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Bills blew smoke for months, wanted E.J. Manuel all along

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It remains to be seen whether the Buffalo Bills are finally building a good team again after a dozen years out of the playoffs. But we do know one thing: The Bills are good at blowing smoke around draft time.

Heading into the draft, we had heard reports that the Bills wanted Syracuse’s Ryan Nassib as their franchise quarterback of the future, or maybe they wanted West Virginia’s Geno Smith, and then came late word that they wanted USC’s Matt Barkley. And there was also talk that the highest-rated player on their board was wide receiver Tavon Austin.

But when Thursday night’s first round came around, the Bills traded down with the Rams (a team that really did want Austin) and then used the 16th overall pick to draft a quarterback few thought they wanted, Florida State’s E.J. Manuel. Today on Mike and Mike in the Morning, Bills coach Doug Marrone said that for all the talk about all the other players the Bills wanted, they actually knew all along that Manuel was the guy they wanted.

“Right from the beginning — it happened a while ago,” Marrone said when asked when the Bills put Manuel atop their quarterback wish list. “It was very easy, it was very easy for all of us, we were all in it together and we were very excited about it.”

The Bills wisely masked that excitement until they turned in their card on Thursday night.

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114 Responses to “Bills blew smoke for months, wanted E.J. Manuel all along”
  1. 69finfan says: Apr 26, 2013 9:40 AM

    Of course the Bills could be blowing smoke now so that EJ Manuel really does feel like he was the guy they wanted when it was really somebody else.

  2. gf2711 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:41 AM

    They 100% got the player they wanted. People can laugh and call it a reach, but none of it will matter if he pans out how the Bills view him.

  3. floratiotime says: Apr 26, 2013 9:42 AM

    They can blow all the smoke they want, but they were the only team that had Manuel this high. They weren’t bidding against anyone. No one was moving up to beat them to him. It may very well be a good pick, but it wasn’t any sort of clever coup.

  4. xpensivewinos says: Apr 26, 2013 9:43 AM

    ………..as if we needed yet another reason to prove why mock drafts are a ridiculous waste of time.

  5. flash1283 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:44 AM

    Oh, those sneaky Bills.

  6. fitzmagic1212 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:44 AM

    right pick or not they fooled everyone!! and screwed the jets by letting the rams get austin

  7. overkil2 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:44 AM

    Should be interesting to see what happens in Buffalo. I’m tired of having a crappy division. I long for the old days where the Fins. Pats and Bills battled it out and crapped on the Jets.. Looks like this may be coming back!!!

  8. cledawg says: Apr 26, 2013 9:45 AM

    Bills blew something else. They could have had this guy in the second rd

  9. talkingproud says: Apr 26, 2013 9:45 AM

    I like this pick. Can’t help but wonder if he would have still been there for the Bills in the second round.

    Glad they didn’t go with Nassib. Manuel will be a great pro in Buffalo!

  10. donterrelli says: Apr 26, 2013 9:46 AM

    Ryan Nassib got hoodwinked by his own coach.

  11. amanistumor says: Apr 26, 2013 9:46 AM

    They blew smoke for months, and they’ll just blow for 3 more years.

    Plus he could have been had with the 1st pick in the 2nd round by trading with the Jags who for some reason feel the need to stick with Gabbert.

  12. Grinds My Gear says: Apr 26, 2013 9:46 AM

    Awesome after the fact claim.

  13. tmac4454 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:47 AM

    EJ congrats getting drafted to the next level. You was my qb for the Noles so I have to give you some love. I hope that you get the development that you need to become one of the best at this level. Being from Va and playing your collegiate ball at FSU, it is going to be cold in Buffalo. Its between you and Kolb. You played behind C Ponder before taking the helm at FSU, so study hard and be consistent. Good Luck EJ with the Bills.

  14. eatitfanboy says: Apr 26, 2013 9:50 AM

    Genius maneuvering by the Bills. Instead of overdrafting Manuel by 2 full rounds, they managed to move back and overdraft him by only 1 1/2 rounds.

    Brilliant.

  15. gbar22 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:50 AM

    Sorry but I don’t see franchise qb with this guy. Perhaps decent qb like chad Pennington was for a few years or brad Johnson was with the bucs but franchise no.

  16. 1phd says: Apr 26, 2013 9:51 AM

    Like they really needed to? They could have been in love with him and let everyone know and no one would have stopped them from taking him when they did.

  17. tommyboy42609 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:51 AM

    Bills think they are genius but they don’t understand that blowing a smoke screen for a player nobody else would find value for until the 3rd round doesn’t make any sense.

