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Jared Allen tells Christian Ponder: “You have to be the guy”

Christian Ponder, Matt Kalil, Jared Allen AP

Vikings defensive end Jared Allen believes that if the Vikings are going to be Super Bowl contenders, the leadership of the team has to come not from him, and not from Adrian Peterson, but from quarterback Christian Ponder.

I tell him all the time, you have to be the guy,” Allen said of Ponder on Jim Rome’s show. “Adrian can carry this team so far, our defense can carry this team so far. You know, you look at teams that historically win championships and they have consistent play from the quarterback position.”

Last year the Vikings didn’t get Super Bowl-caliber play from Ponder: He was 21st in the NFL in quarterback rating, 23rd in passing touchdowns and and 25th in passing yards. But Allen believes Ponder can take a big step forward this year.

“I hope he makes leaps and bounds,” Allen said. “He’s a great dude.”

If Ponder can be more than just a great dude and also become a great quarterback, the Vikings could be contenders.

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  1. Carl Gerbschmidt says: May 3, 2013 6:57 AM

    Sounds like he is trying to convince himself,..

  2. mungman69 says: May 3, 2013 6:58 AM

    Good luck Ponder. I see 3-3 in the division and 8-8 overall. How’s that for going out on a limb?

  3. kingpel says: May 3, 2013 7:07 AM

    My vote. Ponder is not the guy.

  4. whatjusthapped says: May 3, 2013 7:10 AM

    He’s spot on in his analysis but still it’s wishful thinking. It would be different if Ponder had the talent and just wasn’t realizing his full potential but spend 5 minutes watching him and it becomes painfully obvious that he just doesn’t have the arm strength to play in the NFL.

    The Vikings throwing offense consists of bubble screens, dump off passes to the TE in the flat, and slants. Defenses will be more prepared tis year to take away what little Ponder can do.

    The longer the Vikings stick with Ponder, the better it will be for the other 31 teams. Not to mention Peterson’s career will be shrunk by another year and he doesn’t have that many left.

  5. jcmeyer10 says: May 3, 2013 7:15 AM

    Not saying anything groundbreaking. At least Ponder seems like a guy who will have a good attitude about this weight on his shoulders.

    Regardless, I like the vibe coming from this team. Seems like a good blend of young and veteran.

    Even if they can get a Trent Dilfer year out of Ponder I think this team can make some noise.

  6. thegonz13 says: May 3, 2013 7:21 AM

    Before being great, he has to start with being good. Baby steps…

  7. nuttyj says: May 3, 2013 7:23 AM

    Ponder took a ton of slack for what was a terrible stretch of games last year, but if you look at what he did with Harvin for six weeks, compared to 10 without a true NFL receiver you can see a true shot at a break out 2013.

    With Harvin 68.56 completion % (second in league at the time but he led league first 4 weeks), 234 yards per game so on pace for 3,824. 8 TD and 4 INT (so pace for 21/22 and 10/11). So numbers not bad for a second year guy coming off 10 starts in shut out shortened season where unlike Dalton and Newton he did not get all the training camp snaps that went to McNabb.

    Add Jennings, Patterson, more chemistry with Rudolph, second year Wright and a healthy Simpson/Carlson and now you have some weapons to throw to so a real chance for success.

  8. vltrophy14 says: May 3, 2013 7:25 AM

    Lets not forget the 4 or 5 Super Bowls the Vikings have been in where they came away w/ big fat L EVERY TIME!!! There are 5 Super Bowl trophies in the NFC North div. The Packers have 4 of them

  9. thacheez says: May 3, 2013 7:30 AM

    It’s not a coincidence that Kyle Rudolph was Pro Bowl MVP and catches passes all over the field. Under Musgrave he’s restricted to about 3 routes, and Musgrave usually never gets him off the line and restricts him from getting downfield to make a play. Musgrave = Mike Mularkey. Atlanta is really missing those guys now aren’t they?

  10. doorharp11 says: May 3, 2013 7:34 AM

    Ponder is the guy and will be the guy. You say he doesnt have arm strength are you kidding me? He wouldnt be in the nfl if that were the case. Trust in spielman ponder is the guy!

