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Jags want to make a deal at top of round two

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So what will the Jaguars do with the first pick in round two?

Trade it, if they can.

With the first 32 picks already taken, there will be a team that covets a specific player, and that team could offer enough to the Jaguars to get to the top of round two.

If the Jaguars can’t trade the pick, the position on which they’ll most likely focus is quarterback.  And while they expected to be in position to choose between Matt Barkley and Ryan Nassib, the Jags now have Geno Smith in the mix.

Still, with 10-15 players who could have gone in round one now parked at the top of round two, the Jags will open the floor for offers.

They should hope a trade goes through.  One year after taking a punter five spots before Russell Wilson and two years after trading up for Blaine Gabbert instead of trading down for Colin Kaepernick, picking a quarterback in this spot would entail playing a shell game, with a distinct possibility that there’s no red ball under any of them.

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  1. jagfan4212 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:25 AM

    No way the Jags take a QB. While they need one, none of these are worth the 33rd pick with so many other needs and players higher on the board. My bet is a trade down. If not, DB help of some kind.

  2. thesteelers says: Apr 26, 2013 9:26 AM

    LOL

  3. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator says: Apr 26, 2013 9:28 AM

    Nobody wants Geno. Warren Moon is probably pissed.

  4. dennyg2 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:28 AM

    The Jags are sure to mess this opportunity up…it is what they do.

  5. zclorz says: Apr 26, 2013 9:28 AM

    Jags want to have publicity after their new uniform publicity was somewhat of a flop….. They want Te’o!

  6. jagsfan1 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:29 AM

    As a Jags fan…PLEASE do NOT take any of these qb’s in round 2….or at all for that matter…I don’t see ANY of them turning into a quality NFL starting qb…so why would we draft a backup when we need a huge talent infusion?

    Trade down…accumulate talent in secondary, oline, dline…but these QBs?

    No way.

    Love our 1st pick…hate all of these qb’s.

  7. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 26, 2013 9:29 AM

    Don’t be surprised if the Vikings trade next year’s first-round pick for an early second-round pick today.

  8. kaptingavrin says: Apr 26, 2013 9:35 AM

    “If the Jaguars can’t trade the pick, the position on which they’ll most likely focus is quarterback”

    No. First, they wouldn’t be drafting a starter, so moot point (as they’ve said they want to take guys who can come in and make an immediate impact). Second, it’s already been noted elsewhere that the Jags won’t be pursuing a QB. They’ll most likely focus on the defense, which has a number of holes, and which there are plenty of good players left for.

    I can see the team grabbing a passer in the middle rounds to eventually shove Henne out of the backup position and make Gabbert feel like his job is in danger, but anything higher is a waste at this point.

  9. frankgarrett says: Apr 26, 2013 9:38 AM

    Geno Smith will be a Bust . Vikings giving away 4 picks LOL .. i hope that W.R is the next Moss or CARTER .. cause if he fails .. LULZ for a long time MN .

  10. calwilliams06 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:39 AM

    With some of the cheap deals already done for teams moving up in the first, we could see a flurry of trades at the top of the 2nd as teams jockey for their guy.

  11. jcjaguar says: Apr 26, 2013 9:42 AM

    Do it!!!!

    Go Jags!!!

  12. natijim235 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:43 AM

    they’ll find a way to screw it up

  13. hater79 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:48 AM

    Barkley is the best QB in this draft class. Trade down two spots let someone else wet the bed taking Geno and pick up Barkley.

  14. cheapseater says: Apr 26, 2013 9:53 AM

    If the Jags liked one of this year’s 2nd rd. QBs, they would stay put and take their pick of the litter. I would be surprised if they take on in the 2nd.

  15. riseabovecancer says: Apr 26, 2013 9:54 AM

    Maybe the Chiefs should trade Branden Albert to the Jaguars for the top pick in the 2nd round of the draft and say screw the Dolphins

  16. crit76 says: Apr 26, 2013 9:55 AM

    I hope JAGS don’t waste a draft pick on a quarterback this draft. They still have holes at cornerback, linebacker, safety, and defensive end.

    Give Gabbert one more year…a year behind a good offensive line and with better/experienced receivers…if he fails this year then target a quarterback in the 2014 draft.

  17. icdogg says: Apr 26, 2013 10:03 AM

    Well, first of all, if they like one of the quarterbacks here, if they think he could be the guy of the future, they should probably just go ahead and take him.

  18. seatownballers says: Apr 26, 2013 10:06 AM

    Jags still need a pass rush. They should take best de on the board. But in reality they’ll probably go kicker

  19. jcjaguar says: Apr 26, 2013 10:10 AM

    Get more big guys….M. Watson, Hankins, Montgomery, Armstead, Warford…hopefully after trading back.