  18. slickster35 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:51 AM

    If you’re going to reach, at least reach for the best at the position. Double fail here.

  19. jaydm84 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:52 AM

    This actually makes me happy to be a dolphins fan.

  20. rockthered1286 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:53 AM

    Fact is they could’ve waited until round 2, gotten Manuel there, and added a D-linemen in the middle of the 1st. Sound reasoning? Absolutely. Nobody else had interest in a QB after 16 (or enough to waste a 1st on one).

  21. jbaxt says: Apr 26, 2013 9:53 AM

    Usually you hear teams saying they weren’t sure who to take… Wait, no you don’t.

    And whoever takes Geno Smith will claim they wanted him in the 1st round but…

    C’mon, it’s common sense to say they wanted the player they got.

  22. nobby821 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:54 AM

    Look behind you Bills!

    No its not Walker…

    It’s 16 teams that weren’t gonna take a QB, especially not one from FSU.

    Fail.

  23. ronin36 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:55 AM

    The one point nobody has made yet…

    What does this all mean for Nassib?
    How far will he now fall because of this?

    If your old college coach demonstrates infront of the entire NFL, that he doesn’t believe in you.. why should any other team?

    How far will Nassib fall?

  24. icdogg says: Apr 26, 2013 9:56 AM

    I do think they reached a bit for him, but he would have been gone in the early 30s otherwise, so it wasn’t an outrageous reach. And if he pans out, no one will care that it was a reach.

  25. wagons716 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:57 AM

    I dont care what anyone says, Manuel would of went by the end of the first round, a lot of teams liked him esp Philly. He’s a great mobile QB with a good build cannon of an arm, awesome leader but just needs some coaching like all rookies do. I feel he’s going to be a good player and ill support whoever can get the job done here. I just happened to like him the whole time so I truely believe he will be our Franchise QB. But its going to take 3 years to figure out weather we were wrong or if we new something no one else new. GO BILLS!!!

  26. stillers6 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:59 AM

    Getting greedy if I am a Bills fan, but they probably could have traded again, further back and gotten him. But you have to give the Bills credit at the end of the day, they got the guy they wanted and got more picks.

  27. steelpenbucs87 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:59 AM

    In terms of “blowing smoke” does that include to Nassib? I know this is a business and everything but I bet it would be really disappointing if you were Nassib and you thought you had a chance to go with your old coach to a nearby team in the first round…..

    I think both picks would have been and are stupid, but just thinking about the kid.

  28. thejuddstir says: Apr 26, 2013 10:00 AM

    A huge reach for a QB that could’ve been had for sure in the 2nd rd. and the way this draft is shaping up, possibly in the 3rd rd. I thought it was the biggest reach and worst pick of any team in the 1st rd. There’s a reason why some teams are perennial bottom feeders. Even the Jets picks were bad, Milner has had more operations (5) and to take him where they did was crazy. An NFL player has 2 injuries and they call him “injury prone”, and then comes Milner.

  29. stillers6 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:00 AM

    Also, could have done without Schefter ruining the surprise BTW!

  30. joeloj says: Apr 26, 2013 10:00 AM

    The Bills moved back once but didn’t want to risk doing it again. How do you know someone else would not have taken him? It is easy to criticize and say they could have waitied – and then possibly miss out on the QB they really wanted. I think they played this smart, and picked the QB with the most upside in this draft.

  31. phadedwun says: Apr 26, 2013 10:03 AM

    If they think EJ Manuel is their franchise guy – then regardless of whether they “could have” got him in the 2nd round, getting him in the 1st is a better move.

    Why?

    Because now they can sign him to a 5yr contract as opposed to a 4.

    And everyone thought EJ Manuel was crazy for attending the draft. He knew all along too.

  32. weepingjebus says: Apr 26, 2013 10:03 AM

    Every NFL analyst thrown by the pick: “Uh, the Bills are masters of deception, yes, that’s it, three dimensional chess of the highest order, this!”

  33. teambringitstrong says: Apr 26, 2013 10:03 AM

    All you seasoned cyber GMs scoffing at the Bills picking Manuel will be very upset when they dominate the next few years. I said it before, Jimbo Fisher showcased EJ in the Orange Bowl vs NIU and it paid off.
    He may not be a sexy pick for you cowardly bigots but he will be a solid QB in this league.

  34. stealthjunk says: Apr 26, 2013 10:06 AM

    This would all be impressive except the joke is really on the Bills because Manuel probably would have been around until their Round 2 pick.