  11. pappavike says: May 3, 2013 7:34 AM

    Third year!! And better weapons, Ponder will be the guy!! Ponder will shut up his critics!! this year once and fore all!!

  12. GenXJay says: May 3, 2013 7:38 AM

    Christian is the guy.
    I’m sure A.j. Hawk had the same talk w/ShAaron in cheeseland
    Ray Lewis & Dilfer
    Sapp & B. Johnson
    Freeney & Payton
    Burt & Ernie

  13. cromartiesforgottenchild says: May 3, 2013 7:40 AM

    If someone has to tell you that you are defiantly not the guy.

  14. lostsok says: May 3, 2013 7:50 AM

    To be fair, he is still developing. With a lot of work and a couple more years, he has every chance in the world of being he next Chad Henne.

  15. Shinnbone says: May 3, 2013 7:53 AM

    Hey Jared….he’s not the guy!

  16. green41563 says: May 3, 2013 7:55 AM

    He will be the guy.

    Who prevents them from advancing in the playoffs.

  17. Shinnbone says: May 3, 2013 7:57 AM

    and this Breaking News…The Vikings still suck!

  18. gromgrimfist says: May 3, 2013 7:57 AM

    i loled when i read this living in mn and seeing him play the last couple years they might want to bring tebow in for compition

  19. thenew013 says: May 3, 2013 7:57 AM

    I am rooting for Ponder i like his character. He seems like a strong guy it is hard to believe he doesnt have the proper arm strength to succeed in the NFL. I give him another 1 or 2 years he has showed promise.

  20. SilentMajority says: May 3, 2013 8:00 AM

    Ponder is destined to become the sage of journeyman quarterbacks…

  21. sgmjerry220 says: May 3, 2013 8:01 AM

    To all Ponder haters out there, that make the most galatically stupid comments like: 1) “He doesn’t have the arm strength”; 2) “He doesn’t possess the skills/talent”; etc… This post is for you.
    If Ponder didn’t have both 1 &2 above do you really think the Spielman would’ve drafted him? A guy who has consistently drafted better than any GM in the game since he was given total control of personnel.
    Secondly, were you still in orbit the last 4 games of the season, every one of which we were playing to make the playoffs and the other team had something on the line too. He sure looked different than he did at the beginning of the season now didn’t he?
    Lastly, to those that say all he can throw is the slant, bubble screen, short yardage stuff. My guess is he had to run the play that was called and did not have audible authority? That “short” little 65 yd toss to Wright in week 17 sure didn’t look like someone with a weak arm threw it?
    Ponder will be a better QB this season, he will be better because we have better receivers for him, we have a great offensive line, and AP is a beast. More importantly Musgrave will give him more control and play calling responsibility.
    So to the Ponder haters, when he plays better this year, I expect you to come back on here and admit your mistake.

  22. irishgary says: May 3, 2013 8:02 AM

    and everyone in the room cracked up

  23. jimmysee says: May 3, 2013 8:06 AM

    Yup — and with Aaron Rodgers’ new contract, the Vikings won’t be able to try to sign him for, what, eight more years!

  24. locutus says: May 3, 2013 8:14 AM

    Ponder has the smarts and the arm strength to be a very good QB in the league. It is his footwork that screws up his passing, for those that really want to know and continue to blame it on “arm strength”.

    Two issues that are yet to be determined and have direct impact on whether Ponder will be successful. Either he over thinks situations and the game, in turn, continues to be too fast for him or Musgrave has an extremely tight control of the game and does not allow much freestylin from his QB and Ponder obliges.

    We’ll see this year how he has progressed from last year. The end of season Green Bay gives Vikings fans hope that he may have made a significant turn but we will see. It will also be interesting to see if he is allowed to audible out of things this year.

  25. saints4life57 says: May 3, 2013 8:15 AM

    LOL, I’m pretty sure people comment complaints on here just to see their hateful words and feel better about themselves in some fashion! Weather Ponder is going to improve or not as a QB, what is the problem with one of his team mates saying nice things about him and trying to show a little trust in the guy! It’s not going to hurt any that’s for sure! Allen could have always said I don’t think he is the guy and bashed him and made the dude doubt himself! I think this is a class act from Allen! Good for him!

