen the Vikings blow it for themselves on and off the field ? The Vikings fans know this is true. Nothing is going to change

  131. shaggytoodle says: Apr 26, 2013 4:47 PM

    brewdogg says: Apr 26, 2013 4:16 PM

    Once again, Packer fans go shooting off their mouths while conveniently forgetting that there is a very recent parallel on their own beloved team….

    4 years ago, the Packers gave NE a 2nd and two 3rds, for a total value difference in excess of 160 points (the approximate value of a late 3rd) in favor of NE, to move up to #26 and draft a player who could not beat out Kaluka Maiava for a LB spot at USC and only played as an undersized pass-rushing end.
    ________

    The draft talent in the 09 class compared to this one is very different. If there are 6 pro bowlers from this class 3 years from now you can say I was completely wrong on it.

    The other MAJOR difference is the Packers didn’t pass on Matthews twice in the first round and then need a 3rd first rounder by parting with 4 to get him.

    The Packers were also switching from the 4-3 to a 3-4 so TT made that trade to make the transition easier.

    If Patterson is anywhere near as impactful as Matthews you guys got a great pick. I don’t see it happening though.

  132. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 5:05 PM

    Didn’t the Packers trade up to draft a punter once? LMAO! Seriously? BJ Sander?

  133. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 5:09 PM

    Yes they DID! Green Bay traded UP in the third round of the 2004 draft to pick B.J. Sander. He played for Green Bay ONE year!

  134. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 5:11 PM

    The Vikings DIDN’T pass on Patterson twice, they picked better overall players on their board. I think the Vikes planned on Rhodes and Patterson all along until Floyd dropped.

  135. mountaindont says: Apr 26, 2013 5:52 PM

    The Vikings passed on Aaron Rodgers twice to draft wide receiver Troy Williamson at No. 7 and again at No. 18 picking defensive end Erasmus James. Neither lived up to their hype and even more noteworthy both aren’t on a NFL roster. However all turned out well for the Vikings because now they have QB Christian Ponder BA HA HA HA HA

  136. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 5:58 PM

    And the Packers passed on Chad Greenway for AJ HAWK. BA HA HA HA!

    The Packers passed on Randy Moss for Vonnie Holiday. BA HA HA HA

    How about that Jamal Reynolds pick over Steve Hutchinson or Reggie Wayne? LOL!

    What is your point Mountain?

  137. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 26, 2013 6:00 PM

    Let alone the fact the Vikings had a QB in his fifth year who just had an MVP season.

  138. whatjusthapped says: Apr 26, 2013 6:24 PM

    And while I’m on the subject, isn’t it interesting that so many long-time Packers choose to sign with the Vikings?

    Money does that to a person. Plus, the Packers got the best years out of them before they let them move on to the Vikings. Its like a guy that kicks his wife to the curb because she no longer has it, the next guy picks up the first guy’s left overs and says, Isn’t she smart, she’s with me now!

    Is it any wonder the Viking fans are mocked NFL wide?

  139. GenXJay says: Apr 26, 2013 6:54 PM

    justwhathapped,
    WTF are trying to say?
    Crazy turkey gobble, gobble gobble turkey?
    Anyway, if a Dome Dog was wiggled in your face; I’d bet you would eat it. Skol.

  140. purpblooded says: Apr 26, 2013 7:17 PM

    What a fantastic draft (last year),this year looks even beter! If you think Spielman is good, then you got to believe that Ponder is good too. Packer fans keep saying we don’t have a QB. Who should we believe? Them or Rick……..Patterson isn’t RANDY MOSS, but on YOUTUBE highlight films, he looks like him. Kick some PACKER A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!

  141. mountaindont says: Apr 26, 2013 8:23 PM

    KTM, My point is that I`m showing you the ineptness of the Vikings whether it`s on field or off. Vikings have made some of the stupidest draft decisions in recent memory.
    **The Herschel Walker trade in which Vikings gave Dallas three 1st rounders, three 2nd rounders, plus a 3rd and a 6th rounder in addition to 5 players. Walker lasts only 3 seasons in Minnesota.
    ** In 1999 the Vikings select Michigan State Defensive end Dimitrius Underwood .The ineptness of the Vikings comes into play because his coaches at Michigan State warned NFL scouts that he was not mentally stable enough to play in the NFL.
    **2003 In yet another move of ineptness the Vikings let the time expire when they had the 7th pick allowing the 8th and 9 teams to pick in front of them.
    **2013 Give up 4 draft picks to pick a guy who is considered a project and lasted to the 29th pick. Are the Vikings that loaded that they give up 4 high draft picks for a project ?