  35. travishenryskid says: Apr 26, 2013 10:06 AM

    At the Bills draft luncheon, Nix was asked about the QBs and gushed over a few. When he was asked about Manuel, he ripped him apart. Funny to think back to now.

  36. officialgame says: Apr 26, 2013 10:06 AM

    Then they should have traded down for more picks. Nobody, not one team had Manuel rated this high.

  37. helinhater says: Apr 26, 2013 10:06 AM

    @Rockthered – The Bills werent in the market for a DLineman. That wasn’t a position of need.

    QB, WR, TE, G, and LB.

    Like GF2711 said – if it pans out, who cares.

    It was obvious all along that the Bills wanted a QB, which QB was the question. At this point the Bills should grab another QB in the 4th and hope for the best.

  38. crownofthehelmet says: Apr 26, 2013 10:08 AM

    Mathieu would like to be a Bill, hearing about the month-long smoke blowing.

  39. followme2boston says: Apr 26, 2013 10:09 AM

    They picked up a second rounder and got their guy. If he pans out it is a coup. If not, it is JP Losman all over again.

  40. seatownballers says: Apr 26, 2013 10:11 AM

    I like the pick, but the bills still need receivers to throw to

  41. catquick says: Apr 26, 2013 10:11 AM

    All you ” geniuses” who know more than NFL coaches and scouts are calling ” fail” when the Bills could have gotten Manuel in the 2nd round have the benefit of hindsight. How could Buffalo possibly know that pick 17 wouldn’t be the one guy they wanted? No one knew they wanted him, so how can any of you? I’ve heard him compared favorably to McNabb and Newton. Your favorite team could have done better too. The Dolphins blew it with a vastly undersized DE ( Aaron Maybin anyone?) who will be manhandled at this level, crushed by running backs. They gave away the store for him, Buffalo got value. You know nothing, even less. Buffalo scores big here.

  42. somekat says: Apr 26, 2013 10:11 AM

    Should be interesting to see what happens in Buffalo. I’m tired of having a crappy division. I long for the old days where the Fins. Pats and Bills battled it out and crapped on the Jets.. Looks like this may be coming back!!!

    _______________________________

    When did this ever happen? The Pats have been great the last 12-13 years. But the rest of the division has been trash in that span. Before that, the Pats were a perennial joke. I can’t ever remember a time the Bills, Pats and Dolphins were even close to being relevant at the same time

  43. 4touchdowns1game says: Apr 26, 2013 10:13 AM

    And Buffalo stays being Buffalo

  44. packerbackernj says: Apr 26, 2013 10:13 AM

    Many people are saying it’s a reach, but it was a need. They may have had to pull the trigger there because no one wanted to trade up to their spot. To me, it was a 2 pony race all along of who needed a QB the most. Jacksonville and buffalo. Now say you’re buffalo, and you’re sold Manuel is -the guy- in the draft. Where they were they were probably trying to trade a bit lower in the first, but couldn’t. Knowing jacksonville has an extremely high second and could very easily trade up back into the first and possibly take the position they desperately need, buffalo was left with nothing to do but select him. Now that buffalo has their QB jacksonville loses their biggest competition and has no need to trade into the first.

  45. doclolly says: Apr 26, 2013 10:17 AM

    Good job Bills take a guy in the top 20 who still is a work in progress. Now have him deal with the pressure of being rushed on the field to justify taking him so early. You should have waited until today take him in either the 2nd or 3rd he still would have been there

  46. clarencewhorley says: Apr 26, 2013 10:20 AM

    Manuel would have been drafted late in round 1, I think Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan had him drafted in all of their Friday drafts. I think he has the most upside of any QB in the draft. For anyone who still goes to ESPN instead of NFL Radio on Sirius it’s time to switch. You will instantly become a better fan and have greater knowledge of the game.

  47. fievel03 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:22 AM

    “Really?!?!?” – R. Fitzpatrick

  48. zippymcfarlane says: Apr 26, 2013 10:22 AM

    Um… to all of the people saying “of course they’re going to say he was their guy when they actually wanted somebody else…”

    you do realize that there was not a single QB off the board when the Bills picked… they could’ve had any of the QBs they wanted…. that right there is evidence that they got the guy they wanted…. duh.

  49. flaccotoboldin says: Apr 26, 2013 10:22 AM

    I see a lot of hateration, but this will be ALL about what he does in the NFL, just like for any player.

    Ravens traded back, then traded back up, to get Flacco. I’m sure at the time plenty of Ravens fans were ehhhhh about it, and plenty of other teams hated, and Falcons fans an analyst RAVED about Matt Ryan.