  26. kingpel says: May 3, 2013 8:15 AM

    mungman69 says: May 3, 2013 6:58 AM

    Good luck Ponder. I see 3-3 in the division and 8-8 overall. How’s that for going out on a limb?

    ………………………………………………………………………

    They should be 8-8 with ME as QB and handing the ball off to AP every down. Ponder is more likely to cost them games instead of win them a few.

  27. gbmickey says: May 3, 2013 8:15 AM

    The words “I hope” are pretty telling as is “I tell him all the time. It says Ponder doesn’t have much confidence in himself and Allen does not either.

  28. phinfan says: May 3, 2013 8:20 AM

    Forest Gump > Ponder

  29. davekezer says: May 3, 2013 8:21 AM

    I like Ponder because he really does hold himself accountable. He made mention of the fact that his performance last year simply wasn’t that great, and that takes some guts. It’s clear that that arm injury put a damper on what he could do at the end of last year. I would have loved to have seen him in that playoff game.

    That said, if he puts up the same type of performance this year, Minny will be forced to at least peek into some other options at QB. I think having Cassel there will definitely help Ponder as far as having a smart mentor-type around. Time will tell.

  30. banlarson says: May 3, 2013 8:30 AM

    If you look at the last 4 games of the season Ponder did exactly what he needs to do for the Vikes to at least go deeper into the playoffs. He did that without Harvin; instead he had WRs who could not seperate (watch the film), and Rudolph was doubled.

    This year he has Jennings, and emerging Wright and Patterson. The guy needed receivers…he has some now. He should show marked improvement. With Peterson he doesn’t have to be Rogers, just solid and consistent.

  31. kingbeason52 says: May 3, 2013 8:34 AM

    Imagine Newton or Wilson being the QB..with AP and Jennings..crazy..

  32. fwippel says: May 3, 2013 8:40 AM

    I’m not as down on Ponder as many Viking fans seem to be.

    For starters, anyone who questions his arm strength must have missed the last game of the season against the Packers; his arm looked pretty good on that long throw to Jarius Wright.

    Second, part of the problem last year was a combination of lethargic play-calling from Bill Musgrave (especially early in the season), and the lack of quality targets at WR. With Harvin in the slot most of the time, Ponder showed little faith in throwing to the X and Y receivers on the outside. Considering who was manning those positions, it’s understandible. Jerome Simpson was nearly invisible all year. Michael Jenkins was not a threat beat any CB deep. The targets at outside WR just weren’t there.

    Yes, Ponder made some boneheaded decisions in the middle part of the season. However, he rebounded nicely the final month the season, and helped lead the team to the playoffs. The Vikings don’t beat the Packers in that final game with Ponder’s passing.

    I remember a year ago thinking that the Vikings could get 8-9 wins in 2012 with their talent, while most Viking fans were thinking 4-5 wins tops.

    I see that same pessimism this year, mostly directed at Ponder. If Greg Jennings stays healthy, and the Vikings can coach Patterson into the starting lineup at WR, Ponder can finally have some confidence in his outside receivers. If Musgrave shows some confidence in him, the rest is up to Ponder. He has all the physical skills needed; his decision making needs to continue improving, and I think it will.

  33. purplepride1978 says: May 3, 2013 8:45 AM

    My belief is that Christian ponder can develop into a solid quarterback if he can maintain better pocket presence. Now that he has some weapons to work with in the receiving corps, there should be no more excuses as to why he can’t put up a 300 yard game.

    If you look at Matthew Stafford’s history, he was not a very good quarterback the first couple seasons but then he developed into a great quarterback (thanks largely to Calvin Johnson aka beast).

    Long story short, this is a make or break season for Christian ponder.

  34. burnz1379 says: May 3, 2013 8:52 AM

    why cant the vikings just admit they f’ed up when they picked ponder… move on and draft another qb … my only hope for the team is that he fails miserably we get a good draft pick next year and we take the best qb we can get in the first round

  35. shlort says: May 3, 2013 8:57 AM

    Ponder was never, and will never be “the guy”.

