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Door not completely closed on Miami Super Bowls

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With the Dolphins not getting public money to upgrade Sun Life Stadium, it’s widely being assumed that South Florida will be shut out of the Super Bowl rotation.

The logic is simple, which makes it far easier for me to follow.  The NFL has strongly suggested that Miami won’t get another Super Bowl without upgrading the stadium.  The Dolphins, who have made a more clear link between the lack of upgrades and the absence of Super Bowls, have said the upgrades won’t happen without partial public money.  The partial public money isn’t available.  Thus, the upgrades won’t happen.

So future Super Bowls won’t happen, right?

Perhaps.

While we’re told it’s “not very likely” that Miami will get additional Super Bowls without a stadium upgrade, it’s not impossible.  Ultimately, the owners collectively decide where Super Bowls will be played.

Miami landed on the endangered Super Bowl species list after a continuous rainfall marred Super Bowl XLI between the Colts and the Bears.  The league wants the paying customers to be protected from the South Florida elements — less than a year before the NFL will be subjecting the paying customers to the New Jersey elements.

That remains the biggest disconnect, in our view.  It’s fine to drop the Super Bowl experience into Manhattan in the dead of winter, and to charge fans four figures to freeze while watching the game, but it’s no longer acceptable to spend a full week in Miami with the remote possibility that it will rain for four hours on Sunday night?

The problem for the league is that, if the owners relent and award additional Super Bowls to South Florida, the not-so-subtle “upgrade or else” mandate will come off as hollow.  But by removing Miami from the rotation, the league necessarily won’t have as much leverage to squeeze every last penny out of the other potential Super Bowl locations.

Even now, the owners need Miami at the table in order to get the best possible deal out of San Francisco for Super Bowl L and Houston for Super Bowl LI.  Likewise, it’s possible that Miami will launch a dramatic, eleventh-hour reconfiguration of its bid to give the NFL more money to make up for the lack of a stadium upgrade.

At a time when the NFL is trying to expand the universe of potential Super Bowl locations in order to have more bids to pit against each other, it makes no sense to slam the door on playing the game in one of the best places it can be played, regardless of whether the stadium is renovated.

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39 Responses to “Door not completely closed on Miami Super Bowls”
  1. cappa662 says: May 6, 2013 9:23 AM

    Let them leave. Small businesses generate way more revenue than the Dolphins WITHOUT the tax hand outs!!! We can still root for (insert your favorite team here) at local establishments.

  2. jimbo75025 says: May 6, 2013 9:29 AM

    If the NFL keeps following patterns of new stadium=get a Super Bowl, not sure why the “rotation” even matters anymore. Atlanta and Minny are gonna want one. If St Louis approves the redesign the Rams want, they are gonna want one. By that time, sure another team will want a new stadium.

  3. thegrey7 says: May 6, 2013 9:44 AM

    Why continue to have Super Bowl in New “Power Failure” Orleans or Maimi with thier sub-standard stadium?

    Give some some other cities a chance.

  4. Max says: May 6, 2013 9:51 AM

    Politicians need to realize football is a thing you just don’t fight.

    Even if Americans don’t want something, they still want to know that they have the right to decide that they don’t want it through the democratic voting process.

    Even if we agree with a certain view, we don’t want politicians taking those decisions away from us.

  5. ohioraider22 says: May 6, 2013 9:54 AM

    Isn’t this stadium fairly new considering some of the age of the other stadiums in the NFL? If all selected sights have the people vote no to a levy for a staduim upgrade will they just not play the Super Bowel then? I understand it generates millions for the host city, but the average Joe can’t even afford a ticket for this game, but they want them to pay more taxes so some rich snob can attend it in luxury. Have the game up north, outside. Only the true fans would show up.

  6. jturner71 says: May 6, 2013 9:55 AM

    So the South Florida elements in January are bad…but the New York elements in January are just fine? Makes perfect sense.

  7. pj1983a says: May 6, 2013 9:57 AM

    Honestly, if you’re not willing to invest in a stadium to host the Super Bowl, then you shouldn’t be eligible to reap the economic benefits of hosting one. Let those cities that have sacrificed for their stadiums get a return on their investment.

  8. ldr83favre says: May 6, 2013 10:01 AM

    The whole “I have to have a new stadium” trend is completely out of control. Some teams are not only demanding new stadiums that they don’t really need, like Atlanta and its 21-year-old facility, but they are asking for monstrous, billion-dollar palaces, again like Atlanta. It’s costing everybody, especially taxpayers, way too much money.

  9. watchfullhose says: May 6, 2013 10:02 AM

    Welfare for billionaires.