    How’d that work out?

    I remember once upon a time Phillip Rivers was the truth, and actually kicked a QB called Drew Brees to the curb. How’d that work out?

    Proof will be in the pudding.

  50. overkil2 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:24 AM

    somekat says:Apr 26, 2013 10:11 AM

    Should be interesting to see what happens in Buffalo. I’m tired of having a crappy division. I long for the old days where the Fins. Pats and Bills battled it out and crapped on the Jets.. Looks like this may be coming back!!!

    _______________________________

    When did this ever happen? The Pats have been great the last 12-13 years. But the rest of the division has been trash in that span. Before that, the Pats were a perennial joke. I can’t ever remember a time the Bills, Pats and Dolphins were even close to being relevant at the same time
    ———————-
    I am probaby a bit older than you, but going back to the Shula, Johnson and beginning of Waanstadt years.

  51. seabreezes51 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:25 AM

    Kevin Kolb sends his regards

  52. mobuccsfan says: Apr 26, 2013 10:26 AM

    I think he will be alright. I think Kolb enters the season as the starter and then they see where they are at–of course with Kolbs injury history–he probably is in by Week 4 or 5 at the latest.

    As far as Nassib, didn’t ever think he would be the pick. I will throw this out there now. Nassib doesn’t fall too much farther. He goes to Jacksonville, Cleveland or Arizona in the second round or third max. I get a feeling Jags take him in second; Barkley goes to Arizona and Cleveland drafts Geno Smith now since Smith is there–or another QB. I don’t think the new coach/GM are on board with Weeden (poor Browns fans). I think he needs one to two more seasons to show what he can and can’t do. Heck, already spent a first round pick on him–should give him a chance. But I could see this playing out this way. I also think there is a chance Mallet could get traded anyways today to someone like Cleveland and then Patriots pick up a QB with one of their additional second round picks or in the 3-5 round spot. Player like Bray, Wilson, Glennon, or Dysart. Just something to watch out for and pure speculation.

  53. mobuccsfan says: Apr 26, 2013 10:27 AM

    Doh! I forgot to mention–Eagles still could be in play for Smith as well. Something to watch as well.

  54. smcgaels1997 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:28 AM

    Yet more proof that the organization is crap. If EJ Manual was your guy at #16..you’ve got a bad draft board.

  55. thehouseofho says: Apr 26, 2013 10:28 AM

    So what if they could have gotten Manuel in the second round. There’s one reason that trumps all the “he would’ve been available in the second round” talk. First rounders have to sign a five-year contract as opposed to a four-year contract.

    The Bills have Kolb signed for two years. They know it’s going to take Manuel–and the other QBs in this draft–some time to get acclimated to the NFL game. Let’s say it’s the duration of Kolb’s two-year contract. As a first rounder, Manuel will still be on his rookie contract for three more years after that. As a second rounder, his second contract comes a year earlier.

    The Bills played this smartly. Sure, they could have traded down further in the first round, but who’s to say they didn’t try? It’s possible no one wanted to trade with them to move up to 16.

  56. buffbill99 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:28 AM

    Everyone thinks he would have been available for the Bills 2nd round pick, but I’m not so sure. Chip Kelly and the Eagles may have taken him with their 2nd. They definitely want a big strong athletic QB for that system and he wouldn’t necessarily have to play this year for them.

  57. ninetysixer says: Apr 26, 2013 10:29 AM

    funny how many posters on here were inside NFL team’s war rooms and know exactly where each team had a guy rated.

  58. dxh02 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:30 AM

    The only “Manuel” jersey he’ll have in four years will be bright yellow and come with a hard hat.

  59. i, flounder says: Apr 26, 2013 10:31 AM

    my favorite part of this pick is i can now write fan fiction about kevin kolb getting a black snake train run on him by tarvaris jackson, and ej manuel.

  60. EJ says: Apr 26, 2013 10:34 AM

    69finfan says: Apr 26, 2013 9:40 AM

    Of course the Bills could be blowing smoke now so that EJ Manuel really does feel like he was the guy they wanted when it was really somebody else.

    That doesn’t make any sense, since he was the first QB taken. If the Bills would have wanted someone else they would have taken them, but they didn’t.

    I am starting to feel that this pick was meant to be, I’ve had this screen name for two years now, It matches my teams Franchise QB EJ Manuel.

  61. questforthesixthnotthelast2013 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:35 AM

    Yeah, good move, the niners probably would made a move on him with 34 pick.
    Well they didn’t know, but the vikes could of taken him, but allas they forego the rest of the draft for a receiver that may not be good or may be good like Calvin Johnson.
    But o well, thanks vikes for not being a threat against the niners for the rest of the year.