    Some players ahve it, and some almost have it and some players don’t have it at all. Ponder is in the area between not having it at all and almost having it. That is as far as he will get.

  36. Norseman says: May 3, 2013 9:02 AM

    Totally agree with Allen.

    Ponder will step-up this year. Believe it or not, Ponder finished the year with the 2nd highest passer rating in the league his last 4 games. And he managed it without Percy Harvin, who was out all of those games.

    This year, he’ll have more weapons and have advanced along the learning curve to the point where the game has slowed down and he is able to make things happen, rather than simply react.

  37. officialgame says: May 3, 2013 9:07 AM

    Did he Ponder a reply?

  38. bornking24 says: May 3, 2013 9:35 AM

    You ain’t gotta respect Ponder, But Respect Allen because he’s speaking the truth. If Ponder doesn’t step up, MN’s SB chances are slim.

  39. rj6976 says: May 3, 2013 9:37 AM

    ” you have to be the guy, unless we can talk Brett into coming back again”

  40. stevenwilliams2013 says: May 3, 2013 9:42 AM

    The Vikings have a strong team and they had a great draft in 2013 but QB position is the main question on his team.

  41. ejmat2 says: May 3, 2013 9:47 AM

    May 3, 2013 6:58 AM
    Good luck Ponder. I see 3-3 in the division and 8-8 overall. How’s that for going out on a limb?
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    Funny. They were 4-2 in the division last year and had the best upgrades. Of course anything can happen. They may be 0-6 or 6-0.

    I do agree that Ponder to this point, has not shown he’s a starting calibur NFL QB. He does need to step it up or the Vikings will only be playoff contenders. Anything average or above average from Ponder will make the team dangerous and difficult to defend.

    I know people don’t like what “whatjusthapped” said above. But the fact is he is dead on. Unless Ponder does step it up.

  42. j4man1 says: May 3, 2013 9:53 AM

    For the last time, the Vikings won’t win the SB, go to the SB, or even get close to the SB.

  43. buhbay1c says: May 3, 2013 9:54 AM

    Not saying he will be an elite QB, but he made throws against the division champs with the playoffs on the line, which is more than can be said for Aaron Rodgers, who at age 24 was holding a clipboard and scanning the Lambeau crowd for chubby gals for drinks at the VFW after the game.

  44. keylimelight says: May 3, 2013 9:55 AM

    I can understand (and agree with) Jared Allen’s viewpoint but, I don’t think he should be airing it out to the media. The season hasn’t even begun and he’s throwing his QB to the wolves.

    How does publicly calling out Ponder help the situation?

    Keep it inside the team.

  45. comebackid says: May 3, 2013 9:58 AM

    Defenses will watch why they did last year then Patterson will take the top off the d and they have to play 2 deep. Then ap starts punching holes. This isn’t gonna be the same team from last year people.

  46. titogetmesometissue says: May 3, 2013 10:02 AM

    You can put lipstick on a pig, but …

  47. philobetto2013 says: May 3, 2013 10:09 AM

    Every rookie QB last year did better then Ponder!!He is so under developed and no better than a 3rd string QB. Vikings don’t waste another season with hoping!!

  48. theytukrjobs says: May 3, 2013 10:09 AM

    Ponder was about 15th on ESPN’s total QB ranking system, which for my money is better than the old QB rating. (QB rating doesn’t count runs, sacks, and fumbles. QB rating also doesn’t weight the scoring towards how well guys play in big spots. The ESPN ranking takes weight away from QB performances when they have a big lead or a big deficit, which makes sense).

    Ponder isn’t elite by any stretch. But overall he ranked in the middle to slightly below average range despite having pretty mediocre overall WR talent around him and being on a team that stresses the run and run heavy formations. And this is his third season, when QB’s generally come into their own.

    It is possible that Ponder could be a top 10 QB this year in statistics like QB rating or ESPN’s total QB rating. He isn’t going to put up big yardages or TD numbers on this run first offense. But he has a chance to be very efficient, which is exactly what they need him to be. The dreaded game manager and a leader is what this team needs.