  20. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 26, 2013 10:13 AM

    frankgarrett says:Apr 26, 2013 9:38 AM

    Geno Smith will be a Bust . Vikings giving away 4 picks LOL .. i hope that W.R is the next Moss or CARTER .. cause if he fails .. LULZ for a long time MN .
    ________

    Those picks look like a lot now, but put names on those picks and anyone would be willing to give them up for a guy with the potential of Patterson.

  21. fantom21 says: Apr 26, 2013 10:16 AM

    Nassib kind of reminds me of drew Brees with Aaron Rodgers throwing motion. Not saying he’s ever going to be as good as those two but he can definitely move around in the pocket and has a quick release.

  22. 8to80texansblog says: Apr 26, 2013 10:23 AM

    Interesting stat I heard on the radio this morning. In the previous 5 years to the Browns drafting Joe Thomas # 1 overall they won 33 games. The following 5 years they won 36 games. If you don’t have a franchise QB to protect, an elite LT is an overvalued commodity.

    As a Texans fan and an Aggie, I can’t wait to see Watt matched up with Joeckel. I imagine though the Texans will just line Watt up on the left side to avoid Joeckel.

  23. realdealsteel says: Apr 26, 2013 10:24 AM

    We are about to find out how the Jags reeeeaaaally feel about Gabbert.

    If they go QB, Barkley is the pick because Smith’s stock is falling like apple’s.

    The Jags need so much, they should trade down and pick up a couple of additional picks too.

  24. brohamma says: Apr 26, 2013 10:24 AM

    Jacksonville made the right move taking Joeckel in the first, now they need to make the next right move and take either Cyprien or Swearinger to help them on the back-end of their defense.

  25. johnnyjagfan says: Apr 26, 2013 10:26 AM

    The Jags will take a QB, but not at #33. There will be four arms in camp, per Caldwell.

    Get some value, Dave! More picks the better when it comes to this roster. Gotta add some new blood that’s in line with the new regime.

    Love the Joekel pick. KC overthought it. It’s like having Tony Boselli back except with a Texan attitude instead of a mad Italian with an edge from So Cal.

  26. northshorejag says: Apr 26, 2013 10:31 AM

    As long as they take nothing less than next years first, I’m happy

  27. mobuccsfan says: Apr 26, 2013 10:39 AM

    Jags will most likely trade–but I still think they take a QB in the second or third round. I’d be shocked it they wait until next year–although the talent is supposed to be much better. And I think Nassib is the intriguing pick. I still think he would more than likely end up in J’ville while Barkley lands in the desert (Zona) and Geno lands in CLE or Philly.

  28. maddenisfordorks says: Apr 26, 2013 10:43 AM

    I’d move down a few extra spots for an extra 3rd even …..

    To help us make up for the 3rd we used last year on a punter.

  29. jbaxt says: Apr 26, 2013 10:49 AM

    8to80, now do that same comparison to the Rams taking Orlando Pace.

    See what I did there? Your opinion of LT’s… Fail!

  30. gpack22 says: Apr 26, 2013 11:38 AM

    Not a Jags fan in the slightest but they shouldn’t take a QB at all in this draft. They are still a season or two away, might as well use their high pick next draft on a legit QB prospect. Shore up the rest of the team at this point to make it easier on the new guy down the road.

  31. section112 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:06 PM

    Trade the pick and move back. Take Barrett Jones, center, from Alabama. Brad Meister will not be back next year. Meister has been a decent player, but going into his 13th year.

    Jones would be a perfect fit and would make this O line complete.

  32. jrmbadger says: Apr 26, 2013 12:32 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:Apr 26, 2013 10:13 AM

    frankgarrett says:Apr 26, 2013 9:38 AM

    Geno Smith will be a Bust . Vikings giving away 4 picks LOL .. i hope that W.R is the next Moss or CARTER .. cause if he fails .. LULZ for a long time MN .
    ________

    Those picks look like a lot now, but put names on those picks and anyone would be willing to give them up for a guy with the potential of Patterson.
    =====================

    Except that you have to wonder if the Vikings could have traded for Jacksonville’s second round pick and gotten him there for cheaper.