  10. drainbameged says: May 6, 2013 10:08 AM

    Phins and the city of Miami will come to an agreement and the upgrades will get done…This deal was packaged with some state tax money… nobody is moving to LA or San Antonio esp the historic Miami Dolphins none of the cali or texas owners would let it happen… sorry haters

  11. clebrowntown says: May 6, 2013 10:11 AM

    So the NFL wants their paying customers protected from the elements while at the Souper Bowl….any chance those financial physicists notice that none of the Florida stadiums have roofs?
    Think that hurricanes have something to do with that fact? Well duh…
    Aside from the additional construction costs, the insurances on domed stadiums would be ridiculous.
    Ask an insurer

  12. brutus9448 says: May 6, 2013 10:13 AM

    superbowls in miami are the better than anywhere else. So it’s truly the NFLs loss if miami doesn’t get another superbowl.

  13. arrowhead816 says: May 6, 2013 10:14 AM

    I want a Superbowl played in Kansas City or Green Bay

  14. bobzilla1001 says: May 6, 2013 10:14 AM

    I don’t care where Super Bowls are played (London not withstanding). Having said that, I truly like the idea of cold-weather, OUTDOOR sites now being considered.
    A Super Bowl in New Jersey is intriguing and brings a certain element of the unknown back into the game that’s been lacking since the NFL/AFL merger.
    Since the NFL has priced the “average-income fan” out of Super Bowls, there’s some poetic justice in making the wealthy shell out LOTS of money for obscenely-priced tickets and parking.
    Let’s find out once for all just how much the rich actually enjoys football.

  15. floratiotime says: May 6, 2013 10:15 AM

    If only the poor and the middle classes will agree on a socialist wealth transfer to the billionaires.

  16. gmenmunny says: May 6, 2013 10:19 AM

    I’m glad the Superbowl is coming to Jersey, but just due to the fact its the first cold weather environment for the game, they should’ve played it in Green Bay. You can change the game all you want Roger, but pay homage and respect to those who made it what it is today.

  17. mrstinkypants says: May 6, 2013 10:30 AM

    Apparently the NFL thinks Miami is ok to host the Pro Bowl 2 years ago but a Super Bowl is out of the question.

  18. riverhorsey says: May 6, 2013 10:32 AM

    Do teams really need to upgrade their stadiums for a SB?

    Do we really need to install another 25 or 30 new luxury suites so the rich and famous will have a cool place to hang instead of sitting in the stands like real fans?

    F that.

  19. mackie66 says: May 6, 2013 10:44 AM

    Would a fan rather go to South Beach in Feb to attend a super bowl or Minnesota? Green Bay or New Dork? Sun Stadium isn’t falling in. Yeah that idiot Goodell, who now runs the NFL, wants this and that, he’ll mainly get that. Id prefer you snow-bird types stay out of So Fla. you leave a ring around the pilings and it takes forever to get the stench out of the air.
    If I were Ross Id move the Dolphins to Cali, condemn and explode the Sun Life stadium to 1 inch pieces of rock. Let Miami build a new stadium for the next NFL team. Sun Life is maybe one of few stadiums through out the NFL thats not state or City owned.

  20. commonsensedude says: May 6, 2013 10:45 AM

    “That remains the biggest disconnect, in our view. It’s fine to drop the Super Bowl experience into Manhattan in the dead of winter, and to charge fans four figures to freeze while watching the game, but it’s no longer acceptable to spend a full week in Miami with the remote possibility that it will rain for four hours on Sunday night?”

    Florio, I can help with the disconnect here. John Mara assured Roger Goodell that he has clear evidence that it won’t snow in NYC during the Super Bowl. His word is good enough for Goodell. So the games will be held in New York City on a pleasant evening in February. Also, the Redskins and Cowboys will get fined a couple million more in cap space just for good luck.

  21. fishyinalittledishy says: May 6, 2013 11:05 AM

    Dolphin fans, things are going to get darker before we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We have all got an opinion on our owner but also we know he didn’t get were is by giving up at the first hurdle. What he has done in the past and is trying to do now is not easy if it was we would all be billionaires. Sneaky political skulduggery has to be overcome for deals of this level to be kicked off. The level of nasty jealous people out there should not surprise you as all these type do is sit on their back sides and criticize people who try and move the world forward. I don’t like a few of the decisions Steve Ross has made so far but he is trying to turn this team into winning one and i appreciate him for that.

  22. bathroombenlovemachine says: May 6, 2013 11:05 AM

    It doesn’t matter. Michael Vick will be 2013 NFL MVP and will be Super Bowl 48 MVP.

    Eagles will win Super Bowl 48. Bet on it.

  23. keylimelight says: May 6, 2013 11:10 AM

    We read reports that breathlessly gush about the millions and billions of dollars that are spent around the Superbowl. What city leaders, nor anyone in the league for that matter, don’t elaborate on is that most of that money changes hands between corporate entities and that locally, cities receive only the tax revenues which amount to merely hundreds of thousands. In some cases, a city may actually go into debt preparing its infrastructure for the event.

    So basically, the Superbowl city is hosting the venue where a corporate party takes place. Sure, small businesses and commerce in general can reap the benefits from the traffic and publicity the event generates, but don’t be fooled by the “millions in economic impact” promise because that money does not go to the city itself.