  49. prideof10000lakes says: May 3, 2013 10:14 AM

    whatjusthapped says:
    May 3, 2013 7:10 AM
    The Vikings throwing offense consists of bubble screens, dump off passes to the TE in the flat, and slants. Defenses will be more prepared tis year to take away what little Ponder can do.

    The longer the Vikings stick with Ponder, the better it will be for the other 31 teams. Not to mention Peterson’s career will be shrunk by another year and he doesn’t have that many left.

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    Coming from your elite arm chair football mind?
    Why do we have all new recievers this year if Ponder was the reason we were so bad. Nobody was saying Boo about his arm strength until Percy’s hot head decided to sit out.

    Wanna talk about career longevity? How many more concussions can Rodgers take with that shuffled around o-line you guys have?

    Get a life.

  50. prideof10000lakes says: May 3, 2013 10:17 AM

    Look up Joe Flaccos 2nd year stats and Ponders First year stats and you’ll see they are remarkably similar. Its different when a guy has to learn on the field instead of behind Brett Favre.

    Even with Ponder, the vikes were only 2 interceptions away from winning the division over the FudgePack last year. How’s it gonna be with a little improvement this next year?

    Scared, worried little Packer Trolls.

    We Comin.

  51. thestrategyexpert says: May 3, 2013 10:23 AM

    My #1 question is still wondering who was the guy that championed the idea of drafting Ponder the most. Is it in fact Rick Spielman the guy they promoted to the GM role? If that’s the case then he does have to be the guy, otherwise it will be awfully embarrassing to the Vikes for failing so miserably each and every year despite having a legendary RB better than they are ever going to find.

    You guys in Minnesota don’t know how much the Detroit guys love you so dearly for failing to capitalize on having Peterson after we did the same with Barry. It’s nice to watch you struggle and not be wise having learned from our decades of mistakes which basically should have given you a roadmap to avoiding doing what we did. Watching the Vikings try to manufacture a championship is like watching 2 Klingons doing synchronized skating. It just does not look very graceful!

  52. katopete16 says: May 3, 2013 10:24 AM

    If the Vikes are .500 or worse come mid-season you’d think Cassel would get a shot to see if he can do better. The inconsistency at the QB position cannot be tolerated if the Vikes expect to make a championship run.

  53. shaggytoodle says: May 3, 2013 10:26 AM

    I had stated yesterday that Allen may not sign an extension if Ponder doesn’t show improvement this year.

    I think this fortifies that there is truth in my statement, but like most Viking fan’s are blinded by purple, and can’t handle any critique about Minny. regardless of how much fact is behind it.

  54. finsguy says: May 3, 2013 10:43 AM

    I think some of you may be being too hard on the guy. They made the playoffs last year in a decent division and he was unable to play in the playoff game.

    Most of last year he had only Kyle Rudolph and AP on offense as Percy was out and the rest of the team “skill” players were sub par.

    I’m not saying he’s great but they have a good defense and they added Jennings and an outstanding rookie to the receiving core. They have a chance to be pretty good. If he doesn’t improve at least in to the top 12 or 15 range of QB’s then yeah, he will be shown to not be the guy IMO.

  55. locutusthebusybody says: May 3, 2013 10:51 AM

    Ponder does not have what it takes to be the QB of the future. The Vikes ended well against the Packers because AD got into the head of the Pack and the defense was too aggressive in trying to stop him. Once they started “squaring up” and meeting him head on (instead of over-pursuing), they were much more effective in stopping him.

  56. longcutskolvikes says: May 3, 2013 10:51 AM

    I’m going to enjoy watching the Vikes win the NFC North this year. Skol!

  57. aldavis4president says: May 3, 2013 11:01 AM

    I dont get it, its probably just vikings haters but with the kind of team the vikes have ponder IMHO would fit the description of “game manager” I think he’s way better then that but at the very least that’s what he is. I said it for years, Alex smith is a game manager and not much better then ponder. As soon as the 9ers saw somthin Frm kaepernick they shipped smith lol..not everyone is a manning brees or Brady , every team builds they’re team differently. When’s the last time peyton and brady won again??