  62. rcali says: Apr 26, 2013 10:35 AM

    Ahhh, the Bills. The rest of the AFC appreciates your player evaluations.

  63. BED MAN OKC says: Apr 26, 2013 10:35 AM

    Drat & Curses, you got us all again – you sneakey Bills ! Have the been over .500 in the past 20 years?

  64. kwickett85 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:37 AM

    Sorry to all the nay sayers but Manuel was a projected mid 1st to mid 2nd round pick. The last time he was a projected 3rd rounder was during the season, before the bowl games and everything. Then his stock went up. If he was projected in the 1st/2nd why would the NFL invite him to the 1st day of the draft???

    It tells you something about Nassib if Marrone took another QB over a guy he coached.

    Manuel is 6’5 240…still runs a 4.5 and has a cannon arm. Combine that with CJ Spiller and this team could be deadly on offense. Time to draft a WR.

  65. The Prophet says: Apr 26, 2013 10:37 AM

    The only flaw in their “genius” is no one was going to take EJ Manuel in the 1st round anyway so they ended up fooling all 32 GM’s.

  66. kwickett85 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:40 AM

    Sorry to all the nay sayers but Manuel was a projected mid 1st to mid 2nd round pick. The last time he was a projected 3rd rounder was during the season, before the bowl games and everything. Then his stock went up. If he was projected in the 3rd why would the NFL invite him to the 1st day of the draft???

    It tells you something about Nassib if Marrone took another QB over a guy he coached.

    Manuel is 6’5 240…still runs a 4.5 and has a cannon arm. Combine that with CJ Spiller and this team could be deadly on offense. Time to draft a WR.

  67. normaneinstein7 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:41 AM

    How do some of you guys know EJ would’ve been available in the 2nd round for the Bills? There was a lot of chatter that the Eagles wanted him. Do you really think the Bills should’ve gambled on potentially losing a guy they wanted by waiting too long and hoping a team like the Eagles passes on him? QBs are a premium and it’s not out of the norm for QBs to go much higher than expected. The Bills wanted EJ. They didn’t want Geno Smith and Matt Barkley. QB is the #1 need in Buffalo. They felt EJ was the best man for the job. I hope it works out for them. Their fanbase deserves it.

  68. mikelitoris1 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:44 AM

    … and E.J. Losman will be blowing games for months.

  69. demolition510 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:50 AM

    Why come clean now? Overplayed your hand for future drafts

  70. bookofelisha says: Apr 26, 2013 10:51 AM

    awww look at those sneaky buffablow bills. blowing smoke for months about a player who would of been there in the 2nd or 3rd round smh..

    either he pans out and bills are geniuses OR that entire draft room will never get a scouting job again

  71. allnflfan says: Apr 26, 2013 10:52 AM

    A lot of these naysayers seem to be forgetting that Buffalo also got another second round pick out of this deal. That is HUGE! They can go WR and TE or OL and, with EJM, they’ll have a core of offensive players for the next 10 years. The second thing that a few have mentioned in the 5-year contract situation. Last point is that there is no player between #16 and their next pick that would/will have as much impact for the Bills than EJM will. In 5 years time, people will look back at this draft and consider Manuel one of the biggest draft steals ever.

  72. cunninghampeetemcnabbvick says: Apr 26, 2013 10:55 AM

    It may have been a smokescreen and they got the guy they wanted all along but the problem is they over valued him, so really the only team they outsmarted was themselves.

  73. buddysguys says: Apr 26, 2013 10:55 AM

    @ 69finfan says:

    if they wanted someone else why didn’t they just draft him? they had their pick of QBs…..

  74. newjerseygiants says: Apr 26, 2013 10:56 AM

    Not a Bills fan, but I have a feeling this guy is going to be good. Peyton Manning good? No. More like Donovan McNabb good.

  75. footballfan80 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:59 AM

    I think all you need to know about the competency of the Bills front office is highlighted in the story. Forget the actual player drafted. The front office is ecstatic they employed a strategy a dumb first grader could use. They think they are so clever saying all along they wanted all these other players and took a different player. Well dumbo, if you keep saying in the media that you want certain players if becomes pretty obvious to every other team in the league you dont want those players at all. The bills front office is acting like they were first people in the history of the universe to employ reverse pyschology “Look we said one thing and did the opposite.” Geniuses at work!