  24. phinfan says: May 6, 2013 11:10 AM

    Joe Robbie is rolling in his grave.

  25. ksiner says: May 6, 2013 11:24 AM

    Call the NFL Nazi’s bluff. I’m sure the CEOs of the big major sponsors and the celebrities from the network broadcasting the game would prefer to be playing golf in Doral, Boca or WPB and hanging out on SOBE than freezing their arse off in Atlanta, Detroit or Minneapolis. Once the NFL gets that through their head it will be back, in the meantime FAH Q Roger!!

  26. 8to80texansblog says: May 6, 2013 12:15 PM

    So should I start printing Super Bowl LI: Houston shirts and hats….?

  27. shardar says: May 6, 2013 12:20 PM

    I wouldn’t mind at all to be at a “Monsun Bowl”… heck, who cares about a little rain? It’s the Super Bowl!

  28. goldrush36 says: May 6, 2013 12:27 PM

    ^^^ Atlanta is freezing? Wow that’s news to me. I think someone got too much sun

  29. reprob8 says: May 6, 2013 12:35 PM

    Since owners can move their franchises without penalty, public money shouldn’t be used for stadiums unless the city is made a part owner of the team.

  30. grandpoopah says: May 6, 2013 12:35 PM

    Here is a crazy idea. Have the owners of the stadium pay for the upgrades with their own money. How many articles will PFT post on this topic before mentioning that option?

  31. DonRSD says: May 6, 2013 12:40 PM

    The Super Bowl should be held in Miami every year.
    Not because any of us are Dolphins fans, but the weather down here in February is just beautiful.

    GO BIG BLUE!!!

  32. whitemike55 says: May 6, 2013 12:47 PM

    Houston needs to land another Superbowl. Good weather in February, and we already proved in 2004 we can host a great event.

    Retractable roof, great food & entertainment, Largest T.V screens in ALL of sports (Sorry Jerry Jones).

    I think and hope Houston lands it again.

  33. jsm08 says: May 6, 2013 12:59 PM

    With the billions the NFL makes why don’t they offer these teams low interest loans for stadium upgrades?
    No need to ask for tax money.

    All the owners would stand to profit.

  34. whoisferg says: May 6, 2013 1:20 PM

    “Some teams are not only demanding new stadiums that they don’t really need, like Atlanta and its 21-year-old facility, but they are asking for monstrous, billion-dollar palaces, again like Atlanta.”

    Yeah, but Arthur Blank is putting up $800,000,000 of the billion. Give the guy some due props. He wants the city to kick in the rest to show they are as committed to the team as he is. Otherwise, he CAN build his own stadium somewhere else…

    The city of Atlanta doesn’t want that, so they’re kicking in their share. By the way Atlanta has one of the very few teams that have their stadium in the downtown area of the actual city they hail from.

  35. vaphinfan says: May 6, 2013 1:59 PM

    I’m imagine their will be a compromise somewhere they can meet. Too much to lose. A super bowl would be good for the city and good for Ross.

  36. bobbyd12 says: May 6, 2013 3:21 PM

    Now, grandpoopah and others. Do you not understand that almost every single Stadium in this Country is privately-publicly owned?? Stephen Ross is one of the few owners of the actual Stadium.
    1. Steve Ross was paying 2/3 of this renovation
    2. Steve Ross was going to pay back Dade-County after 30 years, no other owner has offered that.
    3. Steve Ross paid $5 million to the County to reimburse the cost. That money was NON-Refundable. Ross doesn’t get that money back.
    4. Basically, Steve Ross is being punished for owning his own Stadium.
    5. Steve Ross is the only owner in Florida who pays property taxes.

    Now please tell me why any other owner who is in a 50/50 partnership with the city or town should pay 100% of renovations?? That is just ridiculous. Cities reap the reward of having an NFL team. They should be happy to contribute…..

  37. tpa43 says: May 6, 2013 3:29 PM

    Any sports team that receives public funded money should be publicly owned. period.

  38. fishyinalittledishy says: May 6, 2013 4:18 PM

    The more i think of what has happened over the last couple of days the more angry and confused i am. Am i right in thinking the Dolphins put up 5 mil to ask the question and some poxy slimy politician does not even let the question be asked as he promised and Ross does not see the 5 million again that cant be right, can it ?

  39. skylark70455 says: May 6, 2013 4:23 PM

    Yeah… 32 of the country’s richest businessmen are going to be fine with a state representative from a tiny district near Tampa calling their “bluff” – and will knuckle under because the weather is nice in South Florida, and fans think its the best place. lol

    And if this Weatherford character (or any NFL journalists) think Tampa is going to get some advantage in bidding for future SB’s… since this occurred at the state level – I’d say the entire state of Florida can count itself out for being anything other than leverage for opposing city bids for the foreseeable future. Anyone who thinks different should really examine who they are dealing with here.

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