  58. prideof10000lakes says: May 3, 2013 11:10 AM

    aldavis4president says:
    May 3, 2013 11:01 AM
    I dont get it, its probably just vikings haters but with the kind of team the vikes have ponder IMHO would fit the description of “game manager” I think he’s way better then that but at the very least that’s what he is. I said it for years, Alex smith is a game manager and not much better then ponder. As soon as the 9ers saw somthin Frm kaepernick they shipped smith lol..not everyone is a manning brees or Brady , every team builds they’re team differently. When’s the last time peyton and brady won again??

    ____________________

    Thats exactly what I’ve been saying. FINALLY somebody thats not from Wisconsin with a little bit of Sense.

  59. SilentMajority says: May 3, 2013 11:11 AM

    Alternate Headline:

    Jared Allen admits Vikings don’t have a shot at winning the Super Bowl

  60. purpleguy says: May 3, 2013 11:20 AM

    Ponder’s a good guy, but I think most Viking fans have their doubts about his long-term viability — we’ll know for certain after this coming season I guess.

  61. francheyes says: May 3, 2013 11:25 AM

    Are we talkin about the first guy or the second guy? And did you talk to him about the first thing or the second thing? Forgeta about it!

  62. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 11:28 AM

    I get where Jared is coming from. Would “the guy” ever skip a playoff game with a bruise?

  63. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 11:35 AM

    The Vikings are already contenders. They made the playoffs last year and they’ve improved over the offseason. If Ponder becomes a great quarterback, they’ll win multiple Super Bowls. I think he’ll step up to “average” this year and keep improving from there.

  64. stevent92 says: May 3, 2013 11:41 AM

    Ponder just finished year 2. I don’t recall any other QB who was “the guy” after year 2, with the possible exception of Roethliesberger. Steelers won SB XL and he was a by-product, not the reason.

    Rodgers didn’t even play in years 1-3. Favre was almost benched three years into his Packers tenure in 1994. Joe Flacco was up & down for the last 5 years before an uncharacteristic Super Bowl run. Eli Manning has been inconsistent & even missed the playoffs a couple of times, but somehow won 2 SB.

    Ponder just finished year #2. Give the man the same chance the other first-rounders all got. Packer trolls are simply speaking out of HOPE that he doesn’t get it all together. Because when he does, their team is a minimum 4 games worse than MN. They have no D, no O-Line, and a marginal running game.

  65. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 11:42 AM

    Unfortunately these are the sort of chemistry ruining schisms that the Vikings have been known for in recent years.

  66. radrntn says: May 3, 2013 11:43 AM

    vfan76 thinks so as well…super bowl or bust.

  67. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 11:52 AM

    theytukrjobs says: May 3, 2013 10:09 AM

    Ponder was about 15th on ESPN’s total QB ranking system, which for my money is better than the old QB rating.

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    Viking fans are wrong again. Imagine that. Ponder finished 20th.

    And that’s why Jared Allen had to call him out for not being a guy.

  68. necr0philia says: May 3, 2013 12:07 PM

    I guess they forgot that the Atlanta Falcons are in the NFC! Good luck making it to the Super Bowl!!

  69. shinedown37 says: May 3, 2013 12:21 PM

    The Vikings would be better off sending some troops down to Hattisburg and convince the old gunslinger to give it another go. That’s the only guy capable of leading them to the superbowl.

  70. prideof10000lakes says: May 3, 2013 12:26 PM

    necr0philia says:
    May 3, 2013 12:07 PM
    I guess they forgot that the Atlanta Falcons are in the NFC! Good luck making it to the Super Bowl!!

    ——————

    Good point, if anyone deserves criticism it is “Matty ice”.

    If he could win playoff games like he throws interceptions then maybe they would be a contender.

  71. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 12:30 PM

    For Ponder to flourish, he’s going to need that offensive line to step up and protect him better from the Packers defense and those arm bruise thingies. Otherwise the hapless, tasteless Vikings are doomed to yet another season of futility – over a half century and counting.

  72. prideof10000lakes says: May 3, 2013 12:36 PM

    @filthy,

    At least ponder has a job and a life.