  76. buddysguys says: Apr 26, 2013 10:59 AM

    I love all the people that say they reached for EJ and say that they could have got him in the 2nd rd. I was unaware how many people get invited into teams war rooms and see their big board…based on this articles feedback it looks like 30 to 40 idiots i mean fans were in there and have all the knowledge of where people are ranked for each team.

    Hope i get invited next year…..

  77. footballfan80 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:01 AM

    overkil2:

    The Jets have not been trash over the last 12-13 years and I think everyone knows that. Trash over the last 2 years years, last 12-13 years not at all. 2 AFC championship games, and 4 other playoff appearances in that span makes them one of the more successful teams in the league over that span.

  78. sfm073 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:02 AM

    Get the player you want, who cares if the so called experts thing it’s a reach. As a fan all I ask my team to do is stick to their draft board and take who they want.

  79. buffalomafia says: Apr 26, 2013 11:04 AM

    Get a WR & TE next!

  80. CKL says: Apr 26, 2013 11:06 AM

    I remember a few years back I was watching Sports Science and saw a little known smaller school QB who knocked my socks off in his segment. His best drill was the one where he had to throw off balance while two guys were in his face. He made about 90% of the throws accurately which was a record for Qbs they had tested. We all know tests don’t always equal success but the kid had a lot of talent, smarts, a good work ethic and was a good teammate. I thought he might turn out really well and he was one of my favorite QBs in the draft. EJ Manuel came into Sports Science this year and broke that QB’s record in that drill, 9 accurate throws to 8. Manuel is also all those things that other QB is that I listed above. That other QB? Colin Kaepernick. Will Manuel have CK’s success? We don’t know. But that is who he reminds me of.

  81. green41563 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:11 AM

    kwickett85 says:
    Apr 26, 2013 10:37 AM
    Sorry to all the nay sayers but Manuel was a projected mid 1st to mid 2nd round pick.
    __________________________________

    Who had him as a first-round pick? Not Kiper, McShay, or Mayock.

  82. realfootballfan says: Apr 26, 2013 11:12 AM

    I think most of us here realized as much since they would have been overdrafting the Syracuse kid from themselves. No one else wants him that high, no matter how many times the talking heads say so.

    That being said, Manuel at 16 is crazy, too. He’s every bit the underachiever Barkley was in college, clueless HC in Fisher (like Kiffin) or not.

  83. heyguru1969 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:15 AM

    The headline had me at “Bills blew…”

  84. granadafan says: Apr 26, 2013 11:17 AM

    Why don’t you just admit you were used by the Bills? You and other so-called draft “experts” were bragging about your “inside sources” or were just copying ESPN’s talking heads, yet you were used like a $20 hooker.

  85. src3084 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:23 AM

    I’m not a Bills fan so my favorite part of this is seeing all the supposed experts proven wrong with their Nassib prediction. Marrone isn’t in college anymore. Just because he coached him in college, doesn’t mean he has to be his guy at the pro level.

  86. 2ruefan says: Apr 26, 2013 11:33 AM

    EJ Manual = Tarvaris Jackson Version II

  87. southsidesteve86 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:35 AM

    Oh yeah the Bills really fooled everybody…..if that were the case the NFL wouldn’t have bothered inviting Manuel to the draft as nobody else was going to take him in the first round.

    Typical Buffalo draft….this is why they’re a perennial 10 loss team.

  88. mogogo1 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:37 AM

    No clue if they picked the right guy or not, but at least they traded down rather than using the 8th pick reaching for somebody, like so many “experts” thought they were going to do.

  89. masinick says: Apr 26, 2013 11:38 AM

    I believe that the 2002 season was the last time the AFC East had real parity. Three of the four teams (Dolphins, Jets, Patriots) were 9-7 that year. I believe that the Jets went to the playoffs. The Bills were a respectable 8-8 that season.

    The year Tom Brady was injured, Matt Cassell took the Patriots to an 11-5 record, but the Jets, again, had an identical record and went to the playoffs.

    Other than that, since 2001 it has been all Patriots in the division; Jets and Dolphins have each made one or two wild card appearances; other than that, it has been a lopsided division.

    Hard to say exactly how things will turn out in any given season; injuries and individual player performance affects a lot of things. Based on how it looks at this moment, barring great trades and draft picks, the Patriots still look like the team to beat. The Dolphins look, at the moment anyway, as if they are the team in closest pursuit; of course, ANYTHING could change.

  90. tomcous says: Apr 26, 2013 11:49 AM

    The Bills could not have gotten Manuel in the 2nd round! There are several QB needy teams that pick before pick #41 and there were several other teams ready to trade back out of the end of the 1st round.

    Manuel may not be the first QB of this class to start, but he has the highest ceiling … he needs to be groomed, but you don’t win Super Bowls with college QB’s that are at their peek or close to it before they are drafted.

    The Bills have the most important part of their draft in place and added picks in the process.

  91. adamagedbillsfan says: Apr 26, 2013 12:00 PM

    Was the pick a reach? Yes. Would he have been there in the 2nd round? yes…maybe even the 3rd round. I would have rather they traded down again, stockpile the picks and then grab him in round 2. No one would have said that was a stupid move but, as a Buffalo fan, I see this as a good move. As much as I’m not a huge fan of Kolb’s body of work, a move like this is why the Bills got him in the first place. He can start for now and when he starts playing terrible or gets hurt, this kid can step in. He has the athleticism to make moves behind Buffalo’s so-so offensive line. Plus he has Spiller to hand off to(BTW Spiller is on his way up. Tremendously talented, vastly underused player) It can’t get any worse for Buffalo, it’s already been terrible for 12 years. I hope this pick pans out. Good luck EJ.

  92. stealthjunk says: Apr 26, 2013 12:18 PM

    So basically, the Bills are thumping their chests for shocking the world by overreaching for Manuel at 16. Yes, no one saw it coming — but the reason isn’t because they’re so brilliant and sneaky — it’s because you can’t predict the mindset of idiots who don’t know what they’re doing.

  93. dprouse says: Apr 26, 2013 12:19 PM

    The only people the Bills outsmarted were themselves. This is a huge reach – given how close the QBs were together, you can guarantee that the Bills could have gotten one of them later, and taken a higher value player in round 1. (It’s not like they didn’t have other needs.) This is how bad teams stay bad, by mismanaging their draft like this.

  94. clarencewhorley says: Apr 26, 2013 12:22 PM

    green41563 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:11 AM

    kwickett85 says:
    Apr 26, 2013 10:37 AM
    Sorry to all the nay sayers but Manuel was a projected mid 1st to mid 2nd round pick.
    __________________________________

    Who had him as a first-round pick? Not Kiper, McShay, or Mayock.

    _____________________________________

    Hey Green41563

    ESPN sucks and Mayock isn’t much better. Tim and Pat on Moving the Chains had him going in the first in most if not all of their mock drafts.

    People need to get with the program and stop listening to ESPN for draft news and start listening to NFL radio. Much better access, better analysts and the great Gil Brandt who said in February who the number 1 pick would be (and got it right).

  95. m3dman3 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:39 PM

    People would have been making fun of the team that took Tom Brady in the first round. But the Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell picks were praised. The fact of the matter is EJ could be a bust, could be a first ballot hall of famer, could be an adequate QB. None of you know so don’t try and be a draft expert, those don’t exist.

  96. musicman495 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:52 PM

    Draft Speak 101: Every team got the player they wanted. My personal feeling is that this guy will bust.

  97. j0esixpack says: Apr 26, 2013 12:54 PM

    Not everyone is giving the Bills a draft grade of “F” for this pick.

    Some apparently have gone one step further, giving them a “G”

  98. jamiebuf12 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:01 PM

    green41563 says:
    Apr 26, 2013 11:11 AM
    kwickett85 says:
    Apr 26, 2013 10:37 AM
    Sorry to all the nay sayers but Manuel was a projected mid 1st to mid 2nd round pick.
    __________________________________

    Who had him as a first-round pick? Not Kiper, McShay, or Mayock.

    and when was the last time kipper,mcshay or mayock drafted a football player for real???
    theses clowns went nuts when the dolphins didn’t pick who they thought they should at 3 either or the jets picks…………..the only time these guys are right is when the players are signed before the actual draft :-p

  99. j0esixpack says: Apr 26, 2013 1:02 PM

    tomcous says: The Bills could not have gotten Manuel in the 2nd round! There are several QB needy teams that pick before pick #41 and there were several other teams ready to trade back out of the end of the 1st round.

    ——————-

    If they’d traded back they’d have a later first round pick they could have grabbed him – and they’d gain additional picks to address other needs

    They probably could have traded back one more time and had enough ammunition to move higher in the 2nd round – as its doubtful any other team would have taken him before the other QBs.

    So by taking Manuel unnecessarily early they’re going to have to pay him more, plus they lose out on additional 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks.

    Maybe he’ll be good or great – but there’s no denying they could have had Manuel AND additional picks but opted not to go that route.

  100. rkt4mayor says: Apr 26, 2013 1:03 PM

    Bottom Line: It was a reach.