  142. wiseguy12 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:56 PM

    Free agency and the NFL draft are like a box of chocolates. You just never know what you’re gonna get when the season starts. Hated losing Harvin and Winfield but the additions of Cassel and Jennings helped ease the pain some. Don’t know if the 3 first rounders will be busts or stars. On paper the picks all look like upgrades from the current roster. If the 2012 acquisitions step up it could mean a solid team for the 2013 season. Ponder’s performance will be the big question mark. Cassel may need to be the guy.
    The depth of the draft may provide the opportunity to plug some of the other needs.I still like Minnesota to consider Urlacher as an option if all else fails.

  143. monkeyboymotors says: Apr 26, 2013 10:33 PM

    Tony Mandarich enough said .

  144. dwhitehurst says: Apr 27, 2013 2:04 AM

    @ monkeyboymotors says: Apr 26, 2013, 10:33

    Tony Mandarich enough said .
    ——————-

    I’ll see your Tony Mandarich with a Herschel Walker trade and raise you an empty trophy case. NOW enough has truly been said. :)

  145. ktm300xcwe says: Apr 27, 2013 9:35 AM

    Herschel Walker? Does the name John Hadl mean anything to you? LOL. At least the Vikings broke the bank on the NFL’s premier rusher in his prime to get to a Super Bowl. You idiot Packers sold out the 70s and early 80s for a washed up 34 year old QB. 1974 YOUR brilliant franchise gave up 2 first round picks, 2 second round picks, and a third round pick for him. The team was in NO way ready to compete in the NFC at that time with the Vikings, Cowboys, Rams, and Redskins, let alone get to a Super Bowl.

  146. shaggytoodle says: Apr 27, 2013 12:34 PM

    The Vikings are hoping this works out better than last time they traded with the Patriots for a WR.

  147. fwippel says: Apr 29, 2013 3:26 PM

    Y’all griping about the Herschel Walker trade need to realize something: Viking owner (at that time) Mike Lynn engineered that trade as an excuse to avoid paying top dollar for high draft picks over the next several years.

    Walker could have been had for far less, but Lynn used that trade as an excuse to cut costs long-term, and disguised it as a trade to “get to a Super Bowl”. He did what was in his own best interest, not the team’s best interest. Yes, this is the same Mike Lynn who still pockets a percentage of proceeds from Viking home games (as long as they play in the metrodome).

  148. RedRuffensor says: May 1, 2013 9:15 AM

    I just have to laugh at all the Packers fans slamming this pick. They’re just expressing sour grapes and whistling past the graveyard, if you ask me. And, BTW, that disgusting smell is about a million Packers fans soiling themselves when they had nightmares of another Vikings receiver wearing #84 making their DBs look like inept clowns.

  149. pondersucks07 says: May 2, 2013 2:10 AM

    wonderlic score a big 10 looks like Patterson going to have a hard time understanding let alone reading the playbook. came out because his grades wouldn’t let him be eligible for senior yr.

  150. Canned Heat says: May 2, 2013 1:26 PM

    brewdogg says: Apr 26, 2013 4:16 PM

    And while I’m on the subject, isn’t it interesting that so many long-time Packers choose to sign with the Vikings? Maybe Packer players have a different opinion of the Vikings franchise, fans, and geographical location than Packer fans do.
    ________________________________

    I see someone has tried to clue you in, so you could quit embarrassing yourself, but let me clarify even further.

    NOT ONE other team offered the DongTexter a contract after he was done with the Jets (Favre for you challenged individuals)…not one, other than you fools. And then he suckered your team out of $20 MIL per. Was it worth it? Maybe, almost made the big dance until Brett did what Brett does in big games to finish his last 5 years in the league.

    NOT ONE other team offered Jennings a contract after he was done with the Packers…not one, other than you fools. Why? Because he is injury prone and on a down slide. Yet, you guys will once again OVERPAY dearly for the services of any washed up Packer thinking it somehow makes up for your lack of hardware. Just like when they went after Driver, who said “no thanks.”

    If grabbing any living, breathing former Packer vilifies it for most of you….you need to set your standards a little higher. But stay at it, because the track record historically for your team is only rivaled in suckitude by the Buffalo Bills. Congrats.

    And…..I’ve been to the Twin Cities dozens of times and have family just North of town. Great city, but let’s leave it at that. Other than more people, it’s a bigger version of Grand Forks for Christ’s sake. Quit acting like you people live in Miami or LA.

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