    And the packers o line is really really good.

  73. squared80 says: May 3, 2013 12:39 PM

    Aaron Rodgers got 4 years to figure it out. Drew Brees was CUT, and finally figured it out his 5th year. Back off it, people. Not everyone can come into the NFL like Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, and Russell Wilson.

  74. squared80 says: May 3, 2013 12:41 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:
    May 3, 2013 12:30 PM
    For Ponder to flourish, he’s going to need that offensive line to step up and protect him better from the Packers defense and those arm bruise thingies.
    ——————————

    An obvious Packer troll. The Vikings had one of the best o-lines in the league last year. The Packers had one of the worst. Ah, ignorance. Nice try, though.

  75. contra74 says: May 3, 2013 12:46 PM

    Based on the number of packer fan responses you would think that they are nervous about something.

  76. diapaulic says: May 3, 2013 1:50 PM

    I don’t know if Ponder will ever be great/elite, but I don’t believe he needs to be as long as Adrian Peterson keeps racking up the yards. And he has a great attitude. I would take that over a Cutler any day. This Packer fan is looking forward to some extremely competitive and entertaining games with the Vikes this year!

  77. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 1:57 PM

    whatjusthapped says:May 3, 2013 7:10 AM

    He’s spot on in his analysis but still it’s wishful thinking. It would be different if Ponder had the talent and just wasn’t realizing his full potential but spend 5 minutes watching him and it becomes painfully obvious that he just doesn’t have the arm strength to play in the NFL.
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    Proof that you don’t know what you’re talking about, as if we needed any more. First, Ponder’s arm strength is about average for an NFL starting QB. Second, QBs with a lot less arm strength have been very successful in the NFL. Third, he put a 65-yard pass to Jarius Wright right on the money against your team last year. How quickly they forget.

  78. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 1:59 PM

    vltrophy14 says:May 3, 2013 7:25 AM

    Lets not forget the 4 or 5 Super Bowls the Vikings have been in where they came away w/ big fat L EVERY TIME!!! There are 5 Super Bowl trophies in the NFC North div. The Packers have 4 of them
    _______

    Thank you for that cogent and highly relevant analysis. Clearly, there’s no reason to play the season.

  79. mvp43 says: May 3, 2013 2:03 PM

    contra74 says:
    May 3, 2013 12:46 PM
    Based on the number of packer fan responses you would think that they are nervous about something
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    I guess you could say the same about all the Viking fan responses on the story about the Packers shuffling their O-line…

  80. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 2:23 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 1:59 PM

    vltrophy14 says:May 3, 2013 7:25 AM

    Lets not forget the 4 or 5 Super Bowls the Vikings have been in where they came away w/ big fat L EVERY TIME!!! There are 5 Super Bowl trophies in the NFC North div. The Packers have 4 of them
    _______

    Thank you for that cogent and highly relevant analysis. Clearly, there’s no reason to play the season.

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    Point taken. Any talk about your embarrassing team history makes you extremely uncomfortable. We’ll try and be more compassionate.

  81. inyofaceagain says: May 3, 2013 2:25 PM

    Ponder can be better than Flacco

  82. tokyosandblaster says: May 3, 2013 2:26 PM

    Ponder responded: I’m sorry, my arm has a booboo.

    Soft little girl at the most important position in the game.

    I understand why you guys are so insecure.

  83. stevent92 says: May 3, 2013 2:27 PM

    Packer fans ALWAYS commenting on Viking stories. You rarely see them on Bears & Lions stories. Only other teams they troll are the Seahawks & occassionally the 49ers. You can tell who they fear the most…

  84. tokyosandblaster says: May 3, 2013 2:43 PM

    stevent92 says:
    May 3, 2013 2:27 PM
    Packer fans ALWAYS commenting on Viking stories. You rarely see them on Bears & Lions stories. Only other teams they troll are the Seahawks & occassionally the 49ers. You can tell who they fear the most…

    Ahhhh, so that explains the the Vikings, lions, and bears fans all over the Packers boards.

    Well, and the jealousy.

  85. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 2:47 PM

    Bear fans aren’t so uppity.