    But, the Bills have had nothing at QB since Drew Bledsoe.

    It was a reach but for Buffalo it might have been a reach they had to make.

  101. acasarsa says: Apr 26, 2013 1:07 PM

    I really find it comical how 90% of commenters pre-draft were saying that we shouldn’t trade down and just take a qb at #8 to be 100% sure we got our guy. Many mocks even had us taking nassib at 8!!! Trading down was a great move to get more picks but it would be insanely risky and presumptuous to think that EJ (who the “experts” say has the best physical tools in the draft at qb) would last to pick 41 in the second. jets, philly, browns, jags, arizona, oakland, vikings all possible teams to take a qb. There was geno, barkley, nassib and EJ and then landry and bray (sp). thats 6 qb’s and 8 teams including the bills… that could all take a qb after the 16th pick. 5 of those teams pick before the Bills in 2nd round. Vikings had 2 picks after them in the 1st. oakland could trade up. who knows maybe titans give up on Locker… That’s alot of risk when you already got yourself 2 extra 2nd rounders… plus the bidding war for a jump to the top of the 2nd would have been insane!! Vikings gave up a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 7th to get back into the 1st!! If we had not take a qb then were forced to trade back up we would probably have had no more picks left… and what would we have a better DE? or WR maybe…? serisouly think just a little and you’ll see the move was well thought out and risk averse to get the guy they wanted and likely get them 2 more potential starters. a bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush you know. This time we got a bird in hand and still get a shot at those 2 in the bush. Sounds win win to me.

  102. peepeetoucher says: Apr 26, 2013 1:16 PM

    Im having Deja Vu with all these Bills fans saying they now have a franchise QB n are super bowl bound just like last year with signing Mario. Can we at least wait till he actually plays an NFL game before saying it wasn’t a reach n that it was a good pick.

  103. swagger52 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:29 PM

    No wonder the Patriots have had such a push-over division for so long.

    The Ravens picked Elam because he plays like a Raven.

    The Bills drafted the 6th best QB 3rd round talent in first round. Lets hope that Emanuel plays better than the Bills draft. I am sick of always having to travel to New England for the playoffs because of their cake schedule.

  104. swagger52 says: Apr 26, 2013 1:30 PM

    Oh gee…lets see who do the Patriots play first? Hmmm..The Bills. Sure, NFL schedulers, lets be sure to give the Patriots a rookie QB first game. No wonder NFL wouldn’t move the Ravens game, they had some tough scheduling to figure out to give the Patriots a dream schedule again.

  105. myeaglescantwin says: Apr 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    so who is this SMOKE gentlemen they keep referring to??

  106. buffalomafia says: Apr 26, 2013 3:55 PM

    Manuel should be the starter!

    Kolb is a concussion away from being a waiste of a pick up!

  107. seaeagle707 says: Apr 26, 2013 5:01 PM

    “Well Kevin, I know that this might be a hard pill to swallow, but its for the good of the team, and you are a team guy, aren’t you? Sure you are, and hey, Andy told me that you were the best clipboard holder he had in Philadelphia. That says a lot about you Kevin, something to be proud of.”

  108. vaellis says: Apr 26, 2013 6:22 PM

    I’m going to save this page for when EJ Manuel is a really great player. It may never happen, but if it does, MAN are you guys going to look foolish.

    Armchair GMs that MUST know better football than people with more experience, more access, and aren’t watching YouTube videos…

  109. swordsmenrule says: Apr 26, 2013 9:47 PM

    What’s with the Bills drafting QB’s that use intials for their names… JP Losman, EJ Manuel.

    Can we draft a guy who goes buy a full name?

  110. keepyerstickontheice says: Apr 27, 2013 12:05 AM

    …CJ Spiller, TJ Graham, CJ Ah You, CJ Hawthorne, TJ Heath, JD Hill, DJ Fitzpatrick, JP Foschi, AJ Ofodile, PK Sam, EJ Underwood

  111. keepyerstickontheice says: Apr 27, 2013 12:06 AM

    If they’re blowin’ the same kind of smoke I am, that would explain the pick.

  112. drednot says: Apr 27, 2013 7:27 AM

    Are you sure it was the Bills blowing smoke and not the media?

  113. pksullivanmha says: Apr 27, 2013 9:36 AM

    Time will tell the wisdom of this pick. @footballady52 🏈

  114. followme2boston says: Apr 28, 2013 7:04 PM

    A lot of the Bills draft was of the boom or bust variety. Next couple of years should be interesting.

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