  33. glac1 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:34 PM

    Wilson and Kaepernick have a ways to go before I call them great picks. Once again Mike is using hindsight to judge players. I wonder what he was saying about those two a year ago…

  34. 2ruefan says: Apr 26, 2013 12:36 PM

    frankgarrett says: Apr 26, 2013 9:38 AM

    Geno Smith will be a Bust . Vikings giving away 4 picks LOL .. i hope that W.R is the next Moss or CARTER .. cause if he fails .. LULZ for a long time MN .
    ********************************************
    “LOL” at yourself there cowboy. Clearly you don’t may much attention. Vikes did not “give away” 4 picks.
    – They SWAPPED their 2nd Round for a First Round pick
    – Then essentially (to move up 32 spots gave up 3,4 and a 7 (which is a throw-away).

    So, to summarize they gave up a 3 and a 4 to get another 1st round pick/talent. Which is pretty much what you would value/expect in a trade.

    From the Value Chart:
    Pick 31 = 600 Points

    Pick 57 – 330 points (Their 2nd round)
    Pick 89 – 145 points (Their 3rd round)
    PIck 121 – 52 points (Their 4th Round)
    Pick 184 – 4.6 points (Their 7th Round)

    “Point value” wise – they came out ahead actually..

    So, I guess the only thing you should be “LOL” about is your own lack of draft comprehension.

  35. bbrophy1 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:39 PM

    trade it to the Patriots for Ryan Mallett

  36. bullsonparade1977 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:42 PM

    I know I’ll get a lot if thumbs down, but mjd is 20lbs overweight because if his injury. Wouldn’t surprise me if they took lacy or bell… Or maybe give Gannett another target with ertz as well. Keep in mind, although hindsight is 20/20 gabbert was the number 1 rated qb coming out of the draft a couple of years ago. Drafted one spot ahead of the almighty jj watt…

  37. kahnsstache904 says: Apr 26, 2013 12:42 PM

    I rather the Jags take a chance on Glennon. Late 2nd, early 3rd Rd?

  38. 8to80texansblog says: Apr 26, 2013 1:27 PM

    jbaxt says: Apr 26, 2013 10:49 AM

    8to80, now do that same comparison to the Rams taking Orlando Pace.

    See what I did there? Your opinion of LT’s… Fail!
    —————————

    I don’t under value LTs. I SAID without a franchise QB to protect, an LT is an overvalued commodity.

    Orlando Pace protected Kurt Warner who won an MVP and led his teams to 3 superbowls… Blaine Gabbert, ehh not so much.

    Believe me, I’m a HUGE Joeckel fan! I just think when you have as many holes as the Jags, you should have traded back and picked up more picks. Just my $0.02.

  39. thegreatgabbert says: Apr 26, 2013 1:40 PM

    That Hideously Scarred Camel at the San Francisco Zoo, has all of 7 starts in the NFL, bit early to be declaring him better than Gabbert. He was 25 freaking years old before he got his crazy ass off the bench. That was only due to injury to another player. He still ended up with worse passing numbers than Alex Smith in the half season he played.

  40. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Apr 26, 2013 1:47 PM

    2ruefan says:Apr 26, 2013 12:36 PM

    frankgarrett says: Apr 26, 2013 9:38 AM

    Geno Smith will be a Bust . Vikings giving away 4 picks LOL .. i hope that W.R is the next Moss or CARTER .. cause if he fails .. LULZ for a long time MN .
    ********************************************
    “LOL” at yourself there cowboy. Clearly you don’t may much attention. Vikes did not “give away” 4 picks.
    – They SWAPPED their 2nd Round for a First Round pick
    – Then essentially (to move up 32 spots gave up 3,4 and a 7 (which is a throw-away).

    So, to summarize they gave up a 3 and a 4 to get another 1st round pick/talent. Which is pretty much what you would value/expect in a trade.

    From the Value Chart:
    Pick 31 = 600 Points

    Pick 57 – 330 points (Their 2nd round)
    Pick 89 – 145 points (Their 3rd round)
    PIck 121 – 52 points (Their 4th Round)
    Pick 184 – 4.6 points (Their 7th Round)

    “Point value” wise – they came out ahead actually..

    So, I guess the only thing you should be “LOL” about is your own lack of draft comprehension.
    _______

    It’s even better than that because they got the 29th pick, not the 31st pick.

  41. thesteelers says: Apr 26, 2013 1:48 PM

    dennyg2 says:
    Apr 26, 2013 9:28 AM
    The Jags are sure to mess this opportunity up…it is what they do.
    ________________________________

    This is the sort of opportunity that Jags fans should want them to mess up. Geno/Barkley/Nassib are not going to be a successful franchise quarterbacks. Your best bet this year was with Manuel and he is gone.

  42. falstaffsmind says: Apr 26, 2013 5:58 PM

    I am sure all the cameras will be focused on those folding card tables the jags call a war room.

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