  86. lnfinite says: May 3, 2013 3:02 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: May 3, 2013 2:26 PM

    Ponder responded: I’m sorry, my arm has a booboo.

    Soft little girl at the most important position in the game.

    I understand why you guys are so insecure.

    —————————————————

    There is no mistake you and some other Packer fans are so insecure spamming so frequently on Viking articles. Keep on making the childish excuse that Viking fans do the same on Packer stories, it is not even close to the amount of drivvle you post.

    As far as Ponder is concerned, it is a new year, new season and a new chance for success. Hope that Allen’s encouragement aids in boosting confidence. The last game he played in he tore up a weak swiss cheese defense and that could be the start of a new trend.

  87. tokyosandblaster says: May 3, 2013 3:18 PM

    Lol, you really are delusional. You should go check out the packers annual meeting. 60% Vikes posts.

    You just can’t take it.

    THAT’S childish.

  88. 28for20 says: May 3, 2013 3:47 PM

    Packer fans are scared silly( even more than they normally are). They know they will be back in last place next year and another 20 years of futility will follow. That’s why they spew the hate. Its called an inferiority complex! And they have it bad!

  89. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 3:50 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:May 3, 2013 2:23 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 1:59 PM

    vltrophy14 says:May 3, 2013 7:25 AM

    Lets not forget the 4 or 5 Super Bowls the Vikings have been in where they came away w/ big fat L EVERY TIME!!! There are 5 Super Bowl trophies in the NFC North div. The Packers have 4 of them
    _______

    Thank you for that cogent and highly relevant analysis. Clearly, there’s no reason to play the season.

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    Point taken. Any talk about your embarrassing team history makes you extremely uncomfortable. We’ll try and be more compassionate.
    _____

    Coming from the fan of a team that won one division championship from 1968 to 1994. I know you weren’t alive during that period, but that’s pretty embarrassing.

  90. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 3, 2013 3:51 PM

    tokyosandblaster says:May 3, 2013 3:18 PM

    Lol, you really are delusional. You should go check out the packers annual meeting. 60% Vikes posts.
    _____

    How can we resist that story? If you only knew how many paint thinner comments I tried to make that got deleted.

  91. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 4:15 PM

    lnfinite says: May 3, 2013 3:02 PM

    There is no mistake …….

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    Hey, aren’t you that moron that can’t tell the difference between facts and logic?

    Hilarious!

  92. joeyashwi says: May 3, 2013 5:30 PM

    Peterson on the Packers and they win a Super Bowl. Rodgers on the Vikings and they win a Super Bowl.
    The biggest difference between Ponder and the better QBs is that he waits for receivers to get open where the other QBs throw their receivers open. It’s not his arm strength, it’s his timing and decision making that hurt him. As a Packer fan I get to watch Rodgers every week and he adjusts his passes to free up his receivers. If Ponder learns to do that he’ll be fine, if not, the Vikes are wasting their time with him.

  93. beerndrums says: May 3, 2013 5:36 PM

    Jared Allen is a cheap shot dirty goofy slime ball Viking…something like that

  94. filthymcnasty1 says: May 3, 2013 6:57 PM

    beerndrums says: May 3, 2013 5:36 PM

    Jared Allen is a cheap shot dirty goofy slime ball Viking…something like that

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    All true!

    Unfortunately he is also a very good player. Maybe he can teach the noodle armed QB something about leadership. This would have been easier if they had kept Winfield around. But Jared will have to do.

  95. purpblooded says: May 3, 2013 11:33 PM

    Filth, Ponder this…….Fudge Packer fans are so good that they hung their head coaches dog for not winning enough. Now go troll on the 9ers threads.

  96. pappavike says: May 4, 2013 2:17 PM

    Ponder will light it up this year, No Percy in his ear, More weapons!! A better defence to give them better field position!! Not to mention the best running back in football toting the rock!! And by the way, They say imitating is the sencerist form of flattery! just look at what the rest of the division did in the draft they all took running backs!! Looks like the Vikes taught them how important it is to be able to run the ball!! But our run defence just got tougher!! 10